Valuetainment - April 14, 2026


“Lebanon Was NEVER Part Of The Deal” - JD Vance CALLS OUT Iran’s Proxy Strategy


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The Strait of Hormuz has been a source of tension between Iran and the United States. Iran says it will keep obstructing passage through the Strait until it gets an acceptable offer from the U.S., according to statements carried by Tasnim and Fars news agencies affiliated with Iran's security services.

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00:00:00.000 Iran says it'll keep obstructing Hormuz until U.S. agrees to a deal.
00:00:05.740 Iran has found the leverage that they have, which is the Strait of Hormuz.
00:00:11.480 Here's what Iran said.
00:00:12.980 Iran will keep passage through Strait of Hormuz hampered until it gets an acceptable offer from the U.S.,
00:00:17.900 according to statements carried by Tanim and Fars news agencies affiliated with Iran's security services.
00:00:24.000 here's a quote, Iran is not in a hurry until the U.S. agrees to a reasonable deal. There will be
00:00:30.500 no change in the situation of the Strait of Hormuz, is what they said. And on top of that,
00:00:37.080 they threatened. Is this a video of the threats, Rob? Yes, sir. Go ahead and play this clip. Go
00:00:40.400 forward. In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful, the naval and aerospace forces
00:00:46.340 of the Revolutionary Guard since dawn today in the 99th wave of Operation True Promise 4 with
00:00:51.740 the Holy Code, Ya Fatima al-Zahra, peace be upon her, in response to the enemy's crimes.
00:00:56.860 Then attacking the country's infrastructure have targeted American bases and interests in the
00:01:01.780 region, as well as command centers and Zionist military gatherings in the occupied territories
00:01:06.900 with ballistic and cruise missiles and offensive drones. In the first phase of the attacks,
00:01:12.360 the largest petrochemical complex belonging to American companies, Sadara, ExxonMobil,
00:01:17.100 and Dow Chemical, located in the Al-Jubeil region of Saudi Arabia, and the large petrochemical
00:01:22.320 complex of the American company Chevron Phillips, based in Al-Juayma, Saudi Arabia, were effectively
00:01:27.680 targeted with medium-range missiles and offensive drones. Additionally, more than 30 locations in
00:01:33.600 Rishon-le-Zayon and Peta-Tikwa in the center, and Beersheba, Dimona, Arad, Kiryatgat, and Oman.
00:01:39.380 Iran threatens to attack U.S. Navy ships entering Strait of Hormuz. After first American vessels
00:01:44.180 moved through the channel, U.S. Navy destroyers began clearing a new passage through the Strait
00:01:48.980 of Hormuz Saturday, making the first time American ships crossed the channel since the
00:01:52.280 start of the war. The USS Frank E. Peterson and USS Michael Murphy set off on the mission to
00:01:57.860 establish an open route so that minesweepers could later clear sea mines laid by Iran's
00:02:03.340 Islamic Revolutionary Guard, Coa's Vice President Vance, and other delegates embarked on peace
00:02:07.100 talks. Today began a process. The two guided missile destroyers were only established on the
00:02:11.720 route for minesweepers and sending a message to Iran that U.S. will reopen a vital trade corridor 0.70
00:02:17.480 by any means. By the way, UK is apparently helping them out because they send a team that's experts
00:02:22.620 at knowing how to do the minesweep. And so, you know, no one really knows what's going on. At the
00:02:28.080 same time, while this is taking place, Israel says it struck over 200 Hezbollah targets just in the
00:02:33.340 last 24 hours. The Israel military said its air force hit over 200 targets linked to Iran-backed
00:02:39.340 militant group hezbollah in lebanon on saturday the announcement of the strikes comes as iran
00:02:45.320 demands a ceasefire on lebanon as part of the wider talks with the u.s in islamabad to end
00:02:50.800 the war in the middle east adam you're talking about lebanon right now yeah no i'm talking about
00:02:55.840 lebanon i'm talking about iran's threats iran controlling it all those three together well
00:03:00.420 if you listen to what trump said did you see the quote when he said listen we've already won
00:03:03.400 you see that quote can you pull that one up rob yes basically he says yeah i don't really care
00:03:08.940 what happens in these negotiations we've already won destroyed their military i think trump is
00:03:14.180 basically doing this it's a game of chicken about the strait of hormuz the strait of hormuz
00:03:19.820 what countries is that the most important to let's get real here before this war how many of us
00:03:26.880 talked about the strait of hormuz we talked about panama canal talked about the gulf of mexico we
00:03:31.280 talked about the monroe doctrine we talked about or the the trump doctrine uh downro doctrine
00:03:37.180 Strait of Hormuz doesn't really affect the United States, does it?
