Valuetainment - December 11, 2025


＂It's IMPORTANT To Be Hot＂ - Are Good Looks SECRETLY Boosting POWER In Business？


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

197.40709

Word Count

3,426

Sentence Count

329

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'm going to get into the next story here I want to get to.
00:00:02.480 So this next story, maybe it doesn't have to do with economy.
00:00:05.240 Maybe it does.
00:00:06.320 Being hot is now a job requirement.
00:00:09.820 How do you think I got this job, Pat?
00:00:14.280 So in the age of Ozempic and micro lifts, the pretty privileged gap is growing.
00:00:21.600 Emily Reynolds runs a PR company.
00:00:23.800 And with that responsibility comes the pressure to look young, she tells me.
00:00:27.420 She's 44 but often passes as younger.
00:00:30.760 Rob, can we see what she looks like?
00:00:32.660 She often passes as younger, and that's by design.
00:00:35.860 Reynolds has tried Botox, filler laser facials, hydro facials, and invests in expensive skincare products.
00:00:45.020 She has a Peloton and does intense workouts, this LaBerry's boot camp.
00:00:50.780 She's walking the precarious line, and she tells me between looking mature enough to show
00:00:56.460 she's an experienced professional who can run and mentor a team and young enough to be relevant.
00:01:01.640 Even as she thinks critically about beauty standards imposed on women,
00:01:06.280 Reynolds worries about what would happen to her business and professional reputation
00:01:09.540 if she abandoned her rituals and routines.
00:01:11.680 And what's going to happen as she continues to age.
00:01:16.300 How long will I be quote-unquote publicly relevant, perceived as attractive, Reynolds says.
00:01:23.080 And when I'm not, what happens to me professionally?
00:01:26.040 That's the thing I think about daily.
00:01:28.100 What a thing to be thinking about daily with that.
00:01:30.280 Do you think it's extremely important to be hot if it's a job requirement today?
00:01:37.000 Meaning the better you look, the more likely it is that you're going to get the job.
00:01:39.900 Dan, what do you think?
00:01:41.320 Absolutely.
00:01:42.500 Absolutely.
00:01:43.300 Yes.
00:01:44.040 Okay, so what...
00:01:44.800 It's not, it's no coincidence that the former personal assistant to Gates,
00:01:51.700 Jobs when he was alive, and more recently Elon is the same woman.
00:01:58.460 She's written a book and how she's set up to go after Jobs first,
00:02:02.820 and then Gates, and then Elon.
00:02:07.480 She didn't have any kids with Elon, because Elon likes to have a lot of kids,
00:02:11.520 but not with her.
00:02:12.920 And most of the top assistants, female I'm talking about,
00:02:17.820 to the big Wall Street guys are all good looking.
00:02:20.140 There's no old hags, you know, that look like Volkswagens.
00:02:24.040 Do you think it helps guys as well, or to guys it doesn't matter,
00:02:28.760 whether they're good looking or not, to make money?
00:02:31.000 Does it help to be good looking, to be in shape, and business for men?
00:02:35.840 Depends.
00:02:36.600 My Hall of Fame doesn't have one six-pack on it.
00:02:39.920 I've got 145 or 50 guys, two girls.
00:02:43.700 Not one six-pack?
00:02:44.580 Not one.
00:02:46.060 Not one.
00:02:46.720 I've got some guys that take steroids and have big muscles, but no six-pack.
00:02:51.060 Got it.
00:02:51.520 Adam, what do you think about this?
00:02:52.800 The question is what?
00:02:54.040 This lady?
00:02:54.700 Give me the question.
00:02:55.540 The question is, how important is it to look good?
00:02:58.140 Does it help you advance in your career?
00:02:59.420 Hell yeah, it does.
00:03:01.520 You think I know anything about anything?
00:03:03.720 I'm just good looking.
00:03:04.960 No, the reality is this.
00:03:06.700 A lot of people may, you know, I'm reading the comment section out of it.
00:03:10.880 Very ugly.
00:03:11.520 No, it's not about very ugly.
00:03:12.860 They're worried about you having to use the bathroom every single podcast.
00:03:15.140 I'm drinking a lot of water, but my voice sounds good.
