Valuetainment - June 18, 2025


"Hitler Of The Middle East" - MBS SLAMS Iran’s Khamenei Over Threat To Israel & The West


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

185.57368

Word Count

2,866

Sentence Count

241

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

In this episode, Tom and Ron talk about the Iranian leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and his vision for his country. They also discuss MBS and his plans for the future of Saudi Arabia and the Middle East.


Transcript

00:00:00.560 It's bad to the point where MBS, you think about what MBS is trying to do, right?
00:00:04.180 Saudi Arabia.
00:00:05.300 They're getting tourism.
00:00:06.760 They're getting guys like Ronaldo.
00:00:08.220 They're getting fights over there.
00:00:09.780 They're getting the live golf.
00:00:11.360 Did you hear what he had to say on 60 Minutes?
00:00:12.980 Did you see what he said on 60 Minutes?
00:00:14.200 Vinny, have you seen this?
00:00:14.960 I saw a section of it.
00:00:16.480 Watch this here.
00:00:17.100 Go ahead, Ron.
00:00:17.460 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:00:18.680 Not a rival to Saudi Arabia.
00:00:20.760 Its army is not among the top five armies in the Muslim world.
00:00:24.240 The Saudi economy is larger than the Iranian economy.
00:00:27.640 Iran is far from being equal to Saudi Arabia.
00:00:30.620 But I've seen that you called the Ayatollah Khamenei the new Hitler of the Middle East.
00:00:36.700 Absolutely.
00:00:37.920 Why?
00:00:40.160 Because he wants to expand.
00:00:41.940 He wants to create his own project in the Middle East, very much like Hitler, who wanted to expand at the time.
00:00:47.800 Many countries around the world and in Europe did not realize how dangerous Hitler was until what happened happened.
00:00:53.940 I don't want to see the same events happening in the Middle East.
00:00:56.920 Does Saudi Arabia need nuclear weapons to counter Iran?
00:01:01.720 Saudi Arabia does not want to acquire any nuclear bomb.
00:01:04.940 But without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we will follow suit as soon as possible.
00:01:10.900 Okay, so here's a question.
00:01:12.100 That is MBS from Saudi.
00:01:14.200 Here's a question.
00:01:14.640 Sounds pretty reasonable.
00:01:16.500 But here's a question I want you to think about.
00:01:18.340 Okay.
00:01:19.640 What do you think his motive is?
00:01:21.980 What do you think MBS's vision is?
00:01:23.800 To make Saudi Arabia one of the biggest, most powerful tourism...
00:01:29.660 Is that the impression you're getting?
00:01:30.780 Yeah, he loves his country and he wants...
00:01:32.520 Have you been to Saudi Arabia?
00:01:33.860 I have.
00:01:34.340 Have you been?
00:01:34.860 Yes.
00:01:35.200 Did you feel safe?
00:01:38.540 Kind of, sort of.
00:01:39.380 Where was it?
00:01:39.820 When was it?
00:01:40.320 I was in a couple of places.
00:01:42.600 What year?
00:01:43.120 What's the last time you were there?
00:01:45.080 I came here seven years ago, six years ago?
00:01:48.240 So seven, six years ago, you were in Saudi Arabia.
00:01:49.920 Okay.
00:01:50.340 Have you been to Iran?
00:01:51.860 No.
00:01:52.260 Why not?
00:01:53.580 Never crossed my mind.
00:01:55.300 If you got a comedy skit right now to go to Iran to do a show, would you go?
00:01:58.740 Right now?
00:01:59.660 Absolutely.
00:01:59.800 Two years ago?
00:02:00.880 Probably not.
00:02:01.700 Probably not.
00:02:02.060 Probably not?
00:02:02.580 Why not?
00:02:03.100 How about definitely not?
00:02:04.220 Just say I'm an American.
00:02:05.500 I'm a veteran.
00:02:07.000 But do you feel safer going to Saudi versus going to Iran?
00:02:09.380 Oh, for sure.
00:02:09.900 Okay.
00:02:10.460 So when you think about Iran, what do you think Khamenei's vision is for Iran?
00:02:15.200 What do you think their number one is?
00:02:17.520 So MBS is what?
00:02:18.920 To be like, you know, nice place to go, you know, events, sport, all this kind of stuff.
00:02:24.660 What do you think Iran's vision is?
00:02:26.420 What do you think Khamenei's vision is?
00:02:30.020 I honestly don't, like, I don't know.
00:02:31.760 Have a great country, you know, economy.
00:02:35.520 You think it's economy?
00:02:36.840 Well, I mean, what else would I leave?
00:02:38.220 Do you really believe that?
00:02:39.300 Well, what do you want?
00:02:39.880 Because let me ask you this question.
