＂Going After Scott Jennings & Bret Baier＂ - Bari Weiss Ignites MEDIA WAR Targeting FOX & CNN Talents
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Summary
Barry Weiss meets with Bret Baier to discuss replacing Scott Jennings at CBS News. John Dickerson announces his plans to leave CBS News at the end of the year, and is being offered a severance package of $500,000.
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CBS News, new editor, Barry Weiss, looks to poach, ready?
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Rob, can you go exactly to the point where I say if I were to negotiate on your behalf,
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go exactly to that point, not when he's asking me the question.
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So Barry's like, let me go pick up Bret Baier, and let me go pick up Scott Jennings.
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All right, so Scott Jennings maybe have a new role at CBS ahead of him,
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thanks to the Network's News, new editor-in-chief,
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who was hired less than a month ago to rebrand the outlet.
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Barry Weiss invited Scott Jennings to the company's headquarters in New York City this week
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for a meeting, according to Sam Afford's Jennings, 48,
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has made a name for himself among right-wing media and consumers for his cutthroat debating on CNN
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The 41-year-old chief also met with Fox News anchor, Bret Baier,
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to discuss the potential of hosting the channel's flagship show.
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met with Baier a week before a discussion with Jennings.
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However, it appears that unlikely a deal could be made with Baier,
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given that he is under contract with Fox News evening broadcast until 2028.
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The possible moves come amid uncertainty as paramount.
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The parent company of CBS is expected to make cuts in the next couple of days.
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Before any layoffs, co-anchor John Dickerson announced on Monday that he is leaving CBS.
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Dickerson, who has not explained the abrupt exit announced on Instagram local news,
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at the end of this year, I will leave CBS 16 years after I sat in the face of Nation Anchor for the first time.
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I'm extremely grateful for all the CBS gave me, the work, the audience, attention,
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and the honor of being a part of the network's history,
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and I'm grateful for my dear colleagues who made a better journalist
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Well, first of all, what Dickerson is really saying,
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I don't want to be in the layoff press release.
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Can I be in my own press release like a week sooner?
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There are people that know that the change is coming,
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They talk about how the severance is going to work.
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Or they just go to page 26 of the contract, Pat, you know,
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we can give you notice and then pay you this much.
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And then they go, can I look good some way getting out of this?
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Point two, you know what Barry Weiss reminds me of, Pat?
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We can't do things one at a time or two at a time.
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And I feel like she's coming in there like that and saying,
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The interesting thing is news media organizations are highly political.
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that Tom Brokaw was really tight with Warren Littlefield.
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So you could never move Brokaw unless you wanted to go to Warren Littlefield
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way, way up at the top, who reported to at the time,
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It appears that nobody is offering these protections.
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And she's able to come in and say, we're going to do this.
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She's looking for everyone she's talking to is not like far, far, far, far right.
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They have a degree of moderate middle moderation.
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And then he asked me a question about capitalism.
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And we negotiated his contract publicly, which was great.
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Disney's begging YouTube to allow ESPN to be back on there because the games they're playing.
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Disney created a website for people to go to, to lobby, to allow YouTube to put their app back on.
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To the point where Pat McAfee is saying, don't get me involved.
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This is a great opportunity for me if I'm your agent.
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I'm going to say, hey, Lachlan, Brett Baer is about to go to CBS.
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He's going to get a three-year, four-year, five-year, $75 million contract.
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What do we want to do to lock into greatest moderator of our era?
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What was even better is backstage when we came up to him.
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You have to, like, listen, say what you want about agendas and propaganda, whatever.
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You have to respect the game and respect the hustle.
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When it comes to Scott Jennings, the only, I can't watch the app, Abby Phillips, dear Abby,
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Pat, the only moment you watch Anna Navarro on there, she's just completely out of her mind.
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The only reason we're watching it is because Scott Jennings calls all of them out on their BS, okay?
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Abby Phillips is with Joy Reid, and she's sitting there describing what she does
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and how conservatives on a completely different world,
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she's sitting with Joy Reid about conspiracies.
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And guess what? Joy Reid is the one that was floating the idea that Trump wasn't really shot.
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Conservatives are living in a completely different information world than liberals.
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Because when you don't ever even hear the facts, it's hard to even know that you're wrong.
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I mean, half my job sometimes is knowing what the latest conspiracy is.
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So that if it comes up, I'm ready to address it.
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Because it happens a lot where people don't even know that what they're saying or what they've seen and believe is not true.
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And I don't come away from that saying, what's the point of this?
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Because I think that one time that that person brings up something that is debunked and false and I debunk it at the table might be the very first time that someone out there has heard an alternative point of view.
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By the way, like Scott Jennings, I have a feeling he's going to leave.
