Valuetainment - June 19, 2025


“Jordan DIDN’T Have a 48-Inch Vertical” - Dwight Howard QUESTIONS MJ’s Vertical Leap


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

189.69023

Word Count

2,674

Sentence Count

337

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode, we talk about Michael Jordan's record setting vertical leap and how it compares to Kobe Bryant's and Bo Jackson's records. We also talk about who would win in a dunk contest between MJ and Scottie Pippen.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 And then what was your vertical leap?
00:00:01.440 My vertical leap was 39.
00:00:04.200 39.
00:00:04.980 Okay, Kobe's was 38.
00:00:07.480 When?
00:00:08.760 You hear that his vertical leap was 38.
00:00:11.420 That's tough.
00:00:12.800 You think he wasn't 38?
00:00:14.740 No, I'm just saying anything in the high 30s to 40s is really, really good.
00:00:21.920 No matter how tall.
00:00:25.800 Jordan had a 48.
00:00:27.220 I want to see this.
00:00:28.340 If Jordan really had a 48, that means he's touching the top of the backboard.
00:00:32.300 I've touched the top of the backboard, and I've touched higher.
00:00:34.900 I'm dunking on a 12-foot, 7-foot goal.
00:00:38.620 If Jordan had a 48-inch vert, he should be sitting on the rim.
00:00:45.480 He should be able to turn around and sit on the rim.
00:00:47.740 That's what they call him, Eric Jordan.
00:00:49.100 But I'm saying there's no way he had a buff.
00:00:51.880 10 feet would be 120 feet.
00:00:53.480 So even if you're up 48, if we do the math, he's 6'6".
00:00:58.240 So if he's 6'6", let's just say 48, you've got 120, he can be, you know.
00:01:07.660 He's got to be touching the top of the backboard.
00:01:10.380 So you're saying you don't think Mike had a 48?
00:01:12.600 There's no way he had a 48.
00:01:14.240 Are you serious?
00:01:14.340 Do you think Spud Webb had a 48, 47?
00:01:17.760 Spud Webb.
00:01:18.940 You remember Spud Webb from the Atlanta Hawks?
00:01:21.700 I do remember Spud Webb, but they're saying Michael Jordan has the highest vert ever.
00:01:26.420 This got to be some Gatorade, like Nike type.
00:01:29.980 We're going to pay to make this seem this way.
00:01:32.820 Have you seen the people who jump in this league?
00:01:35.700 Can you type in what was Spud Webb's vertical leap?
00:01:38.560 Spud Webb's vertical leap.
00:01:40.180 He was 46 to 46.
00:01:42.940 Yeah, there's Spud Webb.
00:01:43.600 And Michael Jordan had a 48-inch vert.
00:01:47.180 I feel like those are wilt lies.
00:01:50.020 That's a wilt lie.
00:01:52.500 That's a wilt lie.
00:01:54.300 But stay on this.
00:01:55.300 So if we're going to go and say wilt lies, what's more likely?
00:01:58.620 What's more likely?
00:01:59.840 The fact that Mike had a 48-inch vertical leap or the fact that Bo Jackson ran a 419-40?
00:02:08.400 What's more likely a lie?
00:02:11.560 Oh, Bo knows football.
00:02:13.860 I'm going to go with Michael Jordan with the 48-inch.
00:02:16.140 So you said Mike's a lie.
00:02:17.560 Bo did it?
00:02:18.420 Yeah, Bo had that bald head, man.
00:02:20.300 He was fast.
00:02:21.280 What do you mean?
00:02:21.680 Oh, my God.
00:02:22.420 Two-score Bo.
00:02:23.200 This is crazy.
00:02:24.740 So what do you think was Michael's vertical leap?
00:02:27.440 If you're saying 48 is that impossible, what do you think it was?
00:02:30.180 He's just saying that's so crazy.
00:02:31.100 He's two inches off a 50-inch vert Michael Jordan.
00:02:34.340 That's so insane.
00:02:36.260 I know he did have some crazy dunks, but 48 inches means he's touching the top.
00:02:40.740 Okay, so now we're going to a different place.
00:02:43.080 Okay, so now let's talk different.
00:02:46.220 So let's say dunk contest.
00:02:47.860 Dunk contest.
00:02:48.580 You against Mike.
00:02:49.540 Who wins?
