Valuetainment - April 17, 2025


“Iran’s Last Chance” – Trump’s FINAL Warning Amid EXPLOSIVE Nuclear Deal Negotiations


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

203.31367

Word Count

3,575

Sentence Count

384

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Trump and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arochi held their first face-to-face talks since the Obama era, with the White House saying, "Special Envoy Steve Witkoff's direct communication ... was a step forward in achieving a mutual beneficial outcome."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Iran and U.S. envoys hold first negotiation over Tehran's nuclear program and talk face-to-face, okay?
00:00:09.500 Rob, if you've got a clip on this, U.S. Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian foreign minister Abbas Arochie held the first face-to-face talks since the Obama era with the White House stating,
00:00:25.940 Special Envoy Witkoff's direct communication today was a step forward in achieving a mutual beneficial outcome.
00:00:31.460 Trump's commented on Air Force One. Is this the one that you have, Rob?
00:00:34.580 Yes, I have two. I have President Trump and then I also have Pete Hegseth discussing what would happen if they don't come to a deal.
00:00:40.620 Go to Trump first and then we'll go to Hegseth. Go for it.
00:00:43.220 You can't have nuclear weapons. And I think they're tapping us along because they were so used to dealing with stupid people in this country.
00:00:50.600 And I had Iran perfect. You had no attacks. You would have never had October 7th in Israel, the attack by Hamas, because Iran was broke.
00:01:02.120 It was stone cold broke when I was President. And I don't want to do that. I want them to be a rich, great nation.
00:01:07.660 The only thing is, one thing, simple. It's really simple. They can't have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:11.800 And they've got to go fast. Because they're fairly close to having one. And they're not going to have one.
00:01:20.780 And if we have to do something very harsh, we'll do it. And I'm not doing it for us. I'm doing it for the world.
00:01:27.380 And these are radicalized people. And they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:33.040 Eric, thoughts?
00:01:34.680 I think he's being very nice. I think Iran is a state sponsor of terror. They've always been.
00:01:39.160 And they will never not be. I think he's right. October 7th wouldn't have happened if Trump were president.
00:01:46.580 I don't think Russia would have attacked Ukraine if Trump were president.
00:01:50.560 I don't. Yes. Try and prohibit them from getting a nuclear weapon at all costs.
00:01:56.320 I'm not sure it's going to happen. But I think the smarter thing to do is continue the massive sanctions on that country until they.
00:02:03.280 I don't know, Patrick. They're run by religious fanatics. And they hate the West. And they hate everything we're about.
00:02:11.540 I don't think there's any changing their mind. And it's certainly not in our lifetime.
00:02:15.620 I think a tough hand with Iran is better than trying to negotiate with them.
00:02:20.000 Here's Exit. And then, Chris, I'll come to you. Go ahead, Rob.
00:02:22.040 We've had direct talks yesterday. They began in the past. It's been indirect talks with a mediator.
00:02:28.920 But there's Steve Whitcoff meeting with the foreign minister of Iran. What can you tell us?
00:02:33.100 Well, I can tell you that President Trump is dead serious on this issue.
00:02:37.080 He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. He's said that for 20 years.
00:02:42.500 He's been consistent. That is clear. He's dead serious that he wants it done at the negotiating table.
00:02:47.980 He wants it done peacefully. And that's why he's going straight to these talks. He set that deadline.
00:02:53.020 These were productive talks yesterday. I don't want to get ahead of our skis.
00:02:56.240 Steve Whitcoff does a fantastic job. But it was a good step.
00:02:59.300 And they're going to go at it again on Saturday.
00:03:01.620 But he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this out at the negotiating table,
00:03:05.220 then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb.
00:03:10.620 We hope we never get there. We really do, Maria.
00:03:12.680 But what we're doing with the Houthis and what we're doing in the region, we've shown a capability to go far, to go deep and to go big.
00:03:20.340 And again, we don't want to do that. But if we have to, we will to prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hands.
00:03:26.060 Amen, brother.
00:03:27.520 Chris, one half thoughts on this, but well, let's do this.
00:03:32.900 You have a different set of perspectives. I want to hear it first, then I'll tell you.
00:03:38.680 Okay. For me with this, obviously, right now, everybody is thinking.
00:03:45.280 Remember how I said the whole thing with negotiating with China?
