Valuetainment - April 28, 2026


“I’ll Buy Your $3.5M House” - Arman Tsarukyan TORCHES Ilia Topuria Ducking Him

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Michael Chandler John Jones Habib Dana Sean Strickland Jon Jones Charles Tony Ferguson Ilia Pereira Hamza Ergo Arcarso Paddy Pimlet Hamza Chemaia King Creon Vag Timmon Jones-Pereira Percella Daniel Ronda Mario
Why Mediocre Workers Won’t Survive “I’ll Fight For USA” - Arman Tsarukyan CALLS OUT UFC Over White House Snub

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In this episode, we talk with UFC fighter and former UFC welterweight champion Justin Gaethje. We talk about his UFC career, his relationship with UFC President Dana White, and why he doesn't want to fight anymore.

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00:00:00.000 Do you see that as a common pattern?
00:00:01.560 Like, you know, the faces of the fighting game
00:00:05.140 typically have a little bit of conflict with the top of UFC.
00:00:08.020 Yeah, because everybody wants to make more money.
00:00:11.460 So they hear, like, how much the NBA players,
00:00:15.000 how much the football players are making,
00:00:16.840 and UFC fighters want to make a lot of money too.
00:00:21.020 And then they started, like, to do that thing.
00:00:23.900 Jon Jones, not just he wants big money.
00:00:28.220 for the White House. 0.96
00:00:31.460 He wants Islam. 1.00
00:00:32.660 He asks the big money. 1.00
00:00:34.820 Everybody asking for big money.
00:00:37.760 That's why probably they argue.
00:00:40.380 So you think it's the money part.
00:00:41.780 Well, let me ask you.
00:00:42.400 Yeah, 100% money.
00:00:43.540 Let's say I'm negotiating on behalf of Dana.
00:00:45.920 For the next two minutes, I work for Dana.
00:00:48.040 For me, they send me a contract.
00:00:49.800 I sign and give it back.
00:00:50.840 I don't even watch how much they...
00:00:52.240 That's exactly what...
00:00:53.180 If they were to say,
00:00:57.600 okay, something happened to Justin.
00:00:59.980 I want you to be on the White House card,
00:01:01.740 but we're not paying you nothing.
00:01:02.840 Would you take the fight?
00:01:04.560 100%.
00:01:04.920 So let me get this straight.
00:01:06.340 I mean, this is very important
00:01:07.340 because we can save UFC some money right now.
00:01:09.200 Yeah.
00:01:10.040 If they called you from UFC right now
00:01:12.380 and they said take the fight against Ilya 4-0,
00:01:14.880 you take it, don't pay me nothing.
00:01:15.940 I got a watch in my contract to fight for the title.
00:01:19.200 I don't know how much I'm getting paid.
00:01:21.560 Because last time before the hooker fight,
00:01:24.740 they gave me contract.
00:01:25.760 I said, okay, I'll sign it because I want to be a normal guy in UFC
00:01:31.200 because I don't have too much tools.
00:01:32.880 They give me contract, I sign.
00:01:34.460 It was a good money, and I just signed it.
00:01:37.240 I didn't say, oh, add me like 200 more because I want to more money.
00:01:40.800 I said, okay, I want to fight for the title.
00:01:43.120 They give me Hooker, I beat him, and then I go to fight for the title.
00:01:46.380 I beat Hooker, and then wrestling on the RAF.
00:01:52.600 You headbutt it, and that's what Daniel didn't like.
00:01:55.260 He doesn't, you know, there's certain things he wants.
00:01:58.700 Do you have a relationship with Conor?
00:02:01.620 No.
00:02:02.920 Have you guys ever met?
00:02:04.840 Yeah, I fought on the same card as Conor.
00:02:11.920 Conor with Dana is good.
00:02:13.420 Habib is good.
00:02:14.280 Not like all fighters, but a lot of fighters are good.
00:02:18.460 Only maybe Jon Jones.
00:02:20.700 Who else?
00:02:21.880 And now Ronda.
00:02:25.260 meaning not good with UFC.
00:02:27.380 Yeah.
00:02:27.760 Yeah, but Conor was a little bit difficult at times.
00:02:29.980 You know, Conor, you know, he gave him a little bit of a hard time
00:02:32.240 with, you know, throwing that thing through the glass in the bus.
00:02:36.160 But it's good for the UFC.
00:02:38.260 Yes.
00:02:39.160 You think they don't like it?
00:02:41.100 They like it.
00:02:42.960 So are you thinking about throwing something through that window?
00:02:45.100 You're like, let me go grab the chair right now.
