Valuetainment - July 18, 2026


ā€œIndustrial Espionageā€ - Apple Sues OpenAI on Stealing Trade Secrets


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Apple sues OpenAI, alleging trade secret theft, says scheme was at every level. Apple says it s a shocking reversal for the two companies which entered into a high-profile partnership in 2024 when OpenAI was integrated into the company s operating system.

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00:00:30.000 Open AI allegedly stole from Apple, and they're calling this industrial espionage.
00:00:38.700 That was the word that Tom was using.
00:00:41.900 He's like, Pat, this is industrial espionage.
00:00:44.980 And so it's a very big story.
00:00:46.920 Let me, I'll go through the addendum first, and I'll go to the other one.
00:00:50.380 I think page 24, is that the one, Tom?
00:00:53.240 What page do you have it on, on this story?
00:00:55.400 This is a massive, massive story.
00:00:57.220 Main 10 is where it starts.
00:00:58.280 For you, it's Main 10.
00:01:00.300 See, I don't have it on my main tent.
00:01:01.760 Can I get your notes?
00:01:02.760 Mine doesn't say main tent.
00:01:04.080 So I went to main tent and I don't have it.
00:01:07.160 Which one do you have as main tent?
00:01:09.000 Okay, let me read this to you.
00:01:10.140 Apple sues OpenAI, alleging trade secret theft, says scheme was at every level.
00:01:17.440 See NBC story.
00:01:18.120 Apple on Friday sued OpenAI in federal court in Northern California, alleging trade secret
00:01:22.100 theft, saying that the artificial intelligence lab took the iPhone's marker, intellectual
00:01:27.800 property in order to develop its own consumer hardware this much is clear however at every
00:01:33.380 level from members of its technical staff to its chief trade secrets and confidential information
00:01:38.960 the company said in a legal filing it's a shocking reversal for the two companies which entered into
00:01:45.240 a high-profile partnership in 2024 when chad gpt was integrated into the iphone's operating system
00:01:50.220 open ai co sam altman visited apple's headquarters for the announcement but relations between the
00:01:55.180 Two companies have chilled since OpenAI announced plans to enter the hardware industry last year
00:02:01.100 when it bought former Apple designer John Ives' startup called I.O. Product for $6.4 billion.
00:02:08.580 Apple's updated version of its Sirius system, which is coming out this fall,
00:02:13.060 is based on Google's Gemini models instead of ChadGBT.
00:02:16.060 Most of Apple's allegations involve former employees who have interviewed who with or joined OpenAI.
00:02:21.880 Apple alleges that OpenAI's chief hardware officer, Tank Tan, who is a former Apple vice president, has directed Apple employees interviewing at OpenAI to share Apple secrets as part of the interviewing process.
00:02:33.980 What?
00:02:35.100 He has directed job candidates still working at Apple to bring actual parts from Apple to their interviews for show and tell sessions in which he and his team at OpenAI can elicit still more Apple confidential information, Apple said in the filing.
00:02:50.100 That is insane.
00:02:51.240 Tom, your thoughts on the story. So this is this is going to get really, really big.
00:02:54.880 And the question is going to be who's got the biggest lobbyist or the biggest proxy balls with the Department of Justice and the Department of and the Federal Trade Commission.
00:03:07.980 I'll tell you why. So on one hand, they're saying, oh, no, no, no.
00:03:11.880 In an interview like I'm interviewing you, Pat. Hey, Pat, you know, you worked at Apple.
00:03:16.860 Tell me about some of the projects you worked on. Did you really work on it?
00:03:20.260 Were you involved?
00:03:21.920 Those are fine questions.
00:03:23.720 That's right.
00:03:24.260 On your resume here, it says you directed the project.
00:03:27.200 Did you direct it or were you just involved?
00:03:29.280 I directed the project.
00:03:30.580 These are standard interviews, right?
00:03:31.900 You're sorting it out because, you know, Vinny, some people say they did more than they did.
00:03:35.480 Of course.
00:03:35.920 Well, the line gets crossed is, do you have any schematics or anything?
00:03:39.620 And the allegations are people were encouraged to come to the meeting with printouts or other schematics or things to talk about what they did.
00:03:48.520 And then all of a sudden, OpenAI allegedly had suddenly you're in an interview with 10 people, supposedly.