00:02:50.280 Me?
00:02:50.700 I got to go with myself.
00:02:51.440 Dwight, stop it.
00:02:52.520 What do you mean?
00:02:53.240 What did Michael Jordan?
00:02:54.300 Scottie Pippen did a better free throw line dunk than Michael Jordan.
00:02:56.880 Oh, my goodness.
00:02:58.260 Shots fired, though.
00:02:59.280 Look it up.
00:02:59.820 Look at Michael Jordan's.
00:03:02.760 Greatest poster of NBA of all time.
00:03:05.100 Yes, but why Scottie Pippen?
00:03:06.340 I bet he went further.
00:03:07.320 I've seen it.
00:03:07.900 Why Scottie Pippen?
00:03:09.140 I bet his jump is further back, and he's fully extended.
00:03:15.220 Well, Scottie's also got those minutes.
00:03:16.740 You know, a lot of times they talk about how big Jordan's hands are.
00:03:20.140 Scottie's hands.
00:03:21.120 Scottie don't win without – I mean, Michael don't win without Scottie.
00:03:25.520 Let's do it.
00:03:26.400 You don't think?
00:03:28.240 Did he win without him?
00:03:29.400 Well, did Scottie ever win without Michael?
00:03:32.380 But Michael was supposed to be the man.
00:03:34.980 This is the one you're talking about.
00:03:36.320 So let's see this.
00:03:37.600 Watch what he take off for.
00:03:38.500 This is in a dunk contest?
00:03:39.640 Yeah.
00:03:39.860 But Scottie never won a dunk contest.
00:03:41.520 Because he didn't have the whole Nike behind him.
00:03:43.700 He didn't have the showmanship.
00:03:45.120 You're going to say Nike.
00:03:45.700 No, he didn't have Nike behind him like Jordan did.
00:03:48.380 The crowd.
00:03:49.960 What was Scottie's shoe?
00:03:51.160 Was it Converse, or was he Adidas?
00:03:54.840 Watch how easy he did this.
00:03:56.220 From the free throw line.
00:03:58.200 Look how easy he did that.
00:03:59.560 But watch Jordan's dunk from the free throw line.
00:04:00.940 Only because Jordan has a bald head, and he has shorter shorts.
00:04:04.260 Dwight, how are you going to start hating on Michael Jordan on the podcast right now?
00:04:07.520 I'm not hating.
00:04:08.360 I love Michael Jordan.
00:04:09.040 Come on now, okay?
00:04:10.120 He got the short shorts.
00:04:11.920 He got the gum chewing.
00:04:13.320 He got the ears.
00:04:14.280 He just looked like he's about to go flying.
00:04:16.240 He got 50 on a drone.
00:04:17.720 Chris, he was fun to watch.
00:04:19.280 Blazers.
00:04:21.200 Let's see this.
00:04:21.900 Look at the walk.
00:04:22.780 The smooth.
00:04:24.160 Effortless.
00:04:24.780 Boom.
00:04:25.060 No, he pumped.
00:04:25.580 No, he brought it back.
00:04:27.500 Dwight.
00:04:28.000 Dwight.
00:04:28.380 But you have to give credit where credit's due.
00:04:30.220 Because you'll understand this better than maybe anybody.
00:04:33.380 Showmanship counts.
00:04:34.480 When did he do that with showmanship?
00:04:35.580 Showmanship counts.
00:04:36.200 He did the same dunk.
00:04:37.200 He brought it back.
00:04:38.240 He was just darker than Pippen.
00:04:40.180 Okay, so what do you think his vertical leap is?
00:04:41.680 What do you think his vertical leap is?
00:04:42.280 You put on a cape.
00:04:43.240 You know about showmanship.
00:04:44.740 Yes.
00:04:45.680 Okay, what was a show about that he did the exact same dunk that Scottie Pippen did?
00:04:50.460 Dude, there's no way.
00:04:52.000 Scottie basically acted like he was just walking through the park and jumped out.
00:04:55.440 And he did the same thing.
00:04:56.720 It's MJ.
00:04:57.460 And then they just got better pictures.
00:04:59.100 You know who else did that?
00:05:00.220 So did Brent Berry.
00:05:01.380 Do you remember when Brent Berry dunked from the...
00:05:03.280 Yeah, without his...
00:05:04.440 What's the difference between Brent Berry and Scottie Pippen?