00:03:17.940 Here's the reality.
00:03:18.780 There is something called pretty privilege,
00:03:20.180 and it affects women way more than it affects men.
00:03:22.580 So women have to understand this, that inner beauty and outer beauty is completely different.
00:03:27.740 Outer beauty will get you in the door anywhere, but inner beauty will keep you in the house
00:03:32.440 or keep you in a job or keep you employed.
00:03:35.500 So there's a lot of hot girls relying on pretty privilege these days, but that only goes so far.
00:03:40.400 So what's your character?
00:03:41.280 What's your DNA?
00:03:41.920 What's your values?
00:03:42.560 What's your principles?
00:03:43.880 Just being hot will not keep you there long enough.
00:03:46.700 You need to do more than that.
00:03:47.980 Now, as far as a man, for a man to have status, you have multiple factors that you can rely on other than looks.
00:03:54.240 Looks, if you ask women, are not even the number one thing.
00:03:57.820 It's status.
00:03:59.300 It's money.
00:04:00.460 It's your game, so to speak.
00:04:03.220 Are you funny?
00:04:03.920 Are you humorous?
00:04:04.920 Are you bombastic?
00:04:06.220 Do you got a swag?
00:04:07.380 Do you have a castle?
00:04:08.300 You got a castle.
00:04:09.400 Doesn't matter if you're a couple pounds overweight.
00:04:11.180 Okay, so the reality is I don't even know if this chick's married, and not that it matters per se,
00:04:17.460 but if she is not married, you may want to take a step back from your career
00:04:22.620 and focus on family and kids before it's too late.
00:04:25.760 Who is this girl anyways, Rob?
00:04:27.860 Is she supposed to be hot?
00:04:29.260 I don't know, Dan.
00:04:30.580 I don't know.
00:04:31.480 Is this the girl?
00:04:32.320 I miss this out of here.
00:04:33.340 Can you go to another one that says Emily Roberts?
00:04:36.580 Emily Reynolds.
00:04:37.700 Is it Roberts or Reynolds?
00:04:39.480 Reynolds.
00:04:39.840 No relation to Ryan.
00:04:42.180 No.
00:04:42.680 Okay, Tom, where are you at with this?
00:04:45.100 So I believe that there is something to coming into an interview and looking sharp.
00:04:50.540 Okay.
00:04:51.900 Looking sharp.
00:04:52.920 But I'll tell you, the further along I've been in my career, the more I've looked at it,
00:04:58.020 what can you do, when can you do it, and who can I call to confirm it?
00:05:02.100 I thought you were going to say, who can you do?
00:05:03.900 I was like, Tom, what can you do?
00:05:05.880 When can you do it?
00:05:06.600 Who can you do it?
00:05:07.680 Tom.
00:05:08.320 Literally.
00:05:08.680 People have families.
00:05:09.580 I've got Sir Dan Pena here, you're going to say things like this, please.
00:05:13.260 That's it.
00:05:13.860 Now, if you come in looking disheveled, that makes a difference.
00:05:17.820 But if you come in looking sharp, you don't have to be handsome or particularly beautiful
00:05:21.960 by, like, modeling standards.
00:05:23.800 You just need to be sharp and put together like you take care of yourself.
00:05:27.100 I'll tell you, there is a bias, and it is a factual bias, and no one's going to want to
00:05:32.420 hear this, and this is not fat shaming, but people that are incredibly overweight, there
00:05:36.880 is a perception about employers, are you taking care of yourself, and if you care enough to
00:05:41.440 take care of yourself, will you care enough to take care of the job that I'm hiring you
00:05:45.580 for, and what's going on here?
00:05:48.700 So there is that bias.
00:05:50.260 But you don't have to look like a model.
00:05:51.820 You have to come in and say, this is my background.
00:05:54.120 This is what I've accomplished.
00:05:55.180 This is what I'm capable of.
00:05:56.600 Here's my references.
00:05:57.720 I'm ready to go.
00:05:59.160 And that is, and I think that's the attitude.
00:06:02.540 Now, younger people, do women that are more beautiful get hired into a role like an assistant
00:06:09.660 or like this?
