“I Will F#cking Kill You” - Epstein Friend Les Wexner THREATENED By His Lawyer
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the Epstein case and why he should never have been allowed to speak to the press. We also talk about why a lawyer should never be allowed to question a witness in a grand jury hearing.
Transcript
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Lex Wexner, am I saying the name correctly, Rob, or no?
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So this is the guy that gave the largest Manhattan private residence $54,000,
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Here he's being talked about, you know, what's going on with Epstein.
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And one thing we know, his parents should have told him when he was a kid,
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I'm going to effing kill you if you answer one more question with more than five words.
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But if he's telling the truth, he doesn't have anything to worry about.
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Don't talk to – you know, that's what you're telling.
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But if you're innocent, go – if I'm your lawyer, go.
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I mean, we've been through processes when – I had one time we're selling one of our companies,
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He says, Pat, you can't say what you just said.
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So I get the part that the lawyer is supposed to do this.
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Well, what's going on right here, this is really sensitive.
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Wexman, Epstein, everything that's going on, and you have these hearings.
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Your lawyer sits down with you and says, okay, how are we going to handle this?
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Whatever is his excuse or his reason or his explanation, whatever word you want to use,
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So you decide what Les' testimony is going to be, and you have a legal strategy.
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Because the lawyer knows what he's going to do next.
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And the more words you give them, the more they can pick on.
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That's why typically when you're being deposed, you say yes, no, date, whatever it is.
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Because the more you gave them, no, I was just by myself in my office with my staff.
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So the lawyer is sitting there and saying something that, just like the banker said to you,
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just like I on board calls, not with Pat, but at board calls earlier in my career,
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I put phones on mute, and I leaned over to CEOs and says, you can't do that.
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That's an incorrect answer, or that's not the strategy.
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And I have not authority over that CEO, just like the lawyer doesn't have authority over the witness here.
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And he admitted that since 1980, Epstein was advising Elder Rothschild and the Rothschild family about finances since the 80s.
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And I am not defending Wexner that has a pile of very circumstantial evidence against him right now
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and a pile of flight logs and a lot of other things.
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I'm just speaking to why would a lawyer be leaning over and being that animated or say something like that,
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Look, I think the Epstein thing is disgraceful.
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I think everyone involved has a special place in hell that awaits them.
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But one of the things I wonder very much is why are we focused on this now?
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I mean, we're talking with Wexner about stuff that happened 20 years ago.
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When Democrats were in charge in 2021, when they had the presidency, the House and the Senate,
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In 2022, why were they not investigating it then?
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In 2023, why were they not investigating it then?
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In 2024, what I really want to know, what I really want to know is what magically happened in 2025 that made them all interested.
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I know the answer to that is the election of Donald J. Trump.
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But the other thing I think we need to be looking at is the largest child abuse scandal in the history of the world,
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as horrible as it was, is not the Epstein files.
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It was Joe Biden letting 300,000 unaccompanied minors come in in this country, and they all got lost.
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And thousands and thousands and thousands of those children have been used in horrible ways.
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I mean, what all of these people who hung out with this guy, particularly after he was convicted of being a sex trafficker in Florida.
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You know, it's one thing that we probably all have friends that we ultimately learned something about.
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We're like, oh, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
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But after the guy got convicted of messing around with kids, that's not someone you should want to hang around with.
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And so that's really the behavior I think we should look at.
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But what this guy claims is once he knew about that stuff, he had nothing to do with it.
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Let me read some of this, and then Adam, I'll come to you.
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Wexner calls final email to Epstein, a middle finger, four days before he pleaded guilty in Florida in 2008,
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to soliciting sex with someone younger than 18 years old.
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When asked in the deposition about the email, Wexner said he didn't know what prompted him to write,
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except that he was angry with Epstein over the financier's action.
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I think it was just me giving him the finger, Wexner said.
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He didn't have any further communication with Epstein after the exchange.
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When asked about this, his note to Epstein in a latter infamous birthday book, which he signed your friend,
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It was said it was the kind, friendly closing he would have used for anyone, regardless of whether he was a friend or not.
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I think if I was sending a birthday note to somebody, I'd say your friend or something, I wouldn't just sign my name.
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It would be like yours truly, best, something like that.