00:03:40.280 It affects certain other countries, Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Southeast Asia, India.
00:03:45.120 So I think it's using the Strait of Hormuz as a leverage point saying,
00:03:49.280 if we close this down, what's going to happen to the rest of the world?
00:03:52.260 Didn't we have a picture over the weekend of how much drilling is happening in the Gulf of America now?
00:03:57.320 How many ships and oil drill refineries are popping up and how many ships are coming through the Gulf?
00:04:03.240 Did we not discuss that?
00:04:04.640 the whole concept of drill baby drill
00:04:06.880 it's basically
00:04:08.720 the chickens are coming home to roost
00:04:10.760 now regarding Lebanon
00:04:12.320 you know how they say Israel controls
00:04:15.240 America, Bibi Nanyal 1.00
00:04:16.960 controls America, okay
00:04:18.520 well did you hear what Anthony Blinken
00:04:21.000 had to say, we can tee up that clip
00:04:22.840 but you know who controls Lebanon
00:04:24.960 it's not even a question, it's Iran
00:04:27.260 Lebanon 0.86
00:04:28.420 Hezbollah is Iran first 1.00
00:04:30.760 this whole conversation, why would
00:04:33.120 lebanon not part of iran be a part of these negotiations because that was the center point
00:04:38.700 that was the linchpin as to what jd did you see jd vance what he had to say and when he was
00:04:43.140 outside of um air force one he goes listen yeah we were trying to do the uh the uh the deal and
00:04:50.060 then all of a sudden israel lebanon are going at it well who started that who's doing that well
00:04:53.960 that's been ongoing but here's the point he goes i genuinely think iran thought that lebanon was
00:05:00.720 part of the deal and lebanon wasn't part of the deal lebanon's name didn't even come up so iran's
00:05:05.960 playing games they have their proxies out there whether it's the hezbollahs the houthis hamas
00:05:10.780 islamic jihad whatever they're doing they're funding them not funding their own people
00:05:14.960 lebanon has no part of this deal unless lebanon is controlled by iran that's true are we sure
00:05:21.740 about that like what's your proof that iran controls lebanon okay so no i'm at no i'm asking
00:05:27.800 No, I'm asking you.
00:05:29.020 What do you know about Hezbollah? 0.99
00:05:30.440 They're terrorists. 0.59
00:05:31.360 Okay, where are they based in? 0.99
00:05:32.420 They're all over the place.
00:05:33.500 No, they're not.
00:05:34.200 Yes, they are. 0.94
00:05:34.920 They're in Iran. 0.88
00:05:35.680 I'm sorry, they're in Lebanon. 1.00
00:05:36.380 They are.
00:05:36.980 They're in Iran as well.
00:05:37.960 Hezbollah is based in Lebanon.
00:05:40.260 Facts. 0.59
00:05:40.920 Just like Hamas is in Gaza, just like the Houthis are in Yemen. 0.82
00:05:44.980 Okay.
00:05:45.800 And how do they get their funding?
00:05:48.100 From Iran.
00:05:49.540 The Iranian terror proxy network. 0.91
00:05:52.040 Okay, that's who this Hezbollah is. 0.85
00:05:53.780 So rather than funding their own people, own economy, drinking water, everything, 0.99
00:05:57.440 they fund hezbollah this isn't even a controversial statement this is true so they're sending in 0.74
00:06:03.100 imagine you're in tel aviv imagine you're in miami imagine you're in new york you're sitting there
00:06:07.640 and missiles are flying in over your city i don't think people truly understand what's going on in
00:06:12.100 israel their entire country is living in bunkers at this point okay when when iraq and iran were
00:06:17.480 at war okay you're you're a proud iranian i assume at this time i i assume you were hearing missiles
00:06:24.920 over your head nonstop do you remember this yes do you still have like flashbacks about this
00:06:29.800 and i'm not saying this doesn't go on in other parts of the world the entire society in israel
00:06:35.220 right now is underground they get to pop up and live their lives all of a sudden missiles are
00:06:41.140 coming from iran they have 10 minutes to get underground missiles come in from hezbollah
00:06:45.440 they have three minutes to get underground missiles come in from what's ever left in gaza 0.88
00:06:49.500 They have one minute.
00:06:51.020 You have an entire Western democracy alley of the United States, 0.97
00:06:54.640 regardless how you feel about Bibi and Israel. 0.97
00:06:57.040 You have an entire society that is forced to live underground 0.74
00:07:00.280 because the IRGC and all their proxies are sending this.
