Valuetainment - October 27, 2025


ā€œLeBron Better Have My Backā€ - Will FBI Probe Maverick Carter & Prevent LeBron From Hall of Fameļ¼Ÿ


Episode Stats


Length

23 minutes

Words per minute

195.71991

Word count

4,585

Sentence count

572

Harmful content

Misogyny

3

sentences flagged

Hate speech

5

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Maverick Carter is the CEO of Spring Hill Company, a sports betting company co-founded with former NBA player LeBron James. Carter has been accused of betting on the Lakers and other NBA teams, but has not been charged with a crime.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 You know what the biggest fear is right now, Tom?
00:00:02.720 If all of a sudden, you know who their superstar of the last two decades is
00:00:09.500 that they're hoping has nothing to do with this?
00:00:11.960 LeBron James.
00:00:12.760 Oh, for sure.
00:00:13.560 And let me tell you, who is LeBron James' guy?
00:00:16.640 Damon Jones.
00:00:17.560 No, no.
00:00:18.720 I'm talking management.
00:00:20.240 Lawyer.
00:00:20.700 I'm talking management.
00:00:22.840 Rich Paul.
00:00:23.680 I'm talking management.
00:00:24.980 So do you know the story of Mav Carter?
00:00:26.820 I do.
00:00:27.220 I mean, I know Mav.
00:00:29.200 Why?
00:00:30.000 I mean, maybe I don't know this story.
00:00:31.660 What's the story?
00:00:32.120 Do you know his gambling story?
00:00:33.720 Oh, I'm familiar with a little bit of it, yes.
00:00:36.600 Okay.
00:00:37.080 So Maverick Carter, who is who?
00:00:40.600 That's LeBron's guy.
00:00:41.860 That's LeBron's guy, and he's the CEO of Spring Hill Company.
00:00:44.900 Clutch Sports.
00:00:45.920 And uninterrupted Clutch Sports, who is co-founded with who?
00:00:51.200 LeBron James.
00:00:52.000 LeBron, yeah.
00:00:52.380 Rob, can you do me a favor?
00:00:54.600 Ask ChadGBT, has Mav Carter had gambling issues in the past before?
00:01:01.620 And look how he answers the questions.
00:01:04.700 According to multiple news reports, Mav Carter did admit in November of 2021, this is not a long time ago, okay, that he placed about 20 bets on football and basketball games over the course of a year, ranging $5,000 to $10,000.
00:01:18.040 He said he used the services of a bookie named Wayne Nix, who ran an illegal sports betting rink.
00:01:24.680 Carter told investigators he could not recall placing bets on the Lakers, despite his close business association with team star player.
00:01:34.620 Who is that?
00:01:35.340 LeBron James.
00:01:36.580 He was not charged with a crime.
00:01:38.400 The statement from his side said he cooperated with investigators, was not a target, and has not been contacted again in this matter.
00:01:45.880 Why?
00:01:46.980 Well, the NBA can't afford to lose LeBron James, of course.
00:01:50.340 While Carter admitted to the betting, the available public information does not show that he was found guilty of a crime.
00:01:56.500 But what do you mean you do not recall placing a bet on the Lakers or not?
00:02:03.200 Yeah.
00:02:03.580 You do not recall.
00:02:04.520 So here's what happens, okay?
00:02:07.300 Here's what happens.
00:02:08.060 Do you think President Trump has a memory where he remembers everybody who called him out?
00:02:15.240 1,000%.
00:02:16.160 And do you remember what LeBron called the president once?
00:02:19.580 A bum.
00:02:20.180 A bum.
00:02:21.140 And he constantly went after him.
00:02:22.500 Constantly talked crap about the administration.
00:02:24.000 He called the president a bum.
00:02:25.300 And do you think if there's any ties, text exchange, email exchange, of Mav Carter asking,
00:02:34.720 Bron, you're going to play tonight, you're not going to play tonight, this, you think if there's anybody,
00:02:39.700 if you put 10 names of people that know on any given night if LeBron's playing or not,
00:02:45.480 where would this guy rank on that list?
00:02:47.560 He'd be in the top five list.
00:02:48.380 Maverick Carter?
00:02:49.100 Yes.
00:02:49.440 He'd be numero uno.
00:02:50.620 Oh, then you know the number one, maybe number two.
00:02:52.720 So if Mav Carter is number one, and Rich Paul is two, and you gamble, you know what this is like?
00:03:00.260 Then Mav Carter is Nancy Pelosi. 0.99
00:03:03.220 Yeah.