00:05:06.520 He's a white guy.
00:05:07.500 I should tell you.
00:05:08.160 The colorings.
00:05:10.040 The colorings.
00:05:11.340 Jordan is so...
00:05:12.620 Brent Berry didn't even take off his sweats.
00:05:14.940 That's what I'm saying.
00:05:15.920 Nobody's expecting him to do this.
00:05:17.560 And this is cold.
00:05:18.160 Listen, expect the unexpected.
00:05:18.820 Can you fast forward a little bit?
00:05:20.300 I'm going...
00:05:20.700 All right, so you just said you would beat Michael.
00:05:23.960 Yes.
00:05:24.820 You would...
00:05:25.260 My prime dunks, I had more dunks than Michael in for the dunk contest.
00:05:29.280 Go ahead.
00:05:29.560 Let's see this here.
00:05:30.560 He got the windmill from out the paint.
00:05:32.640 He doesn't even dribble, though.
00:05:34.460 No, there's no way.
00:05:35.380 This is not even...
00:05:36.180 It's not in the same with David Bromerson.
00:05:38.080 It was in the wrong city.
00:05:39.220 What was that at?
00:05:39.800 San Antonio?
00:05:40.900 You know Charles Barkley loves San Antonio.
00:05:42.480 I know.
00:05:42.740 Going back to you with...
00:05:45.500 Alonzo Mourning right here.
00:05:46.820 Going back to you with...
00:05:48.040 So you think you beat Michael in a dunk contest?
00:05:50.480 Okay.
00:05:51.100 What did Michael do in a dunk contest?
00:05:52.660 He did the free throw line dunk and the windmill from...
00:05:56.200 Sick.
00:05:56.900 From outside the pit.
00:05:57.860 Right.
00:05:58.540 That's easy.
00:05:59.380 He beat Dominique Wilkins.
00:06:01.620 Which he wasn't supposed to.
00:06:03.300 Dominique won those, but they gave it to Mike.
00:06:06.320 Oh, you're saying it's a conspiracy?
00:06:07.380 You're going to say because of Nike.
00:06:08.740 Yes.
00:06:10.100 Nike cannot see somebody else...
00:06:12.320 Like, they cannot see somebody else outside of Nike winning.
00:06:15.560 They have to have a...
00:06:16.260 So who was Dominique Wilkins' shoe contract in that dunk contest?
00:06:21.380 And who was Scotty's shoe contract?
00:06:23.720 Let's see this here.
00:06:24.440 It wasn't Nike.
00:06:25.160 So he was Reebok.
00:06:26.900 And then who was...
00:06:27.800 I chose wisely.
00:06:29.000 Who was Scotty Pippen's shoe contract?
00:06:32.660 Who was it?
00:06:33.480 Early in his year was Deal with Avia.
00:06:35.600 I don't even know who that is.
00:06:36.580 Then it was with Nike.
00:06:37.260 Then he went to Nike.
00:06:37.900 So later on, he went with Nike, what he did.
00:06:40.720 So what do you think Mike's vertical leap is?
00:06:43.200 It's not 48.
00:06:44.400 I mean, he probably got a good 42.
00:06:48.340 So he's got a 42.
00:06:49.560 Yeah, but you're saying a 48 is so high.
00:06:51.900 Who's the highest you ever saw?
00:06:53.140 You played with a lot of guys.
00:06:53.960 Did you ever see anybody?
00:06:55.020 Did you ever watch Shannon Brown?
00:06:56.540 Did you ever see some of these Vince Carter or Tracy McGrady?
00:06:59.020 Me and Vince did a dunk contest.
00:07:01.200 Privately?
00:07:01.740 Yes.
00:07:02.260 Who won?
00:07:03.440 He's not going to say it.
00:07:04.480 He's not going to say it.
00:07:06.260 But we both did this crazy dunk.
00:07:08.640 One dribble from half court, two steps.
00:07:12.060 How much of a running start do you have?
00:07:13.740 No running start.
00:07:14.620 You start at half court.
00:07:15.780 You take one dribble, two steps.
00:07:17.400 I was doing one dribble, two steps between the legs.
00:07:19.980 One dribble, two steps, windmill.
00:07:21.840 From half court?
00:07:22.720 From half court.
00:07:24.140 I mean, I've seen Giannis run up with two dribbles and he dunks, but he's got a running start.
