00:00:00.000No, I'm with you there. The question I got is, you know, 28, there's not going to be a Trump.
00:00:07.360You know, unless if it's Eric running or Don running, which I don't know if either one of them will be running then, but maybe Eric will.
00:00:16.060But there's not going to be a Trump, Donald Trump Jr. that's going out, Donald Trump, that he's going out there driving the way that he is.
00:00:22.940And there is this there's this notion that, you know, you'll see the meme going around.
00:00:28.800You know, Trump this many years, Trump this many years, then it's going to be J.D., then it's going to be this, then it's going to be that.
00:00:34.780And we're going to have it for the next 25 years, which, by the way, there's nothing wrong with being confident and playing offense and being aggressive and assertive.
00:00:41.900You should be. You should have that mindset that we're winners. We're going to keep winning.
00:00:45.480And this is the winner's mindset. But, you know, the enemy is sitting there and asking themselves, say if there's not a July, you know, the assassination attempt that took place at Butler.
00:00:56.160Because that speech he gave RNC, the energy, the way it was, it was magical.
00:01:04.420Something happened to it. Musk came in. I'm in the day. I've never seen anything like this before. Right.
00:01:10.300And then Rogan came in and did the podcast at the end. And then he went on all these other podcasts and did what he did.
00:01:17.000The president, he worked his tail off to win. But say that doesn't happen.
00:01:21.700You know, say Biden stays in. Say, you know, they mix it up. Say. So to me, 2028 is a little bit weird.
00:01:29.740And the reason why I'm asking this concern is because even on MAGA, there is Republicans in D.C., then there's online Republicans.
00:01:36.880Then there is MAGA, Twitter. Then there's those that are now going against it.
00:01:43.740There is a little bit of a, you know, challenge going on with these different opinions and factions that you have politically.
00:01:51.680And some of it has to do with Israel. You know, Israel became a very, very divisive topic.
00:02:01.460You know, you know, you're bot, you're APAC, you're this, you're that. And then let's come out.
00:02:06.080Yeah, those guys are APAC supporters. No, it's this. It's so that that's created a little bit of a division between them.
00:02:12.220Netanyahu is really making a decision and they're getting bigger and bigger, louder online social.
00:02:17.360Some of it is, you know, tempered, you know, gone a little bit lower.
00:02:20.620But what do you foresee happening with this little civil war that's going on with the social media influencers of MAGA?
00:02:28.460Which, by the way, they may say it's not mainstream. It's not a big deal. These are nobodies. They're just social media guys.
00:02:33.420I don't think that's true. I think they're getting millions on top of millions of people that are paying attention to them.
00:02:39.200And I think it's going to matter more in 28 than it did in 2024.
00:02:42.400How do you manage that relationship to sides that are completely on the opposing side to say, guys, why don't we find a way to come together and win this thing?
00:02:51.700Well, I certainly think it's very important, the message towards the people who are listening and like the younger generation trying to figure things out.
00:03:00.620I mean, I remember being 18, 20, 22, having questions on different issues that were important to me.
00:03:05.780I didn't have the answers to everything. I didn't have it all figured out.
00:03:08.460And if you're trying to figure it out and you are looking up to these voices with followings, maybe you're listening to different opinions and you're trying to form your own judgment.
00:03:21.200I mean, like we need to lean into speaking to young conservatives.
00:03:25.140There are a whole lot of of that younger generation who like they're very interested in the government.
00:03:32.660They care about the country. They care about service. They're they're raised with with great values.
00:03:39.200They want to participate in the process. They're proud of being conservatives, but they don't have all figured out yet.
00:03:45.640And we should no one should expect them to have it figured out.
00:03:49.620We need to be speaking to them. And it's not there isn't just any one way to get to this audience.
00:03:57.260Like I remember not that long ago. I mean, dating us like I had a 13 inch TV that had a knob of, you know, 13 channels.
00:04:07.840And like with the the antenna above my black and white TV, you try to maybe get reception for like seven or eight of them.
00:04:15.640I remember when all of a sudden there was a 24 hour news cycle. That was crazy.
00:04:19.520Like every day the news would change. There's a seven hour news cycle.
00:04:23.000Now we'll spend this time together while we're sitting here. There'll be all sorts of different news that's popping.
00:04:29.060And and with social media and with podcasts and with people who I guess, you know, they go to cable news.
00:04:36.800They go to radio. They go to to newspapers like it's it's so diluted, though.
00:04:42.060And podcasts are rising and social media platforms have amazing reach.
00:04:49.300It's important to be meeting this audience everywhere, meeting them where they are.
00:04:54.860You know, like there was a time like first got into politics. I mean, I ran for Congress in 2008.
00:04:59.320You do you do a poll like where do you get your news from?
00:05:02.100And it was a multiple choice question. And I would have to go back and look at the poll.
00:05:05.700I'm pretty sure I didn't say podcasts. You know, Twitter wasn't a thing back then.
00:05:11.980It's very important for us to be getting into all of those mediums and to have those conversations.
00:05:19.120This is one thing I love about Charlie Kirk. Charlie would show up at these universities and he's dear friend.
00:05:25.980And it's maddening that he is not with us right now.
00:05:29.120That he would go to these university campuses and encourage people to come up.
00:05:35.940If you agree with him on 19 topics out of 20, he would want you to come up on the one topic you don't agree on.
00:05:42.540This is actually the guy who spoke just before he was assassinated was somebody who agrees with Charlie on like everything except religion.
00:05:52.040Apparently, I was watching some interview and he wanted to then approach Charlie on religion and engage Charlie Kirk was meeting these young conservatives where they were at on their college campuses, on podcasts, on on radio, TV, on on social media.
00:06:11.360We really need to do a better job of that between now and 2028 and answer these questions.
00:06:18.400Because what happens is if you leave the vacuum, then some of these voices with the wrong answers only and they might do it with an incredible amount of they might be filled with charisma.
00:06:32.100They might have a sense of humor. They might be young as well.
00:06:35.480And if they're the only voice answering the question and they're they're making enough sense, then they're moving people towards thinking, all right, well, maybe that wrong thing is actually the right answer.
00:06:49.160And then they end up adopting it as their own.
00:06:51.500So I think that's the biggest thing between now and 2028.
00:06:53.820There there are many places that you're not going to find conservative leaders and voices, people who do have the right answers on these questions, these young conservatives have.
00:07:03.100But there's this disconnect. And those those those sound voices in the movement have not yet made it to to that young 18 year old.
00:07:12.840Or maybe it's a 15 year old right now who will be registered to vote by 28.
00:07:16.700Yeah, I agree. I think I think you got to talk to them.
00:07:20.480I think you got to be aware of them. And I think you got to if you if you sit there and think these guys are not going to be formidable, they're just getting bigger.
00:07:27.060I don't think they're going to get any smaller. I think the momentum is here.
00:07:29.380And I think 2028, 2032, 2036, some of them are going to be on the ballot competing against others.
00:07:37.640We're playing a very different game. Politics is a sport today.
00:07:40.640It's always been a sport, but it's a contact sport like never before.
00:07:44.860And it's getting interest of younger kids that once were never entered.
00:07:48.220Like, why would I care about this? I was like, wait a minute. Do you see the competition?
00:07:51.080I want to be able to out debate this person. So there's a certain level of excitement with it.
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