00:03:03.540 So Mav Carter is Nancy Pelosi because nobody has more insider information than Mav Carter.
00:03:11.240 Shaq, when he's being interviewed, when they're doing Inside the NBA, he told Barkley, we were told at the beginning of the season,
00:03:17.200 whether you know if anybody is playing or not, if any of your friends and family members ask, always say they're playing.
00:03:21.880 Never say they're not playing.
00:03:23.880 We were briefed on this at the beginning of the season.
00:03:26.180 So if there is an ounce of anything on LeBron, do you think Cash and their FBI will go investigating LeBron?
00:03:39.240 And imagine if they do.
00:03:41.200 Imagine if they do.
00:03:42.920 Think about all the black eyes athletes have had. 0.78
00:03:48.280 Black eyes athletes have had.
00:03:50.640 Let's go through them.
00:03:51.920 Pete Rose.
00:03:53.180 Oh, yeah.
00:03:54.660 Greatest hitter of all time.
00:03:55.760 4,300 and something hits.
00:03:57.680 Rob, can you pull up how many hits he had?
00:03:59.060 4,250, 4,003 something.
00:04:01.920 Number one, nobody's had more hits.
00:04:03.440 I think the number two, Ty Cobb.
00:04:05.120 4,256.
00:04:05.640 4,256.
00:04:06.480 Okay.
00:04:07.140 Most hits.
00:04:08.300 Guy played lights out.
00:04:10.200 Did he ever make into the Hall of Fame while he was alive?
00:04:12.280 No.
00:04:13.140 What was Michael Jordan's?
00:04:14.660 Gambling.
00:04:15.160 Gambling.
00:04:15.620 What happened there?
00:04:16.480 He took a year and a half off and playing him to play baseball.
00:04:19.760 Who else you got?
00:04:20.960 A-Rod.
00:04:22.180 Palmeiro.
00:04:23.060 McGuire.
00:04:23.820 Sosa.
00:04:24.420 What was that?
00:04:25.440 Steroids.
00:04:26.060 What's that going to look like?
00:04:27.200 Hall of Fame.
00:04:27.460 FYI, if this goes that direction, none of those things will come as close to this as possible.
00:04:38.000 And guess who will not go in the Hall of Fame?
00:04:40.100 LeBron James.
00:04:40.820 Wow.
00:04:41.300 You really think so?
00:04:42.220 I don't say I think so.
00:04:43.660 No.
00:04:43.900 I said if.
00:04:44.840 I know you say no.
00:04:45.620 Now, if they find anything that LeBron participated in helping his boy Mav, who's a gambler.
00:04:57.900 Admittedly, illegal gambler.
00:04:59.340 Illegal gambler.
00:05:00.480 Admitted and nothing happened to him.
00:05:02.880 And when that nothing happened to him, that was what year 2021?
00:05:05.700 Who was president in 2021?
00:05:07.740 Joe Biden.
00:05:09.040 Okay.
00:05:09.300 Autopend.
00:05:09.840 That's right.
00:05:10.660 So guess what he cares?
00:05:11.880 That's nothing for him.
00:05:13.000 If they go this route and they go after Trump.
00:05:17.480 And I know you said something about Stephen A.
00:05:20.320 Here's what you got to realize, Vinny, about Stephen A.
00:05:23.480 My thoughts on also Stephen A.
00:05:25.500 I haven't told this to Stephen A.
00:05:28.600 Is who hates Stephen A?
00:05:32.260 LeBron James.
00:05:33.160 Who tried to destroy Stephen A's career?
00:05:35.420 LeBron James.
00:05:36.180 Who tried to make sure LeBron, Stephen A never got a job?
00:05:40.600 LeBron.
00:05:40.960 Who hated the fact that he got the contract?
00:05:43.820 Who knows all those additional phone calls that were made behind closed doors?
00:05:47.780 Who goes on Pat McAfee?
00:05:49.400 Who was the show after Stephen A and drops the bomb on Stephen A and talks shit about him?
00:05:54.440 Who did that? 0.91
00:05:55.300 LeBron did.
00:05:56.520 You don't think deep down inside Stephen A is kind of rooting for Trump?
00:06:01.760 Did you understand what I just went?
00:06:03.540 You don't think it's like, hey, man, listen.
00:06:05.360 Come on.
00:06:07.080 I know some stuff.
00:06:09.280 You know what I'm saying?
00:06:10.120 Go Trump.
00:06:10.920 I think I know some stuff.
00:06:12.040 I don't think he'll do it.
00:06:13.240 But let me tell you, you know who is the one guy that I guarantee knows 90% of stuff, 95% of stuff that's going on here is Stephen A.
00:06:23.180 I'm telling you right now.
00:06:24.800 So Stephen A knows a lot of stuff.
00:06:28.720 Of course.
00:06:29.060 So this is the point.
00:06:30.120 And by the way, Stephen A is going to watch this.