00:06:10.320 Sure, I'd be a fool to say that that doesn't happen, but for the broad spectrum, we're looking
00:06:16.200 for people to get the job done, not to surround ourselves with everybody we work out with at
00:06:21.000 Equinox.
00:06:22.600 Okay, all right.
00:06:23.860 So to me, I think when it comes down to this, you have to, I used to work at Bally's, and
00:06:28.940 when I would work at Bally's, guys would come in, and I would have some fun with them,
00:06:33.680 but I would also be, it was 50% fun, 50% series.
00:06:38.100 I would have them stand up.
00:06:39.100 Yeah, I'm like, okay, so are you single?
00:06:42.280 I am.
00:06:43.340 When's the last time you had a steady relationship?
00:06:45.420 Not in a while.
00:06:46.480 Do you own a gym membership?
00:06:47.540 Obviously, I don't.
00:06:48.480 Okay, you look at me like that.
00:06:49.720 I said, look, man, what are you going to do to make this work?
00:06:53.220 Okay?
00:06:54.000 So then I'm like, listen, can I just talk to you openly?
00:06:56.800 Yes.
00:06:57.160 I said, stop trying to grow a beard.
00:06:59.280 You don't have one.
00:07:00.420 It doesn't look good.
00:07:02.000 You either have it, do it.
00:07:03.940 You don't have it.
00:07:04.700 You don't have it.
00:07:05.680 Don't do it.
00:07:06.800 All right.
00:07:07.200 Number two, what is this hairdo you got here?
00:07:10.380 What is this all about?
00:07:11.480 Like, what are you doing with this hairdo?
00:07:13.160 I said, we got to get rid of this hairdo.
00:07:14.600 It's a pretty shitty hairdo.
00:07:15.620 We got to fix this thing here, right?
00:07:16.740 It's not going to work.
00:07:18.080 Go to somebody, and I would introduce them to one of my guys.
00:07:21.080 Go get a nicer haircut.
00:07:22.480 This is embarrassing.
00:07:23.320 You can't go around looking like this.
00:07:24.420 No girl's going to want to date you, and if she does, I would question her integrity, like
00:07:27.840 what she's doing this for.
00:07:29.920 Then it's the way you dress.
00:07:31.440 Tell me how you dress.
00:07:32.420 Tell me what you're wearing.
00:07:33.740 What is unique about your brand?
00:07:35.780 When you walk into a room, what's going to be different about you?
00:07:38.020 What do you dress that's just different than everybody else?
00:07:40.660 What do you do?
00:07:41.600 Okay, great.
00:07:42.120 Here's what I do.
00:07:43.280 Working out.
00:07:44.040 Energy.
00:07:44.500 Do you smile?
00:07:45.380 Do you take care of yourself?
00:07:46.840 And I think this is like even when we licensed 60,000 insurance agents in 50 states, so I
00:07:52.100 had a lot of younger guys that would come in, and I've had many conversations where I
00:07:56.480 would sit down.
00:07:56.960 I had a kid.
00:07:57.980 I would say, first of all, you smell horrible, okay?
00:08:00.600 So hygiene is extremely critical.
00:08:02.760 If you can't figure out your hygiene, I don't know if you realize or not, it's hard to be
00:08:06.280 around you.
00:08:06.820 And stop talking to me like this.
00:08:09.460 Hi, Patrick.
00:08:10.820 You smell.
00:08:11.900 Fix your breath.
00:08:12.940 Have people tell you if you have your breath.
00:08:14.580 Have one of these, what do you call these?
00:08:16.080 These mint things that you put in, but that's a shortcut as well.
00:08:19.280 Floss two, three times a day.
00:08:20.680 Have these flossing stuff that the stuff gets out of your teeth because that's what smells
00:08:23.880 bad.
00:08:24.720 As you get older, you got to take care of this stuff, and you got to figure out what you
00:08:27.260 got to do for your breath to smell better.
00:08:29.600 Hygiene.
00:08:30.160 Blow dry yourself after a shower, okay?
00:08:32.380 Blow dry any area that sweat stays there.
00:08:35.020 Just don't burn your private parts, but blow dry yourself, right?
00:08:38.220 Blow dry, not curling iron.
00:08:39.420 I'm actually being that serious with you.
