Valuetainment - June 07, 2026


“God Doesn’t Make Mistakes” - YouTubers Abort Baby After Down Syndrome Diagnosis


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19 minutes

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194

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7

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5

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YouTuber Jesse Ridgeway and wife made difficult decision to terminate pregnancy after Down Syndrome diagnosis came out and it was a gut punch for them. Here s the story of how they finally got pregnant with their first child with Down Syndrome.

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00:00:30.000 YouTuber Jesse Ridgeway and wife made difficult decision to terminate pregnancy after Down syndrome diagnosis came out, and it was a gut punch, okay, when this story came out.
00:00:39.460 So, gut punch for them.
00:00:42.180 So, here's the story, okay, this was the baby of the YouTuber that apparently came out and they found out, and Rob, uh, Vinny, were they, were they at first celebrating?
00:00:52.320 Jesse Ridgeway and wife actually ended their pregnancy, explaining why in a serious post on YouTube, is this the video of them?
00:00:57.620 This is them celebrating.
00:00:59.000 Yes.
00:00:59.700 Go ahead. 1.00
00:01:00.000 found out that they were pregnant. So this is them 0.53
00:01:01.920 finally got pregnant. Not that they know the kids 0.99
00:01:04.120 don't. Okay, go for it. Go ahead.
00:01:05.540 Okay, read that. There's a faint line right there.
00:01:07.640 Where's the instruction?
00:01:09.480 Why is this complex? Where's the like pregnant 1.00
00:01:11.880 not pregnant one? So positive 1.00
00:01:13.500 two strong lines or a strong line
00:01:16.060 and a faint line. Negative.
00:01:17.680 Positive, Jess.
00:01:20.880 Right?
00:01:25.600 That's positive.
00:01:28.960 I'll freak out.
00:01:30.000 Dang, it is.
00:01:31.720 What have you done?
00:01:32.880 I don't know. 1.00
00:01:34.140 So this is just their pregnant. 1.00
00:01:36.020 This is them.
00:01:36.780 No, this is them finding out. 0.98
00:01:38.360 Yeah, they're finding out that she's pregnant.
00:01:40.440 So what happens next, man?
00:01:41.460 And then so there's a video, Robbie.
00:01:44.060 This is them, Pat.
00:01:45.660 I don't know what app he's using.
00:01:47.160 I'm sorry, what results he's getting, like how the doctors are sending it.
00:01:50.480 But this is them finding out that the kid has Down syndrome.
00:01:54.120 Not that it's, like, dying and it's something bad.
00:01:56.560 It just has Down syndrome.
00:01:57.640 Go ahead.
00:01:58.380 We're going to see the result.
00:01:59.260 have to download the official report abnormal insight result consistent with trisomy 21.
00:02:07.100 No. What is it? Wait, why are you saying this? No. Let me see. I can't see it. It says abnormal
00:02:20.060 insight result. Follow that showed three chromosome 21 signals consistent with trisomy 21 down
00:02:27.180 syndrome genetic counseling is recommended pattern consistent with trisomy 21
00:02:34.320 okay by the way that's super tough that's very very tough pass and by then there was and then
00:02:43.280 they announced right there on the video well they're because there was an ultrasound video
00:02:46.740 pat when once she started getting to the point you know you can see the baby in the womb which
00:02:51.160 is you know uh which they were you know that was the baby in there you know healthy other than
00:02:57.580 just having down syndrome and like pat here here's my opinion i know you guys are going to have yours
00:03:03.080 it's there they admitted making the decision that it was it was going to be an inconvenience
00:03:08.780 or they didn't they didn't want to deal with the responsibility that comes with raising a child
00:03:12.780 with down syndrome and look i criticize all these irl clavicular all these people because it's not
00:03:18.280 my kind of content but this is something different to record yourself getting the diagnosis talking
00:03:23.720 about it publicly then deciding to end to kill that baby's life to me it's it's it's horrific
00:03:30.820 to me to me this is my opinion Vincent O'Shanna's opinion it's it's selfish it's horrific 67 percent
00:03:37.320 to 85 percent of pregnancies in the United States with a Down syndrome diagnosis are aborted
00:03:41.220 that's not listen to me God does not make mistakes every single life has value every single one okay
00:03:50.020 the Bible in Psalm 139 Tommy and you talked about this before for you created my inmost being you
00:03:55.780 knit me together in my mother's womb that means God formed this child okay and love that child
