Valuetainment - May 27, 2026


＂Half A Billion Late＂ - Rick Ross CONFRONTS His Correctional Officer Past

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Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Phil Collins Rosé Robert Greene Master Ace Kid Frost Jay-Z Thick Daddy La Raza Drake Rakim
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13 minutes

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2,065

Sentence count

233

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2

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Toxicity

14

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with one of the greatest rappers of all time, Juice WRLD. We talk about his early life growing up in the streets of LA, how he got his start in the music industry, and how he became a multi-millionaire.

Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Who's the first big name that targeted you when you started getting momentum?
00:00:34.040 Because, you know, there's a lot of beef in rap,
00:00:36.480 and you've had many of them.
00:00:37.440 You've had 50 Cent, Drake.
00:00:39.980 It wasn't no one that really targeted me.
00:00:42.480 It was a good chance I initiated it.
00:00:47.460 Got it.
00:00:48.200 Right.
00:00:49.040 Intentional.
00:00:49.960 Yeah.
00:00:50.880 Have you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power?
00:00:53.140 I have.
00:00:54.860 I know Robert Greene personally.
00:00:56.980 Great guy.
00:00:57.500 He's a friend.
00:00:58.700 He just posted my new book that I just released for me.
00:01:01.460 Thank you, Robert.
00:01:02.560 Most definitely.
00:01:03.980 Yeah, I mean, so do you think there's a lot of that going on in hip-hop?
00:01:08.700 40 Laws of Power, the things he talks about?
00:01:11.460 It may be a little bit of it, but it'll be a lot more success.
00:01:15.740 It'll be a lot more wealth if they was really focusing the way they should.
00:01:21.060 What do you mean? 0.96
00:01:21.860 I mean, there's a lot of fucked-up things going on. 0.96
00:01:25.040 There's a lot of losses being made. 0.98
00:01:26.720 In hip-hop?
00:01:27.320 Of course. Life, period.
00:01:29.760 But most definitely in hip-hop, we see people going to prison every day.
00:01:33.600 We see people losing their lives every day.
00:01:37.000 I was talking about getting to the money for their laws of power,
00:01:41.020 playing by the rules, being great.
00:01:43.340 So you have a rare combination because early on, a lot of, you know,
00:01:47.420 when the story came out, you were a correctional officer for what,
00:01:50.400 the 18 months or whatever you did, 16 months, 17 months, 18 months? 1.00
00:01:53.760 No, it was shit. Much less than that. 0.99
00:01:57.320 But whatever the story was, that shit, they're half a billion late, man. 1.00
00:02:02.680 Half a billion late. 1.00
00:02:03.960 Yeah.
00:02:04.860 But you have a street life and you have a little bit of that.
00:02:07.720 How does that happen? 1.00
00:02:09.820 That's Rosé being a hustler. 1.00
00:02:13.020 There's not many people that can understand that.
00:02:16.680 I think I actually can because there's an element of understanding the law if you go to it.
00:02:23.580 Was that the intention originally?
00:02:26.000 Not at all.
00:02:27.320 Not at all.
00:02:28.860 Just hustling.
00:02:30.920 Just hustling.
00:02:32.780 I mean, look, I read somewhere that you were making $23,000, $28,000
00:02:36.860 as a correctional officer, so it's not like it was paying very well.
00:02:42.860 Oh, man, I was hustling, man.
00:02:46.520 And, you know, that's how hustlers respond to that.
00:02:50.520 It's much deeper than rap, baby.
00:02:54.620 Much, much deeper than rap.
00:02:57.320 Tell me more.
00:02:58.340 Tell me when you say much deeper than rap.
00:03:00.820 I'm letting you know that's how hustlers, a boss like myself, respond to that.
00:03:05.680 It's not much more to even say.
00:03:10.440 They missed that part of my life.
00:03:12.380 They missed it.
00:03:13.460 The part about the hustling.
00:03:14.980 Oh, man.
00:03:17.520 It's too easy.
00:03:20.940 Which part?
00:03:21.960 That they missed it or the life was too easy?
00:03:23.740 Oh, they most definitely missed it.
00:03:25.680 now what they could do is listen to the music they could read the books and just close their
00:03:32.180 eyes and just imagine what it was like oh man what it most definitely got it and and how how
00:03:42.820 important is the game of hip-hop i came up in la i lived in la 20 something years so for me my
00:03:52.920 Hip-hop was R.B. El Posse, Rappin' Forte, Too Short, Master Ace.
00:03:58.840 I don't know if you remember Master Ace, the I&C ride, right?
00:04:01.560 Of course.
00:04:02.060 Of course.
00:04:03.660 Shout out to Master Ace, too.
00:04:04.980 Yeah, he's phenomenal.
00:04:05.760 It was who's the first Mexican rapper that got a half a million dollars from
00:04:10.320 Suge, the East Side Rendezvous.
00:04:14.260 What was his name?
00:04:16.440 My God, I can't remember.
00:04:17.280 Kid Frost.
00:04:17.940 I don't know if you remember Kid Frost.
00:04:19.100 I do remember Kid Frost. 0.95
00:04:20.100 It was Lighter Shade of Brown, if you remember Lighter Shade of Brown. 0.71
00:04:23.400 Maybe you don't. 0.76
00:04:24.120 It was these guys.
00:04:25.680 And on the R&B side, it was, you know.
00:04:29.620 This is La Raza.
00:04:31.560 Jodeci. 0.91
00:04:32.080 Yeah, this is for La Raza. 0.75
00:04:33.180 That's right.
00:04:33.700 That was a great hit, right?
00:04:35.360 It was.
00:04:35.960 And there was almost, how big of a role does it play that you have street credit,
00:04:42.740 that you've had that life?
00:04:45.060 How big of a role does that play?
00:04:46.580 um i think first and foremost the music is the most important part because these you know the
00:04:57.660 i can only imagine i don't see really a lot of street in the ones that's making the music
00:05:05.840 they could discuss it you know speak on behalf of their where they from their city this or that but
00:05:12.480 But as far as the music, first and foremost,
00:05:15.500 now what goes on behind the scene and how you move,
00:05:18.680 are you really a boss?
00:05:20.000 Are you really, you know, strong enough to be able to make these moves
00:05:24.220 and the streets accept it?
00:05:26.340 You know, that's something totally different.
00:05:30.440 That's something totally different.
00:05:31.640 So the street accepts the street credit or not?
00:05:36.080 the streets for me will most definitely play a role in um streets you understand the streets
00:05:48.280 gonna play a role in the streets and as if you are artists first and foremost your music your
00:05:54.860 craft and your gift is what's most important how far you go after that that's between you and the
00:06:04.000 streets uh rose who did who did you meet in the game because you give me the vibes of a very driven
00:06:11.980 competitive guy facts yeah who did you meet in the game where you said these are the five real
00:06:17.900 og players these are the guys i'll be competing with the next couple decades you know for me and
00:06:25.580 the way i move i i necessarily don't even pit myself against or competing against the i the
00:06:33.200 legends so to me that's like me saying i would compete against big i would never do that i don't
00:06:39.060 see you as i would never compete against park i would never compete against jay-z i would never
00:06:44.780 compete against you know luke records in no kind of aspect because that's where i got the game from
00:06:50.700 you know what i'm saying that's the love and the respect that i have but um anybody else
00:06:58.300 It's not really nobody that's on my level for me to go against.
00:07:04.300 It's nothing to go against.
00:07:06.480 Nobody at your level.
00:07:08.180 No.
00:07:09.040 So you're giving the praise to Jay-Z, to...
00:07:12.720 The ones who raised me, the ones who showed me the game.
00:07:17.800 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:18.420 Yeah.
00:07:19.000 Yeah, the ones who I really absorbed the most game from.
00:07:24.200 You know what I mean?
00:07:24.860 when I was listening to two short records.
00:07:27.160 You know, when I run into these dudes,
00:07:29.320 when I just announced yesterday that Scarface is performing at my car show,
00:07:35.200 June 13th, it's like Scarface.
00:07:37.240 I would never go against Scarface.
00:07:40.060 You know, he got 20 records out.
00:07:43.400 I listened to all of them.
00:07:45.040 I bought them all.
00:07:46.920 Didn't he do something with Tupac?
00:07:48.800 Of course.
00:07:49.300 I got keys coming from overseas, right?
00:07:51.180 No, no, no, no.
00:07:52.380 No, that's All Eyes on Me with Tupac.
00:07:54.460 but Scarface and Tupac, they most definitely did it.
00:07:57.860 Oh, I remember this song.
00:07:58.860 What's the song with him and Tupac?
00:08:01.100 Rob, can you pull up the song Scarface did with Tupac?
00:08:04.040 The moment I hear the lyrics, I know which one it is.
00:08:07.740 Smile.
00:08:09.000 Smile.
00:08:10.740 Oh, man.
00:08:11.820 You get a smile.
00:08:13.040 Is that the one?
00:08:13.820 That's it.
00:08:14.320 That's the one.
00:08:14.740 That's one of them.
00:08:15.540 Wow.
00:08:16.040 Because they did a couple of them, right?
00:08:17.520 Facts.
00:08:18.340 That's 97, 30 years ago.
00:08:20.740 So, would you consider yourself a fan of the game as well?
00:08:24.880 Like you said, I listen to his.
00:08:26.380 So, who do you listen to?
00:08:27.520 Who are people that you listen to that maybe they're even current players?
00:08:32.420 I just told you my playlist is that's rosé.
00:08:36.560 Old school is where it's just a dope classic.
00:08:40.240 You know, I just mentioned DJ Quick earlier.
00:08:43.060 So, from the West Coast to the East Coast, of course, all down south.
00:08:48.240 But, like, did you listen to Andre 3000, Outkast?
00:08:50.520 Of course.
00:08:51.480 That's crumbling nerve.
00:08:52.940 It's nobody that could not listen to Outkast.
00:08:55.960 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:57.500 So that's automatic.
00:08:58.540 Greatest albums, those guys.
00:08:59.660 That album was just, it's another one of those Sade ones that you just play it.
00:09:02.860 Just let it go, and you can listen to every song.
00:09:05.580 Of course.
00:09:06.320 Yeah.
00:09:07.400 Trick Daddy.
00:09:09.000 That's everything.
00:09:10.940 My playlist jumped from, you know what I'm saying? 1.00
00:09:12.800 My shit is 1.00
00:09:16.420 Rosé's shit is special 1.00
00:09:18.160 That's just my sound 1.00
00:09:21.480 Is your playlist public or is it a private
00:09:23.600 playlist? I don't even know
00:09:25.440 You gotta make your playlist public
00:09:27.200 Of course
00:09:29.760 Is this P.M. Dawn? Who is this?
00:09:33.260 Of course, that's P.M. Dawn
00:09:33.960 Wow, P.M. Dawn
00:09:35.200 What a great song
00:09:37.760 It's amazing
00:09:38.640 You know what's my favorite P.M. Dawn song?
00:09:42.580 It's not that one, the other one.
00:09:45.320 What's this one you're playing?
00:09:46.480 It's EPMD.
00:09:47.460 Please listen to my demo.
00:09:49.200 And for music lovers like myself,
00:09:52.260 I was young when I heard this
00:09:54.300 and realized there wasn't no kicks, no drums.
00:09:58.840 It was just a loop.
00:09:59.700 I don't even know if it's producers that know that.
00:10:06.400 You got to make your playlist public.
00:10:12.600 My kids love this song.
00:10:15.020 Phenomenal song.
00:10:16.100 The kids are genius.
00:10:17.460 Remember the guy, the skateboard guy with this guy.
00:10:19.640 I don't know if you know which one I'm talking about.
00:10:21.300 That's him, right?
00:10:22.500 He's drinking the grape juice, or what drink was he drinking?
00:10:25.900 What a great song.
00:10:27.280 This rosé playlist.
00:10:28.840 80s.
00:10:29.480 Good for you.
00:10:30.680 Wow.
00:10:31.920 Phil Collins?
00:10:33.220 Phil Collins, yeah.
00:10:34.340 Of course.
00:10:36.920 Yeah, Phil Collins just, didn't he just turn 80?
00:10:40.020 I just saw something about Phil Collins turned 70 or 80, something like that.
00:10:45.720 Age?
00:10:49.100 76, yeah, 75.
00:10:50.500 This is my recent play.
00:10:53.960 This ain't recently searched.
00:10:57.820 This ain't this list that I'm playing from.
00:11:00.300 This is something that.
00:11:00.660 Recent.
00:11:01.540 Yeah, this is what I'm smoking and riding to on the way here.
00:11:07.640 Folks falling like rain.
00:11:09.100 So the Rosé playlist is, my musical acronym is different.
00:11:15.720 Who's your top five?
00:11:16.620 Top five all-time rappers.
00:11:20.000 Big Pop, Jay-Z, Trick Daddy, 305 Miami, without a doubt.
00:11:29.240 He spoke for the kids. 0.51
00:11:32.000 He spoke for the ghetto, of course. 0.51
00:11:34.300 And we could debate that. 0.92
00:11:37.300 It's too easy.
00:11:37.900 Who's your fifth?
00:11:38.500 Do you put Nas in there or do you put Andre in there?
00:11:41.920 I'm going to put – I'm happy to say Nas without a doubt.
00:11:47.640 Nas five.
00:11:48.180 Yeah, and when I say Nas, Nas spoke for that militant street,
00:11:56.020 that wise young hustler.
00:11:58.100 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:58.700 He was fly with it, getting to the money young.
00:12:01.320 You know what I mean?
00:12:01.800 So it's a lot of things that go with when I say top five.
00:12:05.020 And when I say it, my top five used to change every week.
00:12:08.500 when I'm smoking good and what I'm feeling like.
00:12:12.840 So it is like that.
00:12:14.820 Do you have a top five 80s, not even rap, just 80s music?
00:12:19.200 Because you just played an 80s song.
00:12:20.780 I played a lot of 80s songs.
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