Valuetainment - July 15, 2025


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Stoic philosophy is the ultimate pre-Christian philosophy, and it's one of the most influential philosophies of the ancient Greek philosophers. Pat McAfee talks about how Stoic philosophy changed his life, and how it can help you live a virtuous life.

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00:00:00.000 It's your PhD philosophy, right?
00:00:01.540 So Stoicism.
00:00:03.260 First time, you know, when some of these things had an influence on my life,
00:00:09.220 Stoicism was one of them.
00:00:10.200 When I read Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, I had my sons read Meditations.
00:00:13.140 It's a phenomenal book.
00:00:14.480 Out of all the writings, everything, the only thing they could find is Meditations
00:00:17.360 because they burned the stuff.
00:00:19.020 I don't know what happened with the history of it.
00:00:20.840 And I got really connected with Stoicism.
00:00:26.460 Who wrote it?
00:00:28.560 Epictetus.
00:00:29.180 Epictetus, right?
00:00:30.620 And can you tell me, one, the history of how Stoicism came about
00:00:35.920 and then your opinion on Stoicism for young men?
00:00:40.680 Yeah, so the history, kind of a philosophy, Greek philosophy.
00:00:43.320 You got Socrates, right?
00:00:45.140 He's the number one.
00:00:46.400 And then his disciple Plato and then Aristotle.
00:00:49.740 So those are your three.
00:00:50.600 And Aristotle, disciple Alexander the Great, the great king emperor.
00:00:54.760 So that kind of sets you up sort of what's going on.
00:00:57.660 Socrates and Plato are a little bit more emphasized on the forms and the heavenly realities.
00:01:02.580 Aristotle's a little bit more on the integration of form and matter down here.
00:01:06.420 That's all great.
00:01:07.140 So there was Zeno and the Stoic philosophers.
00:01:10.340 They're named after the Stoa, which is an architectural feature in Athens.
00:01:13.420 So they're named after basically where they met, right?
00:01:16.600 And they presented, they actually saw themselves as an integration of Plato and Aristotle.
00:01:23.440 They're kind of a synthesis, the Stoics.
00:01:25.500 And the Stoics, I mean, kind of the 101 version is emotions and passions are dangerous.
00:01:33.980 And so you must still your soul by denying your emotions and your passions.
00:01:40.940 And so a practice that Stoics would perform is they'd go 30 days eating the basest bread and the worst wine. 0.88
00:01:49.660 And they would say to themselves every day, is this what you fear, Pat?
00:01:53.440 Cheap wine, stale bread.
00:01:56.500 Is this what you fear?
00:01:57.720 It's not that bad, you know, kind of just to get it out of you.
00:02:00.860 And sometimes they would just say, what's the worst possible thing you could happen to you and just spend 30 minutes just driving down that lane and just getting freaked out.
00:02:08.720 And that's the Stoic, and I think it appeals to the masculine man because it is the ultimate pre-Christian philosophy of don't live by your emotions, don't follow, you know, the girl in the red dress, you know, don't trade today for tomorrow.
00:02:30.120 Like you need to be, and Stoicism says, happiness is in virtue and in stillness of the soul.
00:02:37.100 Let me repeat that.
00:02:39.180 Virtue, doing the right thing.
00:02:41.320 And a virtue is a habit towards the good.
00:02:44.140 So if I just help an old lady once, that's a good deed. 0.99
00:02:47.140 If I help old ladies every single day for a year, that's a habit called a virtue. 1.00
00:02:52.180 And if you do bad things every day, like look at porn every day, a habit that's bad is called a vice, so you have virtue and vice.
00:02:59.360 They say you will be happy.
00:03:00.540 And Aristotle, and Plato teaches this, they're not even Christian. 0.96
00:03:03.200 They're not going to Bible studies.
00:03:05.680 You will be happy.
00:03:07.240 You will find joy.
00:03:08.640 You will find fulfillment in living the virtuous life.
00:03:12.360 These are ancient Greek philosophers.
00:03:15.580 And so I think a lot of young men, they read that, and it's, you know, especially if you were raised like Southern Baptist or something, and you're like, I don't want to hear a preacher.
00:03:22.040 And they go and they read Marcus Aurelius or some of these ancient Greek philosophers.
00:03:27.880 Aurelius was a Roman emperor, but before him, the Greek philosophers.
00:03:31.020 They're like, oh, this makes sense.
00:03:32.820 I want this.
00:03:33.700 I like this.
00:03:34.860 Right?
00:03:35.080 And then often what happens, Pat, is those same guys then later on are like, yeah, but I need Christ in it too.