00:08:40.700 Blow dry yourself.
00:08:42.480 Blow dry between your toes, on your feet.
00:08:45.300 That's what makes your feet smell because it's nasty.
00:08:48.620 Blow dry it after you get it because it's wet.
00:08:50.540 Yeast stuff stays in there.
00:08:52.520 And then it's like, use this deodorant.
00:08:54.400 Try this shampoo.
00:08:55.800 Try this ax.
00:08:57.120 Take a shower.
00:08:58.180 Do it this way.
00:08:59.160 And then eventually, three, six months later, they smell better.
00:09:02.660 Give them a cologne.
00:09:03.580 Hey, start off with this Perry Ellis, this 112 cologne, this Jupe cologne, whatever the old
00:09:06.980 school colognes were.
00:09:07.600 Not the, you know, Crete clones.
00:09:09.400 You're not going to go around handling Crete or Stefano colognes to people, but maybe.
00:09:12.040 Not stop with a couple of the 70s.
00:09:14.020 No, but I'm just being very honest with you.
00:09:15.280 And then eventually, you're like, all right, so look what you look like.
00:09:18.440 You smell better.
00:09:19.240 You look better.
00:09:19.780 You're taking care.
00:09:20.320 And then you see the confidence.
00:09:21.360 And then all of a sudden, they're walking like this.
00:09:22.740 You've been doing this your entire life to younger guys.
00:09:24.420 And you're like, all right.
00:09:25.360 Now he's got a girlfriend.
00:09:26.840 Now he walks in a different way.
00:09:28.420 Now he's got a little bit of a swagger.
00:09:30.120 Now he's got self-worth.
00:09:31.220 Now he's got some money in the bank.
00:09:32.300 Now he's got some.
00:09:33.180 And then good things start happening.
00:09:34.200 But I think the comment, Tom, that you made, I think it's extremely right because Tom's message applies to 90% of people.
00:09:44.600 If you're handsome, you're good looking, you know what you can do many times?
00:09:48.280 You can have shitty hair.
00:09:50.660 Okay?
00:09:51.140 You cannot fix everything on your hair, your face.
00:09:54.580 There's these people that can, they wake up and they look good.
00:09:57.140 Look at Rob.
00:09:57.660 To that 1% of the world.
00:10:00.180 But to everybody else, I think it is important.
00:10:02.420 I think it works.
00:10:03.060 And Dan, I'm going to give you the final thoughts on this year.
00:10:05.220 You have two times I make a first impression.
00:10:07.760 One, when you walk in the door, she walks in the door.
00:10:10.380 The next is when you open your big mouth.
00:10:12.840 Okay?
00:10:13.580 A lot of people can pass the look test.
00:10:15.260 That's a good point.
00:10:15.880 But then they stick their foot in their mouth.
00:10:18.240 And so communication skills are paramount.
00:10:21.140 And the current generation, actually the last two generations, have piss poor communication skills.
00:10:26.800 Bill Ackman, worth $9.2 billion, the other day gave a tip to people on X and it went viral.
00:10:31.440 He said, here's a tip to young men.
00:10:33.960 When you want to ask a girl out, ask her, may I meet you?
00:10:37.800 Okay?
00:10:38.640 And the amount of people that tried to troll him for saying, may I meet you, was nonstop.
00:10:45.080 He got trolled nonstop all day.
00:10:47.120 What is your line?
00:10:48.920 If that's what Ackman says, what would Dan Pena say?
00:10:52.140 As a single man or as an 80-year-old man?
00:10:54.300 No, no, no.
00:10:54.780 As an 80-year-old, you can't get away with anything.
00:10:56.880 But as a single man.
00:10:57.620 Okay, your place or mine?
00:11:00.620 Really?
00:11:02.120 That's the opening.
00:11:03.040 She's like, I live in a one-bedroom.
00:11:04.820 I'm in a castle.
00:11:06.240 Okay, your place or mine?
00:11:07.780 Come meet me in my crib.
00:11:11.180 Which do you, Rob?
00:11:12.220 Do you like castles?
00:11:13.240 Can you run a poll?
00:11:14.520 Which do you prefer?
00:11:16.000 May I meet you or put your place or mine?