00:07:04.400 What is this clip by Blinken?
00:07:05.860 Anthony Blinken, this is a separate conversation about.
00:07:08.640 What is this, Rob?
00:07:09.000 So this is basically saying, how did U.S. enter this war in Iran?
00:07:14.760 And this is Anthony Blinken, obviously former Secretary of State.
00:07:16.820 Go ahead, Rob, let's see it. 0.84
00:07:17.880 Basically saying, was it Bibi? Was it Trump? Whose decision was it?
00:07:20.840 This is Anthony Blinken. Go ahead.
00:07:22.320 Prime Minister Netanyahu at various points tried to convince the Obama administration, the Biden administration to do things like this.
00:07:29.100 To my knowledge, he's tried to convince virtually every administration since he's been in office to do what President Trump finally did.
00:07:36.400 He came to the Obama administration and tried this. He came to the Biden administration and tried this.
00:07:41.500 And he finally found a willing customer in President Trump.
00:07:44.700 But this was President Trump's decision. 0.51
00:07:46.000 This wasn't Bibi Netanyahu's decision.
00:07:47.380 It was President Trump's decision.
00:07:49.080 Look, it's not that previous administrations, whether it was President Bush.
00:07:53.280 You have to admit, Adam, it's 1,000% President Trump's decision.
00:07:57.180 But you cannot sit here and pretend that Bibi Netanyahu doesn't have major influence.
00:08:03.420 Jared Kushner has known him since he was a child.
00:08:08.060 His father in New Jersey, he used to go visit him, Bibi, in Jersey.
00:08:11.260 He's over there negotiating.
00:08:12.600 That's a conflict of interest, number one.
00:08:14.320 But number two, we can't pretend, Adam, everything was Iran, Iran, Iran, and then Israel went 0.54
00:08:19.540 on full-on seizing land and attacking in Lebanon, and mind you, Adam, in heavily populated civilian
00:08:27.760 and Christian parts of Lebanon, and they're literally seizing land. 0.63
00:08:32.680 And it's looking now, because Adam, who's to stop them from just going, well, there's
00:08:36.720 terrorists here, bomb them.
00:08:38.020 Who's checking to see how many civilians are dying in Lebanon? 0.98
00:08:40.740 where's the because if if you all you have to say is this there's terrorists there you could
00:08:46.120 literally keep bombing keep extending expanding until you've taken over as much land as you want 0.94
00:08:51.480 don't obviously I want Hezbollah taken out obviously I want Hamas done obviously I want 0.60
00:08:56.660 ISIS done which Trump basically did but if you've been seeing like I've been seeing literally in the 0.87
00:09:02.120 downtown area you want to talk about Miami I'm out in Miami a whole apartment complex with civilians
00:09:07.660 Coming all the way down
00:09:08.940 And they're bombing it
00:09:10.020 So that's what I'm saying
00:09:11.060 Is Adam
00:09:11.340 There's a huge
00:09:12.140 Huge Christian population there 1.00
00:09:14.020 Which I'm not comfortable 1.00
00:09:15.480 With them going on
00:09:16.580 Full offensive
00:09:17.200 When you're supposed to be
00:09:18.040 Focusing on Iran 1.00
00:09:19.360 I get it 1.00
00:09:19.940 They can chew
00:09:20.600 What's the saying
00:09:21.180 That you said before
00:09:22.160 Walk and chew gum
00:09:23.220 But it's like bro
00:09:24.240 What is this
00:09:24.680 What is this clip Rob
00:09:25.540 Yeah that's
00:09:26.060 This was the strikes
00:09:26.840 Last week in Lebanon
00:09:28.000 Yeah that's 1.00
00:09:29.020 Okay you want to kill 1.00
00:09:29.640 One terrorist 1.00
00:09:30.280 So you do that
00:09:31.020 Let's just say 1.00
00:09:31.840 There's one Hezbollah guy 1.00
00:09:32.860 In there
00:09:33.080 Why would you say
00:09:33.620 There's only one
00:09:34.080 I'm just saying
00:09:34.500 How many
00:09:34.880 How many
00:09:35.540 Why did they
00:09:35.880 Take out that building
00:09:36.640 Cause I don't
00:09:37.400 Are you telling me?
00:09:38.380 Do you have reports?
00:09:39.520 I don't know.
00:09:40.400 I appreciate your passion.
00:09:42.300 Let me respond real quickly.
00:09:44.520 30 seconds ago, you didn't even know that Hezbollah was based in Lebanon.
