Valuetainment - November 22, 2025


＂I Loved Charlie Kirk＂ - Lee Zeldin PRAISES The SURGE Of Gen Z Conservatives Across America

Topics
young conservatives
Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Charlie Kirk Donald Trump Jr. Eric Ben Kim Tuscaneiro Netanyahu Rogan Biden
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Length

9 minutes

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182.57

Word count

1,690

Sentence count

144

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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, John Bolton. John is a conservative commentator, radio host, and author. He has been a member of the conservative movement for over 30 years and is a frequent guest on conservative media outlets such as Fox News, CNN, Fox Business, and NPR. He is also a frequent contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, National Post, and National Post Magazine.

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00:00:00.000 No, I'm with you there. The question I got is, you know, 28, there's not going to be a Trump.
00:00:07.360 You know, unless if it's Eric running or Don running, which I don't know if either one of them will be running then, but maybe Eric will.
00:00:16.060 But there's not going to be a Trump, Donald Trump Jr. that's going out, Donald Trump, that he's going out there driving the way that he is.
00:00:22.940 And there is this there's this notion that, you know, you'll see the meme going around.
00:00:28.800 You know, Trump this many years, Trump this many years, then it's going to be J.D., then it's going to be this, then it's going to be that.
00:00:34.780 And we're going to have it for the next 25 years, which, by the way, there's nothing wrong with being confident and playing offense and being aggressive and assertive.
00:00:41.900 You should be. You should have that mindset that we're winners. We're going to keep winning.
00:00:45.480 And this is the winner's mindset. But, you know, the enemy is sitting there and asking themselves, say if there's not a July, you know, the assassination attempt that took place at Butler.
00:00:56.160 Because that speech he gave RNC, the energy, the way it was, it was magical.
00:01:04.420 Something happened to it. Musk came in. I'm in the day. I've never seen anything like this before. Right.
00:01:10.300 And then Rogan came in and did the podcast at the end. And then he went on all these other podcasts and did what he did.
00:01:17.000 The president, he worked his tail off to win. But say that doesn't happen.
00:01:21.700 You know, say Biden stays in. Say, you know, they mix it up. Say. So to me, 2028 is a little bit weird.
00:01:29.740 And the reason why I'm asking this concern is because even on MAGA, there is Republicans in D.C., then there's online Republicans.
00:01:36.880 Then there is MAGA, Twitter. Then there's those that are now going against it.
00:01:43.740 There is a little bit of a, you know, challenge going on with these different opinions and factions that you have politically.
00:01:51.680 And some of it has to do with Israel. You know, Israel became a very, very divisive topic.
00:02:01.460 You know, you know, you're bot, you're APAC, you're this, you're that. And then let's come out.
00:02:06.080 Yeah, those guys are APAC supporters. No, it's this. It's so that that's created a little bit of a division between them.
00:02:12.220 Netanyahu is really making a decision and they're getting bigger and bigger, louder online social.
00:02:17.360 Some of it is, you know, tempered, you know, gone a little bit lower.
00:02:20.620 But what do you foresee happening with this little civil war that's going on with the social media influencers of MAGA?
00:02:28.460 Which, by the way, they may say it's not mainstream. It's not a big deal. These are nobodies. They're just social media guys.
00:02:33.420 I don't think that's true. I think they're getting millions on top of millions of people that are paying attention to them.
00:02:39.200 And I think it's going to matter more in 28 than it did in 2024.
00:02:42.400 How do you manage that relationship to sides that are completely on the opposing side to say, guys, why don't we find a way to come together and win this thing?
00:02:50.880 How do you see that happening?
00:02:51.700 Well, I certainly think it's very important, the message towards the people who are listening and like the younger generation trying to figure things out.
00:03:00.620 I mean, I remember being 18, 20, 22, having questions on different issues that were important to me.
00:03:05.780 I didn't have the answers to everything. I didn't have it all figured out.
00:03:08.460 And if you're trying to figure it out and you are looking up to these voices with followings, maybe you're listening to different opinions and you're trying to form your own judgment.
00:03:21.200 I mean, like we need to lean into speaking to young conservatives.