00:03:56.800 So if that's what happened, that's bad.
00:03:58.640 What's even worse is there are allegations of documentation that they said, hey, Vinny, Pat, you know, when you leave Apple, the following three things are going to happen on your laptop with the security team.
00:04:10.600 If you do this, this and this, you can evade the security detection if you want to, you know, bring any of that with you.
00:04:17.980 Here's what's dangerous about this.
00:04:19.900 What kind of salaries have we been hearing about top hires in Silicon Valley?
00:04:23.800 We've been talking about that. 0.95
00:04:24.780 Ridiculous. 0.88
00:04:25.400 Dana White in an interview the other day said, he sits on a board of Meta. 0.98
00:04:29.440 He says, Mark Zuckerberg is the biggest badass I've met in my life.
00:04:32.720 Dana said in an interview, he paid four engineers a $65 million a year salary.
00:04:38.040 What?
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00:04:39.960 Four?
00:04:40.460 Okay, can you find this clip?
00:04:41.880 Meta says four employees.
00:04:43.500 That's the one right there.
00:04:44.320 Play that clip.
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00:05:17.660 no sound i just got back from the meta board meeting zuckerberg who was a brilliant
00:05:24.940 gangster this guy gangster these people who who try to talk about him and everything else
00:05:32.120 i'm so blown away and impressed by this guy he's an animal and uh putting all the chips in on ai
00:05:38.520 we just hired like 10 kids that are aged 22 to 28 the average salary is like 65 million dollars
00:05:46.960 These kids are naked that are coming and working on AI.
00:05:50.200 And they don't have to flop.
00:05:51.460 You don't hear a lot of negativity about AI.
00:05:53.020 There's way more positives about AI than negative.
00:05:56.040 Did you hear that?
00:05:56.940 22 to 28 years old, average salary, $65 million.
00:06:01.980 So when they're trying to hire you in open AI.
00:06:04.260 There's a war going on right now in Silicon Valley.
00:06:05.880 So this is what Tom's talking about.
00:06:07.300 So basically, the allegation that's even worse,
00:06:11.000 it's bad enough to say, you know, tell me what you did at Apple.
00:06:14.360 Interview question.
00:06:15.060 Hey, bring a couple things with you and show them to them.
00:06:17.620 All of a sudden you have a panel interview.
00:06:18.940 That's bad.
00:06:19.620 That's illegal.
00:06:20.260 You're putting the applicant in bad situation.
00:06:22.980 And if that's the way it happened, that sort of thing would be illegal.
00:06:26.100 I'm not the judge and jury on this.
00:06:27.960 But then there have been documents and emails found where they told them exactly how to evade Apple security when you leave your job and come over here.
00:06:37.540 And you're talking about, we don't know what the salaries are, but what Dana White was just talking about is just how big the war is for talent.
00:06:44.760 And so this thing, this industrial espionage, this is going to be huge.
00:06:50.440 The last time we've seen things this huge, you know, we had a giant one that happened in Formula One where Ferrari guys, McLaren guys, stole secrets from Ferrari guys.
00:07:00.060 They told the Ferrari guys to go have them printed out at Kinko's when there was a Kinko's.
00:07:04.500 And then the McLaren guys went in there and faked the ID and picked them up.
00:07:08.280 So it was just it's crazy.
00:07:09.900 But industrial espionage has been going on for a while.
00:07:12.120 But this is huge.
00:07:12.960 what's also big is a number of people that are lining up against sam altman including elon musk
00:07:19.800 you have the clip of what he said about elon musk elon is not a fan of sam at all he calls
00:07:24.440 him scam altman yeah he is not always match there yeah he's not adam your thoughts on this
00:07:30.380 yeah you guys uh you're absolutely right with the elon thing you know when did uh chat gpt open
00:07:35.980 i came out i think november of 2022 does that make sense since then i feel like everything
00:07:41.340 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO
00:07:43.340 TALK ABOUT IT.
00:07:44.340 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO
00:07:45.340 TALK ABOUT IT.
00:07:46.340 I THINK EVERYTHING WITH SAM
00:07:48.340 ALTMAN HAS BEEN DRAMA AND BEEF.
00:07:49.340 YOU BRING UP THE ELON MUST 0.94
00:07:51.340 THING, HE CALLS HIM SCAM ALTMAN. 0.72
00:07:52.340 IT'S INTERESTING.
