Valuetainment - August 08, 2025


＂Israel OVER Negotiated America＂ - Netanyahu PUSHES For Gaza Occupation To End Hamas War


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

199.46494

Word Count

5,393

Sentence Count

495

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

Is Israel planning to occupy all of Gaza? Is this the only way to get the hostages back home? What would that mean for the situation in Gaza, and how would it affect the situation with the hostages? We talk about this and much more on this episode of the podcast.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 But Netanyahu believes occupying Gaza is the only way to save the hostages, but it will also start bloodiest phase of the war, yet experts warn.
00:00:13.660 Rob, I think you've got a clip on this one here.
00:00:15.240 I have two. I have ABC News report, and then I have President Trump being asked about it.
00:00:19.240 Go for it.
00:00:19.820 Sources telling ABC News Prime Minister Netanyahu wants to expand the war and occupy all of Gaza and get the hostages home.
00:00:27.520 At least that is what's been leaked to the press.
00:00:30.620 If it happens, it will be a really radical departure from the negotiations that have been brokered by the US and Arab countries,
00:00:37.280 who have effectively been trying unsuccessfully to agree another ceasefire and the release of those still being held.
00:00:44.580 Videos showing two hostages looking emaciated have shocked this country and put more pressure on Netanyahu.
00:00:51.140 We had Steve Witkoff, President Trump's special envoy, telling hostage families just a couple of days ago,
00:00:57.760 we are very, very close to a solution to end this war and that all hostages will be released at once rather than in stages.
00:01:04.280 But honestly, Diane, there's no sense of how this will happen.
00:01:08.300 Intense bombing and mass starvation have failed to force Hamas to relent.
00:01:13.800 The militants calling Israel's latest threats repetitive, worthless and without influence.
00:01:19.140 Families fear a military operation in the areas.
00:01:23.740 Families, those still being held, fear that any expanded military operation,
00:01:28.760 especially into the areas where they think their loved ones are being held, will risk their lives.
00:01:34.920 The brother of one of the hostages looking painfully thin in that video,
00:01:39.160 telling me that Hamas is using his brother, the other hostages and the people of Gaza as bargaining.
00:01:45.320 Let's see what Trump says here. Let's see what Trump says here about the same exact thing.
00:01:50.100 Go for it.
00:01:51.700 Would you support Israel reoccupying all of Gaza as has been suggested by some Israeli officials?
00:01:59.580 Well, I don't know what the suggestion is.
00:02:01.260 I know that we are there now trying to get people fed.
00:02:04.000 As you know, $60 million was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of food, frankly,
00:02:13.160 for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food.
00:02:18.140 And I know Israel is going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money.
00:02:22.980 We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution.
00:02:28.300 So that's what I'm focused on.
00:02:30.680 As far as the rest of it, I really I really can say that's going to be pretty much up to Israel.
00:02:36.140 Yep.
00:02:37.180 Tom.
00:02:39.520 So, you know, when you look at this and what's going on, first of all, there's a humanitarian crisis.
00:02:46.240 It is going on with citizens in Gaza, the people of Gaza.
00:02:50.560 They're there and they're they're caught in the middle.
00:02:53.480 Hamas hides behind them and you feel for them.
00:02:58.300 There's also people there that voted for this and ended up with it.
00:03:02.140 And so which sucks.
00:03:03.980 And so I think that what's going on right now is we're trying to get aid in, as the president said,
00:03:10.680 to help the people that are there who are basically refugees.
00:03:14.640 And on the other hand, Netanyahu is basically saying and let me see if I can translate for Bibi.
00:03:21.100 And I'm not speaking for him, but he's saying occupation is how we're going to get it.
00:03:26.920 Or, man, the deep hidden tunnels and terrorists still exist and it may be messy, but we may have to go in there with an even deeper occupying presence to to solve this and to solve it for good.
00:03:44.940 And people are going to say, oh, well, Bibi's, you know, you know, he's committing genocide with those.
00:03:49.720 No, that's not what he's saying.
00:03:50.960 So I think he's saying is it might be really messy to get in and to do what we have to do to take this to its final phase.
00:04:00.240 And Trump is saying along the way, we're trying to get, you know, refugee support to the people of Gaza, to the citizens.
00:04:10.420 Vinny.
00:04:10.960 I mean, deadlier and crazier than than what is if it's going to get deadlier and bloodier than what has already happened.
