“If WE Go, YOU Go!” - EXPLOSIVE Debate Over U.S.-Israel Ground War In Iran
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Rob and Pat are joined by Tom and Vinny to discuss the latest on the latest in the Iran situation, including a possible ground invasion of the Middle East by the U.S. and its allies, and the potential for a ground invasion by the Iranians.
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Tom, I'm going to come to you. This whole thing with Pentagon and, you know, sending troops
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and Iran is just lining up ready for that with the update of USS Tripoli. We saw the video with
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all the ships, how close they're getting. What is the latest with that, Tom? Well, the U.S. has
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dispatched another aircraft carrier from Newport. They've dispatched the Nimitz to go to the
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Mediterranean in support that left Virginia, I believe it is. And so all the show of force and
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all the resources are there. The Tripoli is there. The boxer is right behind it now, which is another
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assault carrier. And so everything is being set up. All the chess pieces are there for whatever
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final onslaught they want to make. Karg Island, the I'm going to pronounce it terribly,
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the Coestero-Carrar Island, which is the Long Island, which is right at the hook of the Strait
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of Hormuz. So either one of those. So all the military assets, Pat, are there to take advantage
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of it. And then as you properly pointed out, you know, you have NATO flip-flopping. They're
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reacting to energy prices. They're reacting to, you know, their own polling at home. So what do
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they do? Oh, well, we're not completely with them. Spain says we'll close the airspace. Oh,
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we'll close the airspace says France. Oh, you can't use, you know, Sicily says Italy. So it's
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like, come on, you know, you, you guys get a, either you're going to be allies, you're not
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going to be allies. But right now, all of the assets are there. I'm anxious to hear what he
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says tonight, but everything is there. If they want to take Carg Island or they want to get hot,
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everything is there as well as what people, um, we have moved over there a ton of A-10 warthogs
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And the A-10 Warthog is a massive Gatling cannon with an airplane attached.
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And then this weekend, Pat, we're hearing that B-52s, which is a 70-year-old platform, are flying bombing missions unmolested.
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So the surface-to-air missiles, Vinny, all those things that you would come up against are not happening.
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So it's like we need to get on to the surrender or whatever it is, Pat.
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Well, when they say, you know, boots on the ground, which you've been hearing since this started.
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While you're saying that, play that clip about the reporter trying to do a gotcha with Pete Hexet of boots on the ground, Rob.
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You may want to play that clip, and Vinny, I'll come to you.
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There's a lot of media coverage that suggested a ground invasion is imminent.
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What other purposes might the soldiers and the Marines who have been deployed over to the Middle East serve in this conflict?
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Well, just like the previous question, it's sort of military 101.
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Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do,
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and don't tell your enemy when you're willing to stop,
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especially an enemy that likes to hide in bunkers
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and try to hoard their missiles and hope he'll wait you out.
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we have our own goals and guidance and military objectives
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that we're moving toward and things that we look at.
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And as he's articulated, you know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three.
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It could be any any particular number, but we would never reveal precisely what it is because our goal is to finish those objectives.
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And we're well on our way. And the chairman and I look at this every single day.
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It will be the president's determination and the president's determination alone.
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I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm, you know, a military strategist.
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But I mean, he's the Department of War. He's he's he's the leader. He makes fantastic points.
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But if this does, because they're saying that they want to send ground troops,
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The moment boots hit the ground, you have to think about this, Pat.
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Iranian drones, the missiles, ground fire, explosives, mines, all that.
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And I have to be honest, I'm with you in the three to six,
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but now with ground troops, I think it goes a little bit past six months,
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If it goes six to 12 months, it's going to be a bloodbath.
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Here's a question for you, for all of you, Tom.
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So let's just say it goes, one, say they go, regime collapse,
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they go in similar to Venezuela, they take over, IRGC is done, one.
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Two, they say they got rid of all the nuclear weapons,
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all the nuclear capabilities, everything, that's the next case, two.
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Three, they just get out and they do PR messaging.
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We did what we went there, what we were supposed to do.
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But everybody's like, wait a minute, messaging was off.
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Which one, which event that happens between now and the midterms
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We took out all their Enriched Reunion and all that stuff.
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And now we're going to help them, I guess, with leadership or something, like with Reza Pallavia, who said, I'm going to wait for all this craziness to stop.
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Is there anything they can do with Iran for it to be favorable for Republicans during midterm?
