Valuetainment - January 30, 2026


＂I Still Love Trump＂ - Michael Cohen OPENS UP About Being Abandoned, Erased & Left to Take The Fall


Episode Stats

Length

7 minutes

Words per Minute

160.79823

Word Count

1,163

Sentence Count

113


Summary

Former White House lawyer Michael Cohen joins Jemele to discuss his time working for Donald Trump and how he was thrown under the bus by the President. He also discusses why he left the White House and why he thinks Trump should be fired.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What part of his relationship with you, the 50,000 hours, do you miss the most?
00:00:03.820 All of it.
00:00:04.720 You miss all of it?
00:00:05.420 All of it.
00:00:06.440 So I see your expression.
00:00:08.660 Same expression Todd Blanche had when I was on trial, sitting in that witness box.
00:00:15.020 He said, you hate Donald Trump, don't you?
00:00:17.200 I said, no, sir.
00:00:18.880 So he goes, what do you mean?
00:00:20.980 I said, in fact, I love the guy.
00:00:23.000 So he goes-
00:00:23.320 Loved or love?
00:00:24.560 Love.
00:00:25.320 I still love-
00:00:25.920 Present.
00:00:26.460 Present.
00:00:26.780 Present.
00:00:26.840 And I'm still insanely angry with him for allowing others to interfere with the relationship.
00:00:36.380 And I don't care.
00:00:37.220 Look, we all know one thing about Trump.
00:00:39.800 He will never apologize, even when he knows he made a mistake.
00:00:43.800 He will not.
00:00:44.680 It's just not in his nature.
00:00:46.120 Some people can.
00:00:46.840 Some people can't.
00:00:47.720 He cannot.
00:00:48.760 But I know in his heart of hearts, he knows he made the mistake on allowing them to convince
00:00:54.480 him to abandon me.
00:00:55.940 You use the mob experience as sort of a way of, he's the boss, call me a capo, right?
00:01:05.800 I'm a maid guy in, we'll call it Trump land.
00:01:09.880 When there's an issue, when does the mob boss throw his capo under the bus listening to
00:01:20.620 some foot soldier?
00:01:22.020 It never happens.
00:01:23.660 You're supposed to, smartly.
00:01:26.240 You wrap your arms around the guy and you protect him.
00:01:29.100 Don't abandon me.
00:01:30.460 They didn't just abandon me in a conversational manner.
00:01:34.640 I was handling legal matters for him that ultimately resulted in the FBI raiding my home hotel and law office.
00:01:43.820 And that's because they wanted to get him.
00:01:46.700 I despise James Comey.
00:01:48.620 I've always said I despise James Comey.
00:01:50.580 I know that Comey ended up getting from John McCain the Steele dossier.
00:01:55.560 Then it went to, I think, Andrew Weissman.
00:01:57.140 From Weissman it went to Jeffrey Berman who recused himself.
00:01:59.980 Then to another guy by the name of Robert Kazami.
00:02:03.120 I mean, all for what?
00:02:05.240 In order to get him.
00:02:06.220 And that is just true.
00:02:09.500 And I hope it's apparent to everybody.
00:02:11.500 I don't care if you're far left or far right.
00:02:13.280 That is and should be apparent to everyone.
00:02:16.040 So give me the exact timeline.
00:02:18.260 What month was it when you say, you know, he made the wrong decision.
00:02:22.200 He sided with them instead of me.
00:02:24.160 What was the timeline exact?
00:02:25.980 I was in the process of going through all of the documents on a review to ensure protection for him in terms of attorney-client privilege.
00:02:37.480 We were doing a document review.
00:02:39.320 He's in already.
00:02:40.780 Oh, he's in already.
00:02:42.120 He's president.
00:02:42.820 Give me a month-ish.
00:02:43.900 It's 17?
00:02:45.020 It's 28.
00:02:45.680 It's 2017.
00:02:47.700 No, yes, it's 2018.
00:02:51.560 So end of 17, early 18-ish.
00:02:54.420 Something like that.
00:02:54.980 Okay, continue.
00:02:55.660 So you're going through that.
00:02:56.960 We're going through that.
00:02:58.360 And all of a sudden, my lawyer turns around and says, can you please reach out to Trump Org?
00:03:08.760 We haven't gotten paid.
00:03:11.420 We've got to pay some.
00:03:12.860 They held back on the next one.
00:03:14.500 They didn't pay the third bill.