00:06:32.340 We haven't had a conversation about this.
00:06:34.300 I'm telling you what I'm thinking about.
00:06:36.100 Okay?
00:06:36.660 You're going to, we're going to have the conversation.
00:06:38.140 I totally get it.
00:06:38.600 I'm telling you what I think is going on here.
00:06:40.700 Meaning, I think in this area, if there's anybody in the NBA who are commentators, who knows the true character of LeBron, it's one guy.
00:06:50.380 Stephen A. Smith knows him.
00:06:52.280 He knows him.
00:06:53.100 So, I don't know.
00:06:55.560 I think there's an element of if there's a guy that they go after that is immediate ties to LeBron is Mav Carter.
00:07:06.120 If they get Mav Carter, guilty by association, they get LeBron.
00:07:10.020 If this happens, they keep LeBron out of Hall of Fame.
00:07:13.980 Holy shit.
00:07:15.360 By the way, do you know in the history of the NBA who has been kept out of the Hall of Fame?
00:07:19.860 Nobody.
00:07:20.820 I was just going to say, I don't.
00:07:21.820 It's baseball.
00:07:23.100 That you're kept out of the Hall of Fame.
00:07:24.580 Not in basketball.
00:07:25.720 You don't think these guys do steroids.
00:07:27.500 You don't think they do growth hormone.
00:07:29.080 You don't think they do GH.
00:07:30.960 You don't think they do all this other stuff.
00:07:32.520 What do you think?
00:07:33.180 Like, you don't think they're, you know, putting stuff in their body?
00:07:36.360 Of course not.
00:07:36.920 They're playing every night.
00:07:37.460 There's never been a single person in the history of the NBA that's been banned from the Hall of Fame and LeBron could be the first.
00:07:43.320 Oh, wow.
00:07:44.620 By the way, I'm not rooting for this.
00:07:46.840 And let me tell you why I'm not rooting for this.
00:07:48.080 The guy's a good father.
00:07:49.100 I see how he's with his kids.
00:07:50.580 He's with his wife.
00:07:51.320 He says, I don't know what I would do without my wife.
00:07:52.960 He's actually a good family guy.
00:07:55.640 But the way he went after Trump, calling him a bum and constantly mocking him as the face of the league.
00:08:02.120 LeBron, Kobe never did that.
00:08:03.500 Jordan never did that.
00:08:04.860 Shaq never.
00:08:05.320 These guys never did that.
00:08:06.420 You did that.
00:08:07.720 And the ratings dropped.
00:08:08.920 And nobody watches it anymore like they used to.
00:08:11.660 It dropped because of you.
00:08:12.780 I'm willing to bet.
00:08:14.400 You know when NBA viewership's going to go up?
00:08:16.420 The day LeBron retires.
00:08:18.120 If I'm a consultant to Adam Silver or anybody else, I would be saying, do whatever you can for this guy to retire.
00:08:25.560 We got to go past the LeBron faves.
00:08:27.560 And viewership will come back up.
00:08:28.920 Unless if the new face of the league is going to say some bullshit, like he said as well.
00:08:33.700 But Mav Carter, if there's any ties to him gambling, someone's about to go like this.
00:08:40.260 Oh, yeah.
00:08:40.840 Come here.
00:08:41.380 We got to talk to you.
00:08:42.680 We got some questions.
00:08:43.540 Give me your phones.
00:08:44.180 Give me all this stuff.
00:08:45.380 If Mav gets ā€“ and by the way, that would be one of the biggest days, kind of like the day when Giuliani got the 240 mobsters that were all walking out with handcuffs.
00:08:56.320 Yeah.
00:08:57.120 Look what he's wearing right there.
00:08:58.220 You think that's on purpose?
00:08:59.380 No, that is for sure intentional.
00:09:02.220 He's sending a message.
00:09:03.340 That is for sure intentional.
00:09:04.920 I'm telling you right now.
00:09:05.840 You know what Chauncey's saying?
00:09:07.140 LeBron, you better have my back or else.
00:09:09.080 Oh, for sure.
00:09:10.020 Could these guys ā€“ Vinny, it's ā€“
00:09:11.440 You know who Clutch Sports is, though, right?
00:09:12.940 That's a gambling website.
00:09:13.820 No, no, no.
00:09:14.900 Clutch Sports is LeBron's company.
00:09:16.560 Maverick and LeBron.
00:09:17.200 They're a company.
00:09:17.860 No, no, no.
00:09:18.260 That's like a subliminal ā€“
00:09:19.340 But Rich Paul's company is LeBron's company.
00:09:21.540 Yes, yes.
00:09:21.920 That's Clutch Sports.
00:09:22.340 Oh, wow.
00:09:22.420 There is no Clutch Sports without LeBron.
