Valuetainment - November 26, 2025


＂Going Against God＂ - Controversial Embryo Engineering Sparks Global Outrage Over New Tech

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Nucleus Embryo screening controversy FLB shoes
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Patrick Bet-David
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Vinny Nucleus Embryo Sidney Sweeney Ringo Starr Tom Brady Billy Boy Tuscaneiro Bailey David Adam Tico
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Fertility startup that screens embryos to predict height, intelligence, and disease sparks debate with GreyGenes campaign. Plus, why Adam and Kaitlyn are open to the idea of designer babies, and why they don t think it's a good idea.

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00:00:00.000 Fertility startup that screens embryos to predict height, intelligence, and disease sparks debate with gray genes campaign.
00:00:08.680 Rob, is this a clip on it?
00:00:09.880 Yes.
00:00:10.380 Go for it, buddy.
00:00:15.060 Is this a commercial they made for?
00:00:17.000 Yeah, an ad that they have.
00:00:17.680 I'm so excited today to announce the launch of Nucleus Embryo,
00:00:23.060 a genetic optimization software that helps parents give their children the best possible start in life.
00:00:31.500 This announcement also marks the first time a company has openly partnered with a couple
00:00:37.760 to help them optimize their embryos based on intelligence.
00:00:41.540 For me, the launch of Nucleus Embryo is deeply personal.
00:00:46.080 My parents are immigrants from Iran who came to America with nothing but conviction that me and my siblings would have more.
00:00:54.820 They sacrificed, struggled, and made bold choices that opened doors for me I could never have imagined.
00:01:02.200 But my parents, or anyone, couldn't change what they did.
00:01:05.200 I'm going to stop right here.
00:01:06.480 I'm just going to read it.
00:01:07.480 It's going to be a lot faster.
00:01:08.260 So this startup he started, Iranian guy, screening to predict a baby's height intelligence that sparked controversy, 0.98
00:01:13.780 Nucleus Genomes, blanketed Big Apple subway stations with billboards this week as part of their
00:01:18.960 Have Your Best Baby campaign, encouraging prospective parents to build generational health.
00:01:24.520 The company has also posted flyers outside American Eagle flagship in Soho reading,
00:01:29.980 These Babies Have Great Genes, a reference to that retailer Sidney Sweeney's commercial that,
00:01:35.220 oh, you've got to be kidding me.
00:01:36.860 Nucleus offers customers access to genetic optimization software, allowing them to analyze, compare,
00:01:43.100 and select their embryos based on 2,000 genetic predictions.
00:01:47.660 The technology not only screens the potential health conditions, but also physical traits,
00:01:52.540 such as eyes, hair color, causing critics to claim the company is using IVF to create designer babies.
00:01:59.280 It is.
00:02:00.360 So eugenics is profitable now. 1.00
00:02:02.600 One commuter snarked in a Navarro post on X.
00:02:05.980 That post prompted heated debate about Nucleus, while others are describing the technology as terrifying, dystopian.
00:02:11.460 However, Defenders hit back claiming the company was simply offering more options to parents.
00:02:16.340 Wouldn't you want your child to have the best possible outcome?
00:02:19.420 One asks, you're going through the IVF process anyway.
00:02:22.560 Why would you just pick a random embryo instead of the best possible one out of your lot?
00:02:27.120 How is this controversial?
00:02:28.480 I mean, it's a good argument.
00:02:29.680 They're going back and forth.
00:02:30.760 Tom, where do you stand with this?
00:02:31.920 Man, I don't think we should mess with life.
00:02:36.720 And whenever you play choose the winner, I'm really against that.
00:02:45.120 I understand that people really turn to a lot of things when you really want to have kids.
00:02:51.420 Kim and I were considering, you know, adoption.
00:02:53.460 You know, we didn't get there real tragically with our first child.
00:03:00.820 And, you know, so we refer to like Bailey as our second child.
00:03:05.660 And we understand the pain of wanting a child so badly.
00:03:09.500 But when you sit there and you listen to the IVF people when they told us, they said, well, you got to take these injections every day and you may get multiple embryos, but then we'll go do a selective reduction.
00:03:20.240 Wait a minute.
00:03:20.580 Wait a minute.
00:03:21.160 You'll do what?
00:03:21.640 Well, if you've got sextuplets, you may not want that.