00:04:01.500 before it was even born a baby with Down syndrome is not a mistake okay that child is still fearfully
00:04:08.080 and wonderfully made in the eyes of God okay maybe let's just say maybe because nobody knows
00:04:13.180 the plan Pat maybe that child would have been the greatest blessing that these two streamers could
00:04:18.560 have ever received maybe God was going to work through them to soften their hearts strengthen
00:04:22.880 their freaking marriage inspire other families Pat that are dealing with this same thing instead
00:04:27.360 this child is never going to get a chance to breathe I don't know if they already had the 0.92
00:04:31.140 abortion Rob but that child they they chose the fate of that child okay and I know people with
00:04:37.580 Down syndrome Pat you know my best friend Artie he's Armenian he has Down syndrome he is one of
00:04:42.980 the happiest loving never upset affectionate pure-hearted people I've ever seen in my life
00:04:50.540 and by the way I this goes to every single kid with Down syndrome that I've seen Pat they're
00:04:54.580 freaking happy here's a quick video guys of me with my friend Artie I'm basically introducing
00:05:00.600 him for the first time to his Michael Jackson in the Armenian community his name is Harut
00:05:04.820 babu john look at the happiness in this kid go ahead rob who's your best friend in the whole
00:05:09.840 world who's your best friend look at him who's your favorite singer of all babu john haruth right
00:05:15.860 all right open that door go inside this is in glendale pat you know you know where this is
00:05:20.980 look at this haruth look at that look at this dude bro yeah how do you look at this guy bro
00:05:31.980 Look at how 0.63
00:05:34.600 Look at Harut, Pat
00:05:39.140 Look at this
00:05:39.880 Look at how happy he is, bro
00:05:41.360 What a gentle guy, Harut
00:05:44.060 Oh my God, did it out of nowhere
00:05:45.600 Didn't know me, didn't know
00:05:46.640 I just told him the situation through one of my friends
00:05:48.640 And guys, yes, this comes with challenges
00:05:52.360 Having a child with Down syndrome has challenges
00:05:54.760 Nobody's denying that
00:05:56.240 But guess what, he's still a human being
00:05:58.820 Created in God's image, okay
00:06:00.340 His life has just as much value as anybody else.
00:06:03.680 And guess what?
00:06:04.340 So if you truly can't handle it, have the baby, give it up for adoption.
00:06:08.640 There's families out there that are praying every day for freaking children, okay?
00:06:12.680 Families that would love to have a baby with everything that they had.
00:06:17.200 So the whole story, Pat, really, really, I was in tears yesterday.
00:06:20.640 I'm happy I got it all out.
00:06:21.840 It broke my heart because this baby is still a blessing, even if the world saw it as a burden.
00:06:26.820 And it really, really bothered me.
00:06:28.240 And, you know, prayers for the child. 0.54
00:06:30.120 Again, I don't know if they aborted it or not, but to give it, to just decide to kill it like that, Pat, really, really hurt me. 0.63
00:06:36.480 It hurt me really, really bad.
00:06:37.660 Rob, is this them posting the results of what they're getting from people?
00:06:42.980 Yeah, this is the backlash that they received in their report.
00:06:45.360 So it says, I've never seen such hate and vitriol for two people grieving the loss of their unborn child
00:06:51.640 and making an impossible decision the last 24 hours has exposed the side of humanity that is deeply disturbing,
00:06:56.000 being called murderous piece of evil compared to Hitler
00:06:59.260 and receiving nonstop death threats,
00:07:01.160 seeing my 6-year-old dog and stage 4 kidney disease be used as a weapon,
00:07:04.940 manipulating my words and intent in a tweet or saying
00:07:07.880 will regret this issue forever and must repent to God is an absolute insanity.
00:07:11.540 If you ever wanted to marvel at the depravity of people online,
00:07:17.700 just check the replies on my latest tweet. 1.00
00:07:20.040 It's a shit show of epic proportions. Keep going. 1.00
00:07:21.980 Okay. I'm not a fan of this.
00:07:24.000 I don't like this at all.
00:07:25.100 I don't like this at all.
00:07:26.740 So I'll give you my side of this.
00:07:31.160 A few years ago, Jennifer and I announced during Thanksgiving that Jennifer's pregnant.
00:07:37.140 I think you were there.
00:07:38.140 I don't know if you were there, but I do know you were there.
00:07:40.340 I was there, yeah.
00:07:41.040 And I announced that we're pregnant.
00:07:43.340 And then I announced that we're expecting twins.
00:07:48.000 And so you have no idea how special of a day it was because I wanted five kids.