00:02:42.360 Say, for instance, if somebody wants a good economy, say you're saying you want them to have a good economy.
00:02:47.660 Yeah.
00:02:47.960 All right.
00:02:48.280 If that's your number one, what would you do for your country to have a great economy?
00:02:52.500 What would you need to do to have a great economy?
00:02:54.860 Tom, if let's just say Khamenei or the leaders of Iran want to have a great economy for their country,
00:03:00.300 what are some five things I can do to make my country better for my people?
00:03:03.920 Oh, my gosh.
00:03:05.020 You would open up trade discussions.
00:03:07.420 You'd try to get some trade treaties put on.
00:03:09.300 You would try to get invited as a guest to things like G7 and get diplomats together.
00:03:15.120 You would try to play nice with the world stage to get people to recognize you and to step it back.
00:03:21.120 Look what Saudi's doing with sports, with F1, with soccer, with live golf.
00:03:25.940 They're trying to bring people in there.
00:03:27.860 They're trying to engage the rest of the West and be an active, good participant in all that and get trade with, you know,
00:03:35.940 they've got a lot of Petro, of course, and get trade and things set up with the rest.
00:03:41.080 Iran doesn't look like it's doing any of that.
00:03:43.500 So, Tom, your impression of Iran is that's not what they're trying to do.
00:03:46.540 That's not what they're trying to do.
00:03:47.480 What do you think Iran's number one is?
00:03:49.380 The current leaders of Iran, what do you think their number one is?
00:03:51.520 I believe they're on a Islam-driven mission to destroy what they feel is their enemies.
00:04:01.320 Do you believe that, Vinny, or no?
00:04:02.740 Yeah.
00:04:03.420 You do believe that?
00:04:04.000 Yeah.
00:04:04.500 What do you think they're – and when it comes down to having relations with other countries to open up the economy
00:04:10.180 and allow other companies to go there, what do you think that ranks for Iran?
00:04:14.860 Right now?
00:04:16.360 Period.
00:04:16.860 Ever.
00:04:17.320 They've never – like in the last 46 years.
00:04:19.480 How important do you think that is to them?
00:04:20.680 I mean, I don't know.
00:04:21.500 I don't follow their –
00:04:23.060 Like number 68?
00:04:24.260 But you don't have to –
00:04:25.640 You don't have to follow it to see motives, right?
00:04:28.780 You don't have to follow it to see motives, you know, to – because when we're commenting on things like this,
00:04:35.600 if last night I had a meeting with all my insurance executives, top players.
00:04:43.020 Meeting started at noon and it finished at midnight.
00:04:45.980 Midnight?
00:04:46.400 12.30?
00:04:46.800 Yeah, we finished at midnight, yeah.
00:04:47.460 Something like that, okay?
00:04:47.960 We're at the lounge until 12 o'clock last night.
00:04:50.680 It was a room of a bunch of people that some get along, some don't get along.
00:04:55.820 Some wanted to be there, some really didn't want to be there.
00:04:58.200 It was a tough meeting that we had.
00:04:59.980 Sure was.
00:05:00.840 But you know what was the equal, what brings everybody together?
00:05:05.780 It's one question.
00:05:06.620 What is it?
00:05:07.080 What's in it for me?
00:05:09.180 What's going to happen for me?
00:05:10.520 Pride?
00:05:10.940 Some of the people are like, Pride, hey, I built this company, I want to take it to the next level.
00:05:14.060 For some people it's what's in it for me.
00:05:15.360 And what does what's in it for me do?
00:05:17.740 It gets everybody to know, okay, you're going to make money?
00:05:19.800 You're going to make money?
00:05:20.520 You're going to make money?
00:05:21.160 Okay, cool.
00:05:21.720 All right, sounds good.
00:05:22.820 Let's roll.
00:05:23.380 I trust, right?
00:05:25.040 With MBS, if you know his main motive is what?
00:05:27.840 I want to open up the economy.
00:05:29.000 I want tourists to come here.
00:05:30.080 I want people to feel safe.
00:05:31.360 I want all that stuff to be taking place.
00:05:32.840 Rob, can you pull up the map of the Middle East?
00:05:34.460 I want people to feel safe.
00:05:36.540 He has to be thinking about what do I need to do to make this entire region safer so a guy like you that's coming in is not even worried about it, right?
00:05:45.400 Look at that.
00:05:46.100 Saudi, Qatar, and who's right next to him?
00:05:49.680 Iran.
00:05:51.240 You see where Iran is right across from the water?
00:05:53.660 Boom.
00:05:54.340 So they don't want that.
00:05:59.840 Iran doesn't want an open economy.
00:06:01.920 Saudi doesn't get up and MBS doesn't get up and say, death upon America.
00:06:07.360 Screw the infidels.
00:06:08.240 They should die.
00:06:08.780 We should kill them.
00:06:10.240 That's not how they negotiate.
00:06:12.780 So, again, I'm not sitting here saying, let's go to war.
00:06:17.300 What I'm saying to you is, the Middle East would probably be a better place if a different regime was running Iran.
00:06:25.700 And if that was the case, we would be more at peace.
00:06:28.320 It doesn't mean Israel's not going to change being, what's the word, ambitious.
00:06:34.240 It doesn't mean Israel's going to change being less ambitious and wanting to get their Mossad to lower all this.
00:06:40.800 AIPAC's going to slow down.
00:06:41.940 No, they're going to keep doing their agenda.
00:06:44.200 None of that's going to slow down.
00:06:45.820 But the common denominator here is everybody on the right was happy when Hassan Soleimani, oh, my God, that's my leader.
00:06:53.000 That's my president.
00:06:54.000 He's showing strength.
00:06:55.680 But now, no, no, no.
00:06:57.840 Why?
00:06:58.460 Because there's Israel derangement syndrome.
00:07:01.580 And guess what?
00:07:03.160 You either have TDS or you have ideas.
00:07:05.760 We have one of the two.
00:07:06.960 Here's my question.
00:07:07.880 So, how does this play out to help Iranian people?
00:07:10.980 So, they're going to go in there.
00:07:12.680 They're telling everybody to get out of Tehran, where my mom and dad are from, where your whole family is, where you're from.
00:07:18.900 I want to know what is the, what's the, so kill, they're already taking out the leadership, which is a great thing.
00:07:26.120 Then you're going to take out Khomei.
00:07:27.180 I'm just curious, what is the plan?
00:07:29.960 What's the end goal?
00:07:30.800 Your question is, what's the end goal?
00:07:32.160 I love plans.
00:07:34.400 By the way, I'm not sitting here advocating for Iran or their leadership at all.
00:07:39.320 I'm just curious.
00:07:40.300 Okay, Israel is doing it.
00:07:42.220 We're going to get put into it.
00:07:44.440 What is the end game?
00:07:45.400 Now you take out Khomeini.
00:07:46.500 You take out all the nuclear stuff.
00:07:47.480 Okay, then what?
00:07:48.860 Israel is going to put somebody in?
00:07:50.120 Or are they going to have elections?
00:07:51.480 I don't know what that looks like.
00:07:53.800 That's what I'm curious for.
00:07:55.580 And again, not pro-Iran or what's happening over there.
00:08:00.580 I am just anti-United States as a veteran going to war.
00:08:05.700 That's it.
00:08:06.440 I'm simple.
00:08:07.280 Let me respond to Vinny.
00:08:08.380 I totally understand where you're coming from.
00:08:10.560 More than you actually think.
00:08:12.220 Because I think as an American, we look at what we've done over the last couple decades,
00:08:16.800 getting involved in foreign wars, and there's a lot of Americans who are just like, I'm so over this.
00:08:23.860 Afghanistan, Iraq, what we're going on out there.
00:08:26.440 But just because you're over that, it's almost like we're playing scared now.
00:08:32.480 Now we have a trillion dollar military budget.
00:08:36.560 Why are we spending so much money?
00:08:38.420 To let our machinery and defense capabilities rust?
00:08:43.520 Like we're the old Soviet Russian military?
00:08:45.960 In my opinion, a lot of you guys are playing scared and don't recognize what's actually happening in front of your eyes.
00:08:52.660 Not hypothetical.
00:08:54.080 Not playing scared.
00:08:55.460 The Iranian regime is teetering.
00:08:57.720 And at any point might be eliminated.
00:09:00.680 By the way, the Ayatollah Khomeini is 86 years old, going on to meet his martyr pretty soon.
00:09:08.040 And Israel, this little country that could, has eliminated every terror threat around them.
00:09:13.760 And they're probably looking at Iran and being like, we've taken out their air missile defense capabilities.
00:09:18.720 We've just taken down their nuclear facilities, despite people thinking they don't have nuclear capabilities.