00:03:41.680 I need Christ on the cross.
00:03:43.220 That's kind of, in a way, the ultimate stoic moment.
00:03:46.480 I think that's such a great combination, though, bro.
00:03:48.420 It is.
00:03:48.880 What a great, if you can, if you can find a way, and I think if you can find a way to balance the two, you know, the philosophy of stoicism helped me a better man, friend, father, businessman.
00:04:07.500 The fear of God, and let me tell you, my level of fear for him is ridiculous.
00:04:14.240 Most people are like, what do you mean by that?
00:04:15.300 I say, yeah, I wish you know how scared I am.
00:04:16.720 That is a place where, you know, my energy changes very quickly because what he's given me, I'm grateful, and the fear is there.
00:04:26.000 I'll never forget that energy when he came in.
00:04:28.580 That combination for a man, I think it's very powerful, and it's trusting, it's capable, it's upside.
00:04:35.880 A woman probably wants a husband like that, feels protected by that. 1.00
00:04:40.460 Kids want to follow a man like that.
00:04:42.020 It makes you into an oak where you're rooted, and women are attracted to that. 1.00
00:04:47.640 That's another thing.
00:04:48.280 I think a lot of young guys out there, they don't understand what women are attracted to.
00:04:54.000 You know, I think the book, No More Mr. Nice Guy, taps into that a little bit, you know, just, you know, listening to what women say they want in the public sphere and then sort of conforming to that to be the nice guy. 0.93
00:05:04.880 They realize they lose every time.
00:05:06.440 It doesn't work.
00:05:07.740 Well, women want that. 1.00
00:05:09.560 They want to be brought on to an adventure.
00:05:12.860 They want a man who's stoic.
00:05:14.540 I mean, just look at all the, you know, great heroes in the movies that women are attracted to, James Bond and so on and so forth.
00:05:20.680 You know, they're about to get killed, but they make a joke of it, you know, and they're courageous, and they live on the edge.
00:05:26.480 And that's how we should be living as many.
00:05:29.780 If you're not afraid, if there's something that you're doing that you're just completely at ease all the time, and you're not pushing it, and you're like, how am I going to overcome this?
00:05:39.300 You know, are you even living?
00:05:41.420 You're not.
00:05:42.380 You're not.
00:05:43.220 And I think stoicism is what helps you go from A to B to C, or maybe towards the end of your life, you're at X, Y, and Z, and you're like, man, this is intense.
00:05:52.220 You know, I don't want to retire and just go limp.
00:05:54.560 I want to hopefully go out with my boots on.
00:05:57.620 Yeah.
00:05:58.260 And first time I got a hold of this whole concept, I was like, man, this, this, by the way, who is this, Rob?
00:06:05.460 Do you know who that person is?
00:06:07.320 Who is the person that's speaking?
00:06:08.960 I don't.
00:06:09.500 I'll take a look and see.
00:06:10.480 First see who it is before I play the clip.
00:06:12.120 So I'm actually curious to know what his background is and what he does before I play the clip to see his thoughts.
00:06:17.300 Because he talks about marriage and women, and his answer is very weird.
00:06:23.180 You may or may not agree with it.
00:06:24.720 I just kind of want to explain.
00:06:29.260 Who is he?
00:06:29.940 Is he a pastor?
00:06:30.960 Is he anything related to faith, or what was his job?
00:06:36.040 What was his job?
00:06:38.440 Consideration.
00:06:41.320 Jewish family.
00:06:43.920 Play the clip.
00:06:44.740 See if you agree with this.
00:06:45.900 I'm just curious to know what you'll say about this.
00:06:47.440 Very interesting what he says.
00:06:48.520 Go ahead.
00:06:48.800 I was saying that a father represents God, but what does a mother represent?
00:06:56.180 The devil.
00:07:00.460 Never forget that.
00:07:02.860 I don't know if I agree, but listen to what he says.
00:07:05.020 Listen.
00:07:05.320 Adam listened to his wife.
00:07:09.440 He hearkened to the voice of his wife.
00:07:11.540 Remember that.
00:07:14.760 And remember it well.
00:07:16.820 Never listen to a woman. 1.00
00:07:19.360 You listen to her, but don't follow her.
00:07:22.380 You know, women always support the ambitions of men. 1.00
00:07:26.140 They always support that fallen, rebellious nature, which is ambitious.
00:07:30.140 And men are always working for the approval of that woman, for the love of that woman.
00:07:34.800 That's right.
00:07:35.000 And the approval of that woman only makes him more ambitious, and more ambitious, and more
00:07:38.580 ambitious.