00:07:53.340 I THINK TOMMY REMEMBER THIS, HE
00:07:55.340 WAS CEO, HE WAS FIRED, THEN
00:07:57.340 REHIRED, THERE WAS ALMOST LIKE A
00:07:59.340 REVOLT WITHIN THE COMPANY.
00:08:00.340 HE MEANING SAM. 0.94
00:08:01.340 THAT'S RIGHT.
00:08:02.340 TUCKER CARLSON INTERVIEWED HIM
00:08:04.340 AND BASICALLY KIND OF WAS LIKE
00:08:06.340 DID YOU MURDER ONE OF YOUR
00:08:08.340 EMPLOYEES?
00:08:09.340 WHAT ARE YOU INSINUATING RIGHT
00:08:11.340 making zero accusations i'm saying that's what tucker did but now it's not even apple that's
00:08:16.280 suing him apparently there's all these copyright infringements publishers artists musicians
00:08:21.440 authors everything there there's privacy uh concerns sam altman he's got some explaining
00:08:28.080 to do as they say by the way can you do me a favor just the latest thing with apple and it
00:08:32.260 and it's around mainly one guy can you pull up tang tang a great name tang tang it's almost
00:08:38.760 That's related to Fang Fang.
00:08:40.260 No, no.
00:08:40.620 Eric Swalwell.
00:08:41.040 The first one, there you go.
00:08:42.040 So who is Tank Tank?
00:08:43.600 So let me kind of give you an idea.
00:08:44.620 Can you go to images on who this guy is?
00:08:46.100 Go to images.
00:08:47.360 Tank Tank spent 24 years at Apple.
00:08:50.000 No, the second one is not Tank.
00:08:51.680 Not the second G.
00:08:52.380 First one is Tank.
00:08:53.280 The second one is missing a G.
00:08:54.560 There you go.
00:08:54.980 Take the G out. 0.99
00:08:55.640 There you go. 0.96
00:08:56.460 So that guy right there.
00:08:57.260 Go to all and go to his Wikipedia.
00:08:59.460 Spent 24 years at Apple.
00:09:00.580 This is the main guy that lost it, just so everybody knows.
00:09:03.140 He joined Apple in the early 2000s,
00:09:04.600 became one of the company's top hardware executives,
00:09:06.500 was widely regarded as part of generational leaders
00:09:08.500 who helped shape the iPhone after Steve Jobs.
00:09:11.600 This is a heavyweight.
00:09:12.860 This guy's a heavyweight.
00:09:14.300 He helped oversee iPhone and Apple Watch hardware.
00:09:17.700 Responsibilities included engineering and product design.
00:09:20.600 He was one of Apple's highest-ranking hardware leaders.
00:09:23.020 They have a score.
00:09:23.960 Like, you know how in the military, there's Sergeant Major, General,
00:09:26.580 Be My Little General, Brigadier General's a one-star,
00:09:29.420 Major General's a two-star, Lieutenant General.
00:09:31.360 Lieutenant General, three-star, and then General is a four-star, right?
00:09:33.920 So this guy's one of the heavyweights there.
00:09:35.920 Then he left Apple in 24, and he joins Johnny Ives' new hardware company, which OpenAI, you heard, just bought for $6.4 billion.
00:09:44.720 OpenAI requires it, and so why is it important?
00:09:47.000 OpenAI wants to build an AI device that could someday compete with the iPhone, and so Apple is suing because they're saying you're taking this away.
00:09:55.300 So this guy is the main figurehead in this discussion, so it's interesting.
00:10:03.880 It's kind of like what happened with when Jake Paul, I believe,
00:10:07.360 recruited Dana White's former CFO that went to him.
00:10:11.400 I don't know if you remember that or not.
00:10:12.780 Jake Paul recruited him, Armenian guy.
00:10:15.380 He recruited the Armenian guy.
00:10:16.880 Good-looking guy.
00:10:17.520 He had that red jacket on, and he's kind of like a power player.
00:10:21.140 These types of things happen right there.
00:10:22.800 Nakisha Bidarian, who left there, he was a former UFC CFO from 11 to 2016
00:10:28.160 and helped orchestrate the historic $4 billion sell to Endeavor.
00:10:31.820 So he then goes and joins Jake Paul.
