Valuetainment - August 27, 2025


＂Is Flag Burning Free Speech？＂ - Trump Threatens JAIL TIME For Protestors Who Burn The American Flag


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Length

13 minutes

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201.04004

Word Count

2,616

Sentence Count

249

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Trump Flag Burning Order Sparks Online Conservatives' Free Speech Debate. President Trump s new executive order targeting flag burning announced on Monday directs the Attorney General to prosecute violations of law involving flag desecration, and to pursue litigation that will clarify the scope of First Amendment as it relates to flag burning.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Trump flag-burning order sparks online conservatives' free speech debate, which totally makes sense.
00:00:07.640 President Trump's new executive order targeting flag-burning announced on Monday directs the Attorney General to prosecute violations of law involving flag desecration
00:00:16.760 and to pursue litigation that will clarify the scope of First Amendment as it relates to flag desecration.
00:00:22.820 Rob, do you want to play this clip with the president? They're going back and forth explaining it.
00:00:25.860 Lastly, sir, this is an executive order on flag-burning. It charges your attorney general.
00:00:30.960 Would you listen to this? This is very important. Flag-burning. All over the country, they're burning flags.
00:00:37.180 All over the world, they burn the American flag. And as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a five-to-four decision,
00:00:46.540 they called it freedom of speech. But there's another reason which is perhaps much more important.
00:00:51.400 It's called death. Because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy.
00:00:58.420 If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy. You could do other things. You can burn this piece of paper.
00:01:03.500 You can... And it's... But when you burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've never seen before.
00:01:11.540 People go crazy. In a way, both ways. There are some that are going crazy for doing it.
00:01:17.240 There are others that are angry, angry about them doing it. Do you want to discuss that?
00:01:23.400 Sure. What the executive order does, sir, it charges your Department of Justice with investigating instances of flag-burning.
00:01:29.400 And then where there's evidence of criminal activity, where prosecution wouldn't fall afoul of the First Amendment
00:01:36.300 and instructs the Department of Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances of flag-burning.
00:01:42.080 And what the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail.
00:01:48.680 No early exits, no nothing. You get one year in jail. If you burn a flag, you get...
00:01:53.940 You can pause it right there.
00:01:54.540 And what it does is...
00:01:55.860 So you get one year in jail. Tom, Adam and Vinny, you guys got some thoughts on this.
00:01:59.840 Vinny, I'm going to come to you first.
00:02:00.700 Yeah, Rob, I sent you a video of one of my good friends who I kind of agree with her.
00:02:06.000 But when people say burning a flag in free speech, I know it's protected under the Constitution,
00:02:10.300 but they're twisting what free speech actually is.
00:02:13.400 Free speech is talking, writing, protesting, holding a sign, which a lot of people love holding a sign.
00:02:20.000 The second you light something in fire in public, it's actually illegal.
00:02:23.980 The majority of the United States, in the United States, if you don't have a permit to burn something out in public,
00:02:30.240 if it's not a pit, if it's not a controlled fire, it's illegal.
00:02:34.760 Plain and simple.
00:02:35.400 You can't light a bonfire, you can't start a freaking fire in the middle of the street
00:02:38.700 and start grilling meat in the middle of the street.
00:02:41.000 I'm being technical right now, okay?
00:02:42.920 So why the hell should burning a flag and these people get a free pass?
00:02:45.840 And don't forget, bro, our flag, and this is my opinion, you can say whatever the hell you want,
00:02:50.140 it's not just a piece of fabric, okay?
00:02:53.700 It's draped over freaking coffins of soldiers who go overseas and fight for the country, okay?
00:02:59.560 They're folded, they're given to freaking families of veterans who get freaking killed for this country.
00:03:05.360 I know what people are going to say, yeah, but they're over there fighting for the right,
00:03:07.360 for the person to come and burn it.
00:03:08.720 You know what the hell you're doing.
00:03:10.000 And Rob, you know who I, I never thought I'd say this in public or live on air,
00:03:14.400 you know who I agree with and whose side I take on this whole thing?