00:03:15.960 Now it's a fourth bill.
00:03:17.540 We can't continue to represent you.
00:03:20.680 I'm saying, wait, wait.
00:03:22.280 You're joking, right?
00:03:23.400 So not only did they push me under the bus, but now something that I should be protected under, which is executives and officers insurance, they're not even willing to pay that.
00:03:36.140 Why?
00:03:36.660 What the hell did I do to deserve to be ignored, abused, neglected, thrown away, discarded?
00:03:46.500 What did I do so bad?
00:03:49.000 And then I turned around and I realized during a interview that they were doing with Trump, he turned around and they asked him, it was right after the raid.
00:04:01.900 He goes, it's disgusting that they raided one of my attorneys.
00:04:05.720 Now, all of a sudden, I lost my name?
00:04:09.640 Remember, I know the man better than any human being should know another.
00:04:14.220 That's the first sign that you're out.
00:04:16.900 You knew that.
00:04:17.920 Yes.
00:04:18.680 It was that comment that really made me pause and say, wait, wait.
00:04:24.200 Now, I don't have a name?
00:04:26.940 What happened to Michael?
00:04:28.200 Oh, every morning, 4.30, 5 in the morning, for over a decade, every morning at 5 a.m. and every night.
00:04:35.140 The man doesn't sleep.
00:04:36.320 By the way, neither do I, which is what made us even closer.
00:04:39.700 Every single morning, 4.30 to 5, phone call.
00:04:43.260 Every night, 11.30, give or take, a phone call.
00:04:46.420 First in the morning, last before he goes to bed.
00:04:49.780 And now, all of a sudden, Michael Cohen doesn't exist?
00:04:52.720 Tell me why.
00:04:53.440 What did I do so deservant, so bad, that I deserve to be not just thrown under the bus,
00:05:02.340 but how about run over, not once, not twice, but a half a dozen times?
00:05:07.980 And I was like, okay.
00:05:11.220 Okay, I guess I am on my own.
00:05:14.100 So what's your next move when that happens?
00:05:15.880 Because I got a bunch of follow-up questions, but I want to know what you do exactly after that.
00:05:19.520 You see this, you know what the signs are.
00:05:21.420 Where you're like, I don't think I'm on the inner circle anymore.
00:05:24.460 I'm on the outer, if not the ousted, like I'm about to be ousted.
00:05:27.860 What's your next move?
00:05:29.120 I just continue.
00:05:30.620 I had no moves.
00:05:32.820 It wasn't as if I didn't call him.
00:05:33.880 Did you approach him?
00:05:34.800 Did you talk to him about it?
00:05:36.640 Did you see the calls declining in a major way?
00:05:38.960 I was told by people like Jay Sekulow,
00:05:43.940 oh, don't worry, I'm speaking to the boss.
00:05:45.960 I'm speaking to the boss.
00:05:47.580 You know, everything's going to be fine.
00:05:49.060 So, ultimately, I realized that Sekulow is lying to me.
00:05:56.440 They then tried to send in this scumbag, Bob Costello, a lawyer who was with Rudy Giuliani.
00:06:03.980 They tried to infiltrate the defense where he wanted to come in.
00:06:09.200 It's really a terrible, terrible, this, by the way, would be probably an Oscar-winning movie
00:06:16.520 because it's so outlandish.
00:06:19.580 It's so ridiculous.
00:06:21.160 Nobody would possibly believe that this is true.
00:06:24.540 They would think that this is some sort of a made-up plot by some really dystopian writer.
00:06:31.720 Why in the world would you do it to me, somebody who would legitimately have taken a bullet for you
00:06:40.280 except under one condition, if he's the one pulling the trigger?
00:06:44.940 I couldn't do it.
00:06:46.600 It was the ultimate betrayal.
00:06:48.480 It was like being betrayed by a brother.
00:06:50.880 Hey, Michael Cohen here.
00:06:52.080 Look, you all know who I am, Donald Trump's former personal attorney and fixer.
00:06:56.040 A lot of things have taken place over the years.
00:06:58.320 A lot of questions need to be answered.
00:07:00.100 Well, you may have a lot of questions, so do me a favor.
00:07:03.820 Anytime you want to ask me a question, feel free to reach out to me on the next.
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