Valuetainment - July 17, 2025


＂Jeffrey Epstein Worked For Israel＂ - Tucker Carlson TORCHES Bondi Over Epstein Files Fall Out


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

200.72182

Word Count

2,651

Sentence Count

260

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode, Tucker and Rob discuss the Epstein scandal and how it has impacted the way we think about the FBI and the Justice Department, and how they should have handled it differently. They also discuss why the FBI should have been more transparent in their handling of the scandal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Here's Tucker, okay, he's at Turning Point USA, and go for it, Rob.
00:00:05.020 Not acceptable.
00:00:06.700 And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American.
00:00:12.580 And we have every right to ask, on whose behalf was he working?
00:00:17.500 How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree
00:00:23.180 to having multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan?
00:00:30.500 Where did all the money come from?
00:00:32.440 And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried.
00:00:36.300 And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government.
00:00:43.160 Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty.
00:00:53.180 There is nothing wrong with saying that.
00:00:55.720 There is nothing hateful about saying that.
00:00:57.920 There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that.
00:00:59.460 There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that.
00:01:01.460 I've spent my entire life pretty much in Washington where I knew and loved a number of people,
00:01:06.300 including one very close person, who worked at CIA.
00:01:09.800 That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things.
00:01:15.600 Murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting U.S. president.
00:01:19.460 It's got a whole trail of crimes.
00:01:21.640 That doesn't make me a disloyal American.
00:01:23.260 It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense.
00:01:25.360 I was born here.
00:01:25.960 My family's been here for hundreds of years.
00:01:27.260 I love this country.
00:01:28.460 That's why I live here.
00:01:30.140 So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater.
00:01:35.160 It makes you a free person.
00:01:37.640 It makes you a citizen.
00:01:38.780 You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave.
00:01:43.240 You're a citizen.
00:01:44.740 And you have a right to expect that your government will not act against your interests.
00:01:50.000 And you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your
00:01:54.760 interests.
00:01:55.620 That's not creepy.
00:01:57.480 It shouldn't be forbidden.
00:01:59.020 And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that.
00:02:04.860 This is this clip right here is where they talk about Bondi and Bongino in the fallout.
00:02:08.980 OK, play that one here.
00:02:10.520 Do you think Dan is upset because his integrity is being questioned now over her mistakes?
00:02:14.900 Oh, my gosh.
00:02:15.880 So you're Dan and you're a media figure and you've got one of the biggest podcasts in
00:02:20.600 the country and you're making tons of money and you're having a great time, which he was.
00:02:25.220 You just built this brand new studio in Florida.
00:02:26.940 You work with your wife, who you really like, which he does.
00:02:29.380 And you get the call saying you'd be deputy FBI director.
00:02:32.180 And you're like, I love Donald Trump.
00:02:33.420 I love this country.
00:02:34.220 I will, you know, cut my pay by into a tenth of what it was.
00:02:39.460 And I will leave my house and move to D.C., which is a kind of prison sentence itself.
00:02:44.220 And I will do this because I love the president.
00:02:46.140 I love the country.
00:02:46.740 And you're there a few months.
00:02:48.460 And all of a sudden, everybody thinks you're covering up Epstein's crimes.
00:02:52.300 And it kind of wrecks Dan's career like he can't go.
00:02:54.820 It's going to be very hard at this point.
00:02:56.780 I mean, things may change.
