＂Kimmel Believes What He Believes＂ - Adam Carolla's INSIDE LOOK At Kimmel's Charlie Kirk CONTROVERSY
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Summary
Jimmy Kimmel has been fired from Jimmy Kimmel Live, and some are speculating that it may have been because he was part of the MAGA gang. Comedian Adam McKay joins Jemele to talk about what happened, why he thinks Jimmy should have been fired, and why he stayed on the show.
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Jimmy Kimmel didn't see a problem, okay, with his lie that Charlie Kirk's killer was part of the MAGA gang.
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Rob, if you can play this clip here, I'm curious to know what Adam has to say about this. Go ahead, Rob.
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I didn't think there was a big problem. I, you know, I just saw it as distortion on the part of some of the right-wing media networks,
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I have problems, like, all the time, and it's kind of funny because sometimes you think,
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oh, this is not a problem, and then it turns into a big problem, and then sometimes it goes the other way,
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where you think, like, oh, oh, this is going to be a problem, and nobody really notices.
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And so at what point did you realize this was a problem?
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I think when, um, when they pulled the show off the air.
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And what were the conversations with Dana and Bob that led to that?
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Um, I hate to disappoint you, but they were really good conversations.
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They are, I mean, these are people that I, I've known for a long time and who I like very much
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and who were, you know, who wanted, we all wanted this to work out best.
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And I will tell you, like, I mean, first of all, I ruined Dana's weekend.
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But I don't think what, I don't think the result, which I think turned out to be very positive,
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um, would have been as positive if I hadn't talked to Dana as much as I did.
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Because it helped me think everything through, and it helped me just kind of understand where everyone was.
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So what do you, what do you think about the whole thing?
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He came back, you know, record-breaking, most viewership ever, 6.3 million.
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And then some data has shown the fact that the viewership has dropped even lower to previous to getting fired.
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What do you think about what happened with Jimmy here and him getting fired and then coming back?
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And, you know, his, his explanation was, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's interesting places to tread for me.
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I was working as a boxing coach when I met him.
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And he pulled me out of that and got me into radio and pretty much made my career.
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Um, his explanation to me about what he meant was plausible.
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Like, I know it sounds like he was saying these guys are, you know, what he said about Charlie Kirk, uh, killer.
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But it's a plausible deniability kind of thing.
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I, I don't want to get in all the machinations of it.
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Now, the motor goes in directions that we disagree with.
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What are some things that may be conservatives who don't know him, who, you know, will easily go after him.
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What are some things you would say about him that, uh, you know, for, for conservatives to hear?
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He's, he's, he's incredibly thoughtful, which I'm not.
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He's, he's, he's super, you know, your kid's birthday.
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It's always something, you know, it's always a present showing up for your kids.
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Very generous, uh, very thoughtful, provides basically work, like employees, half his family.
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My daughter worked for, uh, his production, you know, work for Jimmy Kimmel Live for her summer job.
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Like, very generous, thoughtful, and, and a good citizen.
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Like, regardless, I think, I mean, I sort of explained this at the time on my show, which is, it's easy to disagree with people.
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I don't like their, but they're dopes or the whatever.
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Um, but he is a genuinely good, thoughtful, and generous person who you disagree with on many subjects.
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Have you, have you ever asked him, like, one of the things I tweeted at him one time, and, and, and I tagged him, and Bob Ike or Rob, I don't know if you remember that or not.
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And, and I said, you know, after he got fired, why, why don't you, because the ratios of the people that he had, it's pretty much all on the left.
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I think the most, last one he's invited that was from the right, which actually ended up being a very good interview, was with, uh, pillow, uh, uh, what is it called?
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And I, and I said, Rob, I just send it to you, Rob, if you want to pull it up.
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I said, hey, Jimmy, I watched your show late night, uh, last night, and appreciate you addressing the audience.
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Why, why does he not at least invite some people from the opposing side and, and giving them a chance on what they have to say?
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No, because it's, it's like you want to ruin the Thanksgiving by getting into it with your, you know, daughter's friend or something at Thanksgiving.
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It's like, it was never part of our relationship, um, politics.
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You know, it was comedy and it was friendship and that's what it is now.
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And we, it wasn't something that we stopped talking about cause we never started talking about it.
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And, you know, I think things change in his job and my job and, and there is more political talk, but I think we're making a mistake when we go, we're going to sit down and have dinner and we have to talk about this stuff.