00:07:27.940 No, we start at half court.
00:07:29.780 Boom.
00:07:30.480 Once I was doing it in high school.
00:07:32.460 Damn.
00:07:32.960 Dwight, you won how many NBA dunk contests?
00:07:34.820 Two?
00:07:35.200 One.
00:07:35.480 Just one.
00:07:36.480 So if you could put in order your top three, top five best NBA dunkers of all time, where
00:07:42.740 do you rank on that list and who's your top five, top ten?
00:07:45.540 Okay, I put myself three.
00:07:49.640 Before, at number one is Vince Carter.
00:07:53.400 Ahead of Mike.
00:07:54.420 Ahead of Mike, yes.
00:07:56.240 Have you seen Vince Carter?
00:07:57.460 I have.
00:07:58.340 Olympics.
00:07:59.060 Oh my God.
00:08:00.340 He got to be number one.
00:08:01.320 Now, then you got two.
00:08:04.220 You got to go with Mike.
00:08:05.980 Then you got Dominique Wilkins.
00:08:09.500 Four?
00:08:10.920 And nobody's putting him in here, but I got to put him in here.
00:08:13.880 Who's five?
00:08:14.760 Darryl Dawkins.
00:08:15.900 Oh, you're going to old school.
00:08:16.560 Darryl Dawkins.
00:08:17.320 Okay.
00:08:17.840 What was his nickname?
00:08:19.020 Sexual Chocolate or something like that?
00:08:20.320 No, that was mine.
00:08:22.320 Oh, God.
00:08:23.220 That's Rick James.
00:08:24.980 No, Darryl Dawkins.
00:08:25.780 What was his nickname?
00:08:26.400 Chocolate Thunder.
00:08:26.980 Chocolate Thunder.
00:08:27.840 My bad.
00:08:28.460 Come on.
00:08:29.000 I get my chocolate.
00:08:30.260 That's what's coming to America.
00:08:31.580 Of course.
00:08:32.200 I know.
00:08:33.040 Darryl Dawkins.
00:08:34.380 Yes, Dr. Duncan Stein.
00:08:36.080 Randy Watson.
00:08:37.080 Got to get him.
00:08:37.380 Randy Watson.
00:08:38.920 Where does LeBron rank on this list?
00:08:41.280 He never won an NBA dunk contest.
00:08:43.320 He didn't do one.
00:08:44.440 Why didn't he do one?
00:08:45.220 Why didn't he do one?
00:08:45.840 It's actually a very good question.
00:08:46.700 Why didn't he do it?
00:08:47.300 I think LeBron is a dunk contest.
00:08:49.140 No, he's an in-game dunker.
00:08:50.780 I don't think he's a dunk contest dunker.
00:08:52.400 I think it's two different things.
00:08:53.700 In-game dunker, you have the crowd.
00:08:55.780 You have the whole game going on, so you have the atmosphere and everything to lift you up.
00:09:01.440 And a dunk contest is just you.
00:09:03.600 You got to find a way to entertain the crowd.
00:09:05.600 You got to find a way to muster up enough energy to get up and do crazy dunks.
00:09:09.520 So I think that LeBron is an in-game dunker.
00:09:13.400 He did do a dunk contest in high school for the McDonald's game.
00:09:18.180 I remember that.
00:09:18.760 But I don't think it was exciting because he did basically the same dunk that he does now.
00:09:24.880 The one hand like this, the reverse dunk like this.
00:09:29.080 Those are his special dunks, you know.
00:09:31.480 TBD.
00:09:31.860 So can I get my all-time top five?
00:09:36.000 Number one, Mack McClellan.
00:09:38.100 Okay.
00:09:38.480 Number two, Brent Berry.
00:09:40.840 Okay.
00:09:41.060 Number three.
00:09:41.780 I'm just naming white guys here.
00:09:43.360 No, I'm just kidding.
00:09:44.580 But where would you rank Blake Griffin on this list?
00:09:49.100 Because a lot of people think that he's on top of everybody.
00:09:51.820 Maybe with the exception of Vince Carter.
00:09:54.460 Blake.
00:09:55.200 Blake top tier all the time.
00:09:56.900 He's top ten.
00:10:00.600 Like the Kendrick Perkins, what's the one over in New York?
00:10:05.120 Timothy Mozgov.
00:10:06.720 Oh, yeah.
