Valuetainment - ＂Heads Are Going to Roll＂ - Pentagon's Signal Scandal ALARMS Navy SEALs DJ Shipley & Cole Fackler

00:00:00.000 yesterday we get ward and i want to get your thoughts on this yesterday's story comes out

00:00:03.580 rob if you want to pull this up the whole signal gate whatever they want to call it right the

00:00:07.160 signal chat with pete exit you know pentagon inspector general opens investigation into exit

00:00:12.680 signal chat scandal the white house said this week that the case has been closed on the signal

00:00:17.600 scandal the pentagon's inspector general opened it back up and then uh rob is this the one where

00:00:22.800 six people got fired yesterday can you go that's a separate article that's this one right here

00:00:27.260 trump fired six national security staffers after meeting with the far right activist laura loomer

00:00:31.560 this is with the guardian trump ally presented with the opposition research against a number of

00:00:35.920 officials that said she followed their disloyalty can you go a little bit lower rob to see who it was 0.93

00:00:40.260 fired six national security team the firing compass four staffers who were fired overnight after the

00:00:46.400 meeting and two who were removed over the weekend created extraordinary situation uh loomer appeared

00:00:51.580 to have more influence than the national security advisor mike waltz okay so now this is what they're

00:00:56.220 going through with communication mike waltz is creating a group chat on signal where they're

00:01:02.260 communicating about a decision that's being made and then accidentally the individual that gets added

00:01:08.520 to the chat rob is somebody from jeffrey goldberg from the atlantic from the atlantic he gets into it

00:01:15.200 accidentally he's in it some are saying you know the way that it happened it is what it is

00:01:20.220 for you guys you're out there how are you communicating yourself what apps were you using

00:01:26.120 when you're communicating what apps are being used today and maybe what different angle do you guys

00:01:31.640 have here that maybe we're not looking at

00:01:33.300 the fact that everybody in there is a human we use signal we use silent circle we had all the same thing

00:01:41.240 and people do get people have the same name and as soon as i first saw that we were on the gym

00:01:46.320 talking about them that looks like you're a normal person scrolling down on the phone and you click

00:01:50.400 one wrong name and you don't realize there's two john davises in your phone that's what it looked like

00:01:54.900 to me nobody sanity checked it and you start communicating i mean we've launched out really

00:01:59.380 detailed stuff on signal chats i mean business stuff i mean all kinds of stuff things happen i mean

00:02:04.580 there definitely been some checks and balances something needs to be sanity checking that but that's

00:02:08.700 that's real world that's what they do that's what everybody does you have a you have a group chat you

00:02:12.840 have a signal thread i'm sure you're on them too that if that thing gets leaked and the photos that

00:02:16.560 you share with your old buddies something you don't want out there it's the same thing it's just on a

00:02:20.620 huge public scale now that seems very normal to me that someone messed up a signal group chat

00:02:27.400 at that level well no you know you shouldn't have it at that level but at the end of the day

00:02:32.800 people are human they're brand new into that job they haven't done that i mean he didn't have any

00:02:38.660 experience doing that before like how many people are in that i don't know i don't think it was

00:02:43.860 malicious by any of those guys i don't most certainly don't think anybody would add a reporter into a

00:02:48.080 signal chat and start talking about business knowingly no for sure not knowingly to me it's it's more

00:02:54.400 uh you know one how it happened two do i trust signal three if a mistake like that happens that could

00:03:04.700 lead to something with the enemy finding out before we're doing something that's massively problematic

00:03:10.800 right and what should the punishments for something like this happen like if that happened in buds is

00:03:15.960 there is there a high level of not buds if that happens you're a seal you're you're on you're out

00:03:20.640 there you're talking to each other you accidentally add somebody else that gets leaked to the market one

00:03:25.100 did it ever happen and two if it does how do they handle that i can't remember time for it actually

00:03:31.520 happening like a like an actual thing you know business being leaked out to anybody nothing pre

00:03:37.720 always post yeah yeah nothing pre always post yeah nothing uh previously before something happened

00:03:44.120 but definitely after what did you guys do like when you're being added to group chat like was there

00:03:48.560 especially nowadays would they train you to say anytime you're being added to this first look at

00:03:53.260 this and look at that and look at this because like right now emails for us guy sends an email one

00:03:57.600 of our guys respond this literally happened two weeks ago that person wired a hundred thousand

00:04:01.640 dollars to somebody that was fraud this just happened we just lost a hundred we're never going

00:04:04.680 to get this hundred thousand dollars back it's happened two weeks ago why here's the email it looks

00:04:09.560 like a legit email change the password they log in boom boom boom 100k out two or three weeks ago

00:04:15.840 this happened to us right so these types of things happen and you train when you're getting an email

00:04:20.200 when somebody says this actually check the email do you guys get trained on that or no it's pure

00:04:24.800 common sense they leave it to you you get trained on it yeah you get trained on it and there's

00:04:30.140 definitely been some occurrences where uh human error or malicious will happen and then pretty quick

00:04:37.100 fix uh on the it catches fired or not fired well depending what it is you definitely get fired

00:04:43.360 so in a situation like this somebody's getting fired yeah okay something like that heads are gonna roll

00:04:48.720 so mike waltz what you're saying is mike waltz's favorite song on repeat right now is i'm only

00:04:54.780 human he's listening to that hoping he doesn't get fired but at that level he might get fired

00:05:00.320 i i'll date myself it was probably 2011 2012 it was either silent circle or signal when it was first

00:05:09.040 coming out and it was literally everybody sitting inside the team room everybody because you can't

00:05:14.180 bring your phones upstairs everybody get on stairs we're all going to download signal that's going to

00:05:17.520 be our new unclass or you know unclassed chat for the whole group so if we have to pass anything

00:05:22.380 movements you know training trips whatever we'll put it out on signal that way we get in real time

00:05:25.960 it's not just a an apple text communication these guys have android and apple all the other stuff so

00:05:30.680 yeah i mean we transitioned over to signal for a lot of the stuff but i mean yeah i mean you have

00:05:35.340 it guys making sure everybody's above board i mean there's always issues with it who owns signal

00:05:41.060 who owns the backside all that kind of stuff it's do you trust it do you guys trust it

00:05:45.900 i trust it for stuff that me and him are doing i wouldn't trust it at that level

00:05:50.500 so what do they use now at that level i'll be honest i would have thought there was some

00:05:55.460 proprietary thing that elon musk has come up with now by now or something the fact we're just

00:05:59.380 downloading something off a regular app store on that level kind of surprised me if i'm being honest

00:06:04.000 i agree with you bro i actually agree with you but i also know a bunch of guys who were

00:06:08.240 in the beltway senators congressmen that's how they normally communicate

00:06:11.800 yeah they just have you know an unclass we'll just call an unclass chat me and cole are texting

00:06:15.680 back and forth and we just do everything on signal that way it's it's secure so even you guys when

00:06:19.720 you guys don't text each other you signal on everything i mean we normally text but we all

00:06:23.060 i'd probably have 50 signal chats from trainings we do you know swat teams we're going to go train

00:06:28.640 everything's on a signal chat so out of all of them you trust signal more than some of the other

00:06:33.000 guys telegram whatsapp definitely more than whatsapp okay got it so signal's at the top for you okay

00:06:39.180 hey what's going on guys dj shipley and cole fack from gbrs group want to talk to you real quick

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Valuetainment - April 09, 2025

＂Heads Are Going to Roll＂ - Pentagon's Signal Scandal ALARMS Navy SEALs DJ Shipley & Cole Fackler

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