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I'm saying when this is done and the cameras shut down and the lights get turned off and now we're going out for a beer.
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I don't see why you have to keep getting into this stuff.
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I actually have massive respect for you because you guys have gone completely opposite ways, ideologically, politically, yet you're still respectful and you're still his friend.
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And I have a lot of friends that are super liberal, even super conservative.
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And those are my friends and I'm pretty loyal dude and I'm sticking with them.
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Can't you say, listen, bro, you're just not funny anymore.
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The misdirection, you know, everyone knows where the joke is going.
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His first monthly ratings win in the entire series history, meaning it hasn't been funny or first place ever, but it dropped right now because Charlie Kirk and he came back on the air.
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So at any point, do you say, listen, bro, as a comedian, maybe you kind of bring it back towards the middle.
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The thing about comedians is they have what they want to say.
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I don't get into the game where if I disagree with someone, I go, they're not funny.
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There's such a thing as agreeing like, you know, Bill Maher's a skilled guy and he is funny.
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And I do disagree with a lot of the stuff he says, but I don't go, he's not funny.
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It's the same thing I don't like when people go, that guy's dumb, man.
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It's like, he's a lawyer and he's a physician and you disagree with the guy, but he's not.
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But isn't it a challenge to live in an echo chamber?
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Like Vinny and I might disagree, but how much time do we consult with you?
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We don't agree on everything, but we constructively consult with each other to bring the best out
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I actually don't want to push on this topic anymore because I think he gave his position
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To me, the honor goes to Adam here, Carolla, because he's saying he brought me out.
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I used to be a boxing coach and he brought me out and I got my fame there.
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And then later on, I took it and did it myself.
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Whether you like him or I don't even know what the comment section is saying.
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You have to freaking like the guy that's giving credit to the person that kickstarted
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him at a point that maybe things won't go in the way he was going.
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I don't know how many years ago that was, but I was on your show and we talked about
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I think you said in your third or fourth, I don't know what it was when you said, I really
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We were in your studio and we were talking about that.
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I actually appreciate what you're saying and you give him credit.
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And I 100% Adam, I'd be in the same position as, was it cool Adam?
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And Adam, you made a point where the numbers went up for that one episode, but then it dropped
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But, but just in general, it's just, I'm, I'm always curious.
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Like, do you really have these point of views or is it because the network's having you do
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Because just recently, Rob, can you just do this?
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Like you would think after the Charlie Kirk thing.
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And by the way, he said, and I quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend is when Charlie
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was killed with the MAGA gang, desperately trying to characterize the kid who murdered
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Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, which you cannot, like that is basically
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trying to say without knowing any facts that we, somebody on the MAGA side murdered Charlie,
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And then by the way, saying that free speech, nobody said free speech.
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The numbers prove of what, what's happening with, with the actual program, but then you
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This is him saying basically Antifa doesn't exist.
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And then I'll show a clip of how all the networks are saying it.
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This is no different than if they announced they rounded up a dozen Decepticons.
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And then it was Trump's turn to ratchet up the rhetoric with fiery images conjured from
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If you even went on ABC's search engine on their website, put Antifa.
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You'd think that you'd learn a lesson, but no, you double down.
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And then Rob, can you just show the talking point?
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This is, mind you now, they're not, they haven't burned down the city during BLM and
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They weren't punching people in the face, burning down cities.
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You know, the email went out cause this is every network parroting exactly what he said.
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It's not even like far right groups, like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
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Compared to right-wing extremists, Antifa linked violence is rare and limited.
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It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers.
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You know, they're defined terrorist organizations with leadership that led, that, you know, leads
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It's an, it's, it's, it's not a unified group like the Proud Boys are.
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Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.
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It's all in this guise of going after Antifa, which is nothing.
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So that's, that's my point is like, what you're going to go up there and say something that
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You know, you know, the Charlie Kirk thing was a lie.
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So I just don't understand why, why take that position and why go there?
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That's, that's, that's one of the reasons I'm just so confused.
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But then you go back to the numbers and Tom, what does that say?
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Words talk, numbers are screaming louder and louder every day as the numbers drop.
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Well, can we just say one thing more than anything?
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So at the very least, he allowed us to have open debate and conversation.
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And I think tomorrow is going to be a very, very big day in his honor.
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I don't, you know, as far as like Antifa and talking points and what they believe and what
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they don't believe, you can see the same people five years ago going, this thing was not a
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I do know this because I don't think you know it or you don't know it.