00:07:52.440 So this was God's way of saying you're going to get your five kids.
00:07:55.100 And while we're at the hospital, they announce as twins, Jennifer's crying.
00:07:58.020 I'm laughing.
00:07:58.440 Just visualize it.
00:07:59.240 I'm laughing so loud and she's crying because she's like,
00:08:02.560 what the hell are we going to be doing?
00:08:03.900 Yes.
00:08:04.720 Anyways, we go in.
00:08:06.100 We choose the kids for the boy, but we don't have the name.
00:08:10.100 You know, we have the name for both.
00:08:11.160 Brooklyn and Lincoln was his name.
00:08:15.860 So we go in, you know, six weeks, seven weeks, eight weeks, ninth week.
00:08:20.320 I think it was 10th week or 11th.
00:08:21.880 I don't know what the week was, but it was 10 or 11 weeks or 9 weeks.
00:08:25.500 You go in, and they say one of them didn't make it.
00:08:29.280 Now, keep in mind, we don't know which one didn't make it.
00:08:32.000 It was very hard when we went through this.
00:08:33.560 We didn't know which one didn't make it.
00:08:34.900 But I'm going to tell you, we've been married now to be 17 years this month,
00:08:38.700 June 26th, our 17-year anniversary is coming up.
00:08:41.480 Do you know for that month of the doctor preparing us
00:08:46.820 that it could be a Down syndrome kid and be prepared for it?
00:08:51.880 Do you know how it was sleeping every night, her and I?
00:08:55.120 Like, it was challenging.
00:08:56.820 We're watching videos.
00:08:57.980 We're going through the whole process, steps of how the kids are going to react,
00:09:00.800 what's going to happen to you, all of this.
00:09:03.160 So, by the way, I sympathize for these guys.
00:09:06.100 This is a young couple.
00:09:07.000 I don't know how old they are.
00:09:07.840 They look like they're in their mid-20s.
00:09:09.220 I don't know how old they are.
00:09:09.940 Maybe they're in their mid-20s, maybe early 30s.
00:09:11.620 They don't look like they're old.
00:09:13.260 And so while you're going through it, Vinny, and maybe you don't have faith,
00:09:17.560 you know, you're not somebody that has that in your life.
00:09:20.320 33 years old, is that what it is?
00:09:21.700 He has 33 years old that they're going through.
00:09:23.340 I don't know their stories at all, so I don't want to judge these guys.
00:09:25.900 It is a very, very difficult thing to go through, and they made this choice.
00:09:33.160 It's interesting you said that because we have another friend of ours
00:09:36.100 that they had their fourth kid, and they called me,
00:09:40.180 and we had a call together, and they said the fourth kid is a Down syndrome.
00:09:46.800 It's definite, and I'm listening to these guys that they're going through it,
00:09:49.940 And the father, his sister, was Down syndrome growing up, okay?
00:09:54.860 And I said, look, I don't know what God is planning on doing,
00:09:58.480 but maybe the siblings are going to be such good caretakers
00:10:05.040 that that's going to cause them to become the types of leaders.
00:10:07.680 We don't even know what they're going to do.
00:10:09.120 It's going to take us 40 years to know why God did this.
00:10:12.000 It could take us 50.
00:10:13.340 It could happen, and you're not even here to witness the blessing that he gave.
00:10:16.640 But this is a very, very difficult thing that this couple is going through.
00:10:22.000 Of course, I don't, you know, whether I agree with the decision or not,
00:10:25.060 it's a different thing.
00:10:28.120 I still pray for this family as they're going through this,
00:10:31.180 and I hope they have enough love around them to encourage them
00:10:34.200 while they're going through this.
00:10:35.120 It's very hard to get pregnant.
00:10:37.060 And then, you know, 70% of first pregnancies lead to miscarriages.
00:10:41.760 And then to have this, I'm sure nobody's in more pain.
00:10:45.760 The baby's no longer here with us.
00:10:47.560 That's, of course, number one.
00:10:48.600 But then I'm sure they're also going through challenging times.
00:10:50.660 Adam.
00:10:51.880 Look, this story hits close to home in many different ways.
00:10:56.920 My father was born with cerebral palsy.
00:10:59.800 So every year he would make us go to the Special Olympics.
00:11:03.020 And I remember being like, I don't want to go to the Special Olympics, Dad.
00:11:06.040 Like, why do I got to be around these people?
00:11:08.120 He's like, son, you're coming.
00:11:10.760 And let me tell you something.