00:04:18.240 And, dude, my I have I'm just going to pray for those people because it's how much worse can it get?
00:04:23.660 A couple last week, it was the deadliest yet for aid seekers, 21 months of war, 85 Palestinians were killed trying to get food, not Hamas holding them or any of that type of stuff.
00:04:34.140 Tommy, it was just saying this is the U.N. saying more than 400 Palestinians were killed.
00:04:38.040 There's IDF soldiers that told Harris, H-A-R-E-T-Z, which is Israeli newspaper, that they're ordered to fire at unarmed crowds near food distribution sites, even when no threats are present.
00:04:51.320 OK, then you have Israelis minister Ben Gavir calling Netanyahu morally bankrupt for even allowing aid into Gaza.
00:04:58.920 He said the starvation of Palestinians should continue.
00:05:01.600 His words were the only thing to send into Gaza is shells.
00:05:05.600 OK, and then Republican Congressman Randy Fine recently said it could have been in May, Rob.
00:05:11.240 I don't know the exact date. He says and Rob, do you have that clip?
00:05:14.280 I'll have him say that. He says we nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender.
00:05:19.980 This is it right here. Listen to what he says.
00:05:21.680 Nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender.
00:05:25.960 That needs to be the same here.
00:05:27.760 There is something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture and it needs to be defeated.
00:05:34.060 We heard in Brooks. OK, so, I mean, nuking the entire place and I get it.
00:05:39.240 A lot of people are saying and I think what do we see yesterday?
00:05:42.480 Megyn Kelly and even Charlie Kirk were mentioning it's like, guys, you can be critical about because people are going after them because they're not going all in on everything that the government of Israel is doing.
00:05:53.920 But I think these type of things have to be addressed.
00:05:57.260 How is it going to get bloodier when the death toll is already 60,000 people have already died in the conflict?
00:06:02.680 A thousand have died at this distribution sites.
00:06:06.100 Journalists. And here's the thing that bothers me, Pat.
00:06:08.620 Journalists aren't allowed. They're banned from entering Gaza to report what is happening.
00:06:13.480 You can't. When's the last time you saw like we just saw a couple of soldiers shooting.
00:06:16.800 I don't know what year that's from. You can't see what's happening.
00:06:19.460 And I get the fact that there's hostages. I understand that.
00:06:23.160 But what we know as American government, as the American stance on terrorism is what we do not negotiate with terrorists.
00:06:31.580 OK, whatever you're going to do, you should have been doing it already.
00:06:34.660 If they're they're so tactically.
00:06:36.760 Pat, Israel, we saw in this last operation, what were they doing in Iran?
00:06:40.660 They had they blew up a part of a building where just the apartment of where the guy was was blown up happened.
00:06:47.540 And we got to this point because of what?
00:06:49.440 I mean, Adam, we're talking about this in the hotel room yesterday, October 7th.
00:06:53.600 And now we're hearing from Israeli soldiers, IDF soldiers in their Congress.
00:06:58.800 And I sent Rob the video. They're saying that they got on October 7th stand down orders in the hours of when this attack happened.
00:07:05.880 And then Michael Flynn was on a podcast yesterday saying that he was talking to people as well.
00:07:10.700 Is this it, Rob? I mean, it's it's really long.
00:07:13.340 Yeah, it's wrong. I'll just tell you guys what he said.
00:07:15.760 He was saying from people that they were getting stand down orders.
00:07:19.200 And these are IDF soldiers. And I won't even play that clip, too, which always got back to who is the guy, Pat, that we talked about that said now is not the time.
00:07:27.040 It was it was two weeks after October 7th. John Kirby. John Kirby said now is not the time.
00:07:32.360 It's been this this far along where we are right now.
00:07:36.140 They had warnings. Egypt even warned Benjamin Netanyahu about this day.
00:07:39.720 It happened. Now you're hearing all this stuff. And I'm like, you want to get bloodier?
00:07:43.540 Can we fix the problem that's happening right now?
00:07:45.960 And it's the starving people and the people trying to get food that are getting shot at.
00:07:49.780 Isn't Trump trying to get the money in there? Number one.
00:07:51.860 So I'm trying to get the money. Isn't there two issues is where we are right now.
00:07:55.600 And then did FDR know that the Japanese are going to attack Pearl Harbor?
00:08:00.360 And is that why he took the aircraft carriers out?
00:08:02.400 Yeah. We have these conspiracies that have gone back and forth about countries getting into war.
