Valuetainment - April 10, 2026


Luigi Mangione Wrote Me a Letter From Prison…

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Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
D. Luigi Mangione Kobe Bryant Brian Thompson Patrick Bett David R. Kelly Diddy Ghislaine Maxwell Nicolas Maduro Luigi Manchioni Bone Thugs Lifestyle Joker
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Episode Stats


Length

10 minutes

Words per minute

196.98

Word count

2,105

Sentence count

179

Harmful content

Misogyny

5

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Toxicity

2

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Hate speech

1

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Summary

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On this episode of the podcast, Pat McAfee talks about a letter he received from Luigi Mangione, the man who is serving a life sentence for the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Pat also talks about how important it is to write a letter to a fellow inmate.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 So recently, I get a letter from Luigi Mangione.
00:00:02.520 My assistant comes to me and says, you got a letter from Luigi Mangione.
00:00:05.520 I said, which Luigi Mangione?
00:00:06.620 He says, D. Luigi Mangione.
00:00:07.820 I said, D. Luigi Mangione from the Metropolitan Detention Center?
00:00:10.620 Yes.
00:00:10.800 In Brooklyn?
00:00:11.420 Yes.
00:00:12.260 The same place that a lot of these guys, Nicolas Maduro is at right now, by the way,
00:00:16.100 Jelaine Maxwell, R. Kelly Diddy, some of these guys?
00:00:18.360 Yes.
00:00:19.120 The guy that got accused of killing Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Health?
00:00:23.080 Yes.
00:00:24.300 What's he writing me a letter for?
00:00:25.880 I don't know.
00:00:26.880 Okay.
00:00:27.840 So what do I do?
00:00:28.620 I open it up.
00:00:30.000 And I read through it.
00:00:32.120 And by the way, to tell you how well it was written would be an understatement.
00:00:38.660 This was written as if a kid went to Harvard or Yale.
00:00:44.700 Good writer, sense of humor, sarcasm, witty, even a riddle in there.
00:00:49.980 He even cut a piece out, like go figure it out for yourself.
00:00:53.540 Clips, go watch these clips of these philosophers.
00:00:56.000 You can tell.
00:00:57.400 You can tell he's very intellectual.
00:01:00.920 Deep meaning in the way he's writing his stuff, right?
00:01:03.900 And even in there he talks about, because one day I'm doing a podcast,
00:01:06.520 my phone blows up with a couple hundred messages.
00:01:08.300 Pat, a viral article is going around right now of Luigi Mangione,
00:01:13.800 who turned 27 years old, writing 27 things he's grateful for.
00:01:17.620 And number seven is you.
00:01:18.720 I said, number seven, I don't have a connection with him.
00:01:21.120 Yeah, go read it.
00:01:21.820 Number seven, I'm grateful for Patrick B. David's book, Your Next Five Moves.
00:01:28.380 Really? Yes.
00:01:29.700 And he's passing it around in the prison he's at right now.
00:01:33.460 Huh, interesting.
00:01:34.900 How that book made it there, who knows, but it's there.
00:01:38.620 And then in here he says, Pat, out of all the 27 things I wrote that I was grateful for,
00:01:44.160 the one that I got the most hate mail was number seven, Your Next Five Moves.
00:01:48.660 A lot of girls who are Gen Z were not happy about that. 1.00
00:01:52.040 He says, you have a Gen Z female problem.
00:01:55.060 He says that in the letter.
00:01:56.120 Anyways, he said a lot of other things.
00:01:57.940 So I sat on it, and I said, what do I tell this guy?
00:02:01.680 Do I write back?
00:02:03.980 You know, what level of hope does a person have at 27 years old that is accused of killing the CEO of a company, UnitedHealthcare?
00:02:11.220 And we all know that UnitedHealthcare was known for lowest percentage of paying insurance to their clients or, you know, a payout that they're giving.
00:02:20.860 So it's not like they had a good reputation.
00:02:22.900 But to go and allegedly kill that CEO, what do you tell a guy like that in the letter?
00:02:29.120 What do you tell him?
00:02:29.720 So I sat there and I thought about it.
00:02:31.500 I remember being in military and how much letters meant to us.
00:02:35.500 Till today, my teacher from my high school, health and guidance teacher, that I met her when I was 14 years old.
00:02:41.220 I'm 47, 33 years old.
00:02:43.240 You know, until today, we write letters to each other.
00:02:45.740 Every three months, I get a letter from her. 1.00
00:02:47.260 She's got chickens. 1.00
00:02:48.060 She's got this. 1.00
00:02:48.540 She's got that.