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Give me the most favorable situation for it to happen, for the market to be like, oh, my God, he did it again.
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What is that one event that could happen with Iran?
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The most favorable is because Bibi just came out.
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Bibi Netanyahu has declared that Iran is no longer poses an existential threat to Israel.
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That means all the weapons to hit Israel is gone, which is great news, okay?
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The only way, Pat, that this, like, the best news is, guys, all the uranium, all the missiles are gone.
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And by the way, we've been kind of on the side, having leadership,
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like having a government where the people want this guy,
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they want Reza and this guy, and guys, they're going to start taking over,
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which we don't have to put no regime change or nothing.
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That's the only way people are going to be like, okay,
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you guys kept it kind of secret, but okay, good for you.
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I'm actually very glad that you're asking this question
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All I've been focusing on is the signal through the noise
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Here it is. He says, you want to know what the objective is of the war?
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Yeah, play the clip of what Rubio said, and then Adam, I'll come back to you.
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I'm not even sure if this is the clip, but go ahead.
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People are asking what the objective of this is.
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Many Americans are asking, why did the United States have to attack Iran now?
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If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim, is nuclear energy,
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like all the other countries in the world have it.
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they could use to quickly enrich it to weapons grade.
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not weapons, and every single time they have turned it down. But why the attack now? Well,
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what was Iran trying to do? Iran was trying to build a conventional shield, in essence,
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have so many missiles, have so many drones that no one could attack them, and they were well on
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their way. We were on the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles and so many drones that no
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one could do anything about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was an intolerable
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risk. Under no circumstances can a country run by radical Shia clerics with an apocalyptic vision
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of the future ever possess nuclear weapons. And under no circumstances can they be allowed to
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hide and protect that program and their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that no one
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can do anything about. This was our last best chance to eliminate that conventional threat,
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that conventional shield that they were trying to build. And the president made the right decision
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and finally have to deal with the world seriously
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locations in Ontario. Yeah, I mean, listen, sometimes you don't need to debate a million
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different things when someone comes out and tells you. Now, here's the question I'll ask.
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Do you believe Rubio? Because for me, when I see Rubio, I have a very calm presence.
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I know he's not going to say anything bombastic. I know he's not going to try to
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antagonized people actually think that rubio is a very stabilizing voice in the trump
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administration and the poll that we just showed proves it did it not 33 yeah so to me this is how
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i how i process this this is a moral and just war that needed to get done trump is the man of the
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hour and he needed to be the person to do this we've done eight 1987 he talked about this how
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many presidents have we had since then 10 different presidents whatever it's been nobody's done
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anything, or they haven't done anything enough to basically mitigate this threat from Iran.
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So Rubio come out there and says, listen, guys, there's three very clear objectives. Number one,
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we're going to completely destroy their military, all their capabilities, their air force, their
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navy, their ballistic missiles. Why? Because they have this shield. How many times did he
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mention shield in that little two-minute speech? At least three times. It's basically shielding
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their nuclear ambitions. And yes, they have nuclear ambitions. That's not even a doubt.
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last but not least we're going to defeat their terror network which was they've done with their
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allies israel namely and so they can't basically fly their planes which we just took out their
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air force so they can can't fly their planes to drop off weapons to hezbollah or ramas or the
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houthis so to me this is stability through strength iran is never listen i know you've
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talked about being sort of like the doomsday approach we got to take them all out in my
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approach this is it we're completely defanging these people they use that that that term you
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guys want to be radicals you want to be shiite radical muslims go right ahead you want to kill
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your own people do you buddy we think you're disgusting we don't we don't agree with you
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if you want to do this thing in your neck of the woods that's all you but you're not going to hold
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the rest of the world hostage like north korea and i'm so glad that trump and rubio have this
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moral clarity to mitigate this cancer you know you know what you just made me think about what
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the president could announce tonight let me tell you what he could announce tonight you know what
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will be a massive announcement tonight how much has the war cost so far is it 33 billion 35 billion
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40 billion what's the number right rob how much has the war cost us so far what's the number
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uh no it's a higher number than that i saw 25 billion okay let's just say let's say 25 to 35
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billion dollars and then they ask for an extra i think 200 billion yeah billion billion with a b
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he asked for 200 billion but let's say so far it's cost 25 to 35 billion dollars okay imagine
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he comes out tonight and he says, hey, big announcement. We just officially finalized
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a deal that UAE, MBS, Qatar, and the Gulf states have decided to fund the war against
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Iran. You won't be paying for it. They have decided. And here's what the message is from
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them now what do they say so imagine so the argument of finances and taxes yep that goes