00:10:07.300 Dunked over a seven-footer, right?
00:10:08.820 This one.
00:10:09.940 He's probably got the most like crazy facials because.
00:10:13.920 You know what you just reminded me of while you guys are talking about this?
00:10:16.540 I actually want to know what you're going to say about this is, you know, the Kobe dunk on you.
00:10:21.640 Like, do you know which one I'm talking about?
00:10:23.200 Yeah.
00:10:23.520 Have you seen this one?
00:10:27.200 You even talk about it, right?
00:10:29.180 Can you?
00:10:30.260 Yeah.
00:10:31.020 Rob, this is like out of control, doesn't make any sense.
00:10:35.280 I was a rookie.
00:10:36.420 Was it your rookie year?
00:10:37.940 Because most people don't talk about this dunk.
00:10:40.620 Because it was so long ago.
00:10:43.060 Watch this.
00:10:43.660 Watch this.
00:10:45.020 Oh.
00:10:47.080 That's your rookie year.
00:10:48.320 Yeah.
00:10:49.060 Oh, four.
00:10:50.160 See, I thought he was going to come over.
00:10:53.240 You could have met him up there.
00:10:53.980 You got you, Dwight.
00:10:54.920 Yeah.
00:10:55.160 You wanted the charge?
00:10:56.300 I don't know what I was doing because, you know what?
00:11:01.480 I don't know what I was doing.
00:11:03.100 I remember Brian Grant said, welcome to the league, young fella.
00:11:06.500 And I remember my homeboy.
00:11:07.980 It was my birthday right after that.
00:11:09.500 Is that who I think who pushed him?
00:11:12.400 No, that's not Ray for Alston.
00:11:13.580 That's Steve Francis.
00:11:14.600 Oh, that was Steve Francis.
00:11:15.620 Good for Francis while he was like that.
00:11:20.440 Yeah.
00:11:21.020 So Francis was a tough teammate pushing.
00:11:23.100 Yeah, he didn't like that.
00:11:24.040 He didn't like nobody dunking and messing with DJ.
00:11:27.920 Wow.
00:11:28.240 But you know what that did?
00:11:29.620 It woke me up.
00:11:30.840 Because before that, I couldn't hear real good.
00:11:33.160 And after that, I heard everything.
00:11:35.060 And I was like, you know what?
00:11:36.360 Never let nobody do this to me again.
00:11:38.040 I got three defensive player of the year awards after that.
00:11:42.040 And I got in the weight room.
00:11:43.100 How many games after your rookie, like game one, what game is that when that happened?
00:11:47.520 That was a while into the season.
00:11:49.100 That was deep into the season.
00:11:50.660 No, actually, it had to be early into the season, before December.
00:11:55.000 So that was early into the season.
00:11:57.680 And who's Kobe?
00:11:59.000 Like, have you faced him yet?
00:12:00.340 Like, was this the first time when this happens where it's kind of like, holy shit?
00:12:03.840 I think it was, because he said, our coach said, don't let Kobe split the pick and roll.
00:12:11.840 And so he split the pick and roll.
00:12:14.140 And he said, Dwight, if he does, just come over high hands.
00:12:18.940 Come over high hands.
00:12:21.400 They say, you know, boom, oh.
00:12:25.480 That's all I heard was boom.
00:12:27.600 It was the ball going through the rim.
00:12:29.140 Boom.
00:12:29.500 And the whole crowd said, oh.
00:12:32.840 I'm like, he got me good.
00:12:35.120 Does it make sense, like, when you see that up close and personal, does it make sense he's a 38-inch vertical?
00:12:40.620 Is that about right?
00:12:42.740 See, it's all about angles and timing.
00:12:45.860 And his angle was so fast to the basket and deliberate that my force wasn't enough to stop his force.
00:12:55.080 If I would have came with the exact or even more force, we would have met, and it probably would have never happened.
00:13:01.060 But you saw I came over there like, la, la, la, la, la, you know?
00:13:04.500 Yeah.
00:13:05.040 So.
00:13:05.580 But that would never happen to you once you went into your defensive player tomorrow.
00:13:08.400 No, I would have ran, I would have jumped to meet him early, either to put him on the ground and say, hey, you're not doing this.
00:13:16.460 This is the only time you're going to get.
00:13:18.580 Or I'm going to go up and I'm going to grab the ball and block it.
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