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And then he addressed the accusations of Maria Farmer.
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Wexner fielded several questions about Maria Farmer, who accused Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell of sexually assaulting her during the 1996 summer in New Albany.
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Farmer alleged that after the assault, Wexner's security staff held her at the property until her father could pick her up.
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A lawsuit filed by Farmer said Epstein's Ohio property was or near Wexner's New Albany estate.
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During the testimony, Wexner said Epstein stayed at a nearby house owned by Jack Kessler, co-founder of New Albany Company.
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Wexner told the committee that he didn't know shit about Farmer.
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There's a bunch of stuff that goes into this conversation here, including one of them being about Prince Andrew called to offer an airplane sale.
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Because, by the way, while I'm going through this, Prince Andrew, first person in the royal family to get arrested in 400 years.
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He's not even the—he's just Andrew right now.
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It's the family and friends event at Shopper's Drug Mart.
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Get 20% off almost all regular-priced merchandise.
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To see it and to see what's going on with his brother, who's obviously coming to our country
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It's really interesting because nobody used to speak about Epstein when he was alive, but
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But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated.
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He was fighting me in the election, which I just found out through the last three million
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Well, here's the part that nobody's talking about.
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It's systemic, this problem with these young women that are showing up.
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So if you know anything about the modeling industry, and I've interviewed how many hundreds,
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if not thousands of models, the industry starts with 15 and 16-year-old girls who get
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signed to a major agency, and then they're walking on runways, and then they're a part
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So we want to go, you know, the noise is, what's going on on Epstein Island?
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How are all these women, how are these 16, 17-year-old women even in this world?
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It's because they start out as models at such a young age, 16 years old.
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By the way, side note, 35 states in America, the age of consent is 16, not 18.
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This was the summer, and my friends throw these events, you know, model volleyball, we've
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All the most gorgeous women in the world, yada, yada, yada.
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The main girl, who's like the last person to go on stage, she does this big hurrah, everyone
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I go, like, literally, why is your daughter doing that?
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There's this one girl who's like the supermodel.
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She goes, no, this is what you have to do to get started in this world.
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Les Wexner is the breeding ground for young women that want to be in Victoria's Secret.
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Of course, he's clearly into young, underage women.
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Most of the stories you hear, the girls are between 16 and 20.
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I'm sure that you might have heard a story about younger women, but the majority are this age.
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So the bigger question is this, why are we having 16, 17, 18-year-old women involved with grown-ass men?
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So if we want to stop these Epstein things from happening, it needs to start in 18 years and older and stop this 16 nonsense.
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I'm going to get to Adam's point, but to piggyback off what Randy said, you make a great point.
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Tom Holman was just in Minnesota, and they found 3,362 missing kids from the border.
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Here, no headline, just missing kids in all these places in Minnesota, and they withdrew 700 ice ages, which I'm totally against.
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Also in this deposition, Jasmine Crockett was trying to get a got you moment about Trump.
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She asked him, I want to say five or eight rapid-fire questions about Trump, and he goes, no, he wasn't there.
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And to go to your point, Adam, what we're just, what's revealing, because guess what?
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These people thought they were going to get away with it because they're at the tippity-tippity top.
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It's a global, elite, demonic, I'm going to say that word again, demonic organization that, Adam, you nailed it.
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Who, once you're that pedophile, sick, disgusting person, and you're on an island, who's going to sit there and be like, okay, no, no.
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No, they like these young, underage, Adam, they love, they feed off the, destroying the innocence of these children.
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So I'm, who knows how old, because I keep seeing videos of Andrew, Andrew with the little kid yesterday, with the ball that has a nipple on it.
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Like, Alejandro Mayorkas was like, the border's closed.
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That border, for how many years, it was a turnstile for votes, illegals, and children to get trafficked all around the freaking world.
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And they don't want to talk about it because Donald Trump didn't do it.
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And who's the group that has coined the phrase maps?
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Meanwhile, pretty much everybody that was on the island is on the left of center.
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So they're using this as an issue to try to bring down Trump, especially in the midterms.
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And there's a bunch of – there was an actual – another one as well, Pat.
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And mind you, there's 3 million that we can't see.
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And my question is – Pat, I wanted to ask you.