00:10:33.880 When this kind of stuff happens, it happens.
00:10:35.840 It happened to us.
00:10:36.600 It happens to everybody.
00:10:37.500 It's just, it's going to, stuff like this happens, but it's a real, real war that is
00:10:43.180 taking place.
00:10:43.860 The problem is the following.
00:10:45.340 Tom, here's the question I got for you.
00:10:47.240 What major investor influencer that people respect is siding with Sam Altman?
00:10:53.040 Who, who is the person that's defending him?
00:10:55.780 I'm not seeing it.
00:10:56.940 I mean, CNBC, Microsoft, cause they own it.
00:10:59.140 But outside of that, I'm saying what other, Microsoft is involved with open AI.
00:11:03.440 If I'm not mistaken, I'm talking about what major mainstream critic is sitting out there saying, oh, Sam Altman's a good guy.
00:11:11.300 They're doing the right thing.
00:11:12.260 Who's who's on his side?
00:11:14.240 I'm I haven't seen one.
00:11:16.480 I'm not seeing it.
00:11:17.800 Can't go like that for too long.
00:11:20.220 You know, it's kind of like, you know, what open eyes reminded me of open eyes, kind of like what Israel's going through.
00:11:27.820 Open eyes losing the propaganda war.
00:11:29.980 And guess what?
00:11:30.860 People don't like you.
00:11:31.720 they're not liking what you're doing
00:11:33.840 and you can sit there and do whatever you want
00:11:35.920 and act like you're all high and mighty 0.97
00:11:37.420 and keep talking trash to Elon
00:11:39.180 people like Elon 0.82
00:11:40.760 and people don't like you
00:11:43.200 so then the question becomes
00:11:44.760 no major tech CEO or companies
00:11:47.740 has loudly backed Altman Open AI
00:11:50.240 in specific disputes
00:11:51.460 that's not good
00:11:53.160 that's not good
00:11:55.000 you have to be good at building relationships
00:11:57.480 behind closed doors
00:11:58.800 for people to defend you
00:12:00.380 that's horrible
00:12:02.460 So that means it's kind of like I work at a place,
00:12:06.560 and let's just say something happens, I leave.
00:12:08.480 No one at the previous company is willing to vouch for me.
00:12:11.020 They don't like me.
00:12:12.160 That's not a good thing for you to do.
00:12:14.140 And the only people do are the people that are no longer at the company.
00:12:17.380 You have to have people that vouch for you,
00:12:19.580 but people to say, when I left the previous company and I started PHP,
00:12:23.580 there were a lot of people that were still friends with me.
00:12:26.060 I mean, I was like, hey, you don't have to worry about me taking clients,
00:12:28.280 me doing this, me doing this.
00:12:28.920 I never took a single person I left.
00:12:30.520 I'm like, hey, I'm just taking what I got here.
00:12:32.480 You guys keep the 7,000 clients.
00:12:34.260 We went and built our business.
00:12:35.860 Still, you met Jeff the other day, came to the house.
00:12:37.900 He was part of the company over there.
00:12:39.040 He was an enemy of mine.
00:12:40.840 So to me, I think Altman has to,
00:12:44.460 Altman has what some of these guys have,
00:12:47.340 which is they're not good with people.
00:12:49.300 They're so brilliant that they indirectly don't even know it.
00:12:52.600 They look down at people.
00:12:54.620 Altman needs to go read How to Win Friends and Influence People 50 times.
00:12:59.260 Altman needs to go learn how to be better with people, not robots.
00:13:03.100 You can't befriend robots.
00:13:04.620 They're your slaves.
00:13:05.680 You have to befriend people, and he's not good at that.
00:13:08.860 So, Sam, if you're watching this, maybe go watch this one,
00:13:11.660 and there's another book that you may want to read as well.
00:13:13.440 Can you go to Power of Ethical Management?
00:13:15.480 I think the Power of Ethical Management is a good book recommendation for Sam Altman as well.
00:13:19.640 It's an oldie, but a goodie.
00:13:21.060 It's 96 pages, I think.
00:13:22.500 Maybe it's like 100 pages.
00:13:24.440 Yeah, can you go all the way to the bottom of how many pages it is
00:13:27.100 so he can finish it fairly in like a 30-minute sit-down.
00:13:29.460 What's the number of pages?