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away he says imagine how much the people who are against this war they said finances first imagine
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how important this has to be to the gulf states where they're sitting there saying we don't want
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any of this i want to play you two clips we don't want any of this so much that guess what we're
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willing to pay for it you know how you got 18 trillion dollars of companies that commit in
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countries that committed to investing here what is it to couple these gulf states to say i'll give
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me 200 billion dollars we'll fund it we'll pay for it if that announcement is made tonight wow but
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let me tell you it shuts a lot of people up let me tell you why i think that's a possibility rob
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do you have that clip from mbs explaining what his thoughts were uh i think i send that you should
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have it somewhere where he's talking about iran and then after that i want you to go to one other
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clip and then i want to go to the other stories if you don't have it i can text it to you it was
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in my notes by the way okay uh let me just send this over here it's in my notes i'll just text
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it to you rob i'll make it easier for you uh rob and i you know listen we text 50 100 times during
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the podcast that nobody knows rob we're on texting mode at this point rob if you want to go to uh i
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just texted it to you right right there i want you to watch this mbs who is mbs the king pretty
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heavy-duty guy right play this clip play this clip go ahead rob go ahead
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Read, most of the destructive projects are currently founded in the Middle East
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There's an Iranian regime that we all know has a purely ideological goal.
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Its aim is not to serve the interests of Iran or the Iranian people,
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but rather to serve the Iranian ideological interests.
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There has been plenty of evidence over the past 30 years,
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the most recent being when they received $150 billion
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and didn't even build a single street housing complex
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Their goal is clear that they only spend that money on launching missiles at Saudi
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and supporting terrorist organizations in many parts of the world.
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Furthermore, the Iranian regime's work in supporting terrorism is not limited to Hezbollah or Houthis.
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We find today that many of the al-Qaeda's leaderships are based in Iran,
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including the son of Osama bin Laden who was nurtured and raised in Iran
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and now is trying to become the next leader of al-Qaeda,
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we are all aware of the risks and we are communicating on how to deal with them
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to ensure that the entire world is safe and secure,
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whether in the Middle East, Europe, or anywhere else,
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And who knows their neighbors better than a guy that lives in that community?
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So if I was to ask you right now, you live in a community,
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and imagine I'm telling you what your neighborhood is like.
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And you've lived there for 20 years, but you're like,
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Do you know in Saudi, if you go around committing crime,
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If you steal, do they still chop your hand off?
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Do you know what the tolerance they have there for crime?
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Do you know what they'll do to you if you go speak radical languages?
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Now, I want you to see supporters of IRGC in the streets,
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I want you to watch how this woman speaks.
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And tell me if you think in their hearts where they're at.
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These are civilians giving a message to the president.
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We have our faith on our soil, on our country, on our leadership.
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You're the loser in this war, that's for sure.
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So just letting you know on where they're at, right?
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There was two channels that they're repeating things
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over and over again i want to give credit to pierce pierce had one of the spokesperson on
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and the guy almost walked out i don't know if you guys have seen this clip or not where he pushes
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back he says respectfully there's a big difference between you guys and us on this dude okay is this
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it rob go click on this one i'll let you know if this is the one or not i tell you what we'll end
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it like this i've had you on my show many many times right when do i get invited on iranian
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state television oh you've gone i invited you to iran pierce i invited you to iran i'll do it like
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you do i'll do it like you do very good down the barrel of a camera you put me on iranian state
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television and let me say what i think about iranian state television in the way that i let
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you come on my show and criticize my country and the united states and the west fair's fair right
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professor because you've got freedom of speech in iran no problem in me piers morgan going on
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iranian state television and hammering your regime only you won't let that happen and the
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regime won't let it happen because amongst the many things that you repress the biggest thing
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you repress is freedom of speech that's why you can't talk out against your regime and that's why
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you wouldn't let me go on state tv in iran and talk out against your regime and that is the
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difference between us so you can try and take the high moral ground but the reality is that is the
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difference the best i've seen pierce morgan do yeah by far but it's a point to understand what
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that climate is so if tonight the president gets up and announces that the gulf states have agreed
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to fund everything that we're spending the market is going to be confused on what angle to take with
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this and they're going to be like yeah but yeah but yeah but so at least one of the issues with
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money's been addressed so the other issues that he has to address as well which is a bigger one
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what's the other one when it's over when when it's over are troops on the ground like is that
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going to happen so how they're going to address that nobody knows you know hex that said three
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weeks ago that's president's decision if he wants to do it he has a choice to do it but
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i i guarantee you he is thinking about every single one of these things that said the pentagon
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Vinny, I'll come to you, and I want to go to next.