00:03:48.340 Okay, here's the terms. This is how it's going to work.
00:03:51.180 You're going to do this, and we're going to agree to this.
00:03:53.320 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. You're going to do this, and we're going to do this.
00:03:56.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And you're going to do this, and we're going to do this.
00:03:58.560 Oh, for sure, absolutely. All right, here's a deal. Let's sign. And we leave.
00:04:02.560 We hold our end of the bargain. You don't hold your...
00:04:05.040 You think Iran doesn't already have one, if not close to it?
00:04:08.700 If you don't think they have one, or they're not close to it, you're part of the naive community.
00:04:14.300 Of course they have it.
00:04:15.800 They're saying the number they were looking at was the limit set.
00:04:19.840 Rob, if you can pull up the limit set for nuclear negotiation with Iran, it's at 3.67%.
00:04:24.800 I think it's the number for enriching uranium. They're at 60%.
00:04:28.980 Okay, and the negotiation was at 3.67%. Over the last 15 years, Iran would reduce the stockpile of low enriching uranium by 97%.
00:04:36.480 They haven't. They're not listening to you.
00:04:38.520 So, well, maybe they're taking time because they really want to negotiate this.
00:04:41.840 Khamenei said, I'm neither overly optimistic, neither pessimistic.
00:04:47.940 So here's the reality of it. Let's just say you do deal with them.
00:04:52.560 How are you going to hold them accountable that they're not doing it?
00:04:54.920 Let's actually find that part out. Okay, yeah, we're not building a nuclear weapon.
00:04:58.780 How do you know? How do you audit them? How do you find out?
00:05:01.920 Remember, we tried to do that with them once.
00:05:03.560 How do you do it with them?
00:05:04.100 They didn't let us. We had inspectors that were told to go in.
00:05:06.840 And they shut the door.
00:05:07.780 They shut the door. So how do we know anyways?
00:05:10.060 They don't. This isn't about negotiating with Iran.
00:05:12.120 This is about saying, cut the shit.
00:05:13.920 We put a second nuclear strike force in the region, sitting there right now.
00:05:19.120 We're going to show force and have them, I don't know.
00:05:22.040 I don't know, Pat. Maybe Israel goes in and does what they did in 1982 where we were playing games with Iran and Israel in the middle of the night when they wipes out their whole nuclear program.
00:05:31.840 Well, here's what happened. A lot of people that have foreign nationals, a lot of people that have folks living in Iran right now for deals, they're moving their folks out.
00:05:40.320 They're saying, come home. Whether it's Europe, Asia, Middle East, they're saying, come home.
00:05:45.920 Tensions are too high. They may be attacking the nuclear facility that they have. That threat is there.
00:05:50.480 The ships are already out there close to Iran anyway.
00:05:53.000 So it's like they're close enough to be able to say we can do something.
00:05:55.940 But it's one of two things.
00:05:59.360 Either you know they got a nuclear weapon.
00:06:02.260 You're not negotiating.
00:06:03.200 You just need this as an excuse to attack.
00:06:06.680 Either that's one, or two, you are naive and you believe they have nuclear weapons or getting close to it, and you're trying to find a way to negotiate with them to get something done.
00:06:19.880 I don't think that's the case.
00:06:21.800 So which one is it?
00:06:23.360 Are we opening up for Israel to do what they want to do?
00:06:26.720 Does Israel want to do something?
00:06:28.700 Would Israel like to attack their nuclear facilities?
00:06:30.800 Do you think Israel, as strong of an intelligence unit that they have, that they claim they have, that we've all seen it and read about it, do you think they already have some insiders that know exactly where the facilities are?
00:06:48.240 A hundred percent.
00:06:49.160 Very high.
00:06:49.660 Perfect.
00:06:50.040 I'm going a hundred percent. I know I'm not supposed to say it.
00:06:52.300 I'll take the over.
00:06:53.400 Yeah.
00:06:56.300 They know.
00:06:57.020 Okay.
00:06:57.680 So let's say we're sitting there saying they know.
00:07:00.800 All right.
00:07:01.820 Do you think Israel is going to wait on U.S.'s lead on how to negotiate this?
00:07:08.460 Or do you think Israel's reputation is they may be saying, let's put this out there, give us the permission to go in and do the job.
00:07:17.300 No, permission.
00:07:17.860 Give us the support.
00:07:19.140 Give us everything we need.