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Andrew getting – my opinion, Andrew getting arrested increases the pressure on U.S. having to arrest by a mile.
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The first country that arrested somebody is not U.S.?
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And this guy is from U.S. and U.K. had the balls to arrest somebody from their family, which is absolutely humiliating.
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But America is not willing to arrest a billionaire?
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That is a very bad look for America, just so you know that.
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You know, when in a family, somebody gets a four-year degree, now what is every grandma and uncle and aunt going to say?
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Hey, Vinny, when are you getting your four-year degree?
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Hey, Randy, when are you going to – hey, so first person makes six figures.
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Hey, so when are you going to make – first person buys a house.
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Cousin, hey, when are you going to buy a house?
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So when are you going to get – first person has a kid.
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So I don't know who that's going to be, but do not be surprised if in the next two weeks, four weeks, six weeks,
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if somebody in the U.S. also goes through this.
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So I believe this is political theater in the U.K.
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Keir Starmer just got accused of hiring or having someone in his cabinet that was – with Epstein.
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Can we talk about the U.K. rape gangs that have been raping and pillaging your own citizens for decades?
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Shout out to Tommy Robinson for basically peeling the mask off what they've been covering up in their own country.
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So if they've done nothing about that, if they just sit there silent and be like, oh, you know, let them in.
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They're pulling the mask off Andrew to make him escape.
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But until they start doing that about the U.K. rape gangs, this is political theater.
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This is the person that they're basically saying, you're no longer family.
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What did you not do as a father for your kid to do what he just did?
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What did you do as a father that the rest of us don't know that your son did something like this?
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Whether these questions are fair or not, these are questions that are going to be asked.
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There's a difference between being arrested, being charged with something, being convicted of something.
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Until they charge him something and convict him of something, this seems like political theater to me.
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Adam, just to, because Adam, I swear to you I had this on there.
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Just to piggyback off of you, the British Parliament voted last week massively against the investigation of the child Pakistani rape gangs.
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Opponents of the inquiry argued that reopening the issue would damage the image of Muslim communities and clash with prevailing left-wing political priorities.
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We're not going to go after them because it's going to make Muslims look bad, which is horrible.
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God forbid that we tarnish the image of rapists.
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Does Andrew actually, Pat, do any, meaning behind bars for being with underage girls?
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Does he actually, because an arrest is an arrest.
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Because at the end of the day, Pat, these people need to be behind bars.
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However, whatever their statutes are over there, that's the only way.
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You gave your wife an STD, allegedly, and slipped her drugs and all.
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But the pandemic emails, the what are we going to do with this?
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I think the part about the rape gangs in UK, I think that pressure of going the way they're going,
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I think something could happen next three years because what speech did Rubio give at Munich?
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If you actually read into the speech, he is talking about the rape gangs.
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He's talking about what's going on in UK in his speech, right?
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But this, to me, if all of a sudden, story comes out, Bill Gates is getting arrested, what do you think that story does?
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Hey, you want to invite me to talk about my ex-husband?
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What do you think the chances, someone like Bill Gates gets arrested?
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Look, we're currently going through three different lawsuits.
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Some issues that we dealt with with the company.
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Every one of them is a certain behavior that they shouldn't have done.
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In the last 20 years, I've sued in my entire life five people.
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I've been sued a lot because, hey, Vinny says something on the podcast.
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That part, as you get bigger, it's part of the territory.
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But if you don't make an example and everybody else thinks they can do it,
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now you're the guy that's going to be a target.
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I think they have to choose who they're going to make an example of.
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And don't forget about seven months ago, six months ago,
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when Bill Gates is sitting next to Melania and the president,
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Are you afraid of what's happening with Epstein?
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Randy, I'll give you the final thoughts on this, and we'll go to the next story.
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I hope it's a lot more than one person that gets arrested.
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And again, I think we need to not pick and choose.
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We need to go after the people who did what they did with these people who came across the border.
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And in the U.K., you think it could break in the next one to three years?
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They also are voting to delete all of the records.
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Literally, the government is having a discussion.
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We need to delete all the evidence so no future government can come after these people.
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And so the only thing to me arguably worse than what's going on is that these Democrats—
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Are they really, Rob, saying they want to delete the file so a future leader cannot come after them?
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They said they didn't give that as their excuse.
