Valuetainment - September 22, 2020


How the Pandemic Exposed Leaders


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During the Pandemic, bad leaders were exposed. It showed us which leaders were for the people and which were for themselves. The pandemic also revealed the true character of the leader and how to deal with pressure situations.

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00:00:00.240 You know what most people forgot that was happening pre-pandemic?
00:00:03.060 Think about it.
00:00:04.060 February of 2020, the economy, we had 128-month economic expansion.
00:00:10.680 That's 128 months of economic expansion in America.
00:00:15.460 Everybody was making money, everything was great, people putting money in the market,
00:00:18.800 making millions.
00:00:19.800 Everybody felt great.
00:00:22.040 Then the pandemic hit.
00:00:23.040 You know what the pandemic did?
00:00:24.860 It exposed bad leadership.
00:00:26.360 Today, we're going to talk about how bad leaders were exposed during the pandemic.
00:00:35.500 So look, as leaders, you're going to go through bad times, but what made the pandemic more
00:00:39.000 challenging than others is the fact that it lasted a long time.
00:00:43.840 You know, you'll have a problem, it'll last a month, a week, a day, few hours, but not
00:00:49.820 six months, over and over and over.
00:00:54.020 And this pressure of things we've never experienced before, people are like, oh my gosh, I don't
00:00:58.960 know how to handle this stuff.
00:01:00.360 And so that lasting pressure exposed bad leaders more than ever before because they were typically
00:01:05.980 able to handle pressure for an hour, a day, or a week, or maybe even a month, but definitely
00:01:11.720 not six months.
00:01:12.720 That was one of the things that the pandemic did.
00:01:14.980 The next one is, it showed us which leaders were for the people and which leaders were
00:01:21.100 for themselves.
00:01:22.320 This doesn't matter if it's politics or business.
00:01:25.360 You knew which leaders in politics were all about themselves and which leaders in business
00:01:30.480 were all about themselves.
00:01:32.140 You kind of saw the fact that some of these leaders were for the people.
00:01:35.300 You may be working at a place and in your office you could say, let me tell you, I learned
00:01:39.400 the people I work with on a daily basis, they were for me.
00:01:41.980 I had no idea that we're going to be okay with this, that we had never done a remote leadership
00:01:45.940 type of a model before.
00:01:48.120 And they were able to get people to the way they had, I just really liked the way they
00:01:51.320 handled it with the people.
00:01:53.120 But during the pandemic, everybody learned if it was about the people or if it was about
00:01:58.000 the boss.
00:01:59.360 Everyone learned about that during the pandemic.
00:02:01.880 Next, it created a filtering process.
00:02:04.220 And what I mean by filtering process is you learned who is a peacetime leader and a wartime
00:02:12.180 leader.
00:02:13.180 It's purely a filtering process.
00:02:14.820 You never know who's tough until pressure comes.
00:02:18.920 In sports, you don't know who can handle pressure until there's two seconds left on the shot clock
00:02:24.060 and you hand the ball to a guy and Anthony Davis hits the shot with two seconds left and
00:02:29.280 he wins and a Paul George couldn't.
00:02:32.340 You don't know the difference between how pressure is handled.
00:02:35.280 It's very easily talked about, but you'll learn about it during pressure times.
00:02:40.160 It created a very simple filtering process to identify the wartime leaders versus peacetime
00:02:45.620 leaders during the pandemic.
00:02:47.300 It's very good to look good when everything is good.
00:02:49.960 It's very good to look good when the economy expands for 128 months.
00:02:53.420 It's very hard to look good when we have a pandemic for six months.
00:02:57.500 Another thing the pandemic did is it revealed the true character of the leader.
00:03:00.400 What I mean by the true character of the leader is very simple.
00:03:02.760 Look, you know, I've worked in the financial industry now nearly 20 years.
00:03:05.760 I got in it in 01, so 19 years, right?
00:03:08.900 When 07, I'll never forget November of 07, I was in California and mortgage companies started
00:03:15.880 shutting down and you saw certain people that were doing business the right way.
00:03:21.780 They were not doing business the right way, but it revealed a lot about their character
00:03:25.900 in 07, 08, and it was a rough time, man.
00:03:28.460 I mean, it was not a good time when the market hit during 07, 08.
00:03:32.340 You know, you had all these repos taking place in San Bernardino Valley.
00:03:36.120 It was not a good time, but character was revealed during those times.
00:03:40.480 The same thing happened during the pandemic.
00:03:43.800 We can, we're very good at hiding ourselves.
00:03:46.440 We're very good at acting.
00:03:48.180 Most of us would make pretty decent Hollywood actors because we act in life, right?
