“Green Light From MS-13” - How Ex-President SURVIVED Prison Assassination w⧸ Diddy, SBF & 6ix9ine
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with a man who has been in prison for almost 20 years. He talks about his time in prison, his relationship with Sam Bankman-Fried and Diddy, and how they helped him get out.
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By the way, this jail, if some people are wondering who stayed here, Whitey Bulger stayed at this jail, okay?
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Anthony Tonacosta, mob-related inmates after Bulger.
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Okay, you got some very MS-13 and Latin King cartel killers stay at this place.
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Fotios Freddy Gis, Frank Cadillac Frank, Salami, James Alec Fields Jr.
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You got some interesting people that stayed here.
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So they're sending you to a place as if you're a full-on killer is what you are.
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And you said you got three, four, so this is January 16th, January 15th.
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Is that around the day of 2025 when they put you in jail?
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No, when President Trump wins, this is the last time, five days before they gave the order to move me.
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So January 15th, because Trump—oh, Trump won, but he got elected.
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And when you were there, is this where you met Sam Bankman-Fried?
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You were in prison with Diddy and Sam Bankman-Fried?
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Well, at the beginning, you know, I didn't know them as the figures as they were.
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I mean, but also, I was just by myself, you know, reviewing my case and my things.
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And, but I didn't know until the other inmates told me—
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Those guys are really big in music and things like that.
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But with Sam, we developed a close relationship.
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He was—we were talking about my case, things like that.
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I met my—his father and mother, and because he—at one point, I was really preoccupied about my family when they—when I know that they had that green light from the MS-13 over my daughters.
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And he said, listen, you have to move your family from Honduras.
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And we were, you know, talking about how can we do it.
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And at the end, I told my lawyer, you have to call my wife, and you have to tell her and do whatever you want you have to do in order to protect them.
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But at the end, I have to be in my home for almost three months without going out at all.
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And, you know, it's—at one point, I said to God, I made my peace with God, and I said, my Lord, you can do whatever you want with me.
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It is—you're right, but please protect my family.
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Did Sam Bankman-Fried help you financially with the family, or no?
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He was a very quiet guy, but he was—he had new ideas about the world.
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And when he was reviewing my case, he said, listen, this is clearly a setup.
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You already passed for a trial, and you know what it is.
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And it is hard, you know, when the prosecutors and the judge agreed that you cannot, for example,
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they didn't allow me to bring the experts from Honduras to explain the jurors how I passed those laws.
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To pass the extradition law, the ceasing of assets law, the anti-money laundry law, the reform of the police.
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It's easy to say it, but to do it is a huge risk.
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And they were going to come to explain to that.
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And, you know, the judge agreed with the prosecutors, and they didn't allow them to come to do it.
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Do you know what Sam Bankman-Fried said about you?
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Sam Bankman-Fried told Mario Nafal, Rob, I think you have it somewhere, and he explains to him that, he says,
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I spent a year and a half in the same unit as Juan Orlando.
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And I can't think of a single inmate more deserving of a pardon.
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He was framed, and SPF spent extensive time helping yourself with trial prep and reviewed evidence.
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And his account, you were convicted in 2024 for decades-long cocaine conspiracy involving hundreds of murders.
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But the actual evidence, a ceremonial machine gun, a selfie with a cartel-connected soccer fan,
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and testimony from the exact cartel leaders, you were arrested and extradited.
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Those cartel leaders were offered early release if they could implicate a bigger fish.
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They chose to testify against a man who put them in prison.
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Every major cartel leadership extradited to the U.S.
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He was probably the most effective anti-cartel leader in the world.
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Juan Orlando is the most innocent prisoner I've met, including myself.
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The pardon came days before Honduras' November 30th election,
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where Trump endorsed Nasri Asfura of your national party.
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The Trump warning, there will be hell to pay if the electoral body changes the result.
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You know, we were getting into the elevator coming from the legal...
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And I said, look, you have to keep your mind busy.
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But also, if you are going to fight your case, get into that with your lawyers.
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Be busy because this thing could make you crazy.
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But if you focus on that, and then he continued to do that.
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There were some discussion between another guy,
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between if they were going to see some channel from the news or the other.
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Oh, he was fighting with another guy for what he wanted?
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He was trying to watch a documentary by the guy in the 50s.
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At one point, I was watching a dish, and there was another dish there.
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I said, I don't know which dish, who it belonged to.
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And I said, listen, I mean, I can clean the floor here.
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They think that because you are a president, you are like a...
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And I think that that's helped me with a lot of respect from so many people in jail, too.
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With this guy, Takashi, I think it was about a couple of months.
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With Diddy, it could be a little bit longer than that.
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And with Sam, I think it could be a year and a half.
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Oh, so you guys spend real time together with Sam.
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Well, with Sam, we prepare a lot of questions for my trial.
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And unfortunately, my lawyer, we lost confidence and trust with him, but we lost communication.
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And at the end, when I finally came and said, listen, I know that you don't have any questions for the witnesses.
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And then when he was looking at that, he said, this is amazing.
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