Valuetainment - October 06, 2025


＂Is That An EXIT Wound？＂ - Eric Trump PRESSED On Charlie Kirk Shooting Story & Conspirators


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

231.71158

Word Count

2,875

Sentence Count

213

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Join us as we remember the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk. We talk about his life, his impact on the world, and what we can learn from his death. Thank you to all of the many people who shared their thoughts and prayers with Charlie's family and friends.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're talking about Charlie Kirk.
00:00:01.220 So for you, do you remember where you were
00:00:04.100 when you heard the news that Charlie Kirk was assassinated?
00:00:07.220 I was walking to my office.
00:00:08.800 I was literally walking to my office,
00:00:10.320 and the same person that I just mentioned a second ago, Kim,
00:00:12.780 came running up to me.
00:00:13.480 She goes, Charlie was just shot.
00:00:15.240 And literally, for me, it was deja vu to Butler, right?
00:00:17.380 I mean, it was like I was watching that exact same TV
00:00:20.200 at the exact same time, you know,
00:00:22.480 watching the same thing almost happen to somebody I loved dearly.
00:00:26.040 And I loved Charlie dearly.
00:00:27.040 I mean, Charlie was a dear friend.
00:00:27.880 I was on the stage with him all the time.
00:00:29.120 And, you know, he was an amazing person.
00:00:31.720 In fact, I was just speaking to Erica last night.
00:00:33.960 But no, listen, they want to take away our voice.
00:00:36.740 That was our whole plan, guys.
00:00:38.020 I mean, you know, if you take away the voice,
00:00:40.540 the movement doesn't continue to happen.
00:00:43.280 What actually happened was the exact opposite of that.
00:00:45.840 They thought they could cut the head off of kind of the tiger,
00:00:48.500 but the tiger actually got bigger, and it got stronger,
00:00:51.060 and it got louder, and it went from being a movement of youth
00:00:55.260 in this country to being a movement of everybody
00:00:57.620 all around the world who saw them for not being the tolerant people
00:01:01.940 that they had always claimed to be,
00:01:03.640 saw them for actually being incredibly intolerant,
00:01:06.380 you know, as we've seen over and over and over again.
00:01:08.460 They didn't want me on this stage.
00:01:09.520 You think they want you on that stage?
00:01:10.760 They don't want you on that stage.
00:01:12.280 They don't want any independent voice
00:01:14.020 that can't be controlled using big corporate kind of, you know,
00:01:17.780 they don't want us out there because they can't control you,
00:01:19.940 and they can't control me,
00:01:20.800 and they can't control any of you guys, right?
00:01:23.500 And that's why they take the shots.
00:01:25.400 They call us fascists, yet they dress in black,
00:01:28.280 and they stand on roofs with sniper rifles
00:01:31.220 and shoot over the heads of college kids
00:01:34.080 who are out there, you know,
00:01:36.140 talking about the greatness of America.
00:01:38.360 We're the fascists?
00:01:39.820 It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
00:01:41.120 How do you process today
00:01:44.840 when you're hearing the online narrative, right,
00:01:48.180 where people are sitting there saying,
00:01:49.340 what happened here?
00:01:50.580 Who took him out?
00:01:51.340 All these questions, the shot, you know,
00:01:53.020 you're somebody that's gone hunting before.
00:01:55.240 You know, this doesn't look like an entry wound.
00:01:57.040 It looks like a exit wound where it's the, you know,
00:01:59.500 we've all seen the clip that we don't want to see.
00:02:02.100 How do you process it yourself?
00:02:03.680 We're wanting to get to the bottom of it.
00:02:04.900 Do you think Tyler was the shooter?
00:02:08.100 Listen, here's what I can tell you.
00:02:09.320 I know Dan Bongino.
00:02:10.220 No, I've known Dan Bongino for 20 years.
00:02:12.880 And man, is he a good American, right?
00:02:14.380 And a guy who does not put up with nonsense, right?
00:02:16.540 Like, you know, I've known Cash for a very long time.
00:02:19.620 I've been on the same stage as Cash 1,000 times
00:02:21.840 and Cash has a heart of gold
00:02:22.880 and he's a good American
00:02:24.200 and he does not put up with nonsense, right?
