＂Giuliani Wanted $2 MILLION!＂ - Ex-CIA Agent John Kiriakou EXPOSES Pay For Pardon SHAKEDOWN
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Summary
Former CIA contractor John Brennan joins Jemele to discuss his controversial case against the Obama administration, and why he thinks President Trump should get a pardon. He also talks about how he got help from Rudy Giuliani to get the case thrown out of court.
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You know, Obama, I never understood why Obama was always so untouchable.
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First of all, one of the things the CIA loves, I say this all the time,
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they love when a new president is elected and he doesn't have any intelligence experience
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And Obama was one of those guys who thought he was smarter than everybody else in the room.
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And so, you know, people like Brennan were able to manipulate him
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so that Obama would make decisions and he would think that they were his ideas.
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And in fact, they were the ideas of people like John Brennan that he had surrounded himself with.
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And I don't know why there's this weird, inexplicable nostalgia for the Obama years.
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In my life, the Obama years were a living hell.
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That's why I'm asking President Trump for a pardon.
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Yeah, it wasn't just I did 23 months with a bunch of pedophiles.
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And is it true with the whole you try to get a pardon and you were told it's $2 million?
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It's the very end of the first Trump administration.
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I had a friend who had a relationship with Rudy Giuliani.
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And so I called him and I said, hey, can you get me with Giuliani?
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I want to I want to ask if you can help me get a pardon.
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I talked to one of Giuliani's, you know, major domos.
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And he said, well, we're going to be in in Washington next week.
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And my my attorney, Bruce Fine, was was deputy attorney general under Ronald Reagan.
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So I said, it'll be me with my with my attorney.
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And they said, oh, Rudy's not good by two o'clock.
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I go to the Trump and and Giuliani's there with two other people.
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And I'm there with my lawyer and we're sitting there and Giuliani says.
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And I said, yeah, I'm a Steelers fan, but yeah, the jets are pretty good this year.
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So I'm a I'm a Pirates fan, but I follow the Nationals, too.
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Yeah, it's going to be a good year for the Mets.
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Mayor, there's this issue I wanted to raise of a pardon.
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His guy says, you never talk to Rudy about a pardon.
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And he says, Rudy's going to want two million for the pardon.
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I said, first of all, I don't have two million dollars.
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But even if I did, why would I spend two million dollars to recover a seven hundred and seventy thousand dollar pension?
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And I look at my lawyer and he's like, we got up.
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Buddy of mine had a book release party at the Republican National Committee.
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So I go up to the RNC and and there's another whistleblower there.
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And I said, no, the FBI is not going to give a shit about Rudy Giuliani trying to shake
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I happen to be in my lawyer's office and my cell phone rings.
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And it's it's it was either Mike Schmidt or Eric Schmidt.
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I think it was Mike Schmidt from The New York Times calls me and he says, a little bird
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told me that Rudy Giuliani tried to get two million dollars from you for a pardon.
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I said he was pretty upset when I when I mentioned to him that I had this meeting and he said,
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well, we're actually doing up doing a story because Rudy's trying to get two million from
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a whole bunch of people who are seeking pardons.
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And I said to my lawyer, I said, Bruce, will I go on the record?
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Well, it was a front page story on The New York Times.
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And and funny enough, Giuliani's response was, I never met this man.
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And The New York Times called me for a response.
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And I said, he forgot that we took a picture together that morning.
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So I sent them the picture and then they put a little box and they said, the New York Times
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has seen documentary proof that the meeting took place.
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And then, like a year later, two years later, I get a call from Noel Dunphy, who had been
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his business development director at Giuliani Partners.
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He told her the day that the New York Times article came out, that damn CIA guy ratted me
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That's interesting, because at one point, pardons for sale.
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But it's it was a front page New York Times article.
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At one point, this guy was he was one of the most powerful could be the king of New York
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It's a shame when it comes down to all these pardons, these stories.
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It was 14 years for a crime that was never consummated.
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