00:11:11.840 you know when you volunteer for the special olympics you know what you're called you're
00:11:16.640 called a hugger your job is to hug them and give them a hug and say congratulations you won
00:11:22.140 you got second place this is me giving out medals at the special olympics too now my buddies run the
00:11:27.920 special olympics um you don't need to use the volume but look being around these kids who have
00:11:34.740 all different types of challenges whether it's down syndrome whether it's muscular dystrophy
00:11:39.260 where there's all the different issues out there the smiles on these kids faces when they get a
00:11:45.620 medal rob if you could play that first video it's hilarious the smile on these kids faces and these
00:11:50.820 young people's faces it makes their day and it teaches you empathy and it teaches you compassion
00:11:57.300 this guy's hilarious and it gives you character and you realize oh my god life is precious and
00:12:04.500 life is beautiful and you don't know what you're going to get believe me um there's more i can say
00:12:10.740 about that later but the special olympics teaches you to have compassion and have heart and for this
00:12:16.940 these this young couple i'm so sorry that you're dealing with this i hope you make a decision to
00:12:24.100 not have an abortion i don't know if they did that yet they did that pains me to see but uh the the
00:12:30.300 The twist on this, Vinny, you're a comedian.
00:12:33.600 You know, I did comedy for a little while.
00:12:35.900 Nothing is as funny as having a good time with these guys.
00:12:40.100 They're the best.
00:12:40.720 And you just, it puts a smile on your face.
00:12:43.360 And I wish more people understood the pain that comes with stuff like this, but also the joy.
00:12:49.160 Tom.
00:12:50.200 I'll tell you, I see this on three angles.
00:12:54.020 First of all, to those of you that spewed vitriol at these folks, shame on you.
00:12:59.220 That is not the way to respond.
00:13:01.380 The way to respond is with love and compassion and reminding them that God is in charge and this would not be God's decision.
00:13:09.700 And reminding them that the God that loves them and loves his child, that's where it is.
00:13:13.960 But to spew the profanity and the vitriol, that's just so out of bounds.
00:13:18.580 You're not going to accomplish anything.
00:13:19.760 What are you accomplishing?
00:13:20.540 You're accomplishing nothing for the God you claim to represent when you do it like that.
00:13:25.640 And I'll tell you, we saw some of this.
00:13:28.640 Um, the, uh, obstetrician, when, uh, Kim was pregnant with, um, Brooke did a great job of
00:13:36.900 scaring the hell out of us because, you know, Kim was 40, you know, so they did a, um, just an 0.60
00:13:42.120 incredible job of just scaring the bejesus out of us. Oh, we need to do this. We need to do this.
00:13:46.800 We do this. Until we found one doctor that said, none of these tests are a hundred percent accurate.
00:13:52.700 But these are also all possibilities.
00:13:56.440 And that's why you see that guy reading, and he said this is consistent with Down syndrome.
00:14:01.760 Well, maybe it's 95%.
00:14:03.200 Maybe it's 92%.
00:14:04.260 Maybe it's 85%.
00:14:05.240 Who knows?
00:14:06.440 But that just means that there's a 2%, 3%, 5%, 15% chance this is a normal, regular kid with normal capabilities.
00:14:13.720 So you might be taking out a child with normal capabilities because the test is consistent, not 100%.
00:14:21.400 And then the other side of it, what you just said is so beautiful, Adam, and what you showed in the video, your friend, is so beautiful.
00:14:29.940 The disabled children of life teach the rest of us kindness, and they teach the rest of us to get off the vitriol.
00:14:39.880 You don't know the learning that you go through as a parent.
00:14:43.820 We went through it.
00:14:45.580 Brooke, when she started to speak, she had kind of a lisp.
00:14:49.660 And Pat used to joke with her, are you from Boston?
00:14:52.100 Are you from Boston?
00:14:53.280 And she had a little bit of a lift. 0.99
00:14:54.900 She had a tough time with it because her tongue and her palate,
00:14:57.880 they weren't working the way they should. 1.00
00:15:00.100 She's a boss, by the way. 0.83
00:15:00.700 And then the doctor.
00:15:02.220 She's a boss.
00:15:02.920 And then the doctor says, hey, we're looking at the scan of your two-year-old here.
00:15:07.840 I think you need to consider cranial orthosis.
00:15:11.120 We're like, what?
00:15:11.700 I think the skull was malformed and not working right.
00:15:14.800 We may have to do a surgery to reform.
00:15:16.800 And then you see the kids that wear these little padded helmets.