00:07:39.320 His whole life revolves around the reassurance that ambition and pride is the way of being.
00:07:46.380 See?
00:07:47.000 That's the whole thing.
00:07:47.840 If you look carefully in your life, men revolve around the support of the ambitious nature.
00:07:54.620 They've eaten the fruit of pride.
00:07:59.360 Instead of working hard by the work of their hands, they become more and more ambitious
00:08:03.780 and spend their money more foolishly.
00:08:06.140 You have to pay a woman more and more and more money to hold on to her love. 0.99
00:08:11.020 See?
00:08:11.340 And what's that love for?
00:08:13.220 It's for pride.
00:08:14.520 You were saying...
00:08:15.480 Nothing about this.
00:08:16.240 I think there's some insights in there.
00:08:18.540 I would disagree that the mother is the devil.
00:08:22.920 I think he's being funny there.
00:08:24.140 Yeah, he is.
00:08:24.620 I don't think he really means that.
00:08:25.440 I don't know the guy.
00:08:26.360 I've never met him.
00:08:27.600 I never knew who he was until right now.
00:08:29.940 I just saw this clip.
00:08:31.520 But he's setting it up.
00:08:32.480 Yeah, he is.
00:08:32.900 But go ahead.
00:08:33.300 I'm setting it up.
00:08:34.160 Yeah.
00:08:34.940 I tell you what.
00:08:35.920 I'm 47.
00:08:37.700 Genesis 3 is way deeper than I thought it was 20 years ago.
00:08:42.820 Genesis chapter 3, the fall of Adam and Eve, is so profound.
00:08:46.840 Philosophically, theologically, there's so much there.
00:08:48.760 And I think a lot of what he's talking about there is right, is what you see in the story
00:08:53.780 of the fall of Adam and Eve is, and I believe that's a true story.
00:08:58.100 I believe that's a real story.
00:09:00.540 Is the man conforming to the request of the woman?
00:09:06.660 It's original sin.
00:09:07.920 It's a disordered understanding of reality as God established it.
00:09:12.680 And every time you go against the natural order that God established it, not only is
00:09:16.740 it sin, it brings disaster into the world.
00:09:18.640 And, you know, I think that that covers a lot of stuff that we've talked about today.
00:09:25.280 And I think we do live in a gynocentric culture. 0.95
00:09:29.720 I think feminism is the predominant worldview in relationships and even in the way children 1.00
00:09:37.220 are raised.
00:09:38.280 But I've noticed, you know, I would say six years ago, if I was on my podcast and I said,
00:09:42.880 feminism is the worst thing ever, people would be like, whoa, even conservatives, Fox News 1.00
00:09:47.340 types, Christians will be like, no, no, there's some good thing. 1.00
00:09:50.220 The Overton window has shifted on feminism. 1.00
00:09:52.280 You go on X, you go on, there are women that are just like, screw feminism, screw me over. 1.00
00:09:57.680 And you see these 20-year-old girls like, I can't believe my mom taught me this.
00:10:01.440 This is not what I want.
00:10:02.500 And there is an act of rebellion by men and women against feminism.
00:10:06.760 But I think we need to understand it in the context of what did God define matrimony as?
00:10:12.040 What did he define man?
00:10:13.500 What did he define woman as?
00:10:14.800 All of that stuff needs to be defined according to Genesis chapter three.
00:10:18.840 And he's pointing at, look, if you want to understand brokenness in families, you go back
00:10:23.360 to Genesis chapter three, because everything is getting reversed and overturned in that small
00:10:28.340 little chapter in the Bible.
00:10:29.840 And there's a lot of insight there.
00:10:32.500 Did you see Candace conversation with the other girl on feminism? 0.89
00:10:38.720 Was it Allie Beth Ducky, maybe?
00:10:40.600 I don't know what the girl's name is.
00:10:42.000 She's got these, Rob, I'm going to send this.
00:10:45.540 It's so funny.
00:10:46.100 You're talking about feminism. 1.00
00:10:46.920 I really like the way Candace broke this specific topic down.
00:10:52.360 Rob, I just sent it to you.
00:10:54.040 So she's asking about the CIA funding the feminist movement, where the story comes out.
00:10:58.020 I don't know if you've seen that one or not.
00:10:59.140 No, I've seen that one.
00:10:59.840 And why that, you know, became popular.
00:11:05.180 And the girl's trying to debate it and argue it. 1.00
00:11:07.680 And she makes a very, she says, to be happy.
00:11:09.980 Play this clip, Rob.
00:11:10.920 It's worthy of us watching it.