00:02:47.780 Yeah, so the drama, the sport, why this sport is, like, getting big
00:02:53.960 because of drama not because of fighting like conor habib diaz you know the trash talk everything
00:03:02.520 not just fighting what was going on before the fight the boss thing it was like it went viral
00:03:09.540 too it was everywhere yeah because of that that that fight was the most biggest fight in the 0.95
00:03:17.700 in the uvc if it wasn't that conflict before that okay conor habib yeah they talk shit in the press 0.65
00:03:25.100 and then fight it's it's gone yeah i saw what you said once i thought it was so funny 0.57
00:03:29.960 you said to to poria correct me if i'm wrong here i think you said i'll buy your house if you fight
00:03:36.080 me did you say something like that i'll buy your three and a half million dollar house if you fight
00:03:39.660 me yeah um so he was selling his house right and he didn't have a fight and i said yeah i'll buy
00:03:47.680 his house and uh and uh i mean this is just trolling at its best i'll buy your house if
00:03:54.000 you agree to fight me next ilia tiporia has put his three and a half million dollar home for sale
00:03:58.240 and my dad called me and i heard you're buying the house in spain i said yeah when he said when
00:04:03.840 we're going to vacation your dad said that yeah but who i'm gonna call and uh he's he's gonna say
00:04:09.760 yes yeah did he did he respond back to you or no no no go a little bit down on the comment section
00:04:15.760 arriving in Madrid to buy Ilya's
00:04:19.720 house
00:04:20.080 people are funny
00:04:27.720 with you
00:04:28.300 that's interesting
00:04:32.100 so how much
00:04:33.700 of
00:04:35.360 match
00:04:37.460 because right now some people would say
00:04:39.500 the UFC
00:04:40.160 they've had some good fights like I was at this last
00:04:43.600 one no big names it was actually very good
00:04:45.580 card like if you were at the fight it was phenomenal probably the best heavyweight fight
00:04:50.040 that took place that went the distance you know the last fight where you know he is i don't know
00:04:56.780 if he was acl was torn or his knee you know and he kept getting kick kick it's like this is over
00:05:02.060 with and then all of a sudden boom and everybody was blown away by the fight the way it ended but
00:05:06.700 a big card they haven't had that for a minute yeah but it's hard people like expecting like
00:05:14.380 every title fight
00:05:15.760 like it's gonna be
00:05:16.600 drama
00:05:17.000 this
00:05:17.460 that
00:05:17.800 like
00:05:18.620 and like
00:05:20.040 they didn't sell
00:05:20.800 a lot of like
00:05:21.740 a pay-per-view
00:05:22.300 or what's it called
00:05:23.020 I don't know
00:05:23.680 pay-per-view
00:05:24.080 yeah
00:05:24.500 but
00:05:26.440 for example
00:05:28.060 like
00:05:28.420 all bigger star
00:05:29.400 booked now
00:05:30.160 like Hamza
00:05:31.000 big fight
00:05:32.240 coming up
00:05:32.840 Ilia
00:05:33.780 Pereira
00:05:34.800 on the White House
00:05:35.760 and
00:05:36.800 UFC doesn't have
00:05:39.680 so much stars
00:05:40.760 to put on the
00:05:42.020 on the
00:05:42.620 on the every card
00:05:43.840 that's why
00:05:44.320 and the one fight
00:05:47.840 pulled out too
00:05:48.680 the common event
00:05:49.820 for the title
00:05:50.420 one versus
00:05:51.180 I don't know who
00:05:53.020 that's why
00:05:56.060 they didn't sell it
00:05:56.980 a lot of tickets
00:05:58.540 but you see
00:06:01.040 you never know
00:06:01.640 you see the names
00:06:02.440 they don't have big names
00:06:03.480 and you come
00:06:04.120 watch and like
00:06:04.940 the best fight ever
00:06:05.840 right
00:06:06.340 like you said
00:06:07.020 the heavyweight fight
00:06:09.300 so
00:06:10.780 that's why
00:06:11.840 that's why every every event they they they have something special matchmakers works works good so
00:06:20.400 you said you're a fan so if you're a fan and you everywhere you go people are talking to you they
00:06:25.680 want to speak to you about ufc or different things if you could make three fights happen
00:06:30.100 and you're a matchmaker who do you create what fights would you want to see in the ufc in the
00:06:35.720 UFC, Jones versus Pereira.
00:06:38.840 Jones-Pereira.
00:06:40.380 Armand versus Gage.
00:06:41.720 Oh, I remember Armand versus Ilya.
00:06:44.320 Okay.
00:06:45.400 And the next one, Hamza Chema versus Sean Strickland.
00:06:50.540 Strickland.
00:06:51.540 Those three fights.
00:06:52.500 Yeah.
00:06:53.000 Strickland has a fight, that.