00:13:31.160 144 pages.
00:13:31.960 I was off by 50 pages.
00:13:32.920 Small book, good book, but The Power of Ethical Management.
00:13:35.560 The final thing here is like AI is getting a lot of pressure from the government,
00:13:39.500 and these guys are not dumb, and they move faster than the government.
00:13:42.640 Dean Ball started July 6th of this month with OpenAI.
00:13:49.800 You know who he was from?
00:13:51.500 Where?
00:13:51.780 He was a White House AI advisor and had a career in public policy.
00:13:54.960 So now they have a Washington guy on there as the head of strategic future at OpenAI.
00:14:00.640 And Meta hired Dina Powell-McCormick, which was Trump and George W. Bush advisor on economic policy, and brought him in January as president and vice chairman of Meta Superintelligence.
00:14:11.980 So they are also going out and getting soldiers from Washington to help them in the war when the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commissionā€”
00:14:19.200 You're saying OpenAI?
00:14:20.220 And Meta. Those were two key hires just this July.
00:14:23.220 Let me tell you, though, Tom, there's a big difference.
00:14:25.860 Who did you just hear right now going out there and talking about how amazing of a person he is?
00:14:29.860 What clip did I just play of a guy that's loved and respected that just edified Mark Zuckerberg for a good minute?
00:14:37.420 Dana White.
00:14:38.660 Sam Altman has to go find three Dana Whites and put them on his board ASAP.
00:14:43.340 He has to do that ASAP.
00:14:47.240 ASAP.
00:14:48.040 And pay big money for those people to be sitting on your board and people with high Q scores.
00:14:52.660 He has to get some people like that and desperately give them stocks,
00:14:56.720 options, shares, whatever it is to have a big upside.
00:14:59.760 He's got to go find three people like that.
00:15:01.240 Can you go a little bit lower of Dana?
00:15:02.720 Go a little bit lower of Dana.
00:15:03.680 And you see the pictures that it shows on the bottom right?
00:15:05.480 Keep going, keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower,
00:15:07.320 keep going lower.
00:15:08.000 Okay, click on Joe Rogan real quick.
00:15:10.080 Click on Rogan real quick.
00:15:11.180 Just click on Rogan real quick.
00:15:13.280 I'm sorry, go back and click on see more.
00:15:16.240 Right there, see more, see more.
00:15:18.180 Right there.
00:15:19.560 Click on that.
00:15:20.180 get somebody
00:15:22.060 keep going left
00:15:23.040 keep going left
00:15:23.760 keep going left
00:15:24.280 keep going left
00:15:24.920 yeah you gotta get
00:15:27.360 somebody that's
00:15:28.180 you gotta get like a
00:15:29.500 get Mr. Beast
00:15:30.900 and give him a billion dollars
00:15:32.320 get Mr. Beast 0.98
00:15:34.380 and give him a billion dollars 0.59
00:15:35.440 in shares to sit on the board
00:15:36.600 I'm being serious by the way
00:15:37.700 I'm actually not
00:15:38.480 you know
00:15:39.620 go get
00:15:40.520 look what sports
00:15:41.580 you know who's one of the people
00:15:42.400 that's brought a lot of eyeballs
00:15:43.360 to the entire World Cup
00:15:44.340 you know who
00:15:44.880 I show speed
00:15:46.040 yeah
00:15:46.640 have you seen how he's crying
00:15:48.200 with Ronaldo
00:15:48.800 hey please
00:15:49.500 Let me, Lamal, I need you to beat Messi.
00:15:52.060 Boom.
00:15:52.540 He posted a clip yesterday.
00:15:54.240 iShowSpeed posted a clip yesterday at the Argentina game.
00:15:58.200 Do you know how many views this clip got?
00:15:59.820 Let me tell you, Vinny, you're not going to believe how many clips this thing got.
00:16:02.120 On YouTube?
00:16:02.860 On Instagram.
00:16:04.200 Okay.
00:16:04.700 iShowSpeed posts a video.
00:16:08.080 iShowSpeed posts a video begging Lamine Lamal to beat Messi.
00:16:14.360 And this is 17 hours ago.
00:16:16.200 Do you know how many views it got?
00:16:17.660 I just want you to tell the people how many views it got.
00:16:20.400 5.9 million.
