Valuetainment - April 11, 2025


＂He’s Not Fight Ready＂ – Ilia Topuria SHREDS Conor McGregor’s Comeback With BRUTAL Reality Check


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In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and former UFC fighter Rob Schiller. We talk about his career, his relationship with Conor, his opinion on Khabib and the future of the UFC and much more.

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00:00:00.000 If you look up, Rob, who are the top five biggest fights?
00:00:02.880 I think 5-4-5, it's all the lightweight, right?
00:00:06.340 Yeah, it is all lightweight because it's Conor Khabib.
00:00:09.200 I think it's Conor.
00:00:11.340 Conor, I think he's retired.
00:00:14.660 You think he's retired?
00:00:15.620 Yeah, I think so.
00:00:16.480 He's not going to come back.
00:00:17.660 What do you think happened to him?
00:00:18.600 You think it's the money and the success?
00:00:21.340 I think that he doesn't have the motivation anymore.
00:00:24.660 He's done great things in the sport, but he doesn't have the motivation.
00:00:30.500 He got, I think, a lot of money.
00:00:33.020 He's spending also a lot of money, so I don't know.
00:00:35.960 I don't know him personally.
00:00:37.260 I don't know him.
00:00:37.860 You guys have never met?
00:00:39.120 Never.
00:00:40.320 So there's no relationship?
00:00:41.560 No.
00:00:42.060 Because he's said some stuff about you, and you've said some stuff about him.
00:00:44.800 Yeah, but nothing good.
00:00:47.780 Yeah, nothing good.
00:00:50.820 Nothing good.
00:00:51.480 So if right now you guys were to fight, like right now, right now, let's just say in two
00:00:55.460 weeks, he gets a call, and a fight happens, you're fight ready.
00:00:58.680 You think he's fight ready to go up against you today?
00:01:01.100 Him?
00:01:01.580 Yeah.
00:01:02.040 No, I don't think so.
00:01:04.240 What he did in the last two weeks, party, drinking beers, what I did in the last two weeks.
00:01:11.500 I trained twice a day.
00:01:14.820 I don't know.
00:01:15.960 I'm an active fighter.
00:01:17.360 I defended my belt a couple of months ago.
00:01:19.900 When was the last time he fought?
00:01:22.480 He fought, I don't know, three years ago, four years ago.
00:01:26.720 He's not in shape.
00:01:28.940 Your peak, like right now, some would even say you're not even at your peak yet.
00:01:35.100 Yeah.
00:01:35.460 Because you're still getting better, right?
00:01:37.240 You're 28.
00:01:38.460 How old are you?
00:01:39.260 28.
00:01:40.000 28 years old.
00:01:40.920 So some of these guys, they peaked at 32, 33, 31.
00:01:46.100 That's the age, right?
00:01:47.360 Yeah.
00:01:47.640 You're at 28.
00:01:48.920 Your peak versus Conor's peak.
00:01:50.640 Who wins that fight?
00:01:52.160 At 155, let's just say.
00:01:53.740 My answer is going to be always me.
00:01:57.900 Every day, all day, I'm going to beat that guy.
00:02:00.420 No matter when and where.
00:02:02.580 But if you ask him, he's going to tell you probably the same.
00:02:05.880 So you know how it works.
00:02:07.900 This is a sport.
00:02:08.820 No one's going to give up.
00:02:09.800 When you were coming up, was he somebody you looked up to?
00:02:12.540 Were you like, you know, was Conor your guy?
00:02:14.960 Were you a fan of his when you were coming up as a young fighter?
00:02:17.520 Yeah, of course.
00:02:18.480 Of course.
00:02:19.260 He inspired a lot of fighters.
00:02:21.100 He changed the sport.
00:02:22.960 He did so many great things for the sport.
00:02:25.560 You can't say like anything different about that.
00:02:29.140 But he, like, little by little, he changed his values.
00:02:35.340 He changed everything.
00:02:36.720 Like, right now, what does he represent?
00:02:41.100 I always used to say, like, drugs, alcohol, bad lifestyle.
00:02:47.640 But who gives a fuck?