00:09:47.460 I didn't say based.
00:09:48.480 I said they're everywhere.
00:09:50.520 No, they're not. 1.00
00:09:51.580 They're in Lebanon, period, full stop.
00:09:54.020 You might say there's one guy who has a cousin who's hanging out in a different part of town. 0.84
00:09:57.620 Hezbollah's in Lebanon, and this is exactly what it is. 1.00
00:10:00.440 You just said, obviously, we want to take out Hezbollah. 1.00
00:10:03.100 Yeah. 0.98
00:10:03.560 So kill how many civilians for one terrorist?
00:10:05.400 How do you assume that they do that?
00:10:07.400 What do you mean?
00:10:08.020 Adam, because I saw what they did in Gaza.
00:10:10.760 Dude, Gaza is flat.
00:10:12.880 It's flat.
00:10:13.660 So they killed almost 30.
00:10:14.540 Vinny, you got to pick a side here.
00:10:15.880 No, no, no, no.
00:10:16.640 Please don't play that game with me.
00:10:17.980 Hold on.
00:10:18.860 You either want to take out terrorists or you don't.
00:10:21.660 Time out.
00:10:22.340 Do not play the pick a side, Adam, when it comes to 25,000 or 20,000 children dead.
00:10:29.480 Don't play that game with me.
00:10:30.720 Children dead. 0.87
00:10:30.900 Because if terrorists were in this location, this location, Israel should have done. 0.57
00:10:34.900 Let me finish. 0.94
00:10:35.640 Slow down.
00:10:35.940 No, no, no.
00:10:36.320 What do you mean children dead? 0.83
00:10:38.120 Adam, if you show Gaza right now, and I don't even want him to show it,
00:10:42.300 look at what Gaza looks like.
00:10:43.840 Was there Hamas everywhere?
00:10:46.180 Yes.
00:10:46.380 Because it's flat.
00:10:47.240 Okay.
00:10:47.880 By the way, the whole children, and I know we don't want to talk about this,
00:10:50.580 the whole children dead.
00:10:52.120 Why are children dead?
00:10:54.440 Think about that.
00:10:54.980 Because when you go caution to the wind and you don't do a ground invasion,
00:10:59.140 go in the tunnels and go at everybody, you could just carpet bomb everybody
00:11:02.480 and just say, well, there's stairs there.
00:11:03.840 That's not fair.
00:11:04.040 Just one quick question, follow up.
00:11:05.280 where are these children hanging out
00:11:07.380 what do you mean Adam
00:11:08.820 they live there
00:11:10.480 by themselves they're hanging out
00:11:12.800 oh they're with their parents
00:11:15.080 gotcha so they're with their parents
00:11:17.880 who are basically
00:11:19.020 part of Hamas
00:11:20.720 is that your argument
00:11:23.040 is that all these kids that died these innocent children
00:11:25.140 their parents are Hamas 0.95
00:11:26.400 are you serious right now 1.00
00:11:28.080 I feel like we're going back years to have an argument
00:11:30.540 let's move on 0.99
00:11:31.220 Hamas is embedded in society 0.99
00:11:36.020 So kill everybody is your thing? 0.98
00:11:38.620 Why did it take so long? 0.99
00:11:39.900 What do you mean kill everybody? 0.87
00:11:40.980 If they wanted to kill everybody, there'd be a million people dead right now. 0.81
00:11:44.780 You have to understand. 0.96
00:11:46.280 If they wanted to kill everybody, which they don't, a real genocide,
00:11:51.300 there'd be a million people dead in Gaza.
00:11:53.280 Do you know that?
00:11:54.200 The fact that they're talking about only 60,000,
00:11:56.960 half of which are Hamas, half of which are civilians,
00:12:01.540 is a testament to the fact that they don't want to kill everybody.
00:12:04.380 It's a horrible ratio.
00:12:05.380 America killed how many people in Iraq?
00:12:07.660 How many people in Afghanistan?
00:12:08.860 And it was all wrong.
00:12:10.080 And I never heard the word genocide once.
00:12:11.880 What do you mean?
00:12:12.740 Adam, I left the military because of what we did in Iraq.
00:12:15.780 I, Vincent Oshana, left because of 9-11 in Iraq.
00:12:18.320 Let me get to this next story.
00:12:19.600 Here's the story I want to get to.
00:12:20.300 I don't understand your point.
00:12:22.100 Adam, let him go to the next story.
00:12:23.860 But what do you mean?
00:12:24.740 Adam.
00:12:25.160 What point?
00:12:25.780 Explain the point.