00:02:26.060 It's very different than the last, you know,
00:02:27.560 administration where every single person
00:02:30.060 in the administration was some DEI pick, right?
00:02:32.260 You had Pete Buttigieg who would, you know,
00:02:34.680 run a small town.
00:02:35.480 All of a sudden he happened to be transportation secretary.
00:02:38.220 And, you know, during COVID
00:02:39.260 when none of the ships are coming into our ports
00:02:41.100 and there's no two-by-four at Home Depot,
00:02:44.200 guess what the guy does?
00:02:44.920 He takes paternity leave, right?
00:02:46.180 Like, that's not this administration.
00:02:48.220 It's the exact opposite of who these people are.
00:02:50.560 And so I think I'd be asking probably a lot of questions
00:02:53.220 if I didn't know the individuals
00:02:55.020 at the tip of the spear incredibly well
00:02:57.280 and have tremendous, tremendous faith.
00:03:00.360 I mean, there's a lot of questions
00:03:01.540 that people are asking.
00:03:02.300 There's no question about it.
00:03:04.080 But those guys are the greatest people you'll ever meet.
00:03:08.040 And I'm telling you, if there is funny business,
00:03:09.860 they'll get to the bottom of it
00:03:10.780 and they'll be honest and transparent about it.
00:03:13.340 Yeah, I don't think it's the funny part of it.
00:03:15.940 But do you, like, this is what people are saying.
00:03:18.180 I'm curious how you process it
00:03:19.220 because you probably watch what the market is saying.
00:03:21.160 So the other day we're sitting,
00:03:22.880 we're just doing a regular podcast
00:03:23.960 and then I'm asking the guys a question.
00:03:25.600 I said, so how long did it take for them to,
00:03:27.320 you know, make sure the site's protected
00:03:30.040 so nobody can come in, you can study things,
00:03:32.700 you can see what's going on.
00:03:33.620 Just a couple of days.
00:03:35.440 And you go look at some of the other sites
00:03:36.920 that took place in the past,
00:03:38.040 whether it was an assassination, different events, boom.
00:03:40.520 One month, four weeks, two weeks, three weeks,
00:03:43.100 two months, some of them.
00:03:44.460 So there's a part of it where we're like,
00:03:45.800 this was very quick.
00:03:47.480 And then you hear the school
00:03:48.820 that's doing construction on that site.
00:03:51.380 Everybody online is asking what happened here.
00:03:55.260 Do you yourself, I know you're on the inside,
00:03:57.860 you're part of the family.
00:03:58.600 Do you sit there and say,
00:03:59.740 I'm actually curious to know what happened here.
00:04:01.060 You know, what's kind of interesting about life
00:04:02.920 is a lot of the conspiracy theories, right?
00:04:05.220 They've labeled all of us conspiracy theorists.
00:04:07.520 And then so oftentimes they come true, right?
00:04:09.800 You know, I mean, how often through the course
00:04:12.320 did we say something was bogus
00:04:14.440 and then all of a sudden we were, you know,
00:04:15.900 we were fringed, right?
00:04:17.520 And, you know, and all of a sudden it worked.
00:04:19.240 I mean, like COVID was the greatest example of that.
00:04:21.600 My father went out and said,
00:04:22.540 hey, maybe hydroxychloroquine works.
00:04:24.760 How dare you?
00:04:25.620 How dare you?
00:04:26.560 He's a radical.
00:04:27.180 He doesn't know anything about medicine.
00:04:28.740 Then sure enough, you know,
00:04:29.320 hydroxychloroquine works, right?
00:04:30.400 There's a thousand of those that,
00:04:32.440 you know, I think the greatest thing about us as a party
00:04:35.100 is we're willing to question
00:04:35.980 and we're willing to do so pretty viciously.
00:04:37.960 And we have, and we've been proven right
00:04:39.380 about a lot of things.
00:04:40.820 Again, knowing the corruption of the other side,
00:04:44.300 I would be asking a hell of a lot more questions
00:04:46.020 if I didn't know the people involved,
00:04:47.760 because I'm telling you,
00:04:48.620 Bongino will not lie to the American people.