00:02:57.860 But as of today, pretty hard for Dan to go back to his podcast audience and be like,
00:03:02.240 I'm telling you the truth when they all think he's covering up for Epstein.
00:03:04.880 Who did that?
00:03:05.880 Pam Bondi did that.
00:03:07.260 And I don't know that she did it on purpose.
00:03:09.960 I'm assuming not.
00:03:10.820 I don't think she's a mean person.
00:03:12.020 I've never gotten that sense.
00:03:13.120 But for whatever reason, she went out there and said things that were not true that she
00:03:18.260 could not back up.
00:03:19.460 And then they issued this memo thinking that it would clear everything up.
00:03:22.900 That was embarrassing.
00:03:23.860 And I guess they're just so dumb.
00:03:26.120 They didn't realize that if you tell everybody you have the tapes of these crimes and then
00:03:32.100 you issue a memo saying you're not going to prosecute anybody for the crimes.
00:03:35.300 What are you saying?
00:03:35.920 I'm covering up for the person.
00:03:37.540 Adam, that's the most basic question everybody is upset about.
00:03:43.780 That's the most basic thing everybody is upset about.
00:03:46.500 That Pam announced something and then retracted her statement?
00:03:48.920 That somebody on Trump's team made an announcement that they're going to do that and then they're
00:03:54.000 changing the time.
00:03:54.760 You look like you want to say something.
00:03:55.580 Yeah, well, Pam didn't make an announcement.
00:03:59.240 Pam got busted.
00:04:00.840 Caught.
00:04:01.660 Possibly just here.
00:04:05.280 You know, I don't know Pam personally and I don't want to be harsh here, but is it possible
00:04:12.680 that she got caught in a restaurant and saying some things and says, I've told you a million
00:04:20.020 times, you know, just hyperbole.
00:04:21.920 And she got busted saying that it became a news item overnight and she walked not to
00:04:27.920 a podium, but to the White House lawn and doubled down on what she said.
00:04:34.360 Is it possible that she shouldn't have done it that way?
00:04:39.000 Is it possible that now that kind of put a stake in the ground and all of a sudden it's
00:04:44.860 like, okay, now we've got 10,000 videos.
00:04:49.000 Now what?
00:04:49.920 I really wonder if she was just talking over the top with somebody got busted because it
00:04:57.200 was overheard.
00:04:57.920 She's in a public restaurant.
00:04:59.560 Not so bad idea.
00:05:00.960 If it was hyperbole, bad idea to be talking to a restaurant.
00:05:04.340 And then you doubled down on the driveway on an impromptu media op at the White House.
00:05:09.920 And here we are.
00:05:11.700 I wonder.
00:05:12.440 Adam, say what you're going to say.
00:05:15.800 I just, there's, if we can go back to that list, and that's sort of the center of my entire
00:05:22.100 thesis here, is that I understand why people are frustrated by this.
00:05:27.060 I too have watched Game of Thrones.
00:05:29.120 I too watched Tiger King and wanted to know what was next.
00:05:32.900 But my major emphasis is, I don't know.
00:05:38.180 And either do you, homie.
00:05:40.060 And you can say what you think all you want.
00:05:43.220 And I respect the hell out of that.
00:05:45.100 But I mean this.
00:05:46.240 You don't know.
00:05:48.100 And that's okay to say.
00:05:49.660 The hardest thing to do as a podcaster is when Pat goes, all right, buddy, what's your opinion?
00:05:54.120 And I go, yeah, I don't know on this one.
00:05:56.160 I just don't know.
00:05:57.780 The humility it takes to say, yeah, I don't know what happened.
00:06:01.100 I don't know if he was CIA.
00:06:02.380 I don't know if he was Mossad.
00:06:04.160 Those are two different things.
00:06:05.300 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:06:06.240 Thank you.
00:06:07.180 Adam, I brought this up to give you an argument.
00:06:09.500 Thank you.
00:06:09.900 So I'm not, what I'm trying to say to you is there is, I don't know, none of us know.
00:06:15.820 Thank you for acknowledging that.
00:06:17.160 No, no, no.
00:06:17.720 But our friend Vinny here.
00:06:18.600 No, he doesn't.
00:06:19.160 Just said he did know.