00:09:24.600 Correct.
00:09:24.900 Oh, I thought it was a gambling website.
00:09:25.420 So, Adam, go ahead.
00:09:26.260 Thoughts?
00:09:26.540 Well, yeah, there's a lot to unpack here.
00:09:28.100 Number one, the mob is back.
00:09:29.740 You know, we thought that organized crime was gone.
00:09:32.420 We thought they were done.
00:09:33.280 But here they are right in front of our face in the NBA gambling phenomenon that has swept the nation here.
00:09:41.660 Ironically enough, we would try to compare Jordan to LeBron.
00:09:44.740 The one thing we've never said about LeBron is that he gambles.
00:09:48.560 And now, one thing you could say about Jordan, you know, whether it was his gambling off the court,
00:09:54.560 whether it was the Vegas stuff, whether it was the golfing, you know,
00:09:57.600 in the famous last dance thing, they were throwing the money and then the dude that went like this,
00:10:03.760 the white guy, that was funny.
00:10:06.080 But here's another thing.
00:10:07.600 Michael Jordan, after he retired, and obviously the Jordan brand,
00:10:10.840 he ended up buying, I think, the Charlotte Hornets for X amount of hundreds of millions of dollars,
00:10:16.440 ended up selling it, 10X-ing it, I think, for a couple billion dollars.
00:10:20.400 The whole thing with LeBron, his legacy is cemented.
00:10:24.000 We know that he's arguably the second greatest player of all time.
00:10:26.500 What he wants to do is own an NBA franchise.
00:10:31.300 And ideally, it's going to be in what city, PPD?
00:10:33.860 In Vegas.
00:10:35.140 That's his whole thing.
00:10:36.400 So he wants to turn Sin City into Win City.
00:10:38.900 And this might be the one roadblock that he's going to have to deal with.
00:10:43.840 Now, in my opinion, Maverick Carter has not been guilty of anything whatsoever.
00:10:48.060 We'll see what happens there.
00:10:49.220 But has Maverick Carter had a history of gambling?
00:10:51.720 Yeah, he has.
00:10:52.620 But from what I hear, my sources, Maverick Carter is like the brains of the operation.
00:10:57.740 Rich Paul, he's more on the agent side of things.
00:11:00.680 He's sort of the hustler.
00:11:02.760 But Maverick Carter is not an idiot.
00:11:04.000 He's a smart guy.
00:11:04.900 It would be so stupid to ruin everything you've built for 30 freaking years over some gambling debts.
00:11:12.060 That, to me, is ridiculous.
00:11:12.840 So if LeBron is implicated whatsoever, you know there's going to be a fall guy.
00:11:17.060 Like your boy Shohei Ohtani, who might end up winning the World Series MVP.
00:11:20.980 What happened with that whole gambling nonsense?
00:11:23.200 He hasn't played great for World Series yet.
00:11:25.260 He has a what?
00:11:26.140 He's going to be MVP, but not World Series MVP.
00:11:28.380 He's still got work to do.
00:11:29.100 But keep going.
00:11:30.300 Don't act like you know sports a lot.
00:11:31.720 Come on.
00:11:32.400 Not already with the NBA.
00:11:33.820 What happened with that whole gambling thing?
00:11:35.680 Everyone thought that that was going to be the end of Shohei Ohtani.
00:11:37.400 That's the right point.
00:11:38.260 That the translator even went really, really fast.
00:11:41.300 But the point is this.
00:11:42.060 Why, though?
00:11:42.660 There's going to be a fall guy.
00:11:43.860 Why, though?
00:11:44.300 They're not going to let LeBron fall.
00:11:45.440 You made a very good point, but watch this.
00:11:47.080 Why did it come and leave very fast?
00:11:49.660 Why?
00:11:50.160 Because sports leagues protect their superstars.
00:11:52.480 But which superstars?
00:11:53.940 It's very technical here.
00:11:55.420 No, no, no, no, no, guys.
00:11:56.320 The growing superstar.
00:11:56.840 The growing superstar.
00:11:58.300 Yeah.
00:11:58.720 The growing superstar.
00:12:00.020 Not the declining superstar.
00:12:02.160 So now this guy has got one or two years left.
00:12:04.760 FYI.
00:12:05.160 I'm telling you right now, Tom.
00:12:06.520 When you come up and you kind of mind your own business and you do your own thing, you'll
00:12:16.260 be left alone, right?
00:12:18.140 Look at Michael.
00:12:19.480 How often do you see him on TV?
00:12:20.800 Never.
00:12:21.440 Now he's coming back.
00:12:22.500 Look at George Bush.