00:04:50.540 And I'm telling you,
00:04:51.080 Kash Patel will not lie to the American people.
00:04:53.520 And the other thing I'll tell you,
00:04:54.840 Kash was like best friends with Charlie.
00:04:56.300 He knew Charlie extremely well.
00:04:57.860 He knew Charlie as well as I knew Charlie.
00:04:59.820 And you better believe if there was,
00:05:01.660 if there was something off there,
00:05:02.780 he will get to the bottom of it
00:05:03.940 out of respect for a friend
00:05:05.660 who took a bullet to the neck.
00:05:07.120 To a lot of people,
00:05:08.280 there's something fishy going on.
00:05:10.000 And I'm the least conspiratorial person.
00:05:12.520 I'm like, it was the trans loving kid on the roof.
00:05:15.060 Right, right, right.
00:05:16.540 Or maybe not.
00:05:17.220 There was a what?
00:05:17.680 The second shooter.
00:05:18.560 It didn't sound like you were entirely comfortable
00:05:20.420 with the results or the final decision
00:05:23.800 of what happened with your father and Butler.
00:05:25.480 It doesn't sound like you're even 100% comfortable
00:05:27.880 with that decision.
00:05:29.220 What makes you think that we're going to be comfortable
00:05:30.840 with the Charlie Kirk decision?
00:05:32.300 Yeah, well, first of all,
00:05:33.080 the incident when my father happened under Joe Biden.
00:05:37.340 You had a director.
00:05:38.720 You had Kimberly Cheadle.
00:05:39.640 Does everybody remember her?
00:05:40.540 Who was an absolute DEI, incompetent human being
00:05:43.060 who said that the roof was so sloped
00:05:44.680 that the counter sniper teams,
00:05:46.160 and I know these guys, I shoot with them.
00:05:47.700 I've shot with them a lot.
00:05:48.600 I know a bunch of the guys there.
00:05:49.800 Some of the guys over there are good friends of mine.
00:05:51.900 Was too steep.
00:05:53.060 Yeah, her.
00:05:53.540 I mean, show the roof.
00:05:54.160 Show the butler roof.
00:05:55.260 It was like this.
00:05:56.040 She testified to Congress that the roof
00:05:58.220 was too steep to climb over.
00:06:00.000 I mean, it was all BS, guys.
00:06:01.840 Yeah, there it is.
00:06:03.500 And then, by the way,
00:06:04.480 you had these old congressmen and senators
00:06:06.360 who were walking up and down that roof
00:06:07.780 like it was absolutely nothing.
00:06:09.720 My 47-pound daughter could scale that roof
00:06:12.660 without even thinking about it
00:06:14.040 and ride her bike on that roof.
00:06:15.920 And so I think there's a difference
00:06:17.440 between that administration
00:06:18.920 and the trust I had for that administration
00:06:20.780 versus the trust I have for this administration.
00:06:23.120 I mean, this is just an administration
00:06:24.800 that spent their four years
00:06:27.440 weaponizing government
00:06:28.380 against absolutely everything, right?
00:06:31.120 So, you know, and then the fact
00:06:32.560 that they couldn't get into the guy's phone.
00:06:33.800 Give me a break.
00:06:34.580 Like, you know.
00:06:35.600 So I think there's a big difference.
00:06:39.000 I think there's a really big difference.
00:06:40.100 Because of who's there.
00:06:40.880 So for me, what it makes me think about is,
00:06:42.640 let's say Cash is somebody
00:06:44.620 that a lot of people trust, let's just say.
00:06:46.500 Okay, but he's the guy that came in.
00:06:48.260 Fine, he's going to be doing the things.
00:06:49.480 But FBI's got 38,000 employees.
00:06:51.900 And those 38,000 employees, the last four,
00:06:53.520 it's not like Trump was 4-4-8 combined.
00:06:56.240 So there's momentum being built
00:06:57.620 and you're getting rid of people.
00:06:59.180 So yes, Cash is at the top.
00:07:01.280 Bongino's at the top.