00:06:20.360 No.
00:06:20.860 Is my point.
00:06:21.500 The point is, none of us know, but we all have an opinion.
00:06:25.120 If this podcast wasn't without you sharing your opinion, there is no podcast.
00:06:29.120 Correct.
00:06:29.640 People are simply watching this to say, Adam's full of shit.
00:06:33.340 I agree with Adam.
00:06:34.600 Vinny's angry.
00:06:35.440 I don't know.
00:06:35.840 Vinny's out of control.
00:06:37.020 You know what?
00:06:37.360 He's the only guy that's the truth.
00:06:38.580 You know what, Tom?
00:06:39.460 I like what Tom.
00:06:40.980 Pat, that's the, and they get to judge.
00:06:43.840 And they get to talk trash and say good things and say bad, and that's okay.
00:06:47.420 We're talking opinion.
00:06:48.280 Your opinion, which is a very valid opinion.
00:06:51.880 Your opinion is, he never ran on this.
00:06:54.140 He didn't run on this.
00:06:55.020 I know.
00:06:55.420 Thank you.
00:06:55.520 That's what I'm saying to you.
00:06:56.440 Yes.
00:06:56.720 You can give that opinion.
00:06:57.920 And that's all I'm trying to say.
00:06:59.220 That's it.
00:06:59.440 I'm with you.
00:06:59.900 And I'm just mirroring Trump here.
00:07:01.900 This wasn't on my top three.
00:07:03.640 Just like we've had conversations about auto pen.
00:07:06.780 You know, I, this was not in my top 10.
00:07:09.280 It's getting closer to my top three.
00:07:11.160 It ain't there yet.
00:07:11.940 And I acknowledge, you know what?
00:07:13.440 I sort of downplayed the auto pen thing.
00:07:15.900 Cause there's a lot of sort of domino effects of, yeah, I don't know what happened here.
00:07:20.340 It's still not in my top three.
00:07:21.880 But what's my point?
00:07:23.540 Trump never ran on Epstein.
00:07:25.380 He never acknowledged this as like, this is what I'm going to get out there and do.
00:07:28.460 But you and people like you, rightfully so, have said, this is my top three and he campaigned on this.
00:07:35.100 And this is number one.
00:07:36.120 And you made that up in your head.
00:07:37.940 Cause I'm going down this list and I'm also like sarcastically waiting for Epstein to be in the top 20.
00:07:44.500 It ain't even in his top 20 list.
00:07:47.180 Can we acknowledge that?
00:07:48.860 Can you acknowledge that?
00:07:49.860 Yeah, I could acknowledge it.
00:07:50.760 Okay, perfect.
00:07:51.500 So we're good.
00:07:52.320 Here's my thing to do.
00:07:53.180 But just say this.
00:07:54.360 It's in your top three.
00:07:55.940 But it's not in Trump's top 20.
00:07:57.520 You know what made it go in the top three?
00:07:59.200 The freaking lying.
00:08:01.140 The sitting and looking in a camera and bullshitting us, thinking that we're those losers and those idiots that you're talking about.
00:08:08.220 Adam, we're not stupid and we're not fucking losers, okay?
00:08:11.800 When a promise comes out of your mouth, I learned this big time with him.
00:08:15.920 You know why?
00:08:16.680 I would say something to one of his kids, Tico, just in a small little passing.
00:08:22.420 Uncle Vinny, can we watch a movie?
00:08:23.540 I'd say, yeah, Sunday.
00:08:24.540 He would hit me up and be like, Tico's going crazy asking me where you are because you said X, Y, and Z.
00:08:31.060 When you make a promise, even to a little kid, they want the fucking promise.
00:08:35.180 Sorry for my cussing back.
00:08:36.580 Let me finish.
00:08:37.300 I get it.
00:08:37.780 Who made the promise, though?
00:08:39.340 Donald Trump.
00:08:39.860 Who made the promise?
00:08:41.620 It wasn't on his campaign promises to the American people list.
00:08:45.400 But Adam, he's on multiple.
00:08:46.720 The thing that he ran on.
00:08:47.680 He's on camera multiple times.
00:08:49.120 Sort of important.
00:08:49.680 Hold on.
00:08:50.440 He's not only on camera multiple times.
00:08:52.860 Adam, the Cash Patel.
00:08:54.800 Show me.
00:08:55.140 Show me.
00:08:56.040 Show me Trump on camera.
00:08:56.920 Look, Trump saying Epstein list.
00:08:57.800 I'm going to get to the bottom of Epstein.
00:08:58.940 I'm going to get to Epstein list.
00:08:59.980 Show me that.
00:09:00.640 All right.