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because Adam, you brought up Israel for a second.
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They're saying that they're not going to send any ground troops.
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You did, and you talked about the people of Iran,
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because it does not have the logistics to sustain
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But the one thing that pisses me off is, like, right now, they have boots in the ground in Lebanon, and they're actually seizing land.
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So you're not going to put boots in the ground in Iran, which, by the way, this war is for both of us, allegedly more for Israel than us.
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600,000 of those Lebanese people have to move out they say that they're going to be able to come
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back and that's what like that tells me clearly that the logistics is for them when it serves
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their objectives and I said this on the first podcast we did on the stage in the other building
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if we send a thousand of our American troops I want 1,000 Israeli boots on the ground as well
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but from what I'm hearing Adam from what they're saying it's not going to happen okay and like what
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do we like i i disagree with that 1000 and earlier you said something about hey if they want to kill
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each other and whatever the people whatever this whole thing started my from what i recall is for
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the iranian people the iran by the way who we haven't heard i have your back i have your back
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and i haven't heard one this guy that we just saw he has wi-fi he's sitting in a room he's talking
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to pierce morgan what happened to the people i haven't heard anything i haven't heard any
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updates uh and that's that's what i care about because to me besides the missiles and they were
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in uranium what about the thousands that were in the street fighting and dying and and pushing out
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their voices and the the the wrestlers that were being hanged in the middle of the street that's
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what this comes down to and i'm very disappointed that israel's attitude is not we're not gonna
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we're not gonna put troops meanwhile we're trying to expand somewhere else and then when you bring
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up the greater israel project people are like you're crazy by the way that's a very that's a
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very valid question if if very valid question if i'm sending my guys you got to send your guys if
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you don't send your guys i'm sending my guys even the most logical player cannot sit there and say
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what are you talking about even the most logical player and by the way even more from your end i
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don't even want it to be one for one i don't even want it to be one for one it's got to be two for
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one three for one because this benefits you more than it benefits me i know we're partners but it's
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got to be a two-to-one or three-to-one situation when that's taking place. And then what does
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that say, Pat? What does that say about your ally that they're like, no, we're good, but
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you're over here, you're expanding? Like, wait a minute, time out. This is the situation
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we're at. The expanding part of Lebanon is your concern? But walk me through it. How
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is that a concern of you? Because right now, right now, the focus should be this war. Not
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if you're defending yourself. No, that's not how this works, though. No, that's not how
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this works and and let me tell you what I mean by that's not how it works so a lot of times
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when you're when you're in a uh when you're in a very very chaotic situation like when the okay
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let me put it to you this way remember when COVID happened how many banks were getting killed and
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crushed remember Tom when COVID happened how bad was it for some banks it was scary for a lot of
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guys. Very scary. Okay. So who capitalized off that crisis? Go ahead. No, no. Watch this. Go
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ahead. Jamie Dimon. How many times? Multiple. Multiple times. You know why? Because he had
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all the dry powder to absorb the banks because he understood that what was coming. So let me
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ask you a question. Would you call Jamie Dimon an expansionist? Of course. It's not even a
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hesitation. I call him a business guy. I know. But what I'm saying is in this reference,
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You're expanding and he bought up other banks that couldn't handle it.
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You don't think in this situation Netanyahu is going to be an opportunistic guy and saying, hey, let's take this.
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You don't think Trump's going to be taking over Cuba?
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You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over Greenland, he will?
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You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over, he will?
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So the part where I'm going with this is the following.
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You can watch a guy and criticize him on a few different things,
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I understand he's being opportunistic and taking advantage of what's going on right now,
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and he's getting everything he can at this point.
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If I'm on the phone with him and I say, wait, you want me to send how many?
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Because if you're getting out there saying, we're not going to have any boots on the ground, guess what?
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So then if I'm sending my boots on the ground, guess what I have to get from you?
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You don't think if I'm sending my boots on the ground behind closed doors, I have to negotiate a strong deal to get more things out of you?
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