00:02:49.600 But it took me back to when I was in the military how valuable our response was.
00:02:54.060 So I wrote a letter back to him, and I sent it yesterday with six books to him.
00:02:59.300 So I think those other six books, he's got time to read.
00:03:02.100 So I sent him the other six books to go through as well.
00:03:04.140 The guy's got a sense of humor, even though he knows what he's done.
00:03:08.280 And I have so many questions that I wrote in the letter to him.
00:03:11.220 But maybe think about something else.
00:03:13.160 How does this apply to you and I?
00:03:15.960 You and I directly and indirectly.
00:03:18.480 I was a kid back in the days that, you know, I listened to a lot of Tupac.
00:03:24.740 I listened to a lot of Hit Him Up.
00:03:26.000 I probably listened to Hit Him Up, I don't know, 500 times.
00:03:28.660 That was my workout song.
00:03:29.900 I listened to Eazy-E, Real Mother, You Know What, Gs.
00:03:33.200 I listened to RBL Posse.
00:03:34.860 I listened to Rappin' Forte and, you know, Bone Thugs and Harmony and DMX and all these guys.
00:03:40.680 I hung out with guys that were troubled kids, and I was part of a basketball league that was with Blood and Crip and Black Diamonds and 18th Street and Tunerville and all these guys, TVR.
00:03:53.120 I was in that community trying to figure myself out at 14 years old.
00:03:57.380 Parents got a divorce.
00:03:58.320 Life was a little bit interesting, and I went into the military.
00:04:02.740 And so I thought about myself.
00:04:06.280 Luckily, when I was in those moments of being impressionable and vulnerable,
00:04:12.140 the right people were in my ear.
00:04:15.420 And so it got me to go back and think about a guy I interviewed
00:04:18.180 who was an FBI criminal profiler.
00:04:20.320 This guy would talk to you right after a person killed their wife.
00:04:24.200 He was the first person that interviewed the husband that's accused of killing his wife.
00:04:27.900 Vice versa, wife accused of killing the husband, 0.54
00:04:30.640 he's interviewing the wife to see what got you to the point of killing your wife.
00:04:35.720 What was it? 0.99
00:04:36.600 Was it cheating?
00:04:37.400 Did he hit you?
00:04:38.780 Did he remind you?
00:04:39.740 Did she do this?
00:04:40.600 What gets you to point of killing?
00:04:42.840 And we all read or see these movies or the stories we go through, right?
00:04:45.840 What got you there?
00:04:46.720 And I said, Jim, what makes somebody do this?
00:04:48.520 This has been 22 years of doing this.
00:04:50.480 You know, it comes down to three things.
00:04:52.000 I said, what is it?
00:04:53.060 He said, genetics loads the gun.
00:04:55.780 Genetics.
00:04:56.700 Mom and dad loads the gun.
00:05:00.120 He says, your personality aims the gun.
00:05:03.100 but he said life experiences pulls the trigger so life experiences this guy had back issues
00:05:10.880 he had certain health problems his grandpa was a very successful businessman made a lot of money
00:05:16.300 he had the trajectory of he was a valedict this is not a regular kid he was a valedictorian could
00:05:22.620 have been a net positive to society working building a business creating jobs maybe getting
00:05:27.060 involved in politics doing something positive for the world he had that brain to do it he had
00:05:32.200 the genetics to do it but those life experiences the 90 days that he went on his own and mother
00:05:39.060 couldn't find him and eventually around november of 2024 i believe mom reported that i think my
00:05:45.140 son is missing and then december 4th is the day he's accused of killing brian thompson we've all
00:05:50.240 seen the videos and the day they caught him so what happened during those 90 days you know one
00:05:56.200 one of the movies i hate the most when i tell you i don't hate a lot of movies i hate this movie
00:06:02.660 you know what's the movie i hate the most joker with joaquin phoenix absolutely hate the movie
00:06:08.580 joker you know why at 43 minutes i don't know what the timeline was i'm sitting with my wife
00:06:13.320 we went with about 20 of us and the story is the guy ends up killing the capitalist the wealthy
00:06:19.740 guy and he's a hero look at this guy wow you know take out these rich and blah blah blah blah 0.97
00:06:24.620 And I said, what kind of a freaking movie is this?
00:06:28.780 How many kids is going to watch this and they're going to be like, you know what? 0.93
00:06:31.480 I'm going to be a hero.
00:06:32.560 Let me go take out somebody in power.
00:06:34.260 That could have been him.
00:06:35.900 Luigi Manchin could have watched Joker while he's away with somebody else.
00:06:39.140 And somebody's in his ear.
00:06:40.360 You know what?