00:08:06.280 OK, that's October 7th. We could debate that another time.
00:08:09.300 What do you think right now? Trump trying to get aid in and what Netanyahu is saying now?
00:08:15.340 I think separating it from October 7th on who did or didn't.
00:08:18.580 I think getting to the point where Trump, listen, Trump has a heart.
00:08:21.900 They asked him on Air Force One a couple of weeks ago.
00:08:24.260 I want to say one and a half weeks ago.
00:08:25.840 So the reporter's like, hey, Melania, he's even said Melania is worried about this.
00:08:29.780 He goes, they're starving.
00:08:30.780 He goes, something has to change because us caring about those people, those innocent people.
00:08:37.020 It's not anti-Semitic.
00:08:38.440 I'm not pro-Hamas.
00:08:39.940 I'm just tactically you could be doing a better job because that anti-Semitic thing.
00:08:45.280 Like then people around the world are judging and I don't agree with it.
00:08:48.460 They're hating.
00:08:49.040 They're labeling all Jewish people.
00:08:50.400 No, no, if you're going to go after the problem, say it exactly.
00:08:54.400 You don't, oh, it's the Jews.
00:08:55.940 No, no, no.
00:08:56.620 It's Bibi Netanyahu's government that's not going about this in the right way.
00:09:01.040 Because when I see starving children.
00:09:03.080 Right way according to who?
00:09:05.020 Meaning, like, what do you mean?
00:09:06.860 What is the right way according to?
00:09:08.580 So, for example, they say Trump is not going the right way about all the illegal immigrants we have.
00:09:13.880 According to who?
00:09:15.160 Trump's not going the right way about renegotiating tariffs with companies.
00:09:19.080 According to who?
00:09:20.260 So, according to who is Bibi not going the right way?
00:09:22.920 Okay.
00:09:23.280 I'll give my opinion.
00:09:24.360 I can't speak for everybody.
00:09:25.760 I think if the problem is what's happening with Gaza and there's people trying to get food to eat and they're stopping, not only stopping the food, they're giving orders to shoot at unarmed crowds.
00:09:37.640 I have a huge problem with that.
00:09:39.940 Being a veteran as well, that type of stuff, getting orders, you know what orders means?
00:09:45.260 It's coming from the top.
00:09:46.520 Somebody's telling you, listen, if they're getting wild, shoot them.
00:09:49.780 That right there, that tactical move, Pat.
00:09:51.940 And again, hostages and all that, that's a whole different.
00:09:54.520 It's Vinny, when you're saying that, like, we did that.
00:09:58.620 America did.
00:09:59.160 Of course we did.
00:09:59.960 It doesn't make it right.
00:10:00.740 No, but it's not about it makes it right or it doesn't make it right.
00:10:03.980 Iran did that.
00:10:04.800 Middle East, war is nasty, very, very nasty.
00:10:10.240 Do I support that behavior?
00:10:12.000 No.
00:10:12.480 I was a kid in Iran when Saddam and Iraq was attacking us and it's scary as hell and we were frightened moving from Tehran to Karaj to Bandar Pahlavi to Ra's.
00:10:22.860 We'll just keep moving until finally we're like, let's get the hell out of here.
00:10:25.500 It was so bad that we went to Germany to be at a refugee camp.
00:10:27.940 I'm not supportive of it.
00:10:29.240 But according to who?
00:10:30.180 So when I hear stories like this, with specifically Israel, Netanyahu, he's doing what he's doing.
00:10:36.060 All right.
00:10:36.860 So in America, we'll sit there and, you know, there'll be the guys on the side that are, you know, Jew this, Israel this, all this other stuff.
00:10:44.360 I can't believe what they're doing.
00:10:45.680 I can't believe what they're doing with this.
00:10:46.960 All right, cool.
00:10:47.840 There's a faction that Israel can't do nothing right whatsoever.
00:10:52.760 Then there's a faction that says Israel can't do nothing wrong.
00:10:56.040 Both of those people have zero credibility with me.
00:10:59.380 I agree.
00:10:59.880 Okay.
00:11:00.280 Zero credibility with me.
00:11:01.960 When you're only looking at that everything Israel, Jews, you lose.
00:11:06.460 I'm not listening to you because you're being unreasonable.
00:11:10.880 And when the people can't do anything wrong, you're also, I don't want to hear what you have to say because you're also full of it.
00:11:16.180 Right.