00:07:02.500 But those 38,000, how many of the 38,000
00:07:05.060 are for what you're for, what we're for?
00:07:08.180 So somebody can sit there and say,
00:07:09.380 look, I get what you're saying.
00:07:11.280 You know, you've ran an operation for a long time.
00:07:13.740 When we were sitting down,
00:07:14.860 you were telling me about how many people
00:07:16.640 that knew you when you were 12 years old, 10 years old.
00:07:19.560 Now you're there and they respect the fact
00:07:21.780 that you were working with them.
00:07:22.640 Your dad would always bring you on the work side.
00:07:24.320 So you're running a company,
00:07:26.120 you've earned moral authority, right?
00:07:27.660 They've seen how hard you're working
00:07:29.120 and they're comfortable you going in there.
00:07:31.180 Now imagine if all of a sudden I come in
00:07:34.020 and there's a big falling out
00:07:36.240 and we bring a different CEO
00:07:37.720 who can't stand you and your family.
00:07:40.040 Let's just say they buy the company.
00:07:41.120 I'm just making it up.
00:07:42.580 And most of the employees that are there,
00:07:44.580 they're like, who the hell is this guy?
00:07:46.500 We like him.
00:07:47.700 So to a lot of people that are questioning things,
00:07:49.840 they may say, well, look, I get cash,
00:07:52.020 I get Bongino, yes.
00:07:53.960 But what makes us think everybody in there
00:07:57.120 is going to want to get to the bottom of this?
00:07:58.420 Can we trust everybody?
00:07:59.400 I think that's what a lot of people are questioning.
00:08:01.040 Yeah, listen, I think they clearly need
00:08:02.800 to publish a report.
00:08:03.520 I mean, I think there's a lot of good questions
00:08:04.940 that have been answered, right?
00:08:05.780 Without going down a rabbit hole of conspiracy
00:08:07.380 because that's not at all my intention at all.
00:08:09.760 And again, I truly trust the people at the top of that.
00:08:11.900 But, you know, where was the rifle
00:08:13.120 when you jumped off the roof, right?
00:08:14.220 I mean, that's a good question.
00:08:15.100 I'm a very big shooter.
00:08:17.100 I mean, Mausers typically aren't chambered.
00:08:19.300 They're not chambered on 30-06, right?
00:08:20.760 They're normally chambered on an 8-millimeter Mauser.
00:08:22.640 Most of the time, 30-06 is in a stripper clips, right?
00:08:24.660 All of a sudden, they show a picture
00:08:25.620 of a stripper clip with...
00:08:26.880 I mean, you could geek out on a lot of things
00:08:28.480 that didn't feel and seem right, you know?
00:08:31.180 There could be answers to all those things
00:08:32.860 that I'm not aware of.
00:08:34.100 Again, all I know is I trust Bongino wholeheartedly.
00:08:37.780 Has he been on the show with you?
00:08:38.900 He has, yeah.
00:08:39.500 You know, he's a good man.
00:08:41.100 I wouldn't mind talking to Cash, by the way.
00:08:42.500 If you talk to Cash, if Cash is open,
00:08:44.720 I'd love to have a conversation with Cash.
00:08:47.020 Yeah, Cash is a good man.
00:08:48.320 So, listen, I truly do believe
00:08:50.000 that they'll get to the bottom of it.
00:08:51.780 And I think the other thing is out of respect
00:08:53.800 for their mutual friend because Charlie was everybody.
00:08:56.100 I mean, I was watching this press conference.
00:08:57.940 As Cash was up there almost crying,
00:09:00.020 knowing Charlie as well as he did, you know?
00:09:02.640 As, I mean, you want to talk about all worlds
00:09:05.080 coming together as one?
00:09:06.540 Like, these were all your friends.
00:09:07.520 Like, you know, Charlie was my friend who was killed.
00:09:09.360 Cash was up there with my friend
00:09:10.460 who is now investigating
00:09:11.420 and trying to get to the bottom of his friend
00:09:13.680 that was killed.
00:09:14.460 We were all in this fight together, right?
00:09:15.840 I mean, you know, Cash was one of those people
00:09:17.580 that never left our side.