00:11:12.760 She makes a very good argument here.
00:11:14.480 It's kind of funny, because as someone who's anti-feminism, you practice it more than most
00:11:18.500 women do. 1.00
00:11:18.980 I mean, every time you get on your podcast, every time you collect a check, you're practicing
00:11:23.240 feminism. 1.00
00:11:24.140 Okay.
00:11:24.680 That's what you think.
00:11:25.680 No, that's what it is.
00:11:26.420 Actually.
00:11:26.760 Because without feminism, you wouldn't be able to exist. 1.00
00:11:28.680 Yeah.
00:11:28.800 People keep saying, I hate when people say that.
00:11:30.520 But it's just the truth.
00:11:31.340 It just shows that you haven't done the research to even understand where the feminism is from. 1.00
00:11:34.220 Or you don't know history.
00:11:35.420 Which was discoverable.
00:11:36.340 That's what I'm saying about you.
00:11:37.420 Because it means that you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the
00:11:41.160 CIA funded the feminist movement.
00:11:43.200 So for all of your hatred for the patriarchy.
00:11:44.940 I'm so confused.
00:11:45.760 And speaking about men.
00:11:45.880 So my question is, is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened?
00:11:49.100 Men wanted women to go into the workforce. 0.99
00:11:52.500 The government, which had a lot of men.
00:11:54.680 It was being put by men.
00:11:55.100 Are you talking about because World War II occurred and we had to go to factories?
00:11:58.700 And then when we left the factories, they forced us back into the homes?
00:12:00.900 Let her speak. 0.94
00:12:01.560 That's not what I'm saying at all.
00:12:02.840 So let me tell you what I'm saying.
00:12:04.160 And then you can respond to it.
00:12:05.180 Go for it.
00:12:05.520 Gloria Steinem was considered to be a feminist. 1.00
00:12:07.420 Icon, right?
00:12:08.820 Because she led these protests.
00:12:12.600 She also had a bunch of music festivals.
00:12:14.860 She got students involved.
00:12:15.800 It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA. 0.96
00:12:20.980 Okay?
00:12:22.060 The CIA being the male-dominated CIA of the 50s and the 60s funded those movements.
00:12:28.240 So what do you think was the explicit aim?
00:12:31.320 Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be more free that they
00:12:35.760 wanted to encourage women to enter?
00:12:37.160 Well, I have to be honest with you.
00:12:38.060 I couldn't speak on behalf of the government.
00:12:39.720 You know what I mean?
00:12:40.360 And what their intention was with that?
00:12:41.300 I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history.
00:12:43.580 And I think it's pretty important if you're going to sit across from me and say, I don't
00:12:45.800 know history, that you learn a piece of history and then question.
00:12:48.360 You keep bringing up men.
00:12:49.680 And I think it's funny because we should talk about men more.
00:12:52.220 Like you brought up suicide.
00:12:53.400 They're four times more likely to kill themselves.
00:12:55.400 Which is why I don't.
00:12:55.780 And while women, we're twice as more often on antidepressants, but that's because we go 0.62
00:12:59.700 out and do what we need to do to keep coping.
00:13:01.360 Because we're not happy.
00:13:01.900 And we need to focus on men and the patriarchy because it's actually oppressed them just 0.99
00:13:06.120 as much as women now emotionally, right?
00:13:08.060 Because when we're kids, our parents teach us how to cross the street.
00:13:11.980 Look both ways so you can get the other side unharmed.
00:13:14.120 When a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using men and boys here because they're the
00:13:17.600 ones suffering.
00:13:18.920 Women are too, but emotionally. 1.00
00:13:20.800 When they come across a feeling they haven't felt before, we have to teach them how to
00:13:25.520 get to the other side and cope with it.
00:13:27.200 Otherwise, they stay where they are.
00:13:28.860 That anger and resentment builds.
00:13:30.600 That's the feeling they become most comfortable with.
00:13:32.900 That's the feeling they go to first in most situations.
00:13:35.520 So we need to stop telling our boys that they don't cry because they do.
00:13:38.780 They just do it alone.
00:13:39.880 And then they become even more alone.
00:13:42.520 What do you think about that exchange?
00:13:44.860 I mean, Candice nailed it. 0.99
00:13:46.940 Totally.
00:13:47.640 Yeah.
00:13:47.780 And also people are starting to discover that Karl Marx talks about how that women have
00:13:51.920 to be liberated from the home and women need to be in the workplace. 1.00
00:13:54.700 This is Karl Marx.
00:13:55.860 This is socialism.
00:13:56.840 This is part of the new secular religion.