00:09:24.260 And in Israel, to the point where Iran is now calling Qatar, Saudi, countries around the Middle East, basically saying, please help me.
00:09:33.200 We need your help against Israel.
00:09:35.460 This is the same regime that's talking tough, chanting kill, death to Israel, death to America, death to England, death to the infidels.
00:09:42.520 So, in my opinion, I totally understand why you're frustrated.
00:09:47.020 But if I could go and recreate everything we've done over the last 20 years, I wouldn't be in Afghanistan.
00:09:51.780 I wouldn't be in Iraq.
00:09:53.000 I wouldn't be in Libya.
00:09:54.160 I wouldn't be in Syria.
00:09:55.300 I wouldn't do any of this.
00:09:56.420 I would stay laser focused on the massive problem in the Middle East.
00:10:00.540 And that is the Islamic Republic of Iran, period.
00:10:03.160 If Netanyahu had a blank check to do whatever he wanted to do in the Middle East, with nobody stopping him, what do you think he would do?
00:10:15.740 So, good question.
00:10:17.280 I firmly believe that every leader that we're talking about is their country first.
00:10:22.360 So, I believe that Trump is America first.
00:10:23.980 I know, I understand.
00:10:24.880 I'll answer your question.
00:10:26.600 My question is, it's not just his people first.
00:10:30.660 If he had the opportunity to do anything unstopped and unchecked, with no balances, do you think he would want to further the Israeli border?
00:10:40.360 Do you think he would want to dominate other countries?
00:10:42.180 What do you think, if we just let him do whatever the hell he wanted to do, what do you think he would do?
00:10:45.980 Okay, and I'll put this back to you because I want to know what you think he would do.
00:10:49.140 I believe that Bibi is Israel first.
00:10:51.080 I believe that Xi is China first.
00:10:52.780 I believe that Putin is Russia first.
00:10:54.600 I believe, in a weird way, that the Ayatollah is kind of Iran first, but more Islamic revolution first.
00:11:00.660 So, the argument that Israel wants to expand its borders and, what, govern a billion Muslim Arabs as if that's what they want to do,
00:11:10.520 is, to me, so far-fetched and nonsensical that it actually doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
00:11:16.180 So, let's go there for a second.
00:11:17.940 I'm not sure what you're speculating.
00:11:19.040 I'll let you answer this.
00:11:20.100 It was just a sincere question.
00:11:21.680 Okay, are we saying, because I've heard this argument, that the Israeli aggression and the Israeli expansionism is trying to take over the Middle East?
00:11:28.560 To me, that's so stupid.
00:11:30.920 Are you trying to tell me that Israel, the size of New Jersey, is trying to...
00:11:34.460 Can we pull that map up one more time?
00:11:36.380 Please.
00:11:36.960 Are we trying to say that Israel, which is trying to defend itself, is trying to govern all of that?
00:11:44.080 What, Vinny?
00:11:44.940 To me, they can barely govern the people of Gaza and Palestine, much less Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Saudi, Qatar.
00:11:51.940 He's asking you a basic question.
00:11:52.900 Yeah, but do you remember...
00:11:54.140 I think they just want to have their own borders and stay in peace and chill.
00:11:58.940 But to assume that a small country can't do damage, did we forget what Japan did to China?
00:12:06.000 And went in there and...
00:12:06.940 Did they take over China?
00:12:07.620 Well, brother, we're throwing up babies and landing them on the knees of their rifles.
00:12:12.280 I mean, to think that just because of the country...
00:12:13.820 So, tell me your point.
00:12:14.500 I just don't...
00:12:15.740 Every time...
00:12:17.220 And again, I am not, just so you know, I am not an anti-Israel person.
00:12:22.380 I am not any of that, because I have a lot of friends.
00:12:27.080 And I see both sides.
00:12:27.960 I listen to Vinny.
00:12:29.000 Vinny has his side.
00:12:30.080 You have your side.
00:12:31.500 But when I listen to Netanyahu, it just seems like he's always wanting to instigate some shit.
00:12:36.040 It just seems that way to me.
00:12:37.140 I could be wrong, but it seems that way to me.
00:12:40.160 It's always like, for example, when they ask them, oh, you have credible threats that Trump...
00:12:44.840 They wanted to kill Trump.
00:12:46.060 Well, yeah, we have this proxy.
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