00:11:16.380 But for me, if he's choosing to do this and he goes about and does it himself, you know, the history we have in America, every single state that we have, this is not California, this is Mexico, this is not this, this is this.
00:11:27.960 What do you think we did?
00:11:30.360 Did you live in California?
00:11:31.560 Did we live in a lot of these states?
00:11:32.800 How do you think it happened?
00:11:33.780 You think it was pretty?
00:11:34.520 You think it was, what are we talking about?
00:11:36.080 Like we're talking about like as if it's going to happen, like these types of things are going to happen all over the place.
00:11:41.740 They have to handle it.
00:11:42.880 But my problem is, hey, you say you can do it.
00:11:47.220 Can you do it with your money?
00:11:48.680 What do you need?
00:11:49.320 If you want to do it by yourself, go do it.
00:11:51.540 I don't support it.
00:11:52.580 I'm not going to get up and great job.
00:11:54.280 We endorse this behavior.
00:11:55.860 And that's exactly what he's doing.
00:11:57.240 He said, hey, my wife is even talking about what he's doing over there.
00:11:59.280 Are we feeding the guys or not?
00:12:00.540 You don't think behind closed doors he's talking to BB and saying something like this.
00:12:03.640 Hey, BB, let me explain something to you.
00:12:05.920 I swear to God, if the next time I send you food, if it doesn't make it to the people that need to do something,
00:12:10.700 you lose anything you want from me, you're not going to get it.
00:12:14.140 You don't think he says something like that?
00:12:15.160 I think so.
00:12:15.440 Does Trump give you the vibe that he's being pushed around by BB?
00:12:18.460 Really?
00:12:18.780 Not at all.
00:12:19.200 Let's go talk about this.
00:12:20.300 We talked about this.
00:12:20.980 You and I had dinner the other night while we were at this sushi spot.
00:12:25.760 I don't remember the name of it, but you know which one I'm talking about.
00:12:27.600 Amazing.
00:12:28.060 We're sitting there.
00:12:28.700 We're like, wow, Mossad has all these assets on Americans.
00:12:31.580 Okay, hey, let's talk to you, the person that says Mossad has assets on Americans, because I believe they do.
00:12:36.620 I actually believe that Mossad did use people like Epstein, Robert Maxwell, and a lot of other people today in the system,
00:12:43.200 like the Waltz of some of these stories.
00:12:44.520 Of course.
00:12:44.800 I do believe they have assets in America.
00:12:46.780 I believe that they have it on the internal side.
00:12:48.600 But if you and I are presidents, bro, let's say you're a president.
00:12:52.600 Yeah.
00:12:52.780 And Mossad shows, hey, Vinny, you better fund this, this, this, and this, and you're the president, or else we're going to do this.
00:13:01.500 Yeah.
00:13:02.500 Let's say they show a picture from you from 28 years ago.
00:13:05.780 Let's say they have something on what you did from 26 years ago.
00:13:08.380 Me with the underage girl.
00:13:09.420 Whatever it is.
00:13:10.200 I'm just saying, let's say they have that.
00:13:11.820 Okay.
00:13:13.440 Who becomes a president without having a big ego?
00:13:16.000 Nobody.
00:13:16.560 Of course.
00:13:17.240 What are you going to do if somebody threatens you like that to publicly humiliate you?
00:13:20.040 And we talked about this?
00:13:20.760 What are you going to do?
00:13:21.200 The moment that meeting's over.
00:13:22.900 I'm going to my intelligence.
00:13:24.980 And what are you going to do?
00:13:25.880 Get your asses in gear and go find everything on this guy.
00:13:28.880 I want you to go.
00:13:30.220 Money, just do it.
00:13:32.040 Do you think president has dirt on Bibi right now?
00:13:35.180 I think so.
00:13:35.680 Oh, for sure.
00:13:36.160 Do you think president has dirt on a bunch of people in Israel right now?
00:13:39.800 100%.
00:13:40.200 How do you think this works?
00:13:41.500 Yeah.
00:13:42.120 You want to play 3D chess?
00:13:43.560 Let's go.
00:13:43.800 You want to do that?
00:13:44.520 Let's freaking go.
00:13:45.620 You think we're not going to sit here and get assets on you?
00:13:47.820 Of course.
00:13:48.160 You think you walk on flip of water?
00:13:49.820 You think Bibi's this perfect looking guy that's getting everything done?
00:13:53.340 No.
00:13:53.820 There's dirt on him as well.
00:13:55.420 So the only thing I got when I hear stories like this, he's going to do this.