00:03:24.440 So we'll go do a selective reduction.
00:03:27.060 So you're going to say, hey, you're pregnant with sextuplets.
00:03:30.540 You only want twins. 1.00
00:03:31.620 Okay.
00:03:32.020 One, two, three, four.
00:03:33.700 You lose.
00:03:34.820 And to me, that's horrifying.
00:03:37.720 Now through genetics, if they can tell propensity toward height or things like that, I don't know.
00:03:44.720 I can see why people would want a healthy child.
00:03:48.940 But it seems, I agree, really dystopian to me.
00:03:53.340 And I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
00:03:56.080 Adam, would you be open to the idea?
00:03:58.740 You and your girl are sitting there and you're a sports guy.
00:04:03.300 You know, if you had a choice to choose the height of your kid to be as detailed as possible, six, seven, you choose the look, you choose all that.
00:04:12.840 Would you want to be able to have the option to do that?
00:04:14.780 Look, the most important thing that if my girl is pregnant and she gives it a baby, when the baby's born, is that it's not black. 0.99
00:04:24.560 Because that means I'm not the father. 1.00
00:04:26.400 So stupid. 1.00
00:04:27.680 I'm just saying. 1.00
00:04:29.200 Other than that, I think the market is going to determine if this is a viable option or not.
00:04:35.020 I think, listen, my father had birth defects.
00:04:40.480 He had cerebral palsy.
00:04:41.480 It affected his physical ability.
00:04:44.780 It didn't affect his mental ability or his emotional ability or his spiritual ability.
00:04:47.800 But physically, he had major, major issues.
00:04:50.460 I'm sure my grandma, if she could go back in time and say, yeah, I don't want my son to have cerebral palsy, she would have done that.
00:04:57.660 If there's no him, there's no you.
00:04:59.320 When I was born, exactly.
00:05:01.940 When I was born, his whole thing was, is he healthy or not? 0.68
00:05:06.640 They're like, he's totally healthy, but he might be gay. 1.00
00:05:09.060 I was like, listen, Dad, why would you even bring that up?
00:05:11.980 I'm not even a...
00:05:13.180 Turns out I'm not, Vinny.
00:05:14.180 It's okay.
00:05:14.500 I got you.
00:05:15.180 However, yes.
00:05:16.720 Let me check.
00:05:17.140 If you're going to have designer handbags, if you're going to have designer dogs, like Tom Brady just duplicated his dog or whatever he did, I'm sure people are going to be very comfortable having designer babies.
00:05:30.200 So as long as a baby is healthy, that's the most important thing.
00:05:33.680 And as long as it's your kid, that's probably the second most important thing.
00:05:36.480 I have Vinny.
00:05:37.640 You know, I don't like the whole taking children and making them into like Build-A-Bears.
00:05:45.480 I think you don't mess with the author.
00:05:47.560 God made every single one of us tall, short, bad, whatever it is.
00:05:52.360 There's a purpose.
00:05:53.120 There's a reason.
00:05:53.700 Listen, I saw this video, Pat.
00:05:55.060 It would get me emotional.
00:05:55.820 I don't even want to talk about it or send it to Rob about this kid who was born and the sores.
00:06:00.620 And it's just in this suffering.
00:06:02.620 And he was so emotional in what he was saying.
00:06:04.280 But he's like, God, I am the way that I am to make other people that are going through stuff and struggling.
00:06:08.740 And I'm giving them hope.
00:06:10.820 And I'm giving them like, you know, God made like David in the Bible, short, and throwing a rock.
00:06:16.180 And everybody had their own ways.
00:06:17.500 I don't think doing this and going against God, it is what it is.
00:06:22.520 And I think this is playing a, I don't know.
00:06:25.420 It's a slippery slope, but I'm not a fan of it.
00:06:27.240 How much do you think something like this costs?
00:06:28.900 Because IVF is not cheap.
00:06:30.180 It's like $50,000?
00:06:30.840 $100,000?
00:06:31.720 I don't know.
00:06:31.940 Just IVF is $50,000.
00:06:33.760 I don't know.
00:06:34.320 I have friends of mine that don't IVF.
00:06:36.480 More than that?
00:06:36.860 And it doesn't work every single time.
00:06:38.020 I have a friend that probably spent a couple hundred thousand dollars to have kids.