00:12:26.440 Tell me the point.
00:12:26.900 What point is this?
00:12:27.340 We're fighting radical terrorism.
00:12:30.260 And your point is what?
00:12:31.120 And my point is.
00:12:31.820 And I'm pointing.
00:12:32.760 I'm saying from a tactical point of view, they, the way that they handled Gaza.
00:12:37.400 Respectfully, let him ask a past question.
00:12:39.340 Yeah.
00:12:39.640 Let him answer a past question.
00:12:40.280 He's doing it.
00:12:41.300 What was the question?
00:12:42.320 What happened, Tom?
00:12:42.960 Yeah, he was doing it.
00:12:43.580 I thought you were asking him to explain this.
00:12:46.740 And we were trying to.
00:12:47.520 No, no, I'm asking.
00:12:48.520 Bottom line is this. 0.95
00:12:50.100 Whether you like it or not, the world, specifically the Middle East, has one major problem, brother. 0.97
00:12:55.120 You know what that is? 1.00
00:12:55.860 No Christ.
00:12:56.880 No Jesus Christ. 0.62
00:12:57.680 Okay, that's.
00:12:58.260 No, it's the truth.
00:12:59.440 Sure. 0.98
00:12:59.520 No Christianity. 1.00
00:13:00.180 none of this would be happening if they were all believers in christ sure great gotcha but they 0.99
00:13:05.080 believe in radical islam so you just went to christ they believe in allah and they believe 0.98
00:13:10.780 that they're going to reach paradise when they kill and maim and convert people or die so you're 0.99
00:13:17.380 going to have a choice of whether you're going to say huh i really don't like to see innocent people
00:13:21.740 dying nobody wants that or i'm going to let the radicals take over i'm fully on the point of we're
00:13:26.780 not letting them take over you're kind of still straddling the middle respectfully well we got to
00:13:31.580 take them out but we can't kill innocent people that's a problem we need christ buddy at some
00:13:37.520 point you're gonna have to realize this is the problem and israel and united states is addressing
00:13:42.200 it problem you think israel's the problem or islam's i think i think tactically the way they're
00:13:47.860 doing missions is not for instance is it okay if they want if you want to kill two terrorists 0.88
00:13:52.440 Are you okay with them taking down an entire apartment complex
00:13:55.820 That people are living in
00:13:57.540 I don't think
00:13:58.280 I think tactically send in your ground troops
00:14:01.040 Mossad is dope 1.00
00:14:02.360 IDF and all them
00:14:04.420 They don't want to get involved in the ground
00:14:06.140 Which I think Pat
00:14:07.020 You'll save civilians 0.87
00:14:08.380 Put some troops in there 0.97
00:14:11.480 Throw some troops on the ground
00:14:13.500 Go fight the war
00:14:14.220 By the way I'm defending America here
00:14:18.140 But I just feel like giving you some facts brother
00:14:19.840 How many people do you think live in Israel?
00:14:22.440 there's 350 million people in america 350 million there's a billion plus in iran i'm in uh in in
00:14:32.180 india there's a billion plus in china how many people do you think live in israel what's your
00:14:36.520 number it's five million five million it's 10 million people that's the size of a city in
00:14:43.840 america okay i know people in the idf you think they want to be at war how many how many tours
00:14:49.980 have you done? What do you mean tours?
00:14:52.180 I was just in the Air Force. Okay, so you weren't even a tour.
00:14:54.080 I know people on their fifth tour.
00:14:56.200 Seventh tour. They've been
00:14:57.520 in Lebanon. They've been in Gaza.
00:15:00.060 They've been flying to Iran.
00:15:01.860 They don't have enough people.
00:15:03.760 The whole conversation about sending boots to Iran. 0.94
00:15:06.300 They don't have enough people.
00:15:07.880 You know the famous situation with Joe Rogan? 1.00
00:15:10.180 He goes, how many Jews do you think there are
00:15:11.920 in the world? He goes,
00:15:13.380 a billion.
00:15:15.820 Let me lower my
00:15:17.360 expectations. Half a billion
00:15:19.320 people i think it was uh uh god sad that said uh try 15 million there's about 5 million that live
00:15:30.020 in the united states 10 million that live in israel there's not that many of them and 20 percent of
00:15:35.360 israel are arabs that are citizens that fight also in the idf so this whole concept of the boots on
00:15:40.520 the ground where you think all these people are going to be everywhere at once they don't have
00:15:43.660 the numbers that's just the bottom line and you have these 10 million people which very few less
00:15:49.660 than half a million are actually serving that are fighting war after war after war after war
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