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But it was deleting the—yeah, it was deleting the records.
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Rob, check the article that Humberto just sent you.
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Yeah, government U-turns again on decision to delete huge archives of Britain's court records.
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So maybe in the last day or two, they undid it.
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But yes, they're trying to delete all of the records of this.
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I mean, this is the opposite of the Epstein thing.
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We're trying to bring the records out, get to what's going on.
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To me, if I'm living in the U.K., this is a much bigger issue.
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It's something that's impacting me directly on a day-to-day basis.
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I'd argue that 300,000 missing kids is a pretty big deal, too.
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Look, when it comes down to the immigration, the kids, stuff like that, there is no political party at that point.
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But in regard to what could happen in the states, if they keep going—how close are you with Ro Khanna and Massey and what they're doing?
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He stood up and he gave six names, and four of the people were, like, completely innocent.
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They were guys who'd been brought in for some sort of lineup.
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They had nothing to do with the Epstein files, and he made them all look like pedophiles.
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So I'm not a huge fan of how they've gone about this.
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They're getting people in trouble who had nothing to do with this.
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And, again, they were there in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2022.
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What bothers me, the Epstein thing is unspeakable evil.
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But what bothers me as much is why didn't you care about unspeakable evil?
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How much did you put on Bondi, the way Bondi handled it?
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Why don't we put it under her predecessor at DOJ under Biden?
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But we should also look at why did no one care?
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Like, he—what you're talking about with Wexner happened in 1996.
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I mean, why aren't we going after the left and saying,
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I wasn't in Congress then, so you can't blame me.
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I'm in Congress now, and I voted to release all the files.
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But why didn't they care in 2021 and 2022 and 2023 and 2024?
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And why don't they care about the 300,000 illegal immigrants who came across the border?
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And why don't they care about the grooming gangs in the U.K.?
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They need to accuse Ayatollah Khamenei of being in the Epstein Finals.
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By the way, do you know there are claims of him dealing, allegedly, with young boys
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and early on being criticized of being gay early on in his career, Khamenei?
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To me, that's like at the bottom of the list of the scummy things that guy's done.
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One thing about Vinny that I love, he's becoming a great example to everybody around here,
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Yesterday, we were having dinner with two of our friends, Brian and Tom, who were there
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And I started telling the story about Vinny, where he went to, where he's at right now.
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Um, God literally saved me, and I'm here now because God, the story was, saw Pat on
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Instagram, clicked on it, saw that he was a Syrian.
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I just lost two friends to fentanyl poisoning, not overdose, because they didn't.
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And for you guys that know, my biggest thing is faith over fear and having faith in Jesus
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Last week, James Van Der Beek had that message where he said, I was facing death nose to nose,
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We forgot that, I don't know if you guys remember, on February 15th was the anniversary of 2015
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when the ISIS, uh, soldiers, whatever, terrorists, whatever you want to call them, were in Libya,
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and they captured 20 Christian, uh, construction workers, put them down.
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Rob has a photo in orange jumpsuits, put knives to their heads, and they said, if you guys right
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And these 20, I knew this was going to happen, 20 construction workers said, this is what
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That right there is, these are construction workers, Pat.
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They're not, these are just regular guys that all sat there, hands tied behind their
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And they said, nope, we believe in Jesus Christ.
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Because Jesus said, by the way, John chapter 14, six said what, Tom?
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I am the way, I am the truth, and I am the life.
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Nobody gets to me except through the Father, except through me, through Jesus Christ.
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If you were a Jewish person at that time, and you were now listening to Jesus, the Jewish
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leaders of the time were like, this rabbi here is a heretic.
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And persecuted started, and they were, they were scared.
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And that same passage where he says, I am the way, right before that, he says to Thomas,
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Take strength in knowing where eternity is, to sit there, and to, as Christ did on the
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cross, just to give it up and saying, look, I am not going to betray my Savior.
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And it says, take my life if God allows you to take it.
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Because if you do it, God is only permitting it, not causing it.
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And I just want to make sure I'm the way, I'm the truth, the life.
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And it's just that, that right there is the epitome of faith over fear.
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And I just can't, it's almost as if every week something else is happening that's proving
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And I pray that I have that much faith if it ever comes down to it.
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