00:06:42.500 They had twins.
00:06:43.660 So I have no clue how much.
00:06:44.720 This is for the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. 0.99
00:06:47.240 And by the way, they will pay for it.
00:06:49.280 No doubt.
00:06:50.400 And by the way, can we just acknowledge another Iranian entrepreneur making a contribution in America?
00:06:56.360 What is with these people?
00:06:58.300 These H-1Bs? 1.00
00:06:59.180 What is going on here?
00:06:59.960 I should have picked a model, though.
00:07:01.020 I mean, listen.
00:07:02.900 Simple observation.
00:07:03.820 If you're Iranian and you can't grow a beard, don't try to. 1.00
00:07:11.120 It's just, it's a known, like, it's very known.
00:07:14.180 Like, I'm part of that community.
00:07:16.600 You know how bad I've tried to grow a beard?
00:07:18.360 It doesn't happen.
00:07:19.460 And by the way, don't manek me and tell them to come to Turkey, I'll give you a beard. 0.99
00:07:23.240 But I'm not coming to Turkey to grow a beard here and come back.
00:07:28.240 Just swing by the Turkish H-1Bs. 1.00
00:07:29.320 But BBD, you have four kids.
00:07:31.380 They're amazing.
00:07:32.540 Not interested.
00:07:32.900 You wouldn't do something like this?
00:07:33.820 Not interested.
00:07:34.500 Not at all?
00:07:35.340 No.
00:07:35.760 No way.
00:07:36.400 I mean, are you kidding me?
00:07:37.360 Like, two, two.
00:07:40.020 No.
00:07:40.600 No.
00:07:41.320 Dilly Boy, Senna, Brooklyn, Tico, I'm good, man.
00:07:46.520 I am good.
00:07:47.200 God picked those guys for me.
00:07:48.960 And he picked me for them.
00:07:50.180 I'm a happy camper.
00:07:51.640 I'm a happy camper what we got with those guys.
00:07:53.500 The FLB shoes.
00:07:54.480 By the way, I am officially on.
00:07:56.580 Let me see this.
00:07:57.900 I'm on day 57 out of 58 that I've worn these shoes.
00:08:01.680 Love wearing these shoes every single day.
00:08:04.140 I think Vinny's got it on.
00:08:05.600 The other night, we went to dinner.
00:08:07.200 Vinny was wearing this black pants, white shirt with the FLB shoes.
00:08:13.700 We walk into the restaurant.
00:08:15.680 Seven girls lined up waiting to meet with Vinny.
00:08:18.480 One girl was crying.
00:08:19.360 She was crying.
00:08:20.080 She was shaking.
00:08:20.520 She was crying.
00:08:21.160 She was shaking.
00:08:21.760 The shoes.
00:08:22.460 I was like, I can't.
00:08:23.240 Are you Ringo Starr?
00:08:24.380 So for those of you guys that are asking about getting the shoes before Christmas for your
00:08:30.740 husband or your sons or your friend, this is what you want to be thinking about.
00:08:35.420 Size black and brown.
00:08:38.820 Size black and brown.
00:08:40.140 Let me see this thing here.
00:08:41.040 If I'm like, what's available?
00:08:44.760 So size black and brown, if you want to get them, size 9, 10, and 11 are available to get
00:08:50.980 before Christmas.
00:08:52.420 White, all sizes are available except for 7, 7 1⁄2, and 8 1⁄2.
00:08:56.820 Navy, 8, 9, 9 1⁄2, 10, and 11 are available before Christmas.
00:09:00.920 Of course, after Christmas, shipment is coming.
00:09:03.180 That'll be here in New Year's.
00:09:03.940 These things, we can't even keep these on the shelves, to be honest with you, with the
00:09:06.780 shoes.
00:09:07.460 Once you put them on, just go read the reviews, with people writing reviews when they bought
00:09:12.320 them.
00:09:12.880 Once you put them on, you'll realize why this has become as hot of an item for us as we
00:09:18.980 expected it.
00:09:19.780 It took us two years to do this.
00:09:20.920 Rob, if you want to play the clip on that, and we'll get into the stories.
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00:09:24.300 Go for it.
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00:09:38.620 We chose true Italian craftsmanship, each pair touched by 50 skilled hands.
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