Valuetainment - April 28, 2026


“Glow Like An Expectant WIDOW” - Kimmel TORCHED Over Trump Assassination Joke


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Rob and Vanessa discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the White House Correspondent's Dinner, the latest attack on the first lady, and the president's response to it. They also discuss the possibility that the shooter may be dead.

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00:00:00.000 but the two things that I couldn't stand and one of them is like above it all and I want to play
00:00:05.540 another clip that nobody is paying attention to that I think is the most important message that
00:00:10.200 was given by Van Jones him and I were exchanging messages last night is the following I'll show
00:00:14.960 you but go to Jimmy Fallon for Jimmy Kimmel first so this is Jimmy Kimmel a couple days ago
00:00:20.280 while he's doing his monologue they shoot this to make it seem like he's the comedian for the
00:00:26.300 lighthouse correspondence dinner and in it they use images of melania the first lady to make it
00:00:34.220 seem like she's in the audience she's not this is just b-roll that they're adding yeah and here's
00:00:38.440 what he had to say go ahead rob our first lady melania is here look at more so beautiful mrs
00:00:44.700 trump you have a glow like an expectant widow you have a glow like an expected widow yeah so so this
00:00:54.820 is the part where i have a problem with things like this so people came back and they say oh yeah
00:00:59.760 are you okay with the president saying you know an entire civilization iran well that that is the
00:01:06.760 enemy he's calling out for somebody in the mainstream who has the biggest show that's on tv
00:01:13.480 like this is the modern who is the modern day replacement of a carson letterman or leno it's
00:01:18.820 two names kimball and and and fallon it's those two right so you get up and you say something 0.99
00:01:24.620 like that about the first lady nasty disgusting ugly you don't want to see anything like that i 0.94
00:01:32.080 know what does raskin say rob i think you have a raskin clip as well uh so to me you know while 0.97
00:01:37.520 you're watching this stuff did he get punched in the face or his pink eye something's okay
00:01:42.580 something's gone i hope he recovers but that's go ahead rob play the clip and you have uh and as
00:01:48.200 many of your fellow democrats have used some heated rhetoric against the president and do
00:01:53.840 Do you think twice about that when something like this happens?
00:01:56.580 What rhetoric do you have in mind?
00:01:58.160 She's talking about some of the fact that he is terrible for this country and so on and so forth.
00:02:04.680 I understand that that's your democratic right.
00:02:07.060 But overall, do you have a responsibility?
00:02:11.400 I have no personal problem with Donald Trump at all.
00:02:13.040 I mean, I talk about the policies of this administration, the authoritarianism like we saw on display in Minneapolis.
00:02:19.880 We can play clips in the greatest hits of what things they've said about the president,
00:02:23.620 which is absolutely nasty.
00:02:25.720 There's a lot of it, okay?
00:02:27.400 But the president said something.
00:02:28.760 He says, look, I study assassinations.
00:02:30.980 He said this right afterwards because he wanted to go on.
00:02:33.300 He's like, I don't want one person to stop the entire thing.
00:02:35.260 I want this thing to continue.
00:02:37.060 But he is being interviewed.
00:02:38.160 This is it.
00:02:38.640 Good, good, fine, Rob.
00:02:39.680 He's being interviewed, and he says, look, I've studied assassinations.
00:02:42.120 I've studied what happens with this.
00:02:43.660 I study why they do this.
00:02:44.880 It's typically the people.
00:02:46.120 I'll let them address it.
00:02:47.200 Go ahead, Rob.
00:02:48.260 Thank you, President Trump.
00:02:49.500 There's a report in the New York Post that this assailant assembled his weapon somewhere
00:02:55.860 on site at the hotel.
00:02:58.380 What do you think about that?
00:02:59.580 And I ask respectfully, why do you think this keeps happening to you?
00:03:07.040 Well, you know, I've studied assassinations, and I must tell you, the most impactful people,
00:03:16.300 the people that do the most you take a look at the people abraham lincoln i mean you go through
00:03:22.020 the people that have gone through this where they got them but the people that do the most the people
00:03:29.160 that make the biggest impact they're the ones that they go after they don't go after the ones
00:03:34.940 that don't do much because they like it that way and when you look at the people that have
00:03:40.280 either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt.
00:03:45.800 They're very impactful people.
00:03:47.780 Just take a look at the names here, the big names.
00:03:51.700 And I hate to say I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot.
00:03:55.940 Pause it, Rob.
00:03:56.980 You see, this is the part where, you know, to have a job like this
00:04:02.960 and make the changes that you want to make that are massive, massive changes,
00:04:08.860 it has to be by a leader that understands what the risk is.
00:04:13.020 Like, he's accepted the fact that every day someone's trying to kill him.
00:04:18.820 He's accepted the fact that that comes with the territory.
00:04:22.260 And by the way, he didn't move that fast.