00:11:19.480 Run a poll.
00:11:20.120 Go with Dan Pena on this.
00:11:21.260 Fellas, ladies.
00:11:22.340 Which one?
00:11:22.960 Let's see what's going to happen here.
00:11:24.000 Can you pull my picture of my wife and I that is in our state?
00:11:28.020 He'll find it.
00:11:29.160 Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:11:31.220 Rob, start that poll.
00:11:32.360 I'm curious, folks.
00:11:33.040 Start voting.
00:11:33.640 May I meet you?
00:11:34.660 When did that line start working?
00:11:37.300 Dan, when did that line start working?
00:11:38.760 When I was 21.
00:11:41.120 Once I had a castle.
00:11:42.260 Once you had a rolls.
00:11:43.160 No, no, no, no.
00:11:44.020 Hang on.
00:11:44.500 Once you had a...
00:11:45.160 I had a rolls when I was 24.
00:11:46.940 Oh, okay.
00:11:47.620 So when I was commissioned an officer, a young guy at NATO, I mean, your place or mine?
00:11:52.780 And actually, I got it from a woman asked me during a lunch break, you know, your place
00:11:58.700 or mine?
00:11:59.680 And so I...
00:12:00.080 She asked you.
00:12:01.260 That's when you were working in NATO?
00:12:02.560 Yeah.
00:12:02.900 That was that nice Russian woman that said, tell me all about your job.
00:12:06.660 Which picture is it, by the way?
00:12:08.080 Is there a picture of you?
00:12:09.060 No, no, wait.
00:12:11.500 The one...
00:12:13.400 Younger picture of...
00:12:17.500 No.
00:12:19.700 Can you go to my website?
00:12:20.860 Oh, wait, stop, stop, stop.
00:12:23.220 See those pictures on the right?
00:12:25.240 That's my wife last year, and that's my wife 30 years ago.
00:12:28.140 All the way to the right?
00:12:29.000 The one there, that, those two.
00:12:31.240 30 years ago, last year.
00:12:33.480 Wow.
00:12:33.840 Rocking the same vibe.
00:12:35.700 Good for her.
00:12:36.100 She used to be a big sailor.
00:12:37.240 She was winning that race across the Atlantic.
00:12:39.480 And that's serious.
00:12:40.180 She's wearing a sailing harness.
00:12:41.600 That's like big-time sailing.
00:12:42.820 Yeah, she is.
00:12:43.580 Well, she was a big-time sailor, but she looks the same.
00:12:45.940 That's when the boat's up at 44 degrees, and you just lean in into the wind.
00:12:50.540 You can add one thing.
00:12:51.340 Okay, I'm just imagining, you know, the guy walks into Bally's for the first time, and
00:12:55.060 he's...
00:12:55.460 Bally's is...
00:12:56.060 Is that a...
00:12:56.980 Bally's is...
00:12:57.960 Bally Total Fitness.
00:12:59.180 I don't know if you remember.
00:12:59.780 That's what people...
00:13:00.300 Nautilus Bally's.
00:13:01.500 I'm just imagining the guy walks into...
00:13:03.540 Your place or mine is winning.
00:13:05.960 I agree.
00:13:05.980 That's swag right there.
00:13:06.660 May I meet you.
00:13:08.120 Your place or mine.
00:13:09.060 It's close.
00:13:10.340 It's close.
00:13:10.740 That's 1,400 people just voted in the last minute.
00:13:12.560 Adam was as close as mine the other day to like or hate him.
00:13:15.500 Adam.
00:13:16.160 Can I meet you is woke.
00:13:18.440 May I meet you is woke.
00:13:19.960 Meet me here is...
00:13:21.360 May I meet you is woke.
00:13:22.840 Your place or mine.
00:13:24.160 And I know Fortune 50 CEOs that you know the names, that they can make it vulgar, more vulgar,
00:13:32.240 no, more vulgar than your place or mine.
00:13:35.280 I mean, they...
00:13:37.240 And that's just...
00:13:38.840 Let's not go there, because then we're going to trigger Tom, and then...
00:13:41.620 Well, the thing I was going to say...
00:13:43.880 Some men are pigs, man.
00:13:45.120 Some men are pigs.