00:12:24.920 GW.
00:12:25.840 How often do you see him on TV?
00:12:27.700 Rarely.
00:12:28.100 How much shit does Bush get?
00:12:31.640 Nothing.
00:12:32.260 Not enough.
00:12:32.540 Think about it.
00:12:33.260 Not enough.
00:12:34.020 I'm telling you because he's what?
00:12:36.140 He's just gone.
00:12:37.060 What does Obama do?
00:12:38.500 Keeps popping up.
00:12:39.660 Why?
00:12:40.400 Because he has to because he's owned the other party.
00:12:43.440 Every day I remember Obama would say, I inherited an administration.
00:12:47.480 Bush never said anything.
00:12:49.220 Never said anything.
00:12:50.540 Obama, God forbid you move something onto Obamacare, you move one thing.
00:12:54.480 Yeah, but in this case, in this case, in this case, I think there's something there.
00:13:04.140 What do you think is there?
00:13:05.380 Well, listen, you don't cash Patel.
00:13:08.520 Okay, do you think Chauncey Billups speaks?
00:13:11.460 Do you think if Clutch doesn't protect him, do you think Chauncey opens up?
00:13:16.760 I think Chauncey is going to protect himself.
00:13:18.600 And in my opinion, I could be wrong.
00:13:19.880 I don't think Chauncey, I think he was like a bait for the mafia.
00:13:23.780 And by the way, amongst those three guys, to me, Chauncey shouldn't have been there.
00:13:28.220 My opinion.
00:13:28.920 I actually like Chauncey a lot.
00:13:30.680 Shouldn't be gambling, you mean?
00:13:31.620 No, I don't.
00:13:32.540 I think Chauncey got caught up.
00:13:35.280 I think Chauncey got caught up.
00:13:36.640 But do you think Chauncey is dumb?
00:13:39.320 No.
00:13:39.920 Do you think the way Chauncey played the game, do you think he played because he had a 38-inch vertical leap?
00:13:44.260 Or do you think he played the way because he was brilliant?
00:13:46.080 He's a leader.
00:13:46.680 He's a leader.
00:13:47.360 He was a captain.
00:13:48.080 He ran the floor, right?
00:13:49.260 So I don't know.
00:13:49.960 I think Chauncey has got a lot of respect and a lot of love from a lot of people in the league.
00:13:55.900 And I don't know if Chauncey and LeBron are on the same team.
00:13:58.240 I don't know.
00:13:59.300 I don't know if they're part of the same camp.
00:14:00.720 I know there's a lot of different factions.
00:14:01.820 Well, he's wearing that clutch sports thing.
00:14:03.720 But that's a statement.
00:14:05.980 Correct.
00:14:06.380 That's a statement.
00:14:07.400 That's a very different thing you're wearing.
00:14:09.180 When was that picture taken?
00:14:10.360 That was when he was coming out of jail.
00:14:11.920 That is wild.
00:14:12.920 That's the one shirt that he's wearing?
00:14:14.160 Oh, you haven't seen?
00:14:14.680 Yes.
00:14:14.760 Rob, do me a favor.
00:14:17.340 Pull up the video of him walking with the clutch sports.
00:14:19.860 So do that same thing except type in Chauncey Billups walking.
00:14:24.300 Walking out of court.
00:14:26.160 Walking out of court.
00:14:27.100 Watch this.
00:14:28.640 Let's see if the video go a little bit lower.
00:14:31.220 No.
00:14:31.740 Not that one go a little lower.
00:14:33.380 I want to see the video of him walking.
00:14:34.720 Right there.
00:14:35.320 Watch this.
00:14:35.900 Adam, watch this.
00:14:36.640 This was last week.
00:14:37.840 The fact that he's wearing.
00:14:38.600 I honestly thought it was a gambling matchup.
00:14:41.920 That's wild.
00:14:42.680 Well, it's that NBA head coach, Hall of Famer, Chauncey Billups.
00:14:46.640 And what is he wearing?
00:14:47.620 A clutch sports.
00:14:48.660 Why is he wearing a clutch sports?
00:14:49.700 That's Ridge Falls company with LeBron.
00:14:51.140 You think, by the way, just out of curiosity, what percentage do you give it that is just
00:14:55.720 purely, because I think there's a percentage that is coincidental.
00:14:58.480 There's a percent.
00:14:59.060 What percent chance do you think it's coincidental?
00:15:00.540 Five.
00:15:00.640 I'm with you.
00:15:01.820 Five percent.
00:15:02.500 I think 20% chance it's coincidental.
00:15:04.840 Okay?
00:15:05.280 I think 80% is intentional.
00:15:07.100 Which is where you'd lean.
00:15:08.960 Yeah.
00:15:09.420 Think so?
00:15:09.860 And I bet just a really fast.
00:15:11.820 He's talking without talking.