00:03:17.300 Hillary Clinton.
00:03:18.580 Hillary Clinton, one of my best friends.
00:03:20.640 She actually said, you know what Hillary said back in the day in Congress?
00:03:25.080 Rob, can you play that video of Hillary and what she said about flag burning?
00:03:28.700 This is the first time I agree with her about anything.
00:03:31.260 So I hope, Mr. President, that we can pass a law that criminalizes flag burning and desecration.
00:03:38.040 And I agree that this burning, this desecration that can happen to our flag
00:03:45.260 is something that people have a right to ask this body to try to prohibit and prevent it.
00:03:51.860 So I'm going old school Hillary, Pat.
00:03:53.640 I'm just like something bothers me inside when I see that happening.
00:03:57.540 Other people, other countries, whatever, burn, do whatever the hell you want on another country.
00:04:01.420 But when it happens here, it really pisses me off.
00:04:03.240 Free speech, say whatever you want, hold whatever sign.
00:04:05.780 When it comes to the flag, I'm anti-burning the flag.
00:04:08.340 Adam, where are you at?
00:04:09.560 Well, burning the flag should be legal, but it should be a death sentence for the rest of your life.
00:04:16.440 What do I mean?
00:04:17.820 Under the First Amendment, you do have freedom of speech.
00:04:21.480 I think there was a Supreme Court ruling that five to four, which Trump mentioned,
00:04:24.600 that you can burn the flag.
00:04:26.280 However, you know how if you go for a job interview and they're like, scrub your social media.
00:04:31.360 Oh, this is what this person did.
00:04:32.740 He said, anyone who burns the American flag, it should be on their resume and on their record forever.
00:04:38.560 So you want to apply for this job.
00:04:41.140 You burnt the American flag, Bill.
00:04:43.400 What were you?
00:04:44.500 Yeah, it was a bad date.
00:04:45.800 Yeah, you're out.
00:04:47.040 You want to go for a loan at the bank?
00:04:50.640 Sorry, Carl, you burnt the flag.
00:04:52.600 But yeah, you're not going to, this isn't going to happen.
00:04:54.580 You go to court, you go to the mall.
00:04:56.280 You should be shamed until infinity.
00:04:58.320 There's three types of people that I think burn the flag.
00:05:01.060 There's just radical leftists, radical leftists.
00:05:04.600 We know what they are.
00:05:05.540 They're usually doing this.
00:05:06.540 There's foreign enemies.
00:05:07.660 We see what happens in Iran.
00:05:08.800 What do they always yell?
00:05:10.020 Magba, America.
00:05:10.900 Magba, America.
00:05:11.700 Okay.
00:05:12.220 And then there's anti-war activists.
00:05:14.380 Here's my only problem with the anti-war activists.
00:05:16.620 If the only war in the history of your life you've ever protested against is Israel,
00:05:23.900 you probably aren't anti-war.
00:05:26.140 You probably just hate Israel.
00:05:27.140 So these are the types of people that burn the flag.
00:05:29.960 Tom, any thoughts?
00:05:31.060 Yes.
00:05:31.740 So I have to listen carefully to what the president said.
00:05:34.360 First of all, I will tell you, the price of, and I've said this before,
00:05:39.320 the price of free speech is free speech.
00:05:42.160 You may not like what the other guy says, but that's the price of free speech.
00:05:46.460 Now then, line, where's the line?
00:05:49.320 The president used the word inciting.
00:05:52.560 Inciting riots is against the law.
00:05:55.120 You cannot incite riots.
00:05:56.720 You can have a demonstration.
00:05:57.940 You can protest a war.
00:05:59.060 You can protest a lot of things.
00:06:00.280 You can get a permit even at the University of Alabama and say you want to protest Israel.
00:06:05.960 And you can have a lot of people surround you and suddenly realize that you're outnumbered
00:06:08.860 and maybe call off your protest.
00:06:10.360 That's free speech.
00:06:11.380 And that's also public discourse coming back to talk to you.
00:06:14.740 But the president was saying about inciting riots and then asking the Justice Department to investigate to see,
00:06:24.000 were you desecrating the flag to incite a riot?
00:06:27.020 If you are, guess what?
00:06:29.480 That's we're not going to stand for that.
00:06:31.380 And the one year in jail, I want to see how this shakes out because I think you have free speech, but then you have inciting riots and then you have going over that edge of the desecration, which incites the riots.
00:06:43.040 And so it's like, hey, you went out there to have a demonstration, you burnt the flag, you incited a riot, and you got your butt kicked.
00:06:49.440 And guess what?
00:06:50.460 Sorry.
00:06:51.200 You know, you're going to get one year.
00:06:52.280 I want to see it play out.
00:06:53.500 But there's some logic that goes behind this and a lot of precedents that the president is pointing to.