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It's not, I mean, this is noble, but what I'm saying is, is they'll get onto something
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and then they just parrot it and then they just echo it and that's what it is.
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Do you think they believe that or is that just something that?
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It's a weird thing where you kind of go, do they believe?
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I believe Jimmy believes whatever Jimmy says he, he, and this thing of like, we'll say
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I think there's a lot of people have said to me in the other direction, they've said to
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me, you know, well, you know, does Tucker Carlson or does Dennis Prager or does anybody
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who I, Ben Shapiro, they don't really believe, I go, they absolutely believe it.
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Now you can disagree with them or you can believe it too, or you can know something else, but
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I, I, I don't, I don't question everyone's sincerity that much.
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John Stewart, you ever done anything with John Stewart?
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John is, um, reclusive, kind of, he's a nice guy, you know, he, he and I get along, you
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It's, it's, it's interesting because I think when you disagree with someone as much as you
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might disagree with John Stewart or Jimmy Kimmel, it's an easy trap to just go bad guy
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because that makes you then de facto a good guy for believing what you believe.
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Um, I think what we need to get in our head is people can have thoughts that you vehemently
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disagree with and they can still be good people.
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I, and I wish the other side would do that because then you wouldn't be Hitler.
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I think, uh, you might be wrong on some issues, but super talented.
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The reason I bring that up is he has a, a, a, a roster on his show, um, a handful of people.
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They have one guy's a young, talented black guy, super, uh, funny, super hilarious guy,
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but he did a whole episode on how Antifa just doesn't exist.
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And he just went down this whole list and then basically tried to like pull the rug out
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And the reason I bring that up is forget about what they're saying.
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The entire audience is just buying everything they're selling.
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You talked about whether the Hillary Clinton's lying, whoever it is, but then you have the 19
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year old vaping in the basement that believes everything they say.
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These people have a responsibility to tell the truth.
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Jerry Nadler started the whole Antifa is just an idea thing.
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He said, I don't know if you guys remember that.
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Well, that was during the election when people, when there was George Floyd on one side and
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He got stopped walking in front of the Capitol or whatever.
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What country do you disavow the violence from Antifa?
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That's a myth that's being spread only in Washington, D.C.
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They're throwing fireworks at federal officers.
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What's your outcome of saying Antifa doesn't exist?
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Who are you trying to take credibility away from?
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I think it's because Trump has designated them a terror organization.
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If you say they don't exist, then you could still, whoever's funding them, keep paying
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Whoever these NGOs, and I don't want to say any names, the higher upside, that means, no, they
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You keep funding them because that's the opposition.
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That's what the left does when they can't argue.
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They just, they send out the freaking text and the email.
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They say, hey, put your stupid mask on and get your ass out there, Todd.
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You can find the clip of Gavin Newsom up on stage going, border?
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That's just, that doesn't, that never, we don't have any border problems.
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Yeah, because they said there was nothing wrong with it.
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Well, there's, there's a, yeah, I think there's a clip of him sort of saying that it's a, you
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Like, but they, they bring it up in a way like you're the crazy one for thinking something
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I mean, look, the, the, the, the question, the question is, does that work?
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Because I'll go ahead and play this clip and then we'll get into it.
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Prepared to call this what this is, which is a theater of the absurd.
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California is prepared to continue to remind the American people.
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This is a manufactured crisis, border crossings, uh, up to 2017, we're at the lowest level
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Uh, the reality is at ports of entry, most of these drugs are seized, seized, and California
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is prepared to work with the administration, but it doesn't matter.
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We're back down here at the border, Tijuana, right behind me, San Diego sector.
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We're just down here with the national guard meeting with customs, uh, agents as well as
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border patrol talking about our partnerships, 390, uh, national guards, men and women that
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have been working particularly as it relates to fentanyl here in the state of California.
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At the end of the day, they need more resources.
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The Republican party has been consistently standing in the way of providing the resources.
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It's the support for the men and women working hard.
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So he sent you resources and then he's authoritarian for doing it.
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But, but, but where I was going with this is when, when you see these types of things,
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there's a reason why it's record number, lowest number of people trust in the mainstream media.
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They're going to, they're going to trust you less and less and less and less.
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It's not going to get any, any, any worse than what it is right now.
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No matter how much more they push these things, it makes their argument weaker.
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