00:04:24.880 Now, Van Jones said this, and then Vinny, I'm going to come to you right after this
00:04:28.000 because this is what I want to get you from.
00:04:31.020 Van Jones said this, and he says, this may be the biggest concern,
00:04:34.060 and we're going to find out today because the shooter is alive.
00:04:38.480 He's not dead.
00:04:39.400 He's not talking.
00:04:39.940 Which means he's making a comparison of, imagine the amount of, like,
00:04:45.820 people going, oh, my God, man, Gioni killed the guy, the CEO, and he's alive.
00:04:49.580 So what happens?
00:04:50.300 People are outside celebrating and all this stuff.
00:04:52.660 Get your cover shot on Rolling Stone.
00:04:54.460 Van Jones took a very, very unique angle here.
00:04:57.980 Go ahead, Rob.
00:04:59.260 Starting to worry about something, though, which is that the shooter survived,
00:05:04.800 which means on Monday he's going to court.
00:05:07.840 which means there is a danger that people try to make him some sort of hero.
00:05:14.200 You watch what happened with Luigi, who shot a CEO to death and somehow became a hero.
00:05:22.180 So they said tonight you saw the worst of America, you saw the best of America.
00:05:28.900 Tonight you definitely saw the best of America.
00:05:31.660 I hope on Monday we don't see the worst again.
00:05:33.340 I just want to say very clearly, this kind of despicable behavior has no place in America.
00:05:41.100 It has no place on the right.
00:05:42.380 It has no place on the left.
00:05:43.700 We don't know if he was there because he wanted to hurt Democrats or Republicans.
00:05:46.660 Both were there.
00:05:47.500 We don't know if he wanted to hurt journalists or politicians.
00:05:49.540 Both were there.
00:05:50.500 This kind of behavior has no place in America.
00:05:54.420 Vinny, thoughts?
00:05:57.500 I'm with you 1,000%.
00:05:59.420 When there's a moment, Pat, where they're in there in stelter, who I don't agree with at all, that I'm actually upset, but I'm happy that he was fired.
00:06:06.620 Like, these people, these people created this monster, okay?
00:06:12.440 And then they cry after about the monster that they created, okay?
00:06:16.580 We want to heal, Pat.
00:06:17.720 We want to be better as human beings.
00:06:19.800 You know, this is a Christian nation.
00:06:21.060 We're trying to be positive. 0.89
00:06:22.800 And that's a messed up thing to even say because it's happening probably right now.
00:06:26.760 He's in court.
00:06:27.200 It's, what, 10 o'clock in the morning?
00:06:29.620 He's probably going to be in court in the next couple minutes probably.
00:06:32.860 But it's just a sad thing that the Brian Stelters, the Jamie Raskins, the MSNBC,
00:06:38.840 from the Chris Cuomo's to every single body for the past nine years that have been telling us every single day.
00:06:46.300 It's not penetrating us, but a lot of Americans, Pat, that have this brainwashed Trump derangement syndrome
00:06:53.260 where it's past just anger and yelling at your family members.
00:06:56.200 And I'm not going to go to Thanksgiving because, you know, John is going to be there and he loves Trump. 0.59
00:07:00.280 It's where they're they're getting armed and they're going to arm and they're going to kill and they're going to kill.
00:07:07.280 So I'm all for I love the positive positivity afterwards.
00:07:10.560 OK, love each other. But it's like you guys have created this monster.
00:07:14.100 And guess what? How many other monsters are out there that we haven't even seen?
00:07:17.480 You haven't seen anything yet. They're out there.