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And then who are they going to bring in to even make the Abby Phillips show even mildly watchable?
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It's all of them just patting each other on the backs.
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And she wants to talk about all this nonsense about conspiracy.
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It's just it's so rich to sit here and listen to her talk about she has to explain it.
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Abby, with all due respect, you're only doing half a job.
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And Scott Jennings is doing the other half on your show.
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If you take Abby out, does the CNN show change with Scott Jennings on?
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If you take Scott Jennings out and Abby stays, does the show do better without Scott Jennings?
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Do you understand what the question I just asked?
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He's going to go in there and just dunk on every single one of them with facts.
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And by the way, you know who else Barry Weiss is going after?
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If you remember Matt Gutman, two months ago, we talked about him when he said something.
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You guys yelled at me because I said he's an actual journalist.
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He said that he was sort of, and I do not condone this, but he was kind of like telling the love story of who's the guy that killed Charlie Kirk, allegedly.
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An alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.
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This guy almost shot a guy's head off, shot him in the neck, bled out.
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Like, he loved, by the way, his furry boyfriend, who's been missing, just FYI, for six weeks.
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Everything I hear about her is that she's very credible.
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She's a former liberal, New York Times, and maybe even Wall Street Journal.
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The free press got picked up by the Ellison, the Paramount, and everything.
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She left the enterprise of the New York Times, you know, eventually starts and builds free press,
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Instead of sitting at a nine, she's, like, at a six and a half, seven.
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And the Ellisons are looking for somebody more moderated in the middle.
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And they were also looking for, you know, podcast content.
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Just the same way that Fox, through the Red Investment Group, has been looking for podcast content.
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And they paid her $150 million, I believe, for the free press.
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But the rumors and the things that are in the media was that, yeah, that the price for her group was around that.
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And then they also brought over her staff and then made her head of the news.
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And now she's, you know, removing people, changing people, and having a lot of meetings with the right people.
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And at certain times, when Rachel Maddow was on a roll, they were in fourth place.
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You know, this is like, you know, once upon a time, they were really good.
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This is like the Yankees in 74 before Steinbrenner bought them.
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And then Steinbrenner said, this is a proud organization.
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Because they were supposedly the classiest, the one at the top, with Walter Cronkite.
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And I feel like have the Ellisons kind of made the Steinbrenner move here, and they're going to put in.
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And remember what Steinbrenner put in the dugout?
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He made some errors with Gene Mock and stuff, but he put Billy Martin in the dugout.
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Because Martin was a guy that wasn't going to take any ego from players.
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I feel like he fired him and rehired him, like, three or four times.
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But Martin was like, this is the way we're going to do it.
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So I see similarities for the Tiffany, the once-proud Tiffany Network, 60 Minutes, Walter Cronkite through the 60s and 70s.
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My goodness, now sitting there in this lowly position, Ellison's by it and say, we can do something different with this.
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Because I actually think that they discovered a model accidentally by throwing this guy in that I don't think he's extremely talented and love what he does there.
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But I don't think it's that hard to find somebody who's like that that could do the exact same thing on CBS.
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I literally led that sentence by saying he's very talented.
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And then, oh, you could just replace him with anybody.
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No, I said you could duplicate that model very easily by just putting a conservative.
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Because if they did have other people like that.
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You're actually like I said anybody could replace him.
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I said you could find somebody like that that's well-spoken.
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All right, how many other liberal media networks have put a conservative in a group of liberals?
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By the way, just so you know, Brandon is not wrong.
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Think about how many conservative, talented Scott Jennings are out there at conservative networks that liberal networks can go recruit.
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If you think about the view, the view has one conservative who hates Trump.
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She's a, you know, I don't know what you want to call it.
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She's like a, yeah, she's like a Pence conservative.
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So, but a Scott Jennings type, there are quite a few of them.
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I would say there's 50 of them out there to get.
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And what you're looking for is there's different kind of conservatives.
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Yesterday when I had Sam Shimon on, a Syrian guy, we had a conversation with him here yesterday.
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He says, I'm good if you put me to debate Muslims.
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Because he's read the Koran and the Bible, and he was quoting scripture and the Koran for two and a half hours yesterday.
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But he says, he said when, if you put me against an atheist to debate, I don't know how to debate an atheist because I've not studied atheism.
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So now, go into some other guys that you want to bring them that are multifaceted.
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Some guys, they're, you know, trick pony is what?
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Some it's, there's a lot of one trick pony guys.
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And he even talked about a guy whose name was, what was the guy's name, Rob, yesterday?
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He says, but William is a great writer, but a horrible debater.
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But the moment he did a debate with this other man named William, is that him, Rob?
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The moment he did a debate with another person, he failed the debate.
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So I think there is about 50 Scott Jennings out there.
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