00:13:59.920 The president's going to sit there and say, I don't support this behavior.
00:14:03.200 But if he does, what are you going to do with it?
00:14:05.780 He has to protect his country.
00:14:07.300 It's part of his job.
00:14:08.520 If he doesn't do it right, they're going to kill him.
00:14:10.900 If they kill him, he won't be the first leader they do this to.
00:14:13.520 They're going to not support him.
00:14:14.700 He's going to get out.
00:14:15.880 Stuff's going to happen.
00:14:17.820 Stuff's going to happen.
00:14:18.600 And by the way, they're not letting any media in.
00:14:21.120 Go get media in Iran.
00:14:22.640 Go ahead.
00:14:23.620 Go get media in China.
00:14:24.940 Go move Facebook over there, Dayton.
00:14:26.660 Thank you.
00:14:27.140 Go move on.
00:14:27.780 What places?
00:14:30.940 There's a reason why America is the greatest country in the world.
00:14:33.420 Israel is not the greatest country in the world.
00:14:35.300 What?
00:14:36.180 Israelis live here, and they just want to go back to their homeland.
00:14:39.440 They're living here.
00:14:40.320 Why are you living here?
00:14:41.160 Because this is the greatest country in the world.
00:14:43.000 Not any other country.
00:14:44.740 Not Israel.
00:14:46.340 Not China.
00:14:47.660 Not Brazil.
00:14:48.740 Not India.
00:14:49.660 America.
00:14:50.900 Number one.
00:14:51.920 Greatest country in the world.
00:14:53.140 And for us to think that these guys are going to come and push us around?
00:14:57.520 Dude, come and put intel on me.
00:14:59.240 Guy came up to me with a threat.
00:15:01.340 I'm going to go public with this.
00:15:03.020 I said, I'm going to say it publicly.
00:15:05.340 Don't worry about it.
00:15:06.420 And then I did.
00:15:07.300 Now what are you going to do?
00:15:08.860 Hey, PHP, this is when I was running my insurance company, a couple of my guys came.
00:15:12.260 I'm going to say it from stage.
00:15:13.800 Go ahead and threaten me.
00:15:15.480 Then I get intel on you.
00:15:16.640 You want to play that game with me?
00:15:17.820 You don't think I'm going to do that to you?
00:15:18.960 I don't, I think it's naive when people say Netanyahu Trump is a, what do you call it?
00:15:25.000 Trumpet.
00:15:25.620 Oh, it is such a massive insult to the country.
00:15:32.160 It's a massive insult.
00:15:33.600 For you to go from zero to here, you were just supporting, now he's this bad guy?
00:15:40.140 You don't know all the stories behind closed doors.
00:15:42.300 You don't know what's happening.
00:15:43.840 I'm not a pro-BB guy.
00:15:45.340 You've never heard me talk complimentary of BB.
00:15:47.560 Have you ever heard me get up there and say, he's the greatest thing?
00:15:50.220 No.
00:15:50.800 I've talked, people can accuse me of talking complimentary of Putin.
00:15:53.740 Yes.
00:15:54.280 Guess what?
00:15:55.040 I have.
00:15:55.560 Guilty.
00:15:56.240 You've never heard me speak complimentary of Zelensky and you've never heard me speak complimentary
00:16:00.440 of Netanyahu.
00:16:01.140 But at the same time, I understand why Zelensky is protecting Ukraine.
00:16:05.820 I understand why they killed hundreds of thousands of people with Russia.
00:16:09.660 I understand why, you know, Netanyahu is doing what he's doing.
00:16:12.420 But that's his agenda.
00:16:13.940 And you and I don't have to agree with his agenda, but it's his agenda.
00:16:17.320 Somebody else doesn't like it, vote for someone else.
00:16:19.940 Kick them out.
00:16:20.840 You got elections in Israel, get the hell out of there and bring somebody else in that's
00:16:24.260 going to do a better job.
00:16:25.280 But till then, these kinds of things are not going away, Vinny.
00:16:28.740 And again, I feel behind closed doors, Trump is making that call and saying, hey, you crossed
00:16:35.840 the line, you don't have my support.
00:16:37.340 I don't think he's being bullied around the way people make it seem out to be.
00:16:40.040 But Trump specifically.
00:16:41.640 Yeah.
00:16:41.860 See, and I'm not thinking about the bullying part of it.
00:16:44.360 I'm thinking of the fact that, you know, you mentioned Russia, China and Iran with the
00:16:48.760 media stuff.