00:06:59.260 And thank you so much for the clip that Hillary Clinton seems to agree.
00:07:03.580 What did she use the word?
00:07:05.940 Desecration.
00:07:06.620 Isn't that interesting?
00:07:07.560 Yeah.
00:07:07.840 I mean, look, to me, it's very simple.
00:07:10.800 If you don't love the country, you have other options.
00:07:13.900 Go somewhere where you have pride.
00:07:15.420 I love America.
00:07:17.080 I served for this country because I love this place.
00:07:20.940 This is a special place.
00:07:22.480 It's the greatest country in the world.
00:07:24.340 The Turning Point USA guys do a great job.
00:07:26.080 One of the guys goes out there asking these college students, I don't know if you've seen this, this just came out.
00:07:31.440 Rob, can you play this clip?
00:07:32.660 This defines my views of when they say it's America the greatest country in the world.
00:07:37.280 And then when the option is given, look how they respond.
00:07:39.860 Go ahead, Rob.
00:07:40.720 America the greatest country in the world?
00:07:43.160 No.
00:07:43.480 If you were offered a one-way ticket to leave the country, never come back, but it's all expenses paid, would you accept that offer?
00:07:53.860 I don't see her.
00:07:54.500 I don't think that I would leave.
00:07:58.600 I wouldn't leave either.
00:07:59.620 Oh, really?
00:08:00.120 Is America the real leader?
00:08:01.580 Exactly.
00:08:02.060 But that's the point, though.
00:08:03.760 Everybody talks a lot of shit until eventually you're faced with a decision that's like, no, no, no.
00:08:08.520 Yeah.
00:08:08.840 I wouldn't leave.
00:08:09.800 I wouldn't go anywhere.
00:08:11.020 Our, not limo driver, limo driver, but people haven't used that phrase for a word.
00:08:14.440 Our Uber driver.
00:08:14.760 Limo.
00:08:15.080 Our.
00:08:16.160 You're talking about in L.A.?
00:08:17.600 Our Filipino Uber driver.
00:08:19.220 Oh, yeah.
00:08:19.460 Where will we ride?
00:08:20.340 We're in L.A.
00:08:20.960 We were in L.A.
00:08:21.380 We were on our way to Raffi's.
00:08:23.140 We're driving around, and this guy's just like, we're having a conversation.
00:08:26.220 And by the way, the Jubilee interview that's coming out this Sunday, we're having a conversation.
00:08:29.640 It's like, da, da, da, da.
00:08:30.760 No, I don't.
00:08:31.300 I won't.
00:08:31.740 I would take the money.
00:08:32.740 I would leave.
00:08:33.480 I won't.
00:08:33.800 Why are you in America?
00:08:35.180 Because, you know, it's not as bad.
00:08:36.500 You think it's a great country?
00:08:37.900 And just listen to this guy.
00:08:39.960 Then just leave.
00:08:40.860 So if you want to burn the flag, I don't feel comfortable about it.
00:08:44.100 By the way, other countries.
00:08:45.220 China, if you burn the flag.
00:08:46.840 Three years in prison.
00:08:48.080 Russia, fines or prison.
00:08:49.740 India, prevention of insults to national honor.
00:08:53.100 It's illegal.
00:08:53.980 You can't do it.
00:08:55.000 Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries, strict bans, heavy penalties.
00:08:59.600 Turkey, prison sentence or for insulting the national flag.
00:09:03.000 Mexico.
00:09:03.700 Mexico.
00:09:04.740 Up to four years.
00:09:06.260 Okay?
00:09:07.080 So then you go Singapore, Malaysia, strong bans.
00:09:09.360 There's a lot of different countries that have different laws for this.
00:09:12.580 I'm glad America is finally putting it in place as well.
00:09:15.360 But it is not a popular decision to make.
00:09:18.480 And for those who don't support it, I get your argument as well.
00:09:21.480 This is my line.
00:09:22.940 Don't burn the flag.
00:09:23.920 If you don't like it, go elsewhere.
00:09:25.180 I love those other countries.
00:09:26.400 It says, don't even insult the flag.
00:09:29.000 Yeah.
00:09:29.320 If you even do, you're going places.
00:09:32.180 Never mind burn it.
00:09:33.180 You insult the flag.
00:09:33.960 In certain countries, you can't burn the flag, but you can burn people.
00:09:37.820 Yeah, it's totally cool.
00:09:38.480 If you're an apostate.
00:09:40.380 You know what's interesting?
00:09:41.640 This is what I've seen with, you know, because I do my American flag thing and walk around
00:09:45.800 and give the people.
00:09:46.260 You know what I've realized?
00:09:47.320 Everyone who hates America, everyone who basically has a massive distaste for America,
00:09:52.520 they're always comparing America to utopia.
00:09:55.660 Well, we're not the greatest country in the world.
00:09:58.040 And any time you give them a, all right, if not option A, option B, and option B is any
00:10:03.220 other country, they never pick the other country.
00:10:05.840 Yeah.
00:10:06.040 Because there's no perfect country.
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