00:07:19.200 And Trump's going to have to be that only President Trump, when he gets out, his family, his family's kids, Barron,
00:07:24.620 everybody is going to have to deal with this forever and it's because of them it's because
00:07:29.440 of cnn it's because of msnb what ms now you want to change your name like we forgot who you were
00:07:34.460 it's all these people but i do i do think what he's saying is a valid point they're going to
00:07:38.520 have people falling in love with him they're in love with this guy oh he's a hero and who is it
00:07:42.660 going to be coming from you think any republicans are going to be over there patting him on the back
00:07:46.020 this is a left issue that needs to freaking change pat and it's the accountability of saying 0.95
00:07:51.000 i hope you die i hope you wake i'm all for free speech but when you call for somebody to die 0.98
00:07:56.320 somebody should go and kill the president those people should be like you're inciting 1.00
00:08:00.480 an assassination that you want somebody to go and kill somebody and it's ridiculous i think 1.00
00:08:05.100 it's ridiculous look in their minds trump is the enemy so you know you said a second ago about you 0.98
00:08:13.200 know what trump said about killing a civilization which obviously was hyperbolic and not true 0.93
00:08:17.460 but they're the enemy i truly believe that there's a massive faction on the left and somehow on the
00:08:24.980 right now that doesn't view china as the enemy that doesn't view russia as the enemy or even
00:08:31.300 iran is the enemy there's a singular enemy and his name is donald trump imagine that you're an
00:08:37.980 american you're a citizen of the country and your number one enemy is donald trump i don't think we
00:08:43.940 can understate this even more how do how how do i have so much conviction how do i know that it's
00:08:49.660 to be true because tds is a real thing and i had it have you ever had tds never you ever had that
00:08:56.940 pat you ever had that for four years during his first term when i watched msnbc and morning joe
00:09:04.560 and cnn i watched a whole onslaught of news i was like this guy's a russian asset and he's trying
00:09:11.060 to ruin the country and he can be bought and paid all that thank god i've snapped out of it i mean
00:09:16.940 do you know anyone else who despised trump and now absolutely admires him no because you want me
00:09:22.000 hold on but let me just finish this i don't forget it's it's something that needs to be studied and
00:09:27.700 cannot just be dismissed why these people view trump as the enemy and here's what happens let's
00:09:33.380 use jimmy camelot as an example not only is is he condoning killing the president making a joke out
00:09:39.460 it saying Melania you have the glow of a beautiful widow they're promoting it they're putting it on
00:09:46.500 tv saying guys they're inserting the laugh track and saying this is hilarious guys and don't tell
00:09:53.200 me that a large percentage of the country would not celebrate if Trump got shot because I'll give
00:09:59.280 you exhibit A Charlie Kirk while they're dancing on his grave or I'll give you exhibit B how many
00:10:05.220 people oh they wish that they got him in the ear i wish they would have got him so don't tell me
00:10:10.820 there's a huge population in this country that wouldn't be gleeful if trump got shot yeah and
00:10:17.180 that to me is disgusting can i ask him one question and do you remember and do this really
00:10:20.560 fast i know he wants tom to say his piece what what's the moment do you remember the moment 0.76
00:10:24.620 because you went from i hate him russia everything what was the moment do you remember the moment
00:10:29.300 where you went oh my god i was what the hell like there had to be a moment where you switched
00:10:34.180 what was it number one i never hated trump i don't use that word pat knows i never i don't
00:10:39.640 like the things but i think covid was i think everybody had to wake up during covid everybody
00:10:46.260 we had to realize what is this true do we need to wear a mask do we need to get a jab what's going
00:10:52.020 on who do we trust who do we not trust and then it all just unraveled and then the moment there
00:10:56.680 was no singular moment but if you just look at what was going on during the biden administration
00:11:02.260 What did he do that you could say, that's my guy?
00:11:04.380 Vinny, I will tell you from the outside, okay,
00:11:06.520 because Adam's not the only guy.
00:11:08.540 You know, he wants to think he's the only guy.
00:11:11.280 On this podcast.
00:11:12.540 On this podcast, fine, but millions.
00:11:14.780 Rob was a guy, you know, and just Rob doesn't say it.
00:11:18.460 Rob didn't come here being in full agreement with me politically.
00:11:22.180 Are you kidding me?
00:11:23.320 No.
00:11:24.300 A lot of people, as you're going through it, you know,
00:11:27.180 and by the way, I remember also there were some guys that had left him
00:11:30.220 that had gone to DeSantis.
00:11:32.200 They're like, DeSantis is the guy.
00:11:33.960 Which, by the way, the market's going to be very confused with me
00:11:38.260 because do not be surprised if in 2028 I'm, you know,
00:11:42.280 a guy that wants to see DeSantis make the next move.
00:11:45.660 And I got a couple guys.
00:11:47.020 I actually think he – I just didn't want DeSantis in 24.
00:11:50.380 But you know what it is?
00:11:51.520 Here's the part that I want everybody to be thinking about.
00:11:54.820 You know, my dad would say something.
00:11:57.800 He says, Pat, when you were going through trouble
00:12:00.580 and a lot of people had written you off
00:12:04.460 and you would act like you were not listening to me,
00:12:07.800 I knew you were listening.
00:12:10.440 I knew you were still listening.
00:12:12.680 And as a father, I would pray every night
00:12:15.140 that my son, my only son,
00:12:18.160 would figure out to do something with his life
00:12:20.460 and I knew what I wasn't going to do
00:12:22.920 is stop talking to you
00:12:24.220 and stop giving you what I thought you needed to do,
00:12:28.000 whether it was life is getting late, it's getting late,
00:12:30.580 do something with your life.
00:12:31.600 Stop, because I was in a club six days a week.
00:12:33.320 I was partying and not doing anything useful with my life.
00:12:36.800 It was just bodybuilding, girls, and, you know, partying, and that was it.
00:12:40.660 I was like, hey, get your act together.
00:12:42.840 And I'm like, I don't want to hear it.
00:12:43.900 I don't want to hear it.
00:12:44.700 You know, you can't tell me anything, and then all of a sudden it happens, right?
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