Valuetainment - April 12, 2025


"I Like Trump" – Ilia Topuria PRAISES Trump, Questions Ukraine War & SLAMS Biden’s Leadership


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10 minutes

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177.75014

Word count

1,953

Sentence count

198

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

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Hate speech

3

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with a long time friend of mine, Rob, to talk about a wide range of topics. We talk about his views on the current events happening around the world, as well as some current events in the sports world.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 By the way, what do you think about Trump?
00:00:01.140 Have you met Trump yet?
00:00:02.360 No, no, no, no.
00:00:03.340 I like the hard personality that, the strong personality that Trump represents.
00:00:13.740 He's like, we do it this way or we don't do it.
00:00:17.240 And I like that.
00:00:19.820 I don't know.
00:00:20.740 I don't know.
00:00:21.360 He's playing his game.
00:00:23.300 Me and you, we can think whatever we want to think.
00:00:25.960 But at the end of the day, as I said, I vote for peace and I hope and I think that Trump is seeking for the peace in the world.
00:00:36.920 Even if it doesn't look like that at some point and someone, I don't know, you see a lot of crazy things in the social media.
00:00:45.620 I really think that he's doing that.
00:00:47.980 And he's looking like for the best interest for the United States.
00:00:55.760 And this is what he has to do.
00:00:57.400 That's why the people chose him as a leader.
00:01:00.640 So you like him?
00:01:01.620 Of course I like him.
00:01:03.000 You haven't met him yet?
00:01:04.120 Not yet.
00:01:04.820 You know he probably really likes the way you fight.
00:01:07.200 Yeah.
00:01:08.180 You know he's a big fan of the fight.
00:01:09.840 He watches like everything.
00:01:11.120 I know.
00:01:12.280 I never saw him in my fights because he goes sometimes like randomly.
00:01:17.480 I go to this event, this one.
00:01:19.980 We never.
00:01:21.300 At the same time?
00:01:22.080 At the same time.
00:01:22.720 Are you going to this fight or are you going this weekend?
00:01:24.620 No, I'm not.
00:01:24.900 You're not going to be there?
00:01:25.700 I'm not.
00:01:26.520 Oh, if you're in that place, it's going to be crazy.
00:01:29.120 Yeah, that's why.
00:01:30.420 That's why you're not going.
00:01:31.620 I'm not going to watch to like other sport.
00:01:37.920 I don't go.
00:01:38.860 So I enjoy mine and that's it.
00:01:42.440 Well, listen, you fight Islam, he's going to be at that fight. 1.00
00:01:47.260 I think so.
00:01:48.040 I mean, listen, of course, if he's got political different things that he's dealing with,
00:01:51.720 he's got a big job.
00:01:53.200 But I think if the two of you guys fight, he's going to tell China, he's going to tell Russia,
00:01:57.640 he's going to tell, hey, guys, we're not fighting this weekend.
00:02:00.320 No tariffs on anybody.
00:02:02.320 Everybody's good.
00:02:02.840 We're going to get along.
00:02:03.620 I'm going to a fight.
00:02:04.520 I'll come back Monday.
00:02:05.060 I want to understand some kind of things like you, Americans, people that are living
00:02:11.380 here, like what's your perception about like what's happening in Ukraine, what happened
00:02:17.520 in Georgia?
00:02:19.240 For example, I don't know if you know the story.
00:02:20.800 Like what do you think about all that?
00:02:22.460 Like, I want to know your thoughts.
00:02:25.960 Specific to what?
00:02:27.200 Specific to Georgia?
00:02:28.700 Specific to Ukraine?
00:02:29.880 Specific to the world.
00:02:31.160 Like what's your prediction?
00:02:32.840 What do you think that it's going to happen in the next five years?
00:02:35.820 So do you know like America was divided in between Ukraine and, you know, Zelensky or
00:02:42.100 not Zelensky?
00:02:42.640 Some groups were, they thought Zelensky was the greatest hero in the world and they were
00:02:47.960 fully supporting Zelensky and some people thought Zelensky was bought and people were