00:15:19.100 for about six months to shape it, and I said, okay, that's fine, but what's happening inside
00:15:25.080 that caused that? Well, it could be this, could be that, could be this. Again, scared the hell
00:15:28.360 of you. You know what? Two words came across our minds. Love, work. We love, and it's time to get
00:15:38.400 to work. We either need to learn about everything and be the kind of parents to help other people
00:15:42.500 with it, but the love's not going away, and we're not making any decisions because we're not God,
00:15:47.720 and we're going to get to work and do everything we could.
00:15:51.360 And Brooke turned out just fine.
00:15:53.140 It turns out it wasn't cranial orthosis.
00:15:55.420 But at that moment, we're wondering,
00:15:56.920 are we going to be part of a group of parents that have to do these things?
00:16:00.220 And Brooke's fine, straight-A student right now,
00:16:03.420 and we're blessed by that, blessed by that.
00:16:06.620 And I think let's celebrate and learn from every member of society,
00:16:12.160 not sit there and say, oh, we're going to handpick and we're going to be God.
00:16:15.820 I love these comments that are coming in
00:16:17.880 James Shromsak
00:16:19.540 I have a daughter with Downs
00:16:21.520 She's an angel, I thank God for her every day
00:16:23.580 She's a blessing, I love her with everything
00:16:25.420 Yeah, it's great
00:16:28.000 You're seeing some of these commentary that's coming through
00:16:29.860 Because people have gone through this
00:16:31.880 There's something about this story here
00:16:33.160 And like for instance, Pat, look at how beautiful
00:16:35.700 This relationship is, these two brothers
00:16:37.280 I sent it to Rob, Biffin and Turner
00:16:39.300 Turner's diagnosed with Down syndrome on the right
00:16:41.440 And he wants to be like his big brother
00:16:42.500 Look how beautiful this brother is in this moment
00:16:45.500 about what's your favorite thing about turner look makes me laugh he's my brother
00:16:51.220 look at that dude it's awesome what it makes me feel good to have a brother like him
00:17:00.580 i love you look at how freaking adorable because make me laugh
00:17:07.660 i love this video oh you can stop it yeah start crying in this place i mean he hugs he goes oh
00:17:14.440 Look, man, life is challenging.
00:17:17.800 Life is hard, especially for a husband and wife
00:17:19.380 when you guys are going through the process of wanting to have kids.
00:17:21.620 Let me tell you, nobody prepares you for this.
00:17:24.660 Seriously, no one prepares you on how the rollercoaster ride is.
00:17:28.960 And when you're going through it,
00:17:29.740 you think you're the only person that's going through it?
00:17:32.440 This is a very, very difficult thing people go through.
00:17:35.300 Massive news from our friend here, Vinny.
00:17:38.280 Massive news that you guys have been waiting for.
00:17:39.960 Go ahead, Vinny.
00:17:40.540 Well, thank you, Pat.
00:17:41.500 The hat that I'm wearing right now, I'm going to take it off.
00:17:43.760 my hair's gonna be messed up is the new faith over fear black and gold we have our shield here
00:17:48.560 and i'm talking about gold stitching like actually like not real gold but look at how ridiculous that
00:17:53.700 is ross gold in the back snap back with the hebrews our crosses on the inside and i'm telling
00:17:58.940 you guys right now pat i wore this hat to uh breakfast with umberto and a older late 80 years
00:18:05.540 old uh her name was amy she grabs me she's like i want that hat and i felt so bad because i
00:18:10.140 couldn't give it I couldn't I'm like I got a pitch for the podcast and Pat she went on the story
00:18:15.020 for 20 minutes ask him he's my witness about her cancer and beating it and having faith in her
00:18:20.640 she was so calm Tom saying that she's like even if I didn't I still have faith that God would
00:18:25.640 take care of me it was an emotional buy if I forgot that we're even eating breakfast but this
00:18:29.660 I'm telling you besides just a hat it's it's it's a conversation starter is letting people know I
00:18:34.280 can't tell you how many times in that same diner Pat I'm sitting there at the counter and there's
00:18:38.380 a congregation people are telling their stories so this hat is out right now people have been
00:18:42.920 asking for it and the white and black just got restocked we sold out on this hat in nine hours
00:18:48.600 pat so everybody out there please i want to say thank you number one number two go to vtmerch.com
00:18:54.060 these i guarantee you this is going to be sold out in two days get on vtmerch.com and get them
00:19:00.440 because people message me on instagram and they're like hey what why didn't you sick the hat's sick
00:19:05.000 the sweaters sick, the hoodies sick, the shirts sick, everything. Look at that. And go to church
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