00:02:48.640 Do you watch closely to make sure you, like, as you're going through it, are you also watching
00:02:56.460 in very detail on the decisions you're making to see how you're living?
00:03:01.880 Because you're watching, okay, this is what this guy did right.
00:03:04.080 That's what this guy did wrong.
00:03:05.180 Are you studying everybody to see what, for yourself to be protected of?
00:03:09.080 Of course.
00:03:09.960 Of course.
00:03:10.460 I always try to develop my skills.
00:03:12.300 I always try to have more abilities.
00:03:15.540 Because at the end of the day, your skills make you rich, right?
00:03:19.700 Not the money.
00:03:20.600 Because if you don't have the skills, you don't have the right mentality, you are poor.
00:03:25.020 So I all the time try to develop my skills and my abilities.
00:03:30.480 And when going with someone like you, because I think you said one time, you said you want
00:03:35.880 to make, did you say you want to make more money than Ronaldo?
00:03:38.040 I think you said you want to make more money than Ronaldo.
00:03:39.760 I want to make more money than everyone.
00:03:44.140 Why is that?
00:03:44.920 And how are you going to do it?
00:03:48.480 Okay.
00:03:50.020 Let's switch that a little bit.
00:03:51.880 Please.
00:03:52.040 It's not like I want to be better than someone.
00:03:55.720 It's like if someone could do it, I want to do it also.
00:03:58.380 I got it.
00:03:59.060 And if no one did it, I want to be the first one to do it.
00:04:02.520 So this is the mentality.
00:04:03.660 It's not to look down to someone.
00:04:06.960 Sure, right.
00:04:07.420 It's not because of that.
00:04:08.520 It's I want to experience that also, how it feels to be the number one guy.
00:04:17.320 Why not?
00:04:18.200 Right?
00:04:18.500 You're saying pay-wise.
00:04:20.280 Yeah.
00:04:20.820 Why not?
00:04:21.080 Do you have a strategy on how you want to do it?
00:04:22.940 Have you thought about it?
00:04:24.200 Have you thought about what method you're going to have?
00:04:25.980 I looked at the pay on what you've got.
00:04:28.980 Earlier, we were talking to the guys.
00:04:31.320 And when I look at this, your first fight, I don't know if it's your first fight, but one
00:04:35.280 of your first fights that you made $38,500, October 10, 2020.
00:04:39.840 Then you made $50,000, then $75,000, then $90,000, then you made $154,000 with Bryce Mitchell,
00:04:44.500 one of your good friends.
00:04:45.240 And then you made $200,000 with Josh Emmett, then you made $532,000, fighter of the year
00:04:53.940 2024 with Volk, and then you made $2.44 million with Holloway.
00:05:00.000 So roughly career earnings, $3.5 million.
00:05:03.320 And this is a very good trajectory.
00:05:06.560 If this is a stock, there's some real good things around the corner for you, right?
00:05:10.440 Fight-wise.
00:05:11.440 It's not only fight-wise.
00:05:13.480 But it's also business-wise.
00:05:16.860 That's why I try to develop all the time my skills, you know, because at some point,
00:05:21.560 I'm going to retire, and I'm going to make a living from something else.
00:05:28.220 Got it.
00:05:28.680 How much longer do you think you'll be fighting?
00:05:30.300 You're 28 now.
00:05:31.580 Till I enjoy, to be honest.
00:05:33.280 Before, I used to be like, maybe when I'm 30 or 32.
00:05:38.700 But now, till I enjoy, I will be active.
00:05:44.300 How old was Khabib when he retired?
00:05:46.000 I think 32.
00:05:47.220 Was he 32?
00:05:48.200 32.
00:05:48.780 Yeah, you're right.
00:05:49.300 32, September 20, 1988, when he retired.
00:05:52.360 Interesting.
00:05:53.300 But right now, you're enjoying it.
00:05:55.040 You see yourself going for a few more years.
00:05:57.200 Exactly.
00:05:57.940 Okay.
00:05:58.200 I have a new motivation, new division.
00:06:01.600 I have a lot of guys there.
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