00:15:13.020 Guys, I'm telling you, if this, here's the one thing you got to know about Trump.
00:15:18.380 LeBron's either going to have to apologize.
00:15:21.060 You're going to see this.
00:15:23.200 I'm telling you guys right now, my feeling is, I know the profile of Trump.
00:15:29.140 I understand that profile very well of a human being.
00:15:32.680 I relate to it.
00:15:33.340 I understand it fully.
00:15:34.100 You're, if, yeah.
00:15:39.540 Can I give you another name?
00:15:41.320 I know, I know, I, I, I, trust me, I, I'll tell you.
00:15:45.620 LeBron is known for the flop.
00:15:49.020 And he is also turned from one city to another.
00:15:53.740 And I think this is the river.
00:15:55.740 And I'm telling, and I'm telling you right now, and you said, you made a good point.
00:15:58.640 I see the, being a father and, God bless you, being a father and a good father, to me, Pat,
00:16:03.620 that's a good side.
00:16:05.000 But to me, he's not that good of a dude.
00:16:06.780 Look at all the stuff that with Stephen A.
00:16:08.580 Do you guys remember, uh, Makai Bryant, who was a black girl who was trying to stab another
00:16:14.100 black girl.
00:16:14.660 A cop shows up, shoots the aggressor, and then he posts, LeBron posts a photo of the cop
00:16:20.640 and said, you're next, hashtag accountability.
00:16:23.480 That's calling for violence and then deletes the post.
00:16:26.480 Okay, all the stuff during the George Floyd, all the crap that he talked about the president
00:16:30.620 and all that stuff, I don't think he's that good of a guy.
00:16:33.560 The father part, I could understand, but I agree with you.
00:16:36.440 If there is an, an, an opening.
00:16:38.720 Dude, the guy said stuff like this.
00:16:40.340 I mean, are you kidding me?
00:16:41.640 Yup.
00:16:42.200 That's what he said.
00:16:42.880 So you, you don't think there's, and by the way, don't, you don't think cash has some
00:16:47.220 inner, like.
00:16:48.080 Oh, for sure.
00:16:48.800 You think we forgot, like how bad you made us look?
00:16:51.240 Yup.
00:16:51.780 Okay.
00:16:52.420 No problem.
00:16:53.560 No problem, BLM. 0.93
00:16:54.520 Yeah, BLM, he was, he was pushing that.
00:16:56.600 Listen.
00:16:56.880 That divide.
00:16:57.320 There would be no bigger story in the history of sports than if this guy doesn't make it
00:17:02.080 in the Hall of Fame because of something like that.
00:17:03.720 That'd be crazy.
00:17:04.340 Oh, I, what are the chances that happens?
00:17:06.060 Less than 1%.
00:17:06.960 I'm just kidding.
00:17:07.660 Thank you for clarifying.
00:17:08.700 I don't think, oh yeah, 2.5%.
00:17:10.860 I don't see it happening, but we're going to, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:17:14.080 Hang on, NBA guy.
00:17:14.900 Okay, NBA guy.
00:17:15.880 Wait a minute.
00:17:16.680 I'm curious.
00:17:17.780 Yeah.
00:17:18.140 Based on the way I set it up and I presented it, where are you at with the likelihood of him
00:17:22.320 not going to the Hall of Fame?
00:17:24.060 Prior to this podcast, 0%.
00:17:26.020 Now I'm at 0.01%.
00:17:27.980 You're selling me the dream here, buddy.
00:17:29.840 But now I'm not selling you the dream.
00:17:31.420 Here's all I'm telling you.
00:17:32.380 The NBA's not going to let LeBron go down like that.
00:17:34.200 Oh, but that's not how it works.
00:17:35.400 Let me tell you, that's not how it works.
00:17:36.660 Oh, no.
00:17:37.480 That's not how it works.
00:17:38.300 You know why that's not how it works?
00:17:39.640 Tell me.
00:17:42.740 The face of the league you're not going to put in the Hall of Fame?
00:17:45.220 That is disastrous.
00:17:46.160 Are you kidding me, freaking Pete Rose?
00:17:48.600 Yeah, baseball has standards, though.
00:17:49.280 What are you talking about?
00:17:50.520 Baseball has standards.
00:17:51.200 Pete Rose, Mark McGuire.
00:17:53.440 Barry Bonds is the freaking gold.
00:17:55.660 It's not even in there.
00:17:56.680 Are you serious?
00:17:58.460 By the way, as great as LeBron is, I don't know if he's Barry Bonds.
00:18:02.960 No, no.
00:18:03.500 Hear me out what I'm saying.
00:18:04.500 No, no.
00:18:04.780 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:18:05.420 Let me tell you where I'm putting.