00:09:01.060 Let me finish.
00:09:02.000 Let him, while he's looking that up, not only the president, his son.
00:09:07.280 You can find that video.
00:09:08.660 Find the son of the video of Don Jr.
00:09:10.900 And then Cash Patel.
00:09:12.260 How many on the couch podcasts?
00:09:14.900 Hold on.
00:09:15.520 Just show me Trump.
00:09:16.380 Adam, I let you talk.
00:09:17.380 Let me finish.
00:09:18.320 He's going to show you the Trump.
00:09:19.500 And it's multiple here and on podcasts.
00:09:22.580 Which one's the other one?
00:09:23.520 And on CNN.
00:09:24.860 He did it on MSNBC.
00:09:26.720 How many times are you going to say it?
00:09:29.280 And then the team around you, the Cash Patels, the Dan Bonginos.
00:09:33.660 Dan Bonginos entire thing.
00:09:35.980 Who do you think knows more on this?
00:09:37.520 You or Cash Patel?
00:09:38.920 What do you mean knows more about this?
00:09:40.200 Who do you think knows more about this situation?
00:09:42.040 That now knows exactly what happened and it's covering it up?
00:09:45.500 You or Cash Patel.
00:09:45.860 Cash Patel, for sure.
00:09:47.680 Okay.
00:09:47.980 Who knows more?
00:09:48.840 You or Pam Bondi?
00:09:49.980 Pam Bondi has more.
00:09:50.920 Who knows more?
00:09:51.620 You or Dan Bongino.
00:09:53.220 Can you pull up Cash's tweet?
00:09:54.120 So I'm going to listen to them, not you.
00:09:55.940 Adam, well, hold on.
00:09:57.000 You know why that's a dumbass argument?
00:09:59.020 What do they know more?
00:09:59.920 Meaning they saw the dirt, Adam, and now they're being quiet?
00:10:04.420 I'm not stupid.
00:10:06.060 Nobody in here is stupid.
00:10:06.960 Here we go.
00:10:07.480 You know.
00:10:08.280 The conspiracy theories just aren't true.
00:10:10.200 We never have been.
00:10:10.860 It's an honor to serve the President Trump, Donald Trump, and I'll continue to do so for
00:10:14.720 as long as he calls on me.
00:10:15.200 And who tweeted this?
00:10:16.240 No, but wait a minute.
00:10:17.480 Was his Cash Patel?
00:10:17.900 I'm going to move on.
00:10:18.680 I'm going to move on with this and I'm going to just finish up with this.
00:10:21.100 But Vinny disagrees, so he must be wrong.
00:10:22.800 Because both of you have an argument and what's weird is both of you are right.
00:10:30.120 Two people can be right on the same argument.
00:10:32.680 You're right that he never ran on this and you voted for him.
00:10:36.400 As a guy that's never voted for a Democratic Republican president ever in your life, this
00:10:41.840 is the first time you ever voted on it, but you never voted on this.
00:10:44.960 So you're being up front with the audience.
00:10:48.300 Vinny's also right because what Vinny's trying to say is, why are you thinking I'm dumb?
00:10:53.240 There's hundreds of clips of, many clips of Cash Patel giving a complete opposite argument
00:10:57.800 of that we're not going to play it right now.
00:10:58.980 We've got a lot of other issues to get into.
00:11:00.200 This was a fumble and Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly, I watch this one as well where he's
00:11:06.920 like, well, what's the big deal?
00:11:07.880 You know who my resources are?
00:11:09.200 Here's my sources saying the fact that nothing happened.
00:11:12.380 President Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, and then Megyn Kelly
00:11:18.100 is like, but you can't say that because we can question that.
00:11:21.320 Both are right.
00:11:22.700 Massive fumble.
00:11:23.920 All I'm watching right now is to see how the hell they're going to recover from this
00:11:28.560 coming in.
00:11:29.240 That's all I'm watching.
00:11:30.600 What different methods are they going to come through this part?
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00:12:29.700 Give me the gray.
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00:12:31.080 Vinny, we call this the Chicago special.
00:12:33.420 No, Vinny, give me the gray one.
00:12:34.720 Yeah, the black on black on black.
00:12:35.960 All right, thanks.
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00:12:37.440 Yeah.
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