00:16:21.420 Oh, 118 million views.
00:16:24.180 In how many minutes?
00:16:25.580 In how many hours?
00:16:26.740 Can you tell me in how many hours?
00:16:29.880 17 hours.
00:16:30.720 So tell me who can get that kind of views.
00:16:32.300 First one right there.
00:16:33.080 Watch this.
00:16:34.560 That thing got 117, 18 million views.
00:16:38.920 In 17 hours.
00:16:40.240 Okay, so pause it right there.
00:16:41.280 I think OpenAI needs to offer Mr. Beast a five-year, $1 billion comp
00:16:47.380 to just sit on the board and get two other guys like that.
00:16:50.340 Because Mr. Beast has got a good following.
00:16:51.980 He's got to get some people like that.
00:16:54.040 He's got to get some people like Dana White,
00:16:55.760 some major, major power players that have credibility.
00:16:59.080 And now the question becomes, should Mr. Beast accept it?
00:17:02.220 Because that's a whole different conversation.
00:17:04.240 Anyways, let's go to the next story.
00:17:06.160 Yes.
00:17:07.740 Oh, no, you want to move on?
00:17:08.720 I just had a quick point.
00:17:10.400 Look, I saw Zuckerberg at the UFC fight.
00:17:12.640 The guy, we're giving him a little too much credit.
00:17:15.300 This guy is just finding out that he's a human.
00:17:18.080 Like, Mark Zuckerberg was an alien slash robot for 20 years,
00:17:23.200 and all of a sudden, he's becoming cool.
00:17:25.860 What's my point with Sam Altman?
00:17:27.140 This guy's been famous for what, three years, four years?
00:17:31.040 I show speed is a marketing genius.
00:17:34.120 Sam Altman is an actual genius.
00:17:36.500 He's just an introverted nerd like all these Silicon Valley guys.
00:17:39.900 So eventually, yes, I do think he needs to get the times and get someone in there.
00:17:44.100 What's your point?
00:17:44.620 They were being a little hard on this guy for being an actual genius nerd
00:17:48.140 when they're all like that.
00:17:51.120 That was your point?
00:17:52.140 You paused and to make that point, Adam.
00:17:55.540 This guy said, let me ask you a question.
00:17:57.340 Let me ask you a question.
00:17:59.020 Is Jeff Bezos a nerd?
00:18:01.920 Yeah, and it took him 30 years to actually try to become cool.
00:18:04.780 Oh, no, you don't understand.
00:18:05.860 This guy is hated by all the nerds right now.
00:18:08.760 all of them including tim cook he's hated by bezos lunch by cook maybe it's because he's
00:18:14.680 beating them he's not beating them though he's not he's lost market share to anthropic more than
00:18:18.400 you would know if you go look at what's going on with anthropic right now anthropic is taking
00:18:22.180 his lunch they used to be at 80 90 of the llm business they're not anymore people don't like
00:18:28.520 this guy you can't move up without being liked and having some people skills no he is you know
00:18:35.760 whose vibe he's giving me uh he's giving me vibes of sbf when he was coming up and he thought his 0.94
00:18:44.780 shit didn't stink that's the vibes he's giving me not not the not the criminal stuff i'm not i'm not 0.94
00:18:50.460 going on the finance i'm not going from that just a vibe of let me tell you who i am i don't know 0.97
00:18:55.480 i think he's got to make some adjustments that's my thoughts let's go to the next can i make a
00:18:58.460 final point for you that's on this yep so i show speed 110 million views in 24 hours yep
00:19:05.580 You know what the record is for Taylor Swift downloads
00:19:08.120 in the first 24 hours of any song?
00:19:10.380 Tell me, Tom.
00:19:11.040 $30 million for Ophelia.
00:19:13.860 Let's put that in perspective.
00:19:15.300 To your point, this guy should be big money somewhere.
00:19:18.400 Yeah, yeah.
00:19:18.780 No, and to me, it's just,
00:19:21.160 and the only reason I showed I show speed is not complimenting him.
00:19:25.800 It's complimenting SportsCenter, ESPN, FIFA,
00:19:28.580 that they're using this guy to bring eyeballs to it.
00:19:31.180 It's a smart move. 0.99
00:19:32.780 OpenAI needs to go get some guys like Dana White.
00:19:35.720 That was a point I was making.
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