00:09:18.700 You asked the question before,
00:09:19.900 like, who is the person who was there
00:09:22.220 and never left in 2020, 2021 when times got bad?
00:09:26.640 Cash.
00:09:27.160 You know who else?
00:09:28.220 Bongino.
00:09:29.260 And so, no, I trust that those guys
00:09:31.160 are going to do a great job with this.
00:09:32.300 Last question on this before we move on.
00:09:33.920 Hunter, does that look like an entry wound?
00:09:37.520 Guys, it's a high-caliber rifle to, you know,
00:09:39.800 to the neck, right?
00:09:41.020 I mean, I think you hear a lot of people, you know,
00:09:42.560 he was an expert marksman.
00:09:43.580 No, he's not.
00:09:44.100 It's 200-yard shot with high-power rifle, scoped rifle.
00:09:47.560 You know, anybody who's capable of shooting
00:09:50.120 is going to be practically touching bullets
00:09:51.740 at that range.
00:09:52.740 And no one's shooting for the right side of the neck.
00:09:54.800 That's just the honest.
00:09:56.540 But what he did was horrific.
00:09:58.680 I mean, that's obviously all it took.
00:10:00.220 And we lost a great man that day.
00:10:02.160 I lost a great friend that day.
00:10:03.220 And, you know, the nation lost a person who,
00:10:07.560 man, did he make transformational change.
00:10:09.660 He was one of a kind.
00:10:10.660 Yeah.
00:10:11.880 I remember him coming into Trump work.
00:10:14.200 This was 10 years ago.
00:10:15.320 And he sat down at a conference table with me, right?
00:10:17.240 And he goes, I am literally going to change
00:10:19.780 the student body of every college in this country.
00:10:23.400 I'm going to stack them with conservatives.
00:10:25.640 We are going to.
00:10:26.960 And you're sitting there as a guy
00:10:28.000 who does real estate projects.
00:10:29.000 We hear of some BS every single day.
00:10:30.600 And you're saying, this is pretty lofty.
00:10:32.000 I mean, you're going to change the hearts and minds
00:10:33.840 of, you know, the youth of the United States.
00:10:36.780 And he was hell-bent on doing it.
00:10:38.820 And, man, did this guy accomplish exactly
00:10:40.780 what he told me 10 years ago he was going to accomplish.
00:10:43.200 He was an amazing person.
00:10:45.020 And I think Erica, she's a rock.
00:10:46.300 I think she's going to do a hell of a job.
00:10:48.240 And we agree.
00:10:49.540 Charlie Kirk was one of a kind.
00:10:52.000 We're at the event.
00:10:52.780 I'm on stage.
00:10:53.520 Tony Robbins is up there.
00:10:54.820 First shot takes place where he has no idea
00:10:57.600 what's going on.
00:10:58.220 He's in the middle of his speech.
00:10:59.420 There's nearly 8,000 people.
00:11:00.960 Some of you guys were in the room where that took place.
00:11:03.140 And then all of a sudden, I go up.
00:11:04.460 At this point, the report, I don't know if you remember,
00:11:06.880 one of the reports came in that said,
00:11:08.740 there's a pulse he's going to make you.
00:11:10.900 That was kind of on Twitter that was going viral.
00:11:12.660 Like, oh, my God, this is good.
00:11:13.520 And then Vinny comes and tells me.
00:11:14.680 We're like, wait a minute.
00:11:15.240 You've got to be kidding me.
00:11:15.860 No.
00:11:16.620 And then we have to, Tom comes up, gives a prayer.
00:11:19.100 But Charlie was one of one.
00:11:21.560 And a lot of people felt it by how many people show up
00:11:25.380 to the memorial.
00:11:25.820 You've got 65,000 people within a week show up.
00:11:30.640 They said nearly a couple hundred thousand people
00:11:32.300 came to the city.
00:11:33.480 People are trying to go in.
00:11:34.700 There's three hours before the show starts.
00:11:36.260 They're already sending people home.
00:11:37.420 The overflow room is packed.
00:11:39.100 And there was a moment, because everything in that place
00:11:41.400 was very emotional when people are speaking.
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