00:07:20.980 Just give us the wink.
00:07:22.500 We're not going to put your fingerprints on it.
00:07:24.360 We'll take care of it like we did.
00:07:26.080 Define support.
00:07:27.020 Define support.
00:07:27.620 Oh, and assets, intel, everything.
00:07:31.600 Whatever they need to get it done.
00:07:32.940 They're going to get the intel.
00:07:33.880 They already have the intel.
00:07:35.000 Okay.
00:07:35.480 So, yeah.
00:07:35.960 They already have the intel.
00:07:36.380 So this is all I would agree with.
00:07:38.360 If your thesis is or if your conclusion is that this is doing all the diplomatic steps that they need to take and then figure out the best.
00:07:48.560 The CIA can't do it.
00:07:50.000 They're too exposed right now.
00:07:51.700 If it happens, it would have to be through Israel.
00:07:54.020 Iran needs somebody to get behind because even with this, let's just say they do something.
00:07:59.480 Something happens to Khamenei.
00:08:00.760 Who's going to replace him?
00:08:01.960 Somebody else from the same exact regime.
00:08:03.920 So they need, like someone within Iran needs to step up or from the outside.
00:08:08.520 Someone with a strong backbone who wants the job, has to rally and win the people over.
00:08:14.180 Or someone needs to come to, a group of people need to come, like who were we talking to the other day?
00:08:20.320 Oh, J.D. Vance's brother was here yesterday.
00:08:23.440 And we're having a great time.
00:08:24.680 We're giving a tour of the property.
00:08:25.700 We wanted to see the place.
00:08:27.040 Corey, we're having a conversation together.
00:08:29.180 And they said for many, many years, the family was saying, J.D., you ought to run.
00:08:33.720 And J.D. didn't want to run.
00:08:34.880 But for many years, like, yeah, I'm just a business guy.
00:08:36.600 No, you ought to run.
00:08:37.280 You ought to run.
00:08:37.700 Finally, it's like, listen, I'm getting so much support that I'm running.
00:08:40.340 You know, sometimes guys, like, really, really want to run and you can feel the ambition.
00:08:44.340 Then there's the guys that don't want to run.
00:08:46.060 But you're the right guy for the job, right?
00:08:47.640 Okay.
00:08:48.560 Iran needs to get behind somebody to rally, to change the flipping climate that's in Iran.
00:08:54.460 FYI, if Iranians are watching this, you only have three and a half years left.
00:08:59.280 That's it.
00:09:00.560 You have three and a half years under him, Trump.
00:09:04.260 He's not going to do the job for you guys.
00:09:06.060 He said it on the podcast.
00:09:07.500 But the climate is ripe right now that if you guys do your part and you get behind somebody
00:09:12.960 and somebody with courage that's willing to come and do something in Iran, you guys have
00:09:16.580 a fighting chance right now.
00:09:18.280 Maybe you haven't had a chance like this.
00:09:21.400 You had a couple in the last 15, 20 years.
00:09:23.880 This is a chance for somebody in Iran to step up, a voice, or for you to rally behind to
00:09:30.220 say we want things to change.
00:09:32.000 President's not going to do it for you.
00:09:33.540 Trump's not going to do it for you.
00:09:34.940 Nobody else is going to do it for you.
00:09:36.440 It has to be internal.
00:09:37.420 If you get close to the finish line, then somebody can help you.
00:09:42.080 But you have to show that you're getting close to the finish line.
00:09:44.880 Nobody else is going to do that part.
00:09:46.560 You got to go that close to it.
00:09:48.160 Then if you do, then the other person is going to be like, great.
00:09:50.500 It shows that you're interested.
00:09:51.960 It shows that you're committed to it.
00:09:53.400 It shows you're willing to go through the pain.
00:09:55.100 But I think if Iran, similar story for me with China, the reason why I'm supported with
00:09:58.220 the tariff stuff that we're doing right now is because I know somebody else has to deal
00:10:01.700 with the tariffs with China in the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years.
00:10:04.000 You're not going to have another guy like Trump in a while.
00:10:07.900 You're not.
00:10:09.120 You got one right now.
00:10:10.460 And it's not, hey, come cause a war.
00:10:12.780 No.
00:10:13.320 Why don't you guys do something there to want to change the revolution?
00:10:16.520 Get up there again.
00:10:17.420 Start making some noise.