00:14:00.860 And feminism was never intended to make the world a better place. 1.00
00:14:06.340 It's creating a different class warfare within the home. 0.74
00:14:11.860 Yeah, but the reality of it is, you know, what are you solving for?
00:14:16.680 You know, what are you solving for?
00:14:18.860 Are you solving for being fulfilled?
00:14:21.020 Are you solving for being independent?
00:14:24.220 Are you solving to be happy?
00:14:26.200 Are you solving to...
00:14:28.020 What are you solving for?
00:14:29.820 If the solving is to make you equal to men, you're never going to win because we're never 0.80
00:14:35.220 going to win.
00:14:35.660 We can't have kids.
00:14:36.820 We're never going to be equal to you.
00:14:38.140 We can't have kids.
00:14:39.380 You're never going to be equal to us.
00:14:40.700 There are certain jobs you're just not willing to do.
00:14:43.900 Period.
00:14:45.040 A guy, while this flooding happened in Texas, did you hear about this guy named Scott
00:14:48.420 who went and saved the hundred sixty, fifty-six?
00:14:50.120 We should be rewarding this guy.
00:14:51.400 Seriously.
00:14:53.200 And you hear the story about what he did and the clips about this guy.
00:14:57.320 This guy, he's a rock star.
00:14:59.680 How many women are we expecting to do that? 1.00
00:15:03.120 We don't expect women to go. 1.00
00:15:04.560 They're not saying some can't do it.
00:15:05.940 But a man, he's putting his life on the line to save other people's lives.
00:15:10.780 That's a man's job. 1.00
00:15:12.500 We are assigned to do that.
00:15:14.000 Yeah, I was in the military.
00:15:14.900 We had a lot of females, you know, but what are you solving for? 1.00
00:15:18.400 Fulfillment.
00:15:19.020 Are you fulfilled?
00:15:20.680 Is the product solid?
00:15:22.880 Are men as fulfilled as they were before?
00:15:25.220 Is there value being shown?
00:15:27.900 It's not hard to look at the data and see how our men feel today
00:15:34.140 and how our women feel today,
00:15:35.960 especially some of them that signed up to this concept 40 years ago,
00:15:38.780 50 years ago, 60 years ago.
00:15:40.520 You know, you hear these stories and you're sitting there saying,
00:15:42.840 these guys are not happy with what they're going through.
00:15:44.860 And look at the results.
00:15:45.900 If the result is 1.6 birth rate, 1.2, 0.8, 0.7, down to zero,
00:15:51.540 that's not a sustainable philosophy.
00:15:54.060 It's not a sustainable way of doing human life.
00:15:57.740 It has to be rejected.
00:15:59.940 Yeah.
00:16:00.580 No, again, I'm optimistic of where it's going
00:16:02.780 because I think guys like you are talking about it,
00:16:04.780 you know, we were talking about Joe Rogan earlier.
00:16:06.400 I think the great thing about podcast is we still have an experience.
00:16:13.320 Like imagine if these Mr. Beast, God gets a hold of them.
00:16:18.020 What does that look like?
00:16:19.260 Yeah.
00:16:19.840 Imagine if a Joe Rogan, all of a sudden he starts,
00:16:22.320 you know when somebody starts speaking a language of,
00:16:25.200 you know, it's a different language,
00:16:26.320 you use certain words in a different way,
00:16:27.880 you're pro changes.
00:16:29.980 What is that going to look like?
00:16:31.660 Like, you know, everybody on the left is like,
00:16:33.080 we need to find the Joe Rogan of the left.
00:16:35.840 If these big podcasts, most of them are conservative,
00:16:40.540 if all of a sudden they start really,
00:16:42.940 guys like you are popping up, Wes Huff and all these other guys,
00:16:45.620 you guys are doing a phenomenal job.
00:16:47.120 Well, Candace, just there.
00:16:48.380 Well, no, Candace is, but Candace is a, 0.99
00:16:51.540 she's a top five podcast.
00:16:53.160 I'm saying all of these others that are coming up,
00:16:55.440 the different roles that they're playing,
00:16:57.400 you know, that's going to be a very interesting thing long-term.
00:17:03.080 My level of optimism is very high.
00:17:04.900 Hey, I'm Dr. Taylor Marshall,
00:17:05.980 and I run a podcast and write books on philosophy,
00:17:09.800 theology, Catholicism.
00:17:12.020 My wife and I have eight children,
00:17:13.340 so if you'd like to connect and ask me any questions
00:17:15.720 on any of these topics or anything else,
00:17:17.740 please connect with me on Manect.
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