In this episode of the podcast, we speak to the author of the new report, "Rape, Abuse, and Incest: The Truth About Pakistan's Rape Epidemic" about the shocking number of women and girls raped in Pakistan between 2001 and 2006. We also hear from victims of sexual assault, who share their harrowing stories of being raped by men and dogs.
00:00:30.000Speak to the audience, assume they've not read the whole thing.
00:00:34.260Share some stats, share some testimonies, share some stories,
00:00:38.880because it's so uncomfortable to even read it and listen to it,
00:00:43.740but I think the truth needs to be laid out.
00:00:46.080So if you don't mind sharing a couple of their testimonies of the two weeks
00:00:49.100that you listened to, which I'm sure was very difficult,
00:00:51.920walk the audience through with a couple different things.
00:00:54.280When you're saying 250,000, what percentage, they were raped by who,
00:00:58.760You know, what backgrounds did they have? I think it's good for the audience to grasp that directly coming from you.
00:01:04.580Well, the majority of the perpetrators of the rape were of Muslim background from predominantly Pakistan and very often from one part of Pakistan called Mirpur.
00:01:18.740But there were other perpetrators from Eritrea, from Somalia, from Bangladesh, from Afghanistan.
00:01:30.440So, look, I mean, it's predominantly an issue, we think, from doing our research with Pakistani Muslim men.0.51
00:01:39.440And by the way, it's not just girls who get raped, it's boys as well.
00:01:42.860So that we didn't cover massively in the report, but it's quite clear that was happening too.
00:01:48.740So, I mean, I did a speech in Westminster Hall about a month ago where I actually read some of the testimonies.
00:01:55.120So I'll read you a couple of little, I have to put my glasses on, being very old these days.
00:12:03.140You've got some you've got some pretty awful people running, you know, cities like Los Angeles and Chicago and, you know, other other parts of the U.S.
00:12:14.280So I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't festering away in Minnesota.
00:12:18.980I think you've got a similar issue. It may well be festering away in places like that.
00:12:23.760And people aren't aware of it. I wasn't aware of this, you know, as I said, as we said in the report until we actually read some victim testimony.
00:12:33.140which came through because, again, if you don't come across it normally,
00:12:38.700you wouldn't expect this sort of evil to be happening on your doorstep.
00:12:44.600But this has been happening for decades.
00:12:46.620And the part I wanted to ask you is a testimony of Fiona.
00:12:50.440In Fiona's testimony on the bottom, it says the call handler told her,
00:12:56.700you can't describe them as Asian men because that's racist.
00:13:00.680You should just be glad your child is being taught a different culture.1.00
00:13:04.700On one occasion, a police officer returned Fiona to the house
00:13:08.300where the abuse was occurring and told the man to have fun with her.
00:13:14.040I mean, if you have a government or cops,
00:13:17.900their job is to protect the helpless, those who can't help themselves.
00:13:21.820If this is out there, because on one end, Keir Starmer the other day,
00:13:26.160He tweeted something about the previous incident that happened last week
00:13:30.340and saying this 36-year-old white Scottish man is being investigated by counterterrorism.
00:13:36.100Can you go back on the tweet where you had it?
00:13:37.960A counterterrorism police after five people were stabbed in Edinburgh.
00:13:45.820I'm protecting the country from these effing Muslim bastards raping our young daughters.1.00
00:13:51.140And Mehdi Hassan responded and said the same week that Rupert Lowe put out this bullshit rape gang report falsely claiming Muslims raped 250,000 white girls and same week Elon Musk amplified it on here.1.00
00:14:02.480This happens. Is anyone surprised? They're inciting violence against Muslims and emboldening extremists.0.99
00:14:09.680And so, Patrick, I don't buy that because what I I have nothing and I sit in parliament with a lot of the Muslim independents and I get on fine with them.
00:14:17.940they're perfectly decent and intelligent people but the point is if this evil is happening the
00:14:23.500job of the police and the job of the government is to treat everybody equally under the law
00:14:28.000and deal with it in the correct way and stop it but that's what they haven't done as you said for
00:14:33.680fear of being called racist and and actually they go further than that so they lock people up so
00:14:39.720when we had the southport killings which was the killing of three young girls tragically up in
00:14:45.360southpaw lucy connolly put out some social media posts and deleted them four hours later because
00:14:52.520she was so shocked by what had happened and she ended up going to prison for 30 months uh and then
00:14:59.060you get some of these people who perpetrate this kind of rape and our judges over here as i said
00:15:04.540to you that the system's gone badly wrong because of the the tony blair's creation of the supreme
00:15:10.920court which has become a quango a woke quango uh some of these people are let off with lesser0.67
00:15:16.280sentences because uh the judges say that they are culturally not understanding what they've done
00:15:24.040wrong well i'm sorry that doesn't work for me if we all live in a country we accept the fact
00:15:30.040that we live under one set of rules one set of laws and one set of policing and everybody should0.93
00:15:35.800be treated in the same way but the government very gradually as i say it goes to the muslim
00:15:41.800bloc vote it goes to power patrick it goes to being elected and these votes historically have
00:15:48.360gone to labor and particularly as i say in in the big inner city areas so labor rely on these votes
00:15:55.960that's why i don't personally think labor either will or should win another general election
00:16:01.800because they have allowed this pervasive evil to grow and damage the structure of britain
00:16:08.600and and i hope the british people will punish them uh from now on uh in the ballot box for not
00:16:15.880delivering as they should have done and again there's the new the new ghostbuster burnham who
00:16:21.640is supposed to be uh unveiled as our new prime minister unelected prime minister again and the
00:16:27.960track record of unelected prime ministers is pretty poor if you look at your last seven uh
00:16:32.920people who've been and gone you know he was involved in this rape gang issue in manchester
00:16:39.320which is a big which is a big sort of axis of it um and there is criticism of him uh from many
00:16:47.800people for not digging deep enough and actually getting to the cause of the problem and the heart
00:16:53.400of the problem so he's not above criticism uh and i'm afraid it runs deep through the british
00:17:01.560establishment and i i it's a it's a combination of power and this fear of being called a racist
00:17:09.560which has become a fate in this country which people fear worse than anything well we have a
00:17:16.200mantra for that we say we don't care and the only way we can deal with this is to actually look at
00:17:21.240at the facts and if people call us racist even though we're not we just have to accept that we
00:17:26.040have to be tough but a lot of people in in britain do not want to be called racist i happen to think
00:17:31.720britain is the least racist country on earth and i've traveled very widely in in in many parts of
00:17:37.820the world and i've found far more racism and far more sexism in other parts of the world than i do
00:17:43.760in britain britain on the whole has very kind people and i i don't blame the people the people
00:17:48.720in Britain are some of the best people on earth. What's happened is the people who lead the country
00:17:54.500have gone very badly wrong. And I think until we change that, they'll go on making bad decisions
00:18:00.980and we'll go on suffering the consequences of that. Fathers, one of the most powerful quotes
00:18:05.400I ever heard was the following. Your ceiling is your kid's floor. Let me say it one more time.
00:18:10.960Your ceiling is your kid's floor. The more we raise the standards on the way we lead,
00:18:16.560on the way we live, on the way we make money, on the way we take care of our kids,
00:18:20.740that becomes the floor for them to go above it.
00:18:23.340So if you're watching this, I know deep down on the side, we all want to be great fathers.