00:06:40.900 Look what they're doing.
00:06:42.720 And what happened with you with insurance?
00:06:43.880 And this is not fair.
00:06:44.760 And all of a sudden you're like, I am right.
00:06:47.460 And the system is wrong.
00:06:48.660 And when you get to that point, that's a very dangerous place to be.
00:06:51.200 because you're almost giving yourself permission
00:06:53.700 to justify doing something crazy like this.
00:06:57.540 But I still don't get it.
00:06:58.660 How does this apply to me?
00:06:59.640 Do you have kids?
00:07:01.020 Do you have a son?
00:07:02.020 Do you have a daughter?
00:07:02.820 Do you have a nephew?
00:07:03.860 Do you have a cousin?
00:07:05.360 Are you 17 years old watching this?
00:07:07.440 You're impressionable.
00:07:09.220 When you're at the lowest in life, and we will be,
00:07:12.780 many times we will be.
00:07:14.900 I got four kids.
00:07:15.900 Many times we will be.
00:07:17.660 When you're at the lowest, dude,
00:07:19.420 you better guard who you listen to and what you watch and what you read.
00:07:25.160 I don't care if you're 14.
00:07:26.940 I don't care if you're 44.
00:07:28.360 I don't care if you're 64.
00:07:30.920 This is our entire life.
00:07:33.140 This thing's not easy.
00:07:34.260 This thing's tough.
00:07:35.500 But we are also the luckiest people alive to witness what we have today.
00:07:39.560 And as tough as life is, it isn't as tough as it was 200 years ago
00:07:43.180 or 800 years ago or 1,200 years ago.
00:07:46.060 It's a lot easier today than it was back in the days.
00:07:49.200 Lifestyle is a lot better today.
00:07:50.960 AC wasn't around 140, 150 years ago.
00:07:53.680 You're probably in an AC place right now watching this video.
00:07:57.360 Probably have access to food.
00:07:58.600 You probably get access to the greatest computer in the world.
00:08:01.180 You probably are watching this on it.
00:08:03.080 We are so lucky.
00:08:04.300 Think about the perspective.
00:08:06.260 But, and when I was writing the letter, I'm like,
00:08:10.800 you know, this could have been a friend of mine.
00:08:13.320 I lost a friend when I was younger.
00:08:14.800 Until today, I think about him all the time.
00:08:16.720 This is someone's friend.
00:08:17.560 This is someone's son.
00:08:18.940 This is someone's cousin.
00:08:20.940 This is someone's grandson.
00:08:24.100 Someone got to him at 25, 26 years old that made him believe this is the right thing to do.
00:08:29.940 What was the third one?
00:08:31.340 Experiences does what?
00:08:33.100 Pulls the trigger.
00:08:34.980 I don't know.
00:08:35.820 So, you know, what I would take from the message if I'm you is,
00:08:40.100 i promise you this either made you think about you or it made me think about somebody else
00:08:47.800 whatever you could do make a list of two or three different people right now
00:08:52.940 and just send them an audio message and lift them up lift them up just send a message and say hey
00:09:00.400 i just want to let you know i believe in you it's all going to be fine share scripture with them
00:09:06.480 encouraging message something that could lift them up you would be amazed how how many times
00:09:13.620 we just need a message like wait where did this come don't even tell them what inspired you want
00:09:17.420 to send this to them just tell them tell her you would be amazed how much of an impact you can have
00:09:23.860 on three people today that's it so imagine if a million of us do this we positively impacted
00:09:30.560 three million people today. What does that do? A lot. Sometimes that's all we need. But
00:09:36.820 some tells me he's going to be watching this from prison. You know why? Because he watches a podcast
00:09:43.480 with others from prison because he talked about the other crew, people that are on there. Again,
00:09:48.800 you can tell the guy's got a sense of humor and I know he watches the content because somehow,
00:09:52.980 some way they have access to the stuff that we talk about here. Having said that, my body's hot
00:09:58.380 right now just thinking about this message that I shared with you because this was a heavy message.
00:10:02.140 This is a little bit more than just motivational. Let's go out there and do something big with our
00:10:05.760 lives, right? No, this is heavy. A lot of people are dealing with the wrong people being in their
00:10:09.560 ears, and we want to make sure we prevent them from becoming a story that we read about in the
00:10:15.220 paper. If you got value out of this message, especially the 51% of you that consume our
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00:10:39.680 Take care, everybody.
00:10:40.400 God bless.
00:10:40.960 Bye-bye.