00:18:06.420 You put Barry Bonds in his sport versus LeBron?
00:18:09.900 I'm sorry.
00:18:10.720 Barry Bonds is a beast.
00:18:11.480 Barry Bonds is a much, much greater athlete of his sports.
00:18:16.100 Do you know how hard baseball is?
00:18:17.360 No, no, no, no.
00:18:17.800 How many MVPs?
00:18:19.820 Dude, seven?
00:18:20.860 I don't know, eight?
00:18:21.280 Correct.
00:18:21.780 And he should have won the eight.
00:18:22.860 He should have won eight.
00:18:24.840 What's the single goal?
00:18:25.620 What is last in any sport?
00:18:26.900 But to me, if the MLB was willing to not allow Bonds, the first half of his career is a Hall of Fame career.
00:18:36.900 Roger Clemens is not in the Hall of Fame.
00:18:38.540 Are you freaking kidding me?
00:18:39.580 It's so stupid, the MLB.
00:18:40.200 How many times did he win the Cy Young?
00:18:41.320 How many times did Roger win the Cy Young?
00:18:43.000 How many times did he win the Cy Young?
00:18:44.240 How many Hall of Famers did not make it to the Hall of Fame in the MLB?
00:18:47.520 Are you kidding me?
00:18:48.260 Actually, seven Cy Youngs?
00:18:49.660 Clemens, not five.
00:18:50.640 He won seven.
00:18:51.240 Roger Clemens was here.
00:18:52.200 We had a great exchange.
00:18:53.260 You left the podcast for about a half hour.
00:18:54.600 He won seven times Cy Young, and he's not in the Hall of Fame.
00:18:59.100 It's so messed up.
00:18:59.820 Do you think LeBron?
00:19:00.680 No.
00:19:01.020 So to me.
00:19:01.660 In the MLB, they'll do it.
00:19:03.040 Not in the NBA.
00:19:03.640 But let me tell you, though.
00:19:04.580 Here's what you got to do.
00:19:05.200 Not in the NBA.
00:19:05.780 Listen, Adam Silver is not David Stern.
00:19:08.360 This is all I'm telling you.
00:19:09.240 Yeah, he's weaker.
00:19:10.300 So what's the point?
00:19:11.320 You know what David would do?
00:19:12.860 David Stern understands Trump.
00:19:16.420 They would have talked.
00:19:18.640 Adam Silver is not Trump profile.
00:19:21.320 David Stern is.
00:19:22.880 David Stern was a gangster.
00:19:24.360 David Stern ran the NBA.
00:19:25.860 He was Stern.
00:19:27.520 He was not a joke.
00:19:29.320 And by the way, guess what?
00:19:30.220 He was a Democrat.
00:19:31.880 He was a lawyer.
00:19:32.520 No, no, I'm being serious.
00:19:33.220 He was a Democrat and a lawyer.
00:19:34.560 Back in the day.
00:19:35.460 But it was a different era of Stern.
00:19:39.000 So to me, I don't know, guys.
00:19:41.100 I think something's going on here.
00:19:42.500 There's no.
00:19:43.260 Why would Cash Patel come out for three NBA players to say, let me tell you what we're
00:19:48.420 doing?
00:19:48.640 You think that's it?
00:19:49.580 You don't think there's something up here?
00:19:51.180 Hey, Cash, let me see, bro.
00:19:52.920 What do you got in there, dog?
00:19:54.080 Show it to me.
00:19:54.760 I'm with you.
00:19:55.420 Unbutton this.
00:19:56.420 Unbutton this, guys.
00:19:57.600 Show me.
00:19:58.260 I want to see it, dog.
00:19:59.400 Show it to me.
00:20:00.220 Pat, you know what David Stern would have done?
00:20:02.120 Shoot.
00:20:02.480 In a quiet restaurant with LeBron James, LeBron, this is a football.
00:20:09.040 You need to go away for two years.
00:20:11.180 I don't know about that.
00:20:11.760 Guys, one question.
00:20:12.600 I know you want to go to the next story.
00:20:14.040 That's the Hall of Fame thing.
00:20:15.740 What is the percentage of them actually, if this is true, going at, like, pursuing?
00:20:20.360 Can I give you my answer?
00:20:21.240 I want to know.
00:20:21.840 What is the percentage?
00:20:22.280 I'm going to give you my answer.
00:20:23.020 BBD said something.
00:20:23.740 If he's involved.
00:20:24.220 Signal and noise.
00:20:24.820 If he's involved.
00:20:25.640 Signal and noise.
00:20:26.540 Yeah.
00:20:26.940 We're tracking the noise right now.
00:20:28.500 If he's involved.
00:20:29.140 Billups.
00:20:30.020 LeBron.
00:20:30.380 What's going on?
00:20:31.780 I'm hearing Kevin Garnett's name all of a sudden.
00:20:33.860 Yeah, I did too.
00:20:34.200 Who's best friends?
00:20:35.160 If LeBron.
00:20:35.860 But the signal.
00:20:37.400 Let me tell you something.
00:20:38.620 What?
00:20:38.800 It's not the NBA players.
00:20:40.800 It's the Gambinos. 1.00