00:10:18.560 This is the time for Iranians to want to do it.
00:10:20.640 I don't say it's an easy thing.
00:10:21.940 I'm not sitting here saying, hey, how come you're not thinking about the livelihood of our
00:10:25.780 families and all this other stuff?
00:10:26.940 I don't say it's going to be easy.
00:10:28.080 All I'm saying to you is if you want Iran to change.
00:10:30.640 So when we think about the Middle East pre-79, the Middle East was pretty peaceful.
00:10:36.700 They didn't have a lot of issues in the Middle East pre-79, Khomeini coming in.
00:10:40.280 Ever since 79, Khomeini came in.
00:10:43.380 The Islamic Revolutionary Guard came in.
00:10:45.860 The Middle East has been in shambles.
00:10:47.720 Not Iran.
00:10:48.360 The Middle East has been in shambles since 79.
00:10:51.260 It's been 46 years now.
00:10:53.280 What if some of the folks out there start rallying behind some names?
00:10:56.900 We'd love to know some of these names.
00:10:58.120 Right now, if I told you who's the voice, who would you say?
00:11:01.220 We don't have a lot of names.
00:11:02.580 Who is it?
00:11:03.640 Who's going out there?
00:11:04.520 Who's holding meetings?
00:11:05.500 Who's going across out there at Dubai holding meetings with a lot of different leaderships
00:11:09.760 coming through?
00:11:10.480 Who's doing that?
00:11:11.360 I don't know.
00:11:11.820 I don't think a lot of it's happened or else the rest of the world will be talking about
00:11:14.640 it.
00:11:15.120 But I think Iran has a chance to do something with it right now.
00:11:17.740 And this discussion, I think at any point, if the speculation is that these guys, Israel,
00:11:22.880 is hoping to kind of like set it up for us to attack, at any point something can happen
00:11:27.360 there.
00:11:27.640 And I don't think it's going to be we're trying to negotiate a nuclear deal.
00:11:32.320 I don't think so.
00:11:33.140 That's my opinion.
00:11:33.820 I may be wrong.
00:11:34.560 That's where I'm at.
00:11:35.100 I mean, great.
00:11:37.180 It's just and again, we talked about it, what, two podcasts ago.
00:11:40.600 It's about the people.
00:11:41.820 And everybody's always talking about when we talk about we criticize Israel, you criticize
00:11:44.980 Iran.
00:11:45.820 It's not the people that are living there.
00:11:47.860 It's the government.
00:11:48.760 So for when you're saying like for people to step up, that's a really dangerous thing.
00:11:53.380 Like meaning, like imagine going against that government.
00:11:56.180 But I think it's a necessary thing.
00:11:58.020 Easier said than done because we're here and you guys are over there.
00:12:00.900 But it has to happen.
00:12:03.380 OK, I feel dude.
00:12:04.360 My mom and dad are from Iran.
00:12:06.360 Pat's from Iran.
00:12:08.040 I love like you guys already know how we feel about you guys.
00:12:10.760 But somebody, a movement, something has to spark or else it's never going to change.
00:12:15.820 And what a great freaking point, this bull that's in this matador Trump, he's who knows
00:12:20.920 what's after him.
00:12:21.920 But right now, right now is a thing.
00:12:23.940 And I just pray to God that, you know, you guys have the support and it'll come.
00:12:26.940 But you guys have to step it up.
00:12:28.060 It'll be nasty, though.
00:12:28.900 Oh, it's going to be ugly.
00:12:30.060 You probably have to lose one or two or more people.
00:12:32.720 Oh, for sure.
00:12:33.860 In Russia.
00:12:34.700 I mean, you go every day.
00:12:36.620 They lose them every day.
00:12:37.840 Last night I had Giselle Sharmad on.
00:12:40.500 Her father was stolen.
00:12:44.360 Falsely convicted.
00:12:45.820 Falsely tortured, executed.
00:12:50.020 Biden couldn't get him back.
00:12:51.620 Trump couldn't, wasn't, you know, wasn't here.
00:12:54.700 And they then sent the body back.
00:12:59.820 His tongue was cut out.
00:13:01.620 Parts of him are missing.
00:13:03.800 These are terrorists.
00:13:05.600 OK, so to Pat's point, can't be trusted.
00:13:09.120 I will say that political payback is sometimes gratuitous.