00:02:54.820 just giving money to him and, you know, a continuous war, not necessary.
00:03:00.260 Every time coming and saying, I need more money, I need more money, I need more money.
00:03:04.920 And so American taxpayers are sending money.
00:03:06.920 We're like, wait a minute, we're sending all this money to Ukraine, war with Russia, but 0.58
00:03:11.100 we have problems in America right now.
00:03:13.220 Why are we doing this?
00:03:14.600 So there's a big part of Americans where if support, can you type in, Rob, where the
00:03:20.400 support was for Zelensky?
00:03:21.280 So do you think it's easy like that, like how you explain it?
00:03:27.320 Zelensky was coming, knocking the door, I need money, and they were giving the money
00:03:32.360 to him.
00:03:33.600 And do you think, do you really think that it happens like that?
00:03:37.060 And they, they didn't have any interest behind, behind that money, behind that moment.
00:03:45.280 Accountability or interest?
00:03:46.840 Whatever.
00:03:47.660 I don't know.
00:03:48.280 It's like, do you really think that, let's say Biden was giving the money to, to Zelensky
00:03:54.920 like that?
00:03:56.280 I don't know.
00:03:56.800 Take this, take this, take that.
00:03:59.000 Well, whatever.
00:03:59.840 Zelensky has, Biden had interest with, with Ukraine that he got in trouble with.
00:04:06.500 And on a hot mic, when he said certain things, because they were going after his son, there
00:04:11.700 was some issues that was going on at the time.
00:04:13.620 So there are a lot of things that you see to, to see that financially, the president may
00:04:19.740 have even benefited from it, may have benefited from it on that deal with Zelensky.
00:04:24.640 And then people on the back end also probably benefited from a little bit of a war.
00:04:28.280 It turns into, you know, it's a $400 billion contract to rebuild Ukraine.
00:04:32.560 That's a lot of money.
00:04:33.620 Ilya, it's a lot of money.
00:04:35.000 So I, I think, I think this is what we see.
00:04:39.780 Then I think this is what's going on.
00:04:41.540 Yeah.
00:04:42.240 You know, and we don't see this, right.
00:04:44.600 But at the same time, um, what we learned the last eight years with the news is you can't
00:04:51.000 trust everything you see.
00:04:52.700 You have to stay skeptical and you have to question a lot of things.
00:04:57.180 And I learned one thing a long time ago, and I think this, this will make sense to you.
00:05:05.440 What's most important to in your life?
00:05:07.960 What's the top five most important things in your life?
00:05:12.820 My family.
00:05:13.720 Okay.
00:05:17.840 Let's say me, myself.
00:05:19.180 Mm-hmm.
00:05:20.800 My relationship with God.
00:05:22.500 Mm-hmm.
00:05:22.800 My spiritual world.
00:05:25.380 Uh, my job, my work, I don't know, my...
00:05:30.800 Occupation, pride, right?
00:05:32.200 Of course.
00:05:32.880 Okay.
00:05:35.080 And...
00:05:36.580 Is your pride more Georgia or is it more Spain?
00:05:39.660 Would you say you're more Georgian?
00:05:41.240 Uh, it's difficult to choose between mom and dad, you know.
00:05:44.140 Yeah, I know.
00:05:45.000 That's why I asked.
00:05:45.820 Yeah.
00:05:47.060 So, I...
00:05:47.600 So both are important to you.
00:05:48.880 Yeah.
00:05:49.080 Because you have both fans, right?
00:05:50.640 They both love you.
00:05:51.660 Okay.
00:05:53.580 But something probably, like, when, when you were a kid, how did you guys look at Russia?
00:05:59.600 In a good way?
00:06:00.460 Like, no.
00:06:00.860 Okay.
00:06:02.140 All right.
00:06:02.700 From what age?
00:06:03.840 Probably very young age.
00:06:05.200 Mm-hmm.
00:06:05.400 Since I was burned.
00:06:06.820 Who can change your mind?
00:06:09.220 Mm-hmm.
00:06:09.920 I think that it's, it's a little bit difficult to, to forgive something like that.
00:06:14.160 A lot of my family members were, uh, lost their lives in, in that world.
00:06:20.240 So, how you can forgive that?
00:06:22.380 I agree.
00:06:23.100 So, here's what I learned a long time ago.
00:06:26.040 You know how you said, what's the point of earth is flat?
00:06:29.520 Yeah.
00:06:29.740 There's no point of that argument.