00:03:52.920 As if either everything is good or as if we are doing a great job and then, boom, something
00:03:58.700 hits and you realize, man, I don't know if I was as tough as I thought I was.
00:04:02.300 I didn't know if I could handle as much pressure as I could, I thought I could.
00:04:06.020 But the pandemic definitely revealed that.
00:04:07.860 Here's the other thing during the pandemic is everybody's put under the microscope.
00:04:11.740 Why?
00:04:12.740 Look, no one likes being put under the microscope.
00:04:15.180 Why?
00:04:15.680 Because with the microscope comes what?
00:04:17.480 Nitpicking.
00:04:18.480 Watch this.
00:04:19.480 Watch that.
00:04:20.480 Watch this.
00:04:21.480 And it's a lot of judgment.
00:04:22.480 Who the hell wants to be put under a microscope? 0.64
00:04:24.180 You ever looked at your skin under a microscope?
00:04:26.420 Your skin may look good on camera and then go look at it under a microscope and look, oh
00:04:29.200 my gosh, my skin is terrible under the microscope, right?
00:04:33.740 Because no one likes that kind of judgment.
00:04:35.740 Look, Ellen DeGeneres just came out this morning with her talk about what kind of a summer she 0.99
00:04:40.620 said.
00:04:41.620 It was a great summer.
00:04:42.620 Obviously being sarcastic.
00:04:43.620 Everybody's talking about, oh, toxic environment, toxic environment, toxic environment.
00:04:47.260 How come no one talked about this while she was crushing it and there was no pandemic?
00:04:51.680 Why are they all of a sudden targeting her during the worst time in America in the last couple
00:04:57.520 of decades?
00:04:58.520 Minus 9-11, right?
00:05:00.900 How come no one said anything the last 17 years?
00:05:03.520 Well, because it's bad times.
00:05:05.480 And bad times, more people have more times, people have more time to look at you under the microscope.
00:05:11.580 And unfortunately, this is not even about good leadership and bad leadership.
00:05:15.800 If you choose to be a leader and make boss-type decisions, eventually the microscope's going
00:05:20.900 to show up.
00:05:21.900 And you either have to be able to handle it and say, look, yes, my standard's never been
00:05:26.580 perfection.
00:05:27.580 My standard's been progress.
00:05:29.220 However, if you act like you're perfect forever, you're eventually going to be under so much
00:05:33.940 scrutiny and pressure that you're going to have a lot of mental and emotional breakdowns
00:05:37.640 behind closed doors that nobody knows about.
00:05:39.980 If you picture yourself as this perfect savior that everyone's been waiting for, you'll pay
00:05:45.220 a price for it emotionally.
00:05:47.160 And it'll be private.
00:05:48.160 It will not be public.
00:05:49.440 And then eventually you may get to a point that you're going to want to be private and
00:05:52.300 hide for the rest of your life and you don't want that.
00:05:54.220 Another one is it showed a different leadership style, meaning you saw people that were wanting
00:05:59.740 to go out there and talk about it.
00:06:01.180 For example, Trump wanted to go out there and talk and take every interview.
00:06:04.160 He talked about it.
00:06:05.160 Biden, you didn't really see Biden being out there talking to people.
00:06:08.660 Cuomo wanted to go out there and talk about it.
00:06:11.120 Newsom wasn't as public as Cuomo was.
00:06:13.840 Cuomo, every day you woke up, there was a New York hearing that he was doing to talk about
00:06:18.100 the problems that they had the night before.
00:06:19.880 They got bigger and bigger and bigger and people kind of learned about Cuomo.
00:06:23.820 Most people didn't know about Cuomo.
00:06:25.120 They knew about him in New York, maybe in a couple of different places with the story
00:06:28.040 of his brother and his father, but they didn't know how to handle pressure.
00:06:31.940 But you got a chance to see, you know, there was a little bit of levity with his approach
00:06:37.340 under pressure.
00:06:38.620 You know, there was a little bit of royalty with Newsom under pressure.
00:06:43.120 There was a little bit of wartime with Trump under pressure.
00:06:46.980 There was a little bit of hiding with Biden under pressure.
00:06:50.840 You kind of just saw everybody on how they were handling things under pressure.
00:06:55.620 And you saw the leadership style that you liked or didn't like.
00:06:58.500 And that was on you where you said, you know, this wasn't my policy, by the way.
00:07:02.860 But I liked the way Cuomo was handling things with pressure.
00:07:06.040 I liked it a lot.
00:07:07.560 You know, I became a fan.
00:07:08.840 I became a fan of the fact that he's sitting there coming out there and talking and people
00:07:12.360 were sitting there asking him questions.
00:07:14.180 And some of the questions was pressure questions and he didn't like them, but he did to his
00:07:17.500 best of his abilities to answer it.
00:07:19.420 But somehow, some way, the populace felt comfortable about the fact that he was being transparent
00:07:24.640 at least.
00:07:25.640 Look, when you're being asked hundreds of questions every day, you're not going to nail every single
00:07:29.180 one of them.
00:07:30.180 But at least the people know that you have the audacity to get in front of camera live.
00:07:35.020 This is not, let's pre-record and cut it properly.
00:07:37.940 Live to address these issues.
00:07:39.940 We learn about everybody on how to handle it.
00:07:42.180 That's your company.
00:07:43.180 You learn how to handle it.
00:07:44.180 Did they email you?
00:07:45.580 Did they only email communication?
00:07:48.080 Did they do a live or did they do prep videos?
00:07:51.240 Did they just sit there on a camera with you on a Zoom or a FaceTime and say, you know, with
00:07:55.040 their hundreds of leaders and say, what's on your mind?
00:07:57.960 What's concerning you?
00:07:59.080 You had the ability to make a decision on how they handle those issues.
00:08:02.880 If your company did it right and you won, well listen, you better applaud those guys at
00:08:06.720 the top that did it right.
00:08:08.120 If your company didn't, then you also paid a price for it.
00:08:11.160 Again, this is when you realize what's good leadership and what's bad leadership.
00:08:14.440 Next, handling of money and resources.
00:08:16.980 Why is this so important?
00:08:18.060 Here's why.
00:08:20.380 If 128 months you experience economic expansion, shouldn't you by the end of 128 months have
00:08:26.360 more cash than you had in 128 months?
00:08:29.700 Meaning if during the 128 months market goes up and up and up and up and up, you probably
00:08:37.160 should have more capital.
00:08:38.740 You probably should have more money.
00:08:40.280 You probably should have more cash.
00:08:41.860 How does this benefit you?
00:08:43.220 When a crisis takes place, you don't have to do 60% layoffs.
00:08:47.100 When a crisis takes place, you don't have to stop everything that you're doing on a daily
00:08:50.540 basis.
00:08:51.540 When a crisis takes place, you don't come from a place of fear.
00:08:54.660 When a crisis takes place, you don't come from a place of anxiety because you don't have
00:08:58.040 enough money to pay everybody's salary.
00:08:59.900 You're able to make more poised decisions.
00:09:03.160 This is why you saw a lot of companies who were sitting around saying, oh my gosh, we
00:09:07.640 don't have as much capital as we thought we had.
00:09:10.920 Everybody learned about the travel business.
00:09:14.560 Everybody learned about which companies had no money saved.
00:09:18.260 Everybody learned which retailers were not ready for this.
00:09:22.240 Everybody learned how money is being handled behind closed doors.
00:09:26.440 And those who handle the right, boom, they became wealthier.
00:09:29.920 Those who didn't handle the right, boom, they went out of business like this because there
00:09:34.420 was no capital during the economic expansion that took place.
00:09:38.860 Here's the other one that took place.
00:09:40.120 It created a need for off the cuff.
00:09:43.500 You kind of saw off the cuff decision making process versus research based.
00:09:46.560 What do I mean by this?
00:09:47.700 So somebody can come in and they're like, well, you know, we have a pandemic taking place.
00:09:50.760 Ah, it's not a big deal.
00:09:52.740 It's going to be fine.
00:09:53.620 This is just a bunch of this.
00:09:54.800 It's going to go away.
00:09:55.800 Okay, great.
00:09:56.800 Maybe, but what if it's not?
00:09:59.100 Are you doing any research?
00:10:00.660 Because you don't know how people are going to react.
00:10:02.480 Let's just say you're right and that's how you react.
00:10:05.460 But in an economy, it's not about how you react.
00:10:08.120 It's about how the economy is going to react.
00:10:10.060 It's about how the people are going to react.
00:10:12.040 If the people who are your customers react in a certain way and you don't do research
00:10:17.300 on the way they're going to react, you're going to pay a price for us.
00:10:19.620 I don't know if I'm making sense or not.
00:10:21.140 Let me say this one more time.
00:10:22.140 So some people are like, well, it's going to be fine.
00:10:23.960 It's not a big deal.
00:10:24.960 It's totally fine.
00:10:26.960 You may be right.
00:10:27.960 But if you react that way because you're calm, the other 95% who are your customers don't,
00:10:33.540 and you don't think about their concerns, you're going to lose them.
00:10:36.960 Because you have to think about how they're going to react, not how you're going to react.
00:10:40.960 Yes, you being calm and composed helps them, but you still have to understand how the reaction
00:10:45.760 will be.
00:10:46.760 Which means what?
00:10:47.760 The next time something like this happens, say the next crisis happens is a war.
00:10:51.180 Say we have an attack, say we have an espionage situation, say we have a bio warfare, say
00:10:56.960 we have a cyber attack that happens to America.
00:10:59.640 Say anything happens that's never happened to you before.
00:11:02.500 How are you going to handle it with the way people are going to respond to it and how much
00:11:05.700 research you're going to do?
00:11:07.020 You got to come back and do a lot of research so it's not just off the cuff without you
00:11:10.440 having no proper research.
00:11:11.440 I've been on both sides.
00:11:12.760 I made off the cuff comments that I wasn't prepared and I paid a price for it.
00:11:16.880 And I realized it's better off me going out there doing a little bit of research.
00:11:19.720 Every time I have done more research about a topic, I've made better decisions.
00:11:24.660 Every time it's been off the cuff without a lot of research, I've paid a price for it.
00:11:28.840 So the recommendation is spend some time adding the research the next time crisis takes place.
00:11:34.840 Let's continue.
00:11:35.740 It also showed how many leaders seek counsel and how many didn't.
00:11:40.200 Meaning, how many leaders went to a group of people who have been through this before
00:11:44.740 to say, how should we handle this situation here?
00:11:46.880 I've never been through this before.
00:11:48.520 What do you think?
00:11:49.520 Look, I run an insurance company myself.
00:11:51.360 We have now around 17,000 agents.
00:11:53.600 And when that took place, one of the CEOs I respect the most called me.
00:11:58.200 I respect him.
00:11:59.200 He's my mentor.
00:12:00.200 He called me.
00:12:01.200 And he says, so what do you think about the handling right now?
00:12:04.020 What are you guys doing about this?
00:12:05.020 What are you guys doing about that?
00:12:06.020 How are you guys handling this?
00:12:07.020 How are you guys handling that?
00:12:08.020 You know what it made me think about?
00:12:10.080 Here's a guy that runs a $40 billion company.
00:12:12.220 He's calling me.
00:12:13.220 So I'm sitting there saying, who are you calling, right?
00:12:15.560 And I have my list of people that I was calling to get advice.
00:12:17.860 But him and I always go back and forth.
00:12:19.580 So you sit there and you realize, man, if this guy that's running a $40 billion company,
00:12:24.500 how about the rest?
00:12:25.720 And we had a great hour and a half conversation together.
00:12:28.360 He said, how are you guys doing this?
00:12:29.780 I said, we're doing this.
00:12:30.780 What are you guys doing about this?
00:12:31.780 We're doing this.
00:12:32.780 Well, we don't know what to do about this.
00:12:33.780 How are you guys doing this?
00:12:34.780 We're doing this.
00:12:35.780 Okay.
00:12:36.780 That's what we're going to do that.
00:12:37.780 By the way, we're doing this.
00:12:38.780 If you want to take up, think about doing this.
00:12:39.780 Oh, that's a great idea.
00:12:40.780 We'll do this.
00:12:41.780 That collaboration with other people that are also going through the same issue.
00:12:44.780 You came up with better ideas on how to handle it within your own company.
00:12:49.240 Another thing that gets exposed during the pandemic was a lack of empathy.
00:12:52.420 What do I mean by lack of empathy?
00:12:54.540 Look, a lot happened.
00:12:57.340 You know, some can be fake.
00:12:58.860 Some can be real.
00:12:59.700 Some can be, you know, maybe even exaggerated.
00:13:04.780 But regardless, you'll learn whose approach was filled with empathy.
00:13:09.840 You'll learn whose approach was understanding.
00:13:12.240 You'll learn whose approach was, I understand that this is something that's concerning you.
00:13:16.340 I totally get it.
00:13:17.540 You know, here's how I see it, but I totally understand where you're coming from.
00:13:21.240 Empathy has a tendency of creating a retention model in your company.
00:13:25.240 You'll learn very quickly who is someone that leads with empathy and who doesn't.
00:13:31.120 Last point I'll make to you is the following.
00:13:32.700 The pandemic also forced you to take a stand.
00:13:34.700 A lot of people don't want to take a stand because if you take a stand, you may not like,
00:13:39.240 certain people may not like you.
00:13:41.120 When you take a stand, you may have a group of people that may be against you.
00:13:44.880 But it forced you to take a stand.
00:13:46.460 Leaders have to take a stand during the pandemic.
00:13:48.040 You can just go out there and be vanilla.
00:13:50.000 If you were vanilla, you probably lost people.