00:06:54.480 Yeah.
00:06:54.740 Versus Hamza.
00:06:55.580 Yeah.
00:06:56.200 And then Pereira, John Jones, it's a big fight.
00:06:59.260 They wanted to do that fight on the White House, I guess.
00:07:02.540 i think john asked for like 30 million or i don't know what the number was 15 million and they didn't
00:07:07.840 want to do it i read somewhere maybe john asked for a bigger number and they said no we're not
00:07:13.140 going to pay it so it went to went a different direction yeah and you see a lot of fights you
00:07:17.980 can do you can do a lot of fights uh 145 it's uh jones wanted over 15 million yeah that's what
00:07:24.660 Jones wanted $15 million for the bout,
00:07:29.440 and it failed due to a reported gap of $5 million.
00:07:32.040 Now, keep in mind, this is, you know, ESPN reporting.
00:07:34.600 Yeah, but I think UFC could pay him $15 million.
00:07:37.800 $15 million?
00:07:38.620 $15 million.
00:07:39.740 Yeah, easy.
00:07:41.060 For White House, he deserved $15 million.
00:07:44.020 And I think they could pay him.
00:07:45.820 It's something like a different issue.
00:07:49.760 It's my opinion.
00:07:51.100 All right, what's your opinion?
00:07:52.580 Percella.
00:07:53.160 Percella.
00:07:54.000 Okay, so no chance at all.
00:07:55.300 No chance, yeah.
00:07:57.120 I think, like, one of the biggest event ever,
00:08:01.400 and you think they're not going to pay $15 million?
00:08:04.700 For sure they paid.
00:08:06.660 Yeah.
00:08:07.740 They got a lot of money.
00:08:09.620 They got a lot of money.
00:08:10.460 I mean, if you...
00:08:11.320 And he has not a lot of fights left,
00:08:13.480 so maybe one, two fights, John Jones.
00:08:16.140 And he's a legend.
00:08:17.540 And, like, Conor, he made, like, $15, $20 million, right, for the fights.
00:08:22.660 Can you pull up, what are Conor's highest, you know...
00:08:26.680 No, on the boxing, he made a lot.
00:08:28.540 On the boxing, he made $100 million.
00:08:29.800 In UFC, he made, I think, for his pay-per-view, something like 30 mil, 20 mil, 20-something mil.
00:08:35.740 So, not the UFC, but on the including bonuses, $5 to $6 million, UFC, $100 million.
00:08:40.840 Are you sure it's only $5 to $6 million, the most he made?
00:08:43.300 Can you ask the same question on ChatGBT, Rob?
00:08:46.400 No, but you never know.
00:08:48.000 Maybe they pay him extra.
00:08:50.940 Conversation side.
00:08:51.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:52.660 but but to extra bonuses uc always send me extra bonuses yeah a couple days ago they sent me
00:08:59.340 42k i don't know for what maybe for my for my social media are you serious yeah yeah
00:09:07.920 yeah they did they ever explain where it's coming from or no i didn't ask you just took the money
00:09:13.020 maybe maybe my manager gonna say hey where's my person yeah i was i was not saying so eddie
00:09:19.080 alvarez 6.8 million interesting that eddie's what did he get paid on khabib no way it was a three
00:09:25.380 million dollar flat fight was habib there is no way it was only three million mcgregor claimed it
00:09:31.420 was worth around 50 million total with pay-per-view dustin they got five million a piece what what is
00:09:38.340 the highest paid a ufc fighter got paid what is the highest you're never gonna know because they
00:09:45.240 They used to pay the note on the books.
00:09:51.440 I heard they pay so much money when it was for Titus.
00:09:56.060 Yeah.
00:09:58.920 Is UFC a publicly traded company now where they have to report?
00:10:03.020 Okay, zoom in on that one a little bit.
00:10:05.660 Where's the biggest payday total earnings?
00:10:07.600 But is that earnings to the fighter or is that earnings to UFC?
00:10:10.600 They say that that's all three fights combined.
00:10:13.820 No, but I heard he makes around 20 million, the Conor.
00:10:16.980 A fight.
00:10:17.520 Yeah, from the Habib's fight, he made like 20 or 30 million.
00:10:20.960 20 or 30 million?
00:10:22.060 It's good money, no?
00:10:22.680 Yeah, but if you look at the most, there's a, I think,
00:10:25.700 four out of the five highest pay-per-view tickets ever sold,
00:10:31.500 four out of the five Conors in those fights.
00:10:33.220 If you go to the highest UFC pay-per-view tickets sold,
00:10:41.360 highest ufc pay-per-view tickets sold i want to know top five fights i think four out of five
00:10:49.800 connor's in all of them okay zoom in there you go four out of actually five out of five is connor
00:10:56.760 isn't that amazing 2.4 million damn 1.8 million poirier three 1.6 million poirier two
00:11:06.480 1.6 million, Diaz, 2.
