“Males Can Have Babies” - UK TV Host DESTROYS Activist In WILD Trans Pregnancy Debate
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Summary
In this episode, Rob and Rob talk about the controversial topic of gender identity and parenting with a trans man's son, and how the trans man handled the situation. Rob talks about his own experience with his own trans son and how he dealt with the situation, and Rob shares a story of a trans woman who was born female, but identifies as male.
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this British broadcaster okay is having this conversation this guy named Ben Leo who I
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didn't learn about till this weekend he does a great job he's talking to a pro trans GP
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and while they're going back and forth Ben is talking about what happened with his oldest son
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and I want you to watch this exchange remember this is happening where Rob this is in Britain
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right GP Great Britain UK so he is not necessarily the safest to be able to speak like this because
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it's pretty controversial there it's very different than America and UK right now but watch how he
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handles this whole thing go ahead Rob two-year-old son came up to me the other day I went back home
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to the UK and he said daddy I'm going to have a baby I said Zach you can't have a baby because
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you're you're a boy you're you're you know you're a man you can't have babies and he said well I'm
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going to be a girl I want to be a girl what would you have said to him if you were me well I wouldn't
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have said Zach you're you're a boy and boys can't have babies because that's absolutely not true
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so I mean my I don't know what your parenting is like you don't think boy you think boys can have
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babies you mean males yes yes you think males sorry you think males can have babies yes right
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transgender males have a womb a uterus and ovaries okay so they were they were born if you like
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female and they are but they actually identify as male so we refer to them as males they have ovaries
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a womb a uterus a vagina and that means you can carry a baby transgender males being women
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well that's extremely disrespectful to transgender males I don't well they are women aren't they
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they're biological women they are males but if they're males what do you mean biological women
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well hang on a minute if they're males why do you call them transgender males why put transgender in
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there transgender is an adjective but if they just call them males then why do you call them transgender
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no problem at all so you're changing that now no I'm not changing that you said you can males have
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babies and I said yes males can have all over your website you refer to transgender women transgender
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males if these people are genuinely male and female why do you call them transgender well why do you
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use adjectives for anything if you're if you're clarifying if you're teaching somebody like I'm
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teaching you now you you need to clarify so so instead of so this is interesting so instead of
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telling my two-year-old son as I did Zach you can't have kids you're a boy I think that's sad
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oh I do I think you know if you're if my son do you know what it did do you know what it did he said
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oh okay daddy that's fine and the next day he said daddy I'm spider-man would you want me to
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entertain that conversation so well Zach maybe you are what do you say oh god no not
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spider-man oh god Zach you can't be a girl god Zach you can't be spider-man or can't we just let
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children explore two is amazing age to explore why aren't we letting our children keep this woman
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away from I actually feel sorry for Zach right now oh well sorry okay well I don't because Zach
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has never mentioned I feel sad for Zach right now so watch this Rob can you pause and let's just go
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through comment section and let's see what the world thinks about this right go a little bit low how is
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this even a real conversation young children toddlers need a secure stable foundation
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of identity uh before they can even begin to understand a broader spectrum of gender or
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sexuality any other conversation is just too far complex daddy I want to jump off a cliff sure Zach go
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ahead and explore whatever they want to be free more of Zach's dad please lord thank you bravo for
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young and smart Ben she says I don't know what your parenting style is as if she isn't 65 years old
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and didn't grow up with traditional values while western is busy uh uh having those debates
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China's inventing 7g no kidding Zach's dad here is doing his best to guide Zach one way but Zach would
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still mix up with kids with parents like this lady this lady really needs serious help I feel sorry
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for you not Zach Ben Leo round of applause go a little bit lower is that it that's his name Ben Leo yeah Ben
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Leo so anyways and what's her name by the way let's give her a shout out go up go up a little bit go
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to her account just to see who she is let's give her a big shout out I went to her account yesterday
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Dr. Helen Webberley oh she's a doctor yeah of course she is by the way she married kids family what's her
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story is she trans she's married to Mike Webberley do they have kids
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but while we're we're searching a man or she a guy is she like well who knows it doesn't matter
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Pat it's just an adjective what I'm trying to no no no she we they I don't know was she born a man
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or a woman we don't know Pat and it doesn't matter she's a pioneer she's what is it what is it judging
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I'm just saying she's pretty big so you know what I'm saying what are those things on her chest
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well now those rest those are seven thousand dollars doesn't even matter what are the top
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Robbie that's right those are seven grand each in the field of hormone therapy oh no what guys
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her business is giving drugs to underage oh so she makes money oh she's a pioneer in hormone therapy
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and when I and transgender health care when I say this interesting so follow the money on Helen
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Rob go to more about Helen go more about Helen she's going to Helen I'll tell you that much
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first man landed on the moon and Helen Peters became screaming into the world what does that
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that's when she was born oh my god like be more dramatic she came out of a birthing canal
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because she doesn't want to call a lot of fights and a lot of shouting okay I wonder
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was she born a man or a woman she loved me and I loved her parents got divorced I was heartbroken
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you will never see your father again I can see his face through the car when did she fall
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and hit her head massive trauma my mother married the lodger when she hit her head my father and moved
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into the top floor spare room but then he moved out with my mom my new baby sister was born I held
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her I loved her you have to call mom daddy baby sister why would she he wasn't my dad I went to very
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tough comprehensive school I didn't fit in I was going okay my mother was born in a little nightmare
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I cannot believe somebody she's going down this year by year of her life well she just wants can
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we just see when she absolutely broke her brain at what point but by the way this is a tragedy
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she's describing completely broken home divorce abandonment and poor parenting yeah and so what
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does she do when she grows up to be a psychologist lives to tell everybody else that they're okay and that
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everything broken is not broken it's to be accepted rather than finding love stability and
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structure back in normalcy she she goes here so you know what hurt people make hurt people
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broken people break people great point Tom what happened Rob yes her own public statement she was
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assigned male at birth and later transition she identifies that what of course what I don't know
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what this means though according to Dr. Weber Lee in previous interviews somewhere along the line
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she confirms that she was born as a male that makes sense a man and then she transitioned to a woman
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and then married Mike are you serious this according to what chat GPT in the internet is reciting to me
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so so I was I was right it seems allegedly probably I told you because her shoulders she looked like
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she looks like a fullback linebacker like Chris Farley dear God where's my bong is that a guy
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I don't I can't I'm so I'm so confused right now yeah well listen we all are by the way by the way
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all all the jokes aside I don't know I'm not this this dude this guy lived a rough life as a kid
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growing up and he wasn't accepted and he was so confused that he went through it
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and this is a life now he lives you know when you when you hear some people they become who they
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become and then you learn about him you realize there's trauma is a real thing this morning I'm
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driving in the car with uh my guy and uh he was a former delta 18 delta guy I said so what do you
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think about PTSD and he kind of went through it because he thinks a real thing he says well he
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says there comes a time when you get out and he's seen a lot of stuff you know he's seen a lot of
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stuff poor Henry had nightmares for two weeks yeah so anyways so he's seen a lot of stuff and he's
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telling me about PTSD he says there comes a time in life where you realize everyone's moved on and
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they got their own set of prompts and you got to kind of figure out a way to fix it or else you're
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going to pass down that same fears and trauