Valuetainment - June 23, 2026


＂He's A True Believer＂ – Why Rubio May Be Tougher On Iran Than JD Vance


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00:00:30.000 You had Miriam Adelson that gave $100 million to the president's campaign, I believe.
00:00:37.340 She came out and she had an article.
00:00:39.760 I don't know if you guys have that article or not, if you want to pull it up.
00:00:42.020 Then, there's two stories.
00:00:44.020 Adelson that came out and said, you could have been the greatest president of all time, but you failed.
00:00:48.240 Mr. President, you have greatly harmed the human interests of the enlightened world,
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00:00:58.200 the contempt you once faced suddenly seems so justified and logical danny's aching rise to the 0.93
00:01:05.120 u.s president okay so that's that now another story is with uh the murdochs which is what fox
00:01:11.280 news i don't know what page that's in i saw it earlier in uh one of the articles um oh there it
00:01:15.900 is murdoch outlets turn on trump's deal and this is a newsweek story now uh uh on what they're
00:01:23.860 talking about with trump so you got fox and murdoch's two of the most heavyweight names in
00:01:28.640 conservative media uh murdoch's being the most the biggest heavyweight but adelson being a they
00:01:34.120 bought the mavericks i think from uh mark cuban and a rare break from one of trump's most important
00:01:38.860 media ecosystem fox the wall street journal and new york post have all published criticism
00:01:43.640 of the administration's iran agreement the criticism is notable because murdoch's owned
00:01:48.560 outlets have frequently aligned with trump over the past decade and remain highly influential
00:01:52.800 amongst Republican voters, Fox News hosts are questioning whether Iran actually lost.
00:02:00.200 This is Brian Kelmey called the Memorandum of Understanding very vague and concerning.
00:02:04.900 Then you have Mark Levin has emerged as one of the deal's harshest critics.
00:02:08.280 Then Wall Street Journal and New York Post raised similar concerns in the editorial.
00:02:12.660 So this is a battle that he's facing today.
00:02:15.620 So this is what it leads me to.
00:02:17.100 It leads to this conversation of Vance versus Rubio.
00:02:23.780 Vance versus Rubio.
00:02:25.200 And why is this such a big story?
00:02:27.000 Well, Forbes has this article, and you know I don't give a lot of credit to Forbes
00:02:31.040 that went from being the capitalist tool to the socialist tool.
00:02:34.160 But Forbes writes this article of Iran war spotlights, Rubio versus Vance battle.
00:02:40.340 Trump has increasingly pitted these two against each other.
00:02:42.540 This is what the article says.
00:02:44.800 Rubio is likely to have the support of Wall Street and establishment donors,
00:02:47.920 While Vance has deep ties to Silicon Valley, which has become more friendly with Republicans since Trump's first term and was less of a factor in the 2016 presidential election, the last time Rubio ran.
00:02:59.700 Vance has also cozied up to billionaire donors as the Republican National Committee, the finance chair, et cetera, et cetera.
00:03:05.100 Numerous reports have emerged of Trump asking his billionaire friends who they support.
00:03:09.320 And Trump's knowledge publicly is watching the pair.
00:03:11.600 Okay. If you see this situation, when the president was speaking about, you know, you know, the joke when the guy said, well, if it works out, you can take the response, take the victory. If it doesn't, you can blame who? J.D. Vance. Remember that? And do you remember who was standing behind him? Who was standing behind him? One guy was standing behind him. And that was who? That was Marco Rubio.
00:03:38.160 And Rubio, when he was standing back there, he wasn't smiling.
00:03:46.100 Why was he not smiling?
00:03:47.460 I don't know.
00:03:48.140 Again, remember, guys, we just speculate.
00:03:50.500 We're not on the inside to tell you exactly what's going on.
00:03:53.640 We're just giving you speculation and access to some of the context that we have when we speak to them.
00:03:58.380 So, guys, I'm going to send you this clip, see if you can pull this up or not on Twitter,
00:04:02.280 because I know Twitter's having issues right now.
00:04:04.460 It's a clip of what Marco Rubio said about Iran.
00:04:06.860 okay it's a video about what marco rubio said about iran i think it's worth watching is this
00:04:12.560 the one from like 10 years ago uh i don't know when this video was from was he in congress let
00:04:17.680 me this video is if you can check to see when when this no he's not in congress you're saying
00:04:23.700 2015 no no i'm not going that uh that far back let me know if you guys got the video uh because
00:04:30.060 The video is from June 19th by Rubio.
00:04:34.320 Like 2026, very recent.
00:04:36.180 Yeah, I'm trying to see if these guys are pulling it up or not.
00:04:38.140 Okay, there they are.
00:04:39.120 Okay, can you also fact check to see when this was?
00:04:43.820 Because it says to me June 19th there, but is this a recent or is it an older video?
00:04:51.740 Okay, because I think this is a recent video of what he's saying.
00:04:55.420 Go ahead and play the clip.
00:04:56.580 I'll pull up the dates and I'll tell you.
00:04:57.840 I want the audience to see this.
00:04:58.940 Go for it, folks.
00:05:00.060 i'm either deaf or i can't hear audio can we get audio guys
00:05:06.360 it's very important for guys to see this video
00:05:10.420 okay then if there's no audio on the clip then don't worry about it but this is a video from a
00:05:18.380 few months back on what he said i think this is a february 15 clip where he is not necessarily pro
00:05:24.900 negotiating with these folks to see if they're going to keep their deal or not.
00:05:29.420 Now, this has been said for a long time.
00:05:31.420 So, I don't know what Rubio's position is here.
00:05:34.700 I don't know if Rubio wants to see IRGC stay intact.
00:05:38.020 I don't know if he is someone that is okay with this deal getting done.
00:05:42.200 I don't know if Hexed wants this.
00:05:43.880 They got to realize Hexed is military, and Rubio is a guy that's been there for a minute.
00:05:49.420 JD is more of an outsider that got in, okay, that's involved.
00:05:52.740 So, Rubio's been involved a lot longer.
00:05:54.760 Hex that's been in the military a lot longer.
00:05:57.060 So I don't know if the entire administration is on the same page or not about this.
00:06:01.680 It's a great thing about team of rivals, but it's also about watching to see what's happening.
00:06:05.980 So I think this is going to lead to a big debate on the stage in 2028 on where they each stand.
00:06:12.140 And I actually look forward to the primaries of the host, Brett Baer, asking the question,
00:06:18.820 where do you each stand with IRGC moving forward in Iran?
00:06:23.380 I'm curious to know what both Rubio and J.D.'s positions will be on this.
00:06:27.800 Tom, what do you think they're going to lie with this?
00:06:29.340 How do you process this between the two of them?
00:06:31.560 I think Rubio's been pretty clear.
00:06:34.000 He doesn't want to necessarily put tens of thousands of boots on the ground
00:06:37.920 and risk those lives.
00:06:39.820 But I think he's been clear that you needed – if you're going to do this,
00:06:43.120 you've got to get all the way in there and you've got to take care of IRGC.
00:06:47.220 I think Rubio hasn't put out battle plans, but I think he's been clear there.
00:06:53.000 And I don't know where J.D. Vance is exactly. He's clearly out there supporting the deal, supporting getting a deal done.
00:07:05.460 So he's using deal language in support of the president. And he's been on tour using deal language.
00:07:12.000 language. But I honestly think that Rubio, dating back to his eight years ago in the Senate where he
00:07:20.060 openly said, hey, the issues that you're going to have with Iran is the regime. And he has said the
00:07:27.080 same things that Adam has repeated. They don't care about their people. So this is a different
00:07:31.560 type of situation. It's not negotiation. So that's where I think they are, Pat. I think he really
00:07:36.960 wanted to go a little deeper and get and force the regime change and i think uh vance is out
00:07:42.680 there talking deal uh we needed to get through this and ease that kind of language yeah do you
00:07:48.300 think 2028 let's say rubio becomes the president hypothetically do you think this will come back
00:07:54.720 up on the issue he's moving on from this you think let's just say they get a deal done and 0.76
00:07:59.640 irgc is going to be irgc these are terrorists these are not regular people they don't live
00:08:03.300 the way we do and they're going to keep causing chaos they're not going to slow down they're 0.92
00:08:06.740 going to try to renege the deal a million times of course how do you think rubio is going to handle
00:08:11.320 that um not well um i think he'll do a good job with it but i do not think they should screw around
00:08:19.400 with marco rubio if he becomes president um i i think they need to understand that he's going to
00:08:26.840 be who's a bigger true believer with iran him or trump i think rubio is a true believer of what the
00:08:34.220 real i think in terms of who's a true believer in what the real situation terrorism irgc they're
00:08:41.200 not good for the rubio believes that all the way to his heart i think so as well i think trump is
00:08:45.760 more ability to kind of see the market and seeing what's going on with the economy and say look
00:08:49.740 i may not like these guys but i got bigger problems to solve let me go back to the u.s
00:08:53.940 economy and let me try to get a deal with these guys i don't know if rubio will i think rubio is
00:08:57.900 going to be like no we have to put these guys out my opinion my opinion i don't even think jd
00:09:03.040 This is a top 10 issue for J.D.
00:09:05.460 There's a lot of people right now around the president
00:09:10.580 that are trying to solve for four and four.
00:09:12.800 $4 gas and under 4% inflation.
00:09:16.520 Great point.
00:09:18.340 The only thing that I'm worried about, Pat,
00:09:20.320 we keep hearing all this stuff about Democrat,
00:09:23.280 the rise of socialism, rise of this communist mentality.
00:09:27.220 I just hope that all this war that Americans are sick and tired of,
00:09:31.380 affordability everything that's happening right now that that's not the main issue where they go
00:09:35.540 you know what to hell with this you know Trump loving MAGA Rubio or JD Vance we're gonna go
00:09:41.420 this way because they're anti-war and you know what they're gonna give us free stuff that's the
00:09:46.220 one thing that that really really bothers me because I believe Tom like when you mentioned
00:09:49.460 the Miriam Adelson pack goes back to her husband Sheldon they've been giving over a hundred million
00:09:53.540 I want to say 200 million dollars so when you give that type of money I'm not surprised but Tom if I
00:09:57.960 gave you 200 million dollars and i'm from a certain country i'm expecting certain things and
00:10:02.580 when you're not doing it you're seeing them talking crap but my question is i'm curious 0.93
00:10:05.940 what's their prescription what is winning in your mentality i'm not talking about you i'm talking 0.97
00:10:10.640 about them for this war because we can't kill our way out of it back because if we go in there 0.96
00:10:15.460 to to get rid of irgc you know what that means full ground invasion full air attack and a bunch 0.93
00:10:21.660 of civilians are going to die so i think we're in a bad situation you know i'm hoping and i'm 0.71
00:10:26.660 praying to God that they make something where and Adam you nailed it it's a what's the MOU
00:10:31.000 memorandum of understanding you said Pat you're negotiating with terrorists that kill their own
00:10:37.660 people there's no winning I'm just the only thing that bothers me is that I think the president was
00:10:42.640 told it was going to be quick and this and it's anything but well there's two different messages
00:10:47.320 the message from Adelson and help me out here because I know you've read about this Adam is
00:10:51.680 what the hell did you do i didn't sign up for this that's really her headline yes fox is saying
00:10:57.900 what the hell are we doing i don't think this is a good deal that's what fox is saying 0.78
00:11:04.260 so what do you want me to address right now marco rubio and and vance yes in general or
00:11:10.600 specifically you can go anywhere because it's iran top well look this is a conversation that
00:11:14.760 it's not going to stop let me just start with the obvious there's never going to be another trump
00:11:19.560 everyone wants to find out who's going to be who's taking the mantle from trump trump is one of one
00:11:24.720 i think you understand that you would agree with that you course you sort of coined that phrase
00:11:28.440 but who's going to be the successor so let me just give you some numbers some stats some tom
00:11:33.100 biz duck stuff how old will rubio be when he becomes president he'll be 57 years old how old
00:11:39.300 would jd vance be be 44 i'm 45 years old 46 i don't want a president younger than me i'm sorry
00:11:46.060 not yet i want one okay but more than that more than their age difference talking about having
00:11:51.440 experience and being seasoned do you know how long jd vance has had political power three years
00:11:58.800 three years he was a senator for two years and he's been a vice president for a year and a half
00:12:04.280 three years how long has marco rubio been in politics 28 years so to me it's a completely
00:12:11.080 different resume of who's ready for the job. To me, Vance, respectfully, gifted, gifted politician,
00:12:20.020 still figuring things out, still figuring himself out. That's what this comes down to. In my opinion,
00:12:27.800 Rubio has complete clarity. This is who I am. This is what I stand for. Everything I wasn't so sure
00:12:34.100 about, i.e. Trump, where he was at with him, I think he has complete clarity. This is who I am.
00:12:40.300 This is what I stand for.
00:12:41.660 And it just shows.
00:12:43.300 When he gets up there speaking, it's just he knows all the info.
00:12:46.840 He knows all the workaround.
00:12:49.820 He knows all the gotcha questions.
00:12:51.500 To me, he's probably, you know, they said about Hillary Clinton that she was the most experienced candidate we've ever seen.
00:12:58.680 That's Marco Rubio, but with the back.
00:13:00.500 But he better.
00:13:01.280 But Adam, if it comes down to Rubio and J.D. Vance, Pat, debating on that stage and this war isn't cleaned up by then,
00:13:06.840 jd vance who can debate his butt off is going to have a lot of ammunition going against the guy
00:13:11.780 that's been in for 28 years which and i love that he said i want to see it by the way i want to see
00:13:16.860 it but and that about it and if they think sending jd is like okay go i'm going to blame everything
00:13:20.760 on you he's busting his butt and he's that's going to give him ammunition to be like hey
00:13:24.400 i tried i was in those rooms and what they say well president trump said he's less enthusiastic 0.97
00:13:29.360 about this war that's what's going to come down to i actually think it's going to be a good matchup
00:13:33.460 Me too.
00:13:33.800 I like it.
00:13:34.580 Actually, it's going to be a good matchup,
00:13:36.400 and I look forward to the matchup to see how the market's going to react to it.
00:13:39.100 I think it's going to be great for TV.
00:13:40.580 And I hope they don't do the, oh, we are friends,
00:13:44.300 and I hope they actually do it because they've got to play.
00:13:48.220 They've got to go through the debate.
00:13:49.220 What do you think their relationship is like at this point?
00:13:51.720 I think it's good.
00:13:51.780 You think they're on the same team?
00:13:52.820 You think they're working together?
00:13:54.020 No, no, no.
00:13:54.040 They're not philosophically on the same page.
00:13:56.080 They're not.
00:13:57.040 But for the first time ever, I saw Rubio with a look that I don't think he agrees
00:14:01.520 with what's going on with Iran.
00:14:02.660 And I didn't think he wanted to smile. 0.88
00:14:04.960 I think he intentionally didn't want to smile.
00:14:07.160 If you ever go into a place where, you know, where guys will come and they're like, well, hey, what's up?
00:14:14.660 And you're like, no, man, you know, Pat Riley, we're not we're not we're not smiling and going and having dinner with Michael.
00:14:21.020 You know, Pat Riley had a rule in Michael Jordan's retirement speech that he gave.
00:14:25.660 Do you know what he said?
00:14:26.940 No, he says, I'll never forget.
00:14:28.660 I called Oakley one time.
00:14:30.040 He said, oh, let's have dinner.
00:14:31.240 Oakley used to be Jordan's teammate before at Chicago.
00:14:34.800 I don't even know if you knew about this.
00:14:36.340 He got traded for Bill Cartwright.
00:14:38.320 So he had Oakley.
00:14:39.960 Oakley was a protector.
00:14:41.380 He says, hey, let's go have dinner together.
00:14:42.980 He's like, no, I can't, man.
00:14:44.140 What do you mean you can't?
00:14:45.120 Coach won't let.
00:14:46.240 What do you mean coach won't let?
00:14:47.660 Riley was like, you don't have dinner with the enemy.
00:14:51.100 And that drove Michael insane, but he respected the hell out of it.
00:14:54.800 I think a little bit of where Rubio is right now,
00:14:58.060 he's trying to stay stoic and say this.
00:15:00.120 look, I'm just doing my job, but when I become, if I get the opportunity,
00:15:04.660 we would handle this slightly in a different way than what's going on today.
00:15:07.760 I think he would be, I think Trump is more of a negotiator.
00:15:11.500 I think Rubio is more of a true believer in this issue.
00:15:13.960 He's not negotiating.
00:15:14.800 He just says, you guys are not good for the world,
00:15:16.760 and I think here's when he's stopping.
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