00:06:31.920 There's no point here.
00:06:33.300 The reason for it is because it's personal.
00:06:36.880 Mm-hmm.
00:06:37.040 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:06:37.860 You went through the pain.
00:06:38.880 It is.
00:06:39.060 I don't know that.
00:06:40.580 Just like when I lived in Iran, I went through the pain.
00:06:43.900 And trying to explain it to somebody else, it's like, wait a minute.
00:06:47.720 What do you mean?
00:06:48.120 You don't know what I went through.
00:06:49.560 Just like what you went through.
00:06:50.900 Right?
00:06:51.760 So, you know, yeah.
00:06:55.040 As a kid, my dad was my hero.
00:06:57.180 My parents got a divorce.
00:06:58.180 My mother's family, they were communists.
00:06:59.920 I hated it.
00:07:01.400 It was always over money.
00:07:02.660 Always arguing over money.
00:07:04.420 Money caused my parents to get a divorce and politics.
00:07:08.000 I don't want to deal with politics and I'm going to make a lot of money.
00:07:11.380 So, my drive to make money was because we had nothing.
00:07:14.880 Okay.
00:07:15.740 You see what I'm saying?
00:07:16.560 Yeah.
00:07:16.740 So, now, try to convince me that communism is good.
00:07:20.420 You're never going to do it.
00:07:22.240 Of course.
00:07:23.080 Yeah.
00:07:23.680 Me either.
00:07:25.340 I know.
00:07:25.660 But to me, in a situation like this, when talking to somebody that experienced what happened in Georgia,
00:07:33.900 that's why when Patty said what he said to you.
00:07:36.400 It was personal.
00:07:37.440 Of course it was personal.
00:07:38.560 Yeah.
00:07:39.280 And that's similar to what happened with Conor and Khabib when they were fighting and some of the comments was made.
00:07:45.180 Conor was probably trying to sell the event.
00:07:48.280 But Khabib's not trying to sell the event.
00:07:50.780 I know.
00:07:52.100 I know what you mean.
00:07:53.100 Yeah.
00:07:53.340 So, to me, I understand why this is an important, sensitive topic to you and to many people.
00:07:59.860 Not just to you, to a lot of different people in the world.
00:08:02.960 But I always watch the people that, when my parents were together, I would watch an aunt.
00:08:10.360 She would come to our house when my dad was at work.
00:08:12.400 As a kid, I'll never forget this.
00:08:15.640 She would sit there and just go for three hours.
00:08:18.860 I'm a six, seven-year-old kid.
00:08:20.100 Just three hours talking bad things about my dad.
00:08:23.420 Did your husband buy you a necklace?
00:08:25.160 You know such and such, bought such and such a wife their necklace? 0.99
00:08:27.380 Why doesn't he do that for you?
00:08:29.080 Did he ever take you to dinner?
00:08:30.260 You know such and such.
00:08:30.980 Did he take you to Italy?
00:08:32.000 You know such and such.
00:08:32.840 I don't think he takes care of you.
00:08:34.500 Look how beautiful you are.
00:08:35.340 He's lucky to have somebody like you.
00:08:36.780 And I would watch this.
00:08:38.660 And then my dad would come home after working 12 hours, driving two hours to work at 8.30.
00:08:43.700 And then my mom would go and scream at him. 0.98
00:08:47.060 And you know who it was?
00:08:48.580 It wasn't my mom.
00:08:49.520 It was that lady.
00:08:50.580 Yeah.
00:08:51.060 So to me, I'm very careful with people like that.
00:08:53.960 Of course.
00:08:54.760 And it happens in wars and in politics.
00:08:56.980 So that's what I'm saying.
00:08:58.100 And when they say, hey, why don't they let him join NATO and all this other stuff, I don't know the people behind closed doors that are, hey, let me tell you.
00:09:08.000 Hey, let me tell you.
00:09:08.780 Hey, let me tell you.
00:09:10.260 You know, that's the part that at this phase of my life, I'm very careful with.
00:09:16.640 Of course.
00:09:17.780 I suck closely.
00:09:19.880 To anyone.
00:09:21.200 To anyone.
00:09:21.920 And me personally, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised with anyone.
00:09:30.860 Because sometimes you try to go to the top with the people that don't even want to see you at the top.
00:09:37.900 Mm-hmm.
00:09:38.960 Yeah.
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