00:13:52.260 If you were vanilla, you probably lost clients.
00:13:54.360 You had to take a stand.
00:13:55.800 People had to kind of see your position.
00:13:57.260 Whether they agree or not, people respect the fact that you took a stand.
00:14:00.160 Here's where I'm at, guys.
00:14:01.160 Based on the information I have, I believe dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
00:14:04.180 And those who took a stand, they came out of it good.
00:14:06.840 Look, all of these things we're talking about, I can set the stuff out and add another 20 points
00:14:11.000 to it.
00:14:12.260 The whole moral of the story about this video is leadership is tough.
00:14:16.820 Leadership is not easy.
00:14:17.820 Leadership is emotional.
00:14:19.620 Leadership is not about perfection.
00:14:21.200 Leadership is about progress.
00:14:22.580 Leadership is about you saying, I'm going to get better.
00:14:24.780 I'm going to do my best.
00:14:25.780 I'm going to make some mistakes.
00:14:27.780 But I'm not going to try to win 100% of people, because you're not.
00:14:30.500 A leader that tries to win 100% of people, they typically don't have any real loyal followers,
00:14:35.260 because you're not going to have any of that stuff.
00:14:36.880 But also a leader who is not willing to do their best to lead every kind of people is also
00:14:43.360 not the best kind of people.
00:14:45.600 If you only know how to lead people that like you, you're not a leader.
00:14:50.360 If you only know how to lead people who think you're awesome, then you're not a great leader.
00:14:55.000 If you only know how to lead people who agree with you, then you're not a great leader.
00:14:58.840 Then you've got some work to do as a leader.
00:15:00.540 Because when I was running a small organization in a small sales office with five people, it
00:15:05.260 was very easy.
00:15:06.260 Everybody liked me.
00:15:07.260 When I went to 50, there were some people that didn't like me, and I didn't like that.
00:15:10.800 I had to learn.
00:15:11.800 But the moment I couldn't handle it, my organization shrunk.
00:15:13.800 I'm like, wait a minute, why are you trying to get everybody to like you?
00:15:16.560 Then we went to 100 people, then 500 people, then 1,000 people, and I know a lot of people
00:15:21.300 were like, oh my gosh, I don't agree with your style on how you're doing this.
00:15:25.360 I totally understand, but I'm going to try to accommodate everybody in the company, but
00:15:29.080 I'm going to stick to my style and what I take a stand on.
00:15:31.360 This is what I'm all about.
00:15:32.740 So leadership's got a lot of benefits, but it's also got some stuff.
00:15:35.800 This is why many people don't want to take leadership positions.
00:15:39.040 This is why many people say, I don't want that kind of responsibility.
00:15:42.440 I was always curious, and when I go to certain people and I say, I want to promote you to
00:15:45.200 a manager, you know how many people in my career, when I went to them to say, I want
00:15:48.320 to promote you to a manager, they said, I don't want to?
00:15:50.320 I said, what do you mean?
00:15:51.320 They said, I don't want to be a manager.
00:15:52.980 Why don't you want to be a manager?
00:15:54.500 Just let me do my job.
00:15:55.880 Why not?
00:15:57.140 Because I just don't want to be judged if I make the wrong call as a leader.
00:16:00.520 I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
00:16:02.640 But guess what?
00:16:03.640 That's okay.
00:16:04.640 Everybody wants that.
00:16:06.200 Not everybody wants to be a shot caller and be judged for the bad shots that you called.
00:16:11.320 Not everybody wants that.
00:16:13.060 But this damn pandemic, let me tell you, this pandemic definitely exposed and revealed
00:16:21.120 a lot about all of us, you and I, all of us during the pandemic.
00:16:26.140 And my hope is that during this pandemic, we all came out better, stronger in a way where
00:16:31.080 you're able to look at some of the bad mistakes you made to get better.
00:16:34.420 So the next time a crisis happens, we know how to handle it.
00:16:36.880 Because bad times are coming again, just so you know that.
00:16:39.500 We're going to have some good times, but I guarantee you there's more bad times.
00:16:42.980 And hopefully this made you a better leader.
00:16:44.640 So you know how to handle next time when this thing comes around better and better and better.
00:16:48.820 And again, if you're watching this and you're asking yourself, I want to find a way to become
00:16:52.280 a better leader.
00:16:53.280 I did a video a few months ago due to the pandemic titled wartime leadership versus peacetime leadership.
00:16:58.460 If you've not watched it, click over here to watch that video.
00:17:01.120 And if you're not subscribed to the channel, please do so.
00:17:03.280 Thanks for watching everybody.
00:17:04.280 Take care.
00:17:05.280 Bye bye.