00:20:42.780 I don't know.
00:20:43.300 And the crime families.
00:20:44.540 The Genovese.
00:20:45.580 Trump.
00:20:45.600 Trump.
00:20:45.920 And Luchesi.
00:20:46.880 And the Bananos.
00:20:48.200 That's the criminals.
00:20:49.480 I don't think.
00:20:49.800 It's called organized crime for a reason.
00:20:51.740 No, Adam.
00:20:52.380 I'm going to finish this.
00:20:53.760 The guys are going to go down and be the fall guys or the mafia guys.
00:20:56.800 I appreciate Pat's summation.
00:20:57.980 I think we can probably move on.
00:20:59.000 And I'm going to say this.
00:21:00.500 This will either become steroids like baseball where action is taken or it's going to be
00:21:06.600 the Epstein files where everybody knows everybody's guilty but nothing happens.
00:21:10.160 And that's where Vinny's going to lose his mind.
00:21:12.180 You know why it won't be the Epstein files?
00:21:14.080 Do you know why it won't be the Epstein files?
00:21:15.680 I happen to agree.
00:21:16.620 But there's two possibilities, don't you think?
00:21:18.500 Stop.
00:21:19.280 Do you know why it won't be the Epstein files?
00:21:21.360 Do you know why it won't be the Epstein files?
00:21:22.640 Because can you tell me how many people in Trump's circle are in the NBA?
00:21:28.300 Not too many.
00:21:30.280 Not too many.
00:21:31.580 So you ain't got to worry about that.
00:21:33.520 None of the people I know were at those card games.
00:21:36.180 No, guys, this is about to be a very different story.
00:21:41.640 If this goes as far as they go, damn.
00:21:45.900 Talk about like a, all right, folks.
00:21:49.940 Here comes the river.
00:21:51.040 Let's go to the next story.
00:21:52.520 Let's go to the next story.
00:21:54.240 Let's go to the next story.
00:21:54.580 And by the way, remember, for those of you guys that you ever wonder why we have the gear
00:21:58.660 Allegedly, Rob?
00:21:59.600 Can you go back?
00:22:00.700 Let me just go to our insurance sponsors here.
00:22:02.480 It's called Allegedly.
00:22:03.460 Yes.
00:22:03.720 Okay?
00:22:04.260 Everything we said was Allegedly.
00:22:06.560 All Allegedly.
00:22:06.940 If you would like to be protected by the Allegedly community, go get yourself an Allegedly shirt. 0.99
00:22:11.260 Oh, wow.
00:22:11.880 Sale.
00:22:11.960 Go get yourself an Allegedly.
00:22:13.240 Nice.
00:22:13.680 Holy moly.
00:22:14.280 I didn't know the Allegedly hat.
00:22:15.760 Go get yourself. 0.95
00:22:16.820 Look at the black hat with the white trim.
00:22:18.300 That's my favorite.
00:22:18.780 That's actually sick.
00:22:19.460 Rob, put that link below for 15 bucks.
00:22:22.180 Go get yourself an Allegedly shirt and a sweater and get yourself protected from anybody else.
00:22:28.300 They're going to say, wait a minute.
00:22:29.200 I used the word Allegedly.
00:22:30.720 All right.
00:22:30.980 We're going to see what's going to happen here.
00:22:32.460 Let's go to the next story.
00:22:33.380 I'll put the link below if you could, Rob, for Allegedly.
00:22:35.640 So some people can go Allegedly.
00:22:37.100 You can use Allegedly everywhere, right?
00:22:38.420 Young people with their parents, middle-aged people caught in an affair, Allegedly gear
00:22:43.940 can come in handy all the time.
00:22:45.320 Tom, that was inappropriate.
00:22:46.100 Is that the shaggy defense? 0.93
00:22:47.120 It wasn't me.
00:22:47.740 Yes.
00:22:48.440 If you enjoyed this video, you want to watch more videos like this, click here.
00:22:51.160 And if you want to watch the entire podcast, click here.
00:22:58.300 Bye.
00:22:59.140 Bye.
00:22:59.400 Bye.
00:22:59.820 Bye.
00:23:01.860 Bye.
00:23:02.140 Bye.
00:23:02.340 Bye.
00:23:02.680 Bye.
00:23:03.380 Bye.
00:23:03.720 Bye.
00:23:03.920 Bye.
00:23:04.220 Bye.
00:23:04.420 Bye.
00:23:04.800 Bye.
00:23:07.340 Bye.
00:23:08.140 Bye.
00:23:09.400 Bye.
00:23:10.000 Bye.
00:23:10.360 Bye.
00:23:10.600 Bye.
00:23:10.840 Bye.
00:23:11.020 Bye.
00:23:12.140 Bye.
00:23:12.420 Bye.
00:23:13.020 Bye.
00:23:13.980 Bye.
00:23:15.020 Bye.
00:23:15.680 Bye.
00:23:16.260 Bye.
00:23:16.560 Bye.
00:23:17.100 Bye.
00:23:18.700 Bye.
00:23:19.300 Bye.
00:23:20.000 Bye.
00:23:20.520 Bye.
00:23:21.020 Bye.
00:23:21.500 Bye.
00:23:22.540 Bye.
00:23:22.720 Bye.
00:23:25.000 Bye.