00:13:13.860 Leaving that deal was a mistake.
00:13:16.140 It was all you had.
00:13:17.880 And now you'll be lucky to get a deal that looks like that.
00:13:21.020 To your point, it probably won't be a deal at all.
00:13:23.980 You don't know any names because they'd be dead.
00:13:26.660 That's why you don't know any names about who may be bubbling up to have a populist revolt,
00:13:33.620 because this is an oppressive regime.
00:13:35.920 I don't know what the answer is.
00:13:39.460 Israel needs American support because they don't have the munitions that we call those
00:13:43.940 bunker busters to go deep enough to get where it has to go.
00:13:47.920 America has them.
00:13:48.840 So we would be involved militarily on it.
00:13:52.380 If you keep them from getting a nuke now, do you keep them from getting a nuke forever?
00:13:57.900 No.
00:13:58.900 There has to be regime change there.
00:14:01.540 And I don't think we know what to do.
00:14:05.360 I don't think Trump knows what to do.
00:14:08.240 I think talking can't hurt.
00:14:09.820 But to your point, they can't be trusted.
00:14:11.940 No way.
00:14:13.300 No way.
00:14:14.820 No.
00:14:15.080 I mean, look, I put Iran and China in the same place.
00:14:18.840 I put Iran and China in the same place.
00:14:20.100 We had Richard Warner the other day, and he's talking about the fact that, you know,
00:14:23.320 Deng Xiaoping, who was a guy back in the day who was a pragmatist, he went to Japan and
00:14:27.620 said, hey, I know we don't have the best relationship right now.
00:14:29.980 How did you kind of fix your economy?
00:14:31.600 And he says, hey, we've got 5,000 banks, 5 million loan officers doing 35 loan applications
00:14:36.520 per week.
00:14:37.780 What do you call it?
00:14:38.940 Deng comes back, starts working on the banks.
00:14:42.120 The economy changes.
00:14:42.840 Everything changes.
00:14:44.260 Xi is not Deng.
00:14:45.900 Deng is willing to go talk.
00:14:47.320 Xi is not that guy.
00:14:49.480 If Xi wants to do something with U.S., Xi would have come to U.S., sit down and have
00:14:52.960 a conversation with.
00:14:54.260 If we get that meeting taking place, okay, then maybe sentiment changes.
00:14:59.640 Situation changes.
00:15:00.880 But hey, if I'm Trump, you know what else I'm doing?
00:15:03.380 You want to kind of fix the tariff?
00:15:04.760 Allow all our social media companies into China.
00:15:06.620 Why are you worried about it?
00:15:08.140 Allow our social media companies into China.
00:15:09.740 Allow Facebook, Google, YouTube.
00:15:11.480 Allow all of us in China.
00:15:12.880 Why are you worried?
00:15:13.940 Let's kind of make this thing work.
00:15:15.180 It's not going to be happening.
00:15:15.940 So the way they're negotiating, there's a lot that can be done, but we'll see what's
00:15:20.860 going to happen.
00:15:20.980 I'd rather deal with China than Iran.
00:15:22.780 Yeah, me too.
00:15:23.660 Iran has absolutely no upside to the world.
00:15:26.100 No, China doesn't say death upon America.
00:15:28.820 China just doesn't like the Western ideas that we have, and they're still clinging on
00:15:32.660 to communism.
00:15:33.420 And the sanctions squeeze the people.
00:15:35.640 That's the one problem with the sanctions, is you squeeze the people.
00:15:39.460 Life becomes horrible for the people that you want to help.
00:15:41.500 Yes.
00:15:43.880 It's hard to do.
00:15:44.600 It's hard to do the right way.
00:15:45.820 A lot of you have been asking about the Cigar Lounge, that you want to come to it, and we've
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00:15:51.240 This last Friday was the biggest event we ever had at the Cigar Lounge, which was fantastic.
00:15:56.360 However, grand opening is this Thursday night.
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00:16:01.220 Thursday, we're not doing a podcast in a morning.
00:16:03.940 Thursday, we're doing a live podcast at our comedy club, at Cigar Lounge, $59.90 live.
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00:16:30.240 It's going to be a skeptic.
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00:16:35.020 The energy, the vibe, the announcements, different things that we do, and a lot of people networking
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00:16:41.040 The website, Rob, if we can give them the website so some of the folks on Spotify can
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