00:13:45.960 I know, but they've been pigs since caveman.
00:13:50.000 That's exactly right.
00:13:50.860 When they bonked her on the head and dragged her back.
00:13:52.840 Exactly.
00:13:53.340 I should have lived then.
00:14:00.360 Bonk.
00:14:01.000 Donk.
00:14:01.820 All right.
00:14:02.460 What I was going to say is this.
00:14:03.360 I can just picture the guy that walks into Bally's and Pat walks in and goes, you're fat,
00:14:07.760 you smell, your hair is all messed up, your hygiene.
00:14:09.920 I would be amazed how many of these guys came back being thankful.
00:14:12.240 But that's my point, is that they're open to feedback and they're coachable.
00:14:15.320 That's the one thing I've noticed between certain men and not certain men, and certainly
00:14:20.060 between men and women, is that men are more comfortable being offended.
00:14:24.680 Guys will tell each other, we bust balls, bro, you're fat, you're gross, clean it up.
00:14:28.260 And it's like, all right, cool, I will.
00:14:29.980 Women can't say to each other.
00:14:32.380 That's why they're all tens.
00:14:34.220 Okay?
00:14:35.000 How do I look?
00:14:35.800 I'm a ten, I'm a ten, I'm a ten.
00:14:36.880 Again, women don't want to be offended.
00:14:38.520 For a man, you need to be comfortable being offended.
00:14:41.480 And people, you need to be told, you're fat, you're sloppy, clean it up, you're a loser.
00:14:45.360 Don't end up being a loser.
00:14:46.840 That's how you motivate young men.
00:14:48.460 That's a different value.
00:14:49.200 Men are willing to engage in self-deprecation, and women aren't.
00:14:54.280 I've seen, not that we need to rehash this, some of the things you've said online, it's
00:14:58.700 not for the faint of heart.
00:15:00.960 No.
00:15:01.140 But you say, F you, clean it up, stop being a, da-da-da-ba-ba-ba-ba, and that's how men
00:15:06.100 actually receive feedback, right?
00:15:09.020 Like, if you've had a football coach, or a basketball coach, or a drill sergeant, they
00:15:13.380 go, get down, mother, and you do it.
00:15:15.820 Women don't respond to that.
00:15:16.940 You can't go to a girl and say, you're fat, you're ugly, you're overweight, clean it up.
00:15:20.060 They're going to start crying in the corner.
00:15:22.020 For a guy, that's going to make or break.
00:15:24.560 If you say that to a guy and they clean it up, that means they're resilient.
00:15:27.460 If they start crying in the corner, then they're weak, and they'll probably never get
00:15:30.720 laid anyway.
00:15:31.440 Forbes magazine put out a survey last year that 80% of employees throughout the United
00:15:37.380 States of America cry at least one time a week.
00:15:40.780 80% of employees?
00:15:42.320 Employees from below the chairman and CEO, the C-suite, I guess they call it.
00:15:50.160 Cry.
00:15:50.520 Cry.
00:15:50.920 So I asked my two kids to work for big companies, and my daughter, who's 39 now, she was 38,
00:15:57.380 and she says, more than once a week, Dad.
00:15:59.800 And it's mostly men cry at work.
00:16:03.340 That's where we are.
00:16:04.320 Well, I don't want to say this publicly, but last week, I saw Adam in the gym.
00:16:09.500 This happens routinely on Fridays.
00:16:11.300 He was crying.
00:16:12.540 Normally, it's Wednesdays, because it's like, you know, Brandon, I'm like, Adam.
00:16:16.400 But normally, honestly, like the solution, one good hug wraps it up.
00:16:19.600 Thank you.
00:16:19.960 Right?
00:16:20.400 Or a pow pow.
00:16:21.380 Either way, I suck it up.
00:16:22.660 No, obviously, that's a joke.
00:16:24.400 But the point of what you're saying here is taking the feedback from somebody that's
00:16:30.680 giving you straight up.
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00:16:37.980 to make it fast.
00:16:39.420 We had the choice to make it cheap.
00:16:41.380 We chose neither.
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00:16:45.320 We chose true Italian craftsmanship.
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00:16:50.780 We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail, and we chose the finest quality
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