00:16:49.800 They're not our ally.
00:16:51.100 They're not our, we don't give them $4 billion a year.
00:16:54.420 If, when that's the case, and I'm giving Adam a bunch of money, then Adam takes my money
00:16:58.420 under my name and is doing all this type of stuff.
00:17:01.020 I'm going to say, hey, Adam, wait, time out, bro.
00:17:02.740 I need to see how you're spending my, what are you doing with my money?
00:17:05.680 By the way, let me ask you.
00:17:06.620 So you give me $4 billion a year.
00:17:08.200 Yeah.
00:17:08.780 And I'm Israel.
00:17:09.560 If I give you $4 billion.
00:17:10.700 Let's say you give me $4 billion a year.
00:17:12.300 What do you think you're getting in return?
00:17:15.440 I don't even know.
00:17:16.520 What?
00:17:16.880 Oh, really?
00:17:17.860 Meaning tactically in the Middle East?
00:17:20.560 What do you think you're getting in return if you give me $4 billion a year?
00:17:22.580 Let's actually negotiate this.
00:17:23.800 Okay.
00:17:24.260 What do you think you're getting in return if you give me $4 billion a year?
00:17:26.860 Arms purchases, cooperation.
00:17:29.020 It's a big list.
00:17:29.700 Honestly.
00:17:30.320 Intelligence, technology.
00:17:31.420 What do you think if you're giving me, what am I getting in return?
00:17:34.260 You think it's just a handout?
00:17:36.560 No, no.
00:17:37.040 I'm saying if they're strategically set up in the Middle East where we have an ally in
00:17:40.980 the Middle East and we're giving them, I mean.
00:17:42.980 What do you think you get in return?
00:17:44.620 I honestly don't even know.
00:17:45.700 Really?
00:17:46.040 I swear.
00:17:46.580 So where do you get intel from?
00:17:48.420 Where do we get intel on all the Middle Eastern countries around?
00:17:50.920 Where?
00:17:51.220 Okay, there.
00:17:52.120 I'm saying $4 billion is a lot of money.
00:17:54.180 No, $4 billion is actually not a lot of money when it comes down to government.
00:17:57.540 It's really not.
00:17:58.420 Literally not.
00:17:58.840 A lot of money is, Apple is agreeing to invest $600 billion.
00:18:05.540 That's a lot of money.
00:18:06.980 $4 billion, when you're talking at the government level, it's what $40,000 is to civilians.
00:18:15.000 That's not a lot of money.
00:18:16.460 I'm being very serious with you.
00:18:17.660 It's not a lot of money.
00:18:18.740 But what they're getting in return is certain assets that they want.
00:18:22.160 By the way, going back and looking at all the terms on how they negotiate stuff with Clinton
00:18:28.860 and all the other guys, historically, I've said this on the record, Israel's always negotiated
00:18:36.120 favorably.
00:18:37.440 Whose fault is that?
00:18:39.320 Politician's fault.
00:18:40.980 Israel's always over-negotiated America.
00:18:44.060 And they've owned a bunch of people in America.
00:18:47.200 Aggressively.
00:18:48.040 Yes.
00:18:48.740 On the record.
00:18:49.660 They've done that.
00:18:50.360 No question about it.
00:18:51.200 So to me, my trust goes into a candidate like Trump who is in, if you voted him in, you
00:19:00.340 expect perfection within six months, you should have never voted him.
00:19:03.480 You're in the wrong business.
00:19:05.180 What he's done in six months, no president's done in two years.
00:19:08.100 Let's see what he's going to do in the next couple of years.
00:19:10.360 But I'm not convinced he's going to sit there being pushed around.
00:19:12.820 And I think he's renegotiating a lot of different things.
00:19:14.940 And I actually think a part of it he has, Bibi needing him.
00:19:20.260 Bibi's never faced an unpredictable candidate like Trump.
00:19:24.580 Ever.
00:19:25.040 He's never faced an unpredictable candidate like Trump.
00:19:27.000 So I'm going to ask you a question.
00:19:27.840 With what Bibi wants, okay?
00:19:30.340 Because this is going to the hostages, right?
00:19:32.220 They want the hostages.
00:19:33.080 I understand that 100%.
00:19:34.340 What's the end goal?
00:19:35.340 Meaning, how do you think you're going to get them back from terrorists if you're going
00:19:38.900 to go attack?