00:03:25.140 There are a whole lot of of that younger generation who like they're very interested in the government.
00:03:32.660 They care about the country. They care about service. They're they're raised with with great values.
00:03:39.200 They want to participate in the process. They're proud of being conservatives, but they don't have all figured out yet.
00:03:45.640 And we should no one should expect them to have it figured out.
00:03:49.620 We need to be speaking to them. And it's not there isn't just any one way to get to this audience.
00:03:57.260 Like I remember not that long ago. I mean, dating us like I had a 13 inch TV that had a knob of, you know, 13 channels.
00:04:07.840 And like with the the antenna above my black and white TV, you try to maybe get reception for like seven or eight of them.
00:04:15.640 I remember when all of a sudden there was a 24 hour news cycle. That was crazy.
00:04:19.520 Like every day the news would change. There's a seven hour news cycle.
00:04:23.000 Now we'll spend this time together while we're sitting here. There'll be all sorts of different news that's popping.
00:04:29.060 And and with social media and with podcasts and with people who I guess, you know, they go to cable news.
00:04:36.800 They go to radio. They go to to newspapers like it's it's so diluted, though.
00:04:42.060 And podcasts are rising and social media platforms have amazing reach.
00:04:49.300 It's important to be meeting this audience everywhere, meeting them where they are.
00:04:54.860 You know, like there was a time like first got into politics. I mean, I ran for Congress in 2008.
00:04:59.320 You do you do a poll like where do you get your news from?
00:05:02.100 And it was a multiple choice question. And I would have to go back and look at the poll.
00:05:05.700 I'm pretty sure I didn't say podcasts. You know, Twitter wasn't a thing back then.
00:05:11.980 It's very important for us to be getting into all of those mediums and to have those conversations.
00:05:19.120 This is one thing I love about Charlie Kirk. Charlie would show up at these universities and he's dear friend.
00:05:25.980 And it's maddening that he is not with us right now.
00:05:29.120 That he would go to these university campuses and encourage people to come up.
00:05:35.940 If you agree with him on 19 topics out of 20, he would want you to come up on the one topic you don't agree on.
00:05:42.540 This is actually the guy who spoke just before he was assassinated was somebody who agrees with Charlie on like everything except religion.
00:05:52.040 Apparently, I was watching some interview and he wanted to then approach Charlie on religion and engage Charlie Kirk was meeting these young conservatives where they were at on their college campuses, on podcasts, on on radio, TV, on on social media.
00:06:11.360 We really need to do a better job of that between now and 2028 and answer these questions.
00:06:18.400 Because what happens is if you leave the vacuum, then some of these voices with the wrong answers only and they might do it with an incredible amount of they might be filled with charisma.
00:06:32.100 They might have a sense of humor. They might be young as well.
00:06:35.480 And if they're the only voice answering the question and they're they're making enough sense, then they're moving people towards thinking, all right, well, maybe that wrong thing is actually the right answer.
00:06:49.160 And then they end up adopting it as their own.
00:06:51.500 So I think that's the biggest thing between now and 2028.
00:06:53.820 There there are many places that you're not going to find conservative leaders and voices, people who do have the right answers on these questions, these young conservatives have.
00:07:03.100 But there's this disconnect. And those those those sound voices in the movement have not yet made it to to that young 18 year old.
00:07:12.840 Or maybe it's a 15 year old right now who will be registered to vote by 28.
00:07:16.700 Yeah, I agree. I think I think you got to talk to them.
00:07:20.480 I think you got to be aware of them. And I think you got to if you if you sit there and think these guys are not going to be formidable, they're just getting bigger.
00:07:27.060 I don't think they're going to get any smaller. I think the momentum is here.
00:07:29.380 And I think 2028, 2032, 2036, some of them are going to be on the ballot competing against others.
00:07:37.640 We're playing a very different game. Politics is a sport today.
00:07:40.640 It's always been a sport, but it's a contact sport like never before.
00:07:44.860 And it's getting interest of younger kids that once were never entered.
00:07:48.220 Like, why would I care about this? I was like, wait a minute. Do you see the competition?
00:07:51.080 I want to be able to out debate this person. So there's a certain level of excitement with it.
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