00:11:09.120 1.3 million, Diaz, 1.
00:11:12.100 Can I imagine 2.4 on how much is the perfect?
00:11:16.100 100, 150?
00:11:17.580 70 bucks.
00:11:18.700 I don't know what it is.
00:11:19.520 I want to say it's probably 70 to 100 bucks.
00:11:21.860 So it's 200.
00:11:23.360 Ergo Arcarso, 1 million?
00:11:24.580 Yeah. 1.00
00:11:25.280 Damn. 1.00
00:11:26.460 80 bucks. 1.00
00:11:27.700 80 bucks times 2.4 million.
00:11:30.760 That's $200 million right there.
00:11:33.220 Yeah, probably he makes around 30 million.
00:11:34.880 on those fights?
00:11:36.780 Habib maybe 10, 15, and he make probably about 30 mil.
00:11:40.740 How much do you think it's fighting?
00:11:41.900 How much do you think it's his personality and ability to promote?
00:11:46.440 Fighting is 80%, 70%, and 30% is promote.
00:11:51.300 You think that's what it is?
00:11:52.280 Yeah.
00:11:52.840 Okay, so you put 70 of it on a skill set,
00:11:55.040 30 of it on the promoting set.
00:11:56.140 Yeah, if you're bad, you're not going to be in the title.
00:11:59.760 Interesting, 70, 30.
00:12:00.880 That makes sense.
00:12:01.820 Yeah, you've got to be a good fighter to fight for the title.
00:12:04.040 Yeah, that's a very good point.
00:12:05.780 Unless if you're not Paddy Pimlet. 0.86
00:12:08.980 Paddy Pimlet, 10% fighting, 90% trash talk.
00:12:15.360 So you think 10%?
00:12:16.480 Paddy's a pretty good fighter.
00:12:17.940 Did you watch his last fight?
00:12:19.420 Yeah, that was not good.
00:12:20.640 But the previous one.
00:12:21.920 Versus who?
00:12:23.400 Well, I've been to quite a few. 0.98
00:12:25.020 Yeah, he beat like trash canes.
00:12:28.700 They just give him so easy fights that even my dad can beat him.
00:12:34.460 Yeah, really.
00:12:35.620 He beat like a Tony Ferguson who has nine losing streak.
00:12:40.660 He beat the, what's the?
00:12:46.340 Just put up his last fights, Rob.
00:12:48.240 Go down a little bit.
00:12:49.000 It'll show his fights.
00:12:50.160 Michael Chandler.
00:12:52.620 Michael Chandler.
00:12:53.700 Michael Chandler, 10 fights in UFC, nine loses.
00:12:57.080 Is that?
00:12:57.560 That's not Michael Chandler's record.
00:12:58.300 Approximately, approximately.
00:12:59.140 So click on Chandler's record?
00:13:00.460 No, King Green, King Green.
00:13:02.200 Check it out, King Green.
00:13:03.100 Go on King Green, right?
00:13:04.500 King Green, brother.
00:13:05.940 Check his last 15 or 10 fights in UFC.
00:13:11.100 Okay, last 10 fights.
00:13:13.420 Go down.
00:13:14.260 3-3.
00:13:16.360 Like five loses, five wins.
00:13:18.560 Yeah.
00:13:19.300 Go to Chandler.
00:13:21.160 The thing with Chandler is he's one of the most –
00:13:26.480 Chandler's first round may be the most exciting round in the first –
00:13:31.800 If you can make it past the first round, but you're going to have a lot of pain.
00:13:36.980 Last one, two, three, four, five.
00:13:39.120 Last six fights, five loses.
00:13:41.840 Armand, respectfully, he almost beat Charles.
00:13:44.880 He almost beat Justin.
00:13:46.720 I almost was a UFC champion.
00:13:54.400 These were pretty good fights that he had.
00:13:57.320 I'm telling you.
00:13:57.880 And if you look at the two rounds, three rounds, two rounds, three rounds,
00:14:01.420 five rounds with Charles, yeah, he's a –
00:14:07.880 Last six fights, five loses.
00:14:10.460 That's crazy.
00:14:11.560 He's a pretty fun guy to watch.
00:14:14.800 Yeah.
00:14:15.100 He's a pretty fun guy to watch.
00:14:15.900 Like a fan, yeah.
00:14:17.100 First round, it's good.
00:14:19.220 His fight versus Gage, Topuri, or Porrier was good.
00:14:23.240 I mean, for fans, it's good to watch.
00:14:24.920 But like a fighter, it's hard.
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