00:19:39.640 You know, it's the fate of the terrorists.
00:19:42.100 It's not going to be like a negotiation.
00:19:43.540 If you're going to go into war, he knows that they're going to die at that point.
00:19:47.260 But I imagine, like, if you're going in and you're like, okay, enough is enough.
00:19:51.020 We're going all in.
00:19:52.200 Those hostages are going to.
00:19:54.140 What did Reagan do when he was negotiating with terrorists?
00:19:58.120 The famous line you said earlier.
00:19:59.420 We don't negotiate with terrorists.
00:20:00.800 So what do you do?
00:20:01.580 Like, so Reagan said that Reagan's a great president.
00:20:03.800 Bibi says that Bibi's a bad person.
00:20:06.460 What's the difference here?
00:20:07.540 I'm actually curious.
00:20:08.200 No, I'm just saying, I'm saying, what is this point to look like?
00:20:11.140 We say you don't negotiate with terrorists, but another guy says it.
00:20:13.860 Oh, no.
00:20:14.800 Do we forget Reagan says we don't negotiate with terrorists?
00:20:17.980 Do we forget some of the stuff that we said?
00:20:20.120 Do we not celebrate when the stuff happened with Ghazam Soleimani?
00:20:22.660 I don't understand the oversensitivity topic with Israel.
00:20:26.920 I have a very hard time understanding it.
00:20:28.600 I get it.
00:20:29.280 Trust me.
00:20:29.800 They overnegotiate a lot of deals.
00:20:31.680 But it's like overly, overly, overly sensitive topic when it comes there.
00:20:38.200 As if they rule the world.
00:20:39.860 And they don't.
00:20:40.880 And Vinny.
00:20:41.580 Yeah.
00:20:42.140 It's, it's, it's, and by the way.
00:20:44.800 I'm not saying they rule the world.
00:20:46.240 No.
00:20:46.380 I'm just saying when it comes to America, again, I'm America first.
00:20:49.780 Yeah.
00:20:50.160 Period.
00:20:50.740 I'm not America only.
00:20:52.360 Okay.
00:20:52.620 I'm just saying when I see bad stuff happening, I get it.
00:20:55.120 But Pat, I was in during 9-11, which that's a whole nother conversation.
00:20:58.660 No, you're not America only.
00:20:59.980 You're not America first.
00:21:00.620 I'm also America first.
00:21:01.440 We're both America first.
00:21:02.260 A hundred percent.
00:21:02.900 We're, you know, when we, when we talk about this stuff, to me, I watch the over sensationalism
00:21:10.060 of what's going on with this, of turning it into something bigger than it really is.
00:21:13.760 And then I also meet the guys that come that from Israel and they tell me how perfect everything
00:21:18.000 is.
00:21:18.160 I'm like, dude, stop, stop, stop, stop.
00:21:20.900 Don't, don't do that with me.
00:21:22.220 Like, oh my God, everything is perfect.
00:21:24.380 No, I get it.
00:21:25.920 I know what you're doing.
00:21:26.800 I know what your motives are.
00:21:27.760 I fully understand why you're supporting Israel.
00:21:29.620 And I respect the fact that you support Israel.
00:21:31.560 I get it.
00:21:32.400 Totally understand.
00:21:33.620 But I'm, I'm banking on the guy that I got on his bus.
00:21:40.300 Unless the example of coach K Trump, that he's going to be able to negotiate favorably
00:21:45.780 better than any other president we've ever had before.
00:21:48.400 That doesn't mean on a hundred percent of all issues because that's called impossible.
00:21:52.940 And every commentator on news media podcaster that acts like this is what he should do.
00:21:59.300 Let's put you in there and see what you would do within a second.
00:22:02.060 Go ahead.
00:22:02.660 You go get the job.
00:22:03.640 They make it seem like they would be incredible presidents negotiating everything perfectly.
00:22:07.940 No, this game is hard and he's the best one we've had so far in the way he's negotiating.
00:22:12.620 Doesn't mean you have to support everything he's doing.
00:22:14.540 Doesn't mean you can't criticize him.
00:22:16.120 Doesn't mean you can't sit there.
00:22:17.300 I'm the guy that at this panel gave the lowest score after a hundred days to Trump.
00:22:20.660 And I get a message from a bunch of liberals telling me, hey, great job on your analysis.
00:22:24.080 I give a C minus and a bunch of Trump people are pissed off at me.
00:22:27.120 And you give me an A minus on that.
00:22:28.560 I give me an A minus.
00:22:29.240 I give a C minus.
00:22:30.880 You know what I got?
00:22:31.700 Messages I got.
00:22:32.780 What a freaking trade.
00:22:33.660 I'm like, no, this is my position.
00:22:35.140 I'm not trying to win or make friends.
00:22:36.740 I'm telling you where I'm at.
00:22:37.940 You don't like it?
00:22:38.700 Go watch somebody else.
00:22:39.500 They gave me an A plus.
00:22:40.280 I'm not that guy.
00:22:41.480 But when it flips, I'll also give that score, Tom.
00:22:44.040 Yeah.
00:22:44.280 And in terms of strategy, Vinny, I have killed all the hostages is usually the last words
00:22:52.560 of an enemy that's about to be overrun because you're being very careful.
00:22:56.860 Why?
00:22:57.260 Because there's hostages.
00:22:58.300 You're trying to be surgical.
00:22:59.860 You're trying to get to the tunnels because there's hostages.
00:23:02.340 You're trying to go door to door and be very precise about who you take out because there's
00:23:07.440 hostages.
00:23:08.180 The minute you take pictures and said, we've killed all the hostages, so there I unleash
00:23:15.000 hell.
00:23:15.340 Yeah.
00:23:15.500 It's a green light.
00:23:16.740 Right.
00:23:17.060 For sure.
00:23:17.780 So that's not usually the way terrorists operate.
00:23:20.900 At the core of terrorism is cowardice.
00:23:22.880 And I've killed all the hostages is usually an incredibly weak negotiating position that
00:23:29.080 results in horrors.
00:23:30.940 Yeah.
00:23:31.140 And you know what?
00:23:31.640 Honestly, on this topic, I want to hear nothing from Adam.
00:23:34.100 That's true.
00:23:34.760 That's true.
00:23:35.340 I fully understand why you wouldn't want to hear from me.
00:23:37.700 Go ahead, Adam.
00:23:38.620 Well, let me be, when it comes to Israel and what's going on in Gaza, let me be completely
00:23:44.480 logical and not emotional because we saw what happened last time when I got emotional
00:23:49.360 and I freaked out.
00:23:50.560 So let me just be completely logical.
00:23:52.080 Number one, the Muslim world does not care about Palestinians.
00:23:55.960 If they did, they would take them in.
00:23:58.460 Much like Israel took in people from literally countless countries, dozens of countries after
00:24:05.660 the Holocaust, not one Arab or Muslim country has stepped up to take in Palestinians.
00:24:12.800 Egypt hasn't done it.
00:24:14.080 Jordan hasn't done it.
00:24:15.260 Saudi hasn't done it.
00:24:16.540 Iran certainly hasn't done it.
00:24:18.300 Lebanon, Syria, the list goes on.
00:24:20.400 You know who has done it?
00:24:21.340 France, UK, the woke world.
00:24:24.960 If I was advising Bibi Netanyahu, here's what I would tell him.
00:24:28.340 Keep doing what you're doing.
00:24:31.120 Do not listen to one single iota of word from the woke mob.
00:24:36.640 They have no clue what it's like to live literally next to terrorists.
00:24:42.520 You know, usually when you lose a war, there's a clear winner and loser.
00:24:48.700 Israel is not allowed to win a war.
00:24:51.160 The best they can do is draw.
00:24:53.400 Why is Israel, which they're doing, responsible for feeding the country they're at war with?
00:24:59.960 Is Russia feeding Ukraine?
00:25:02.340 Is Thailand feeding Cambodia?
00:25:05.140 Is Pakistan feeding India?
00:25:07.400 Zero.
00:25:08.220 Did America feed Afghanistan or feed Iraq?
00:25:12.340 Why is Israel expected to feed the country that is sworn to kill them?
00:25:18.220 Now, you talk about negotiating with terrorists.
00:25:21.440 They're literally negotiating with a terrorist group that is sworn to kill them.
00:25:25.820 And now you want...
00:25:26.780 Okay, so let's go there.
00:25:28.760 Palestine deserves their own state.
00:25:30.280 Let's give them their own state.
00:25:31.400 Who's running the state?
00:25:32.800 Well, it's Hamas.
00:25:34.500 So now you're going to have Hamas, the terrorist organization, run the country you want?
00:25:40.360 To me, it's a complete non-starter.
00:25:42.360 Bibi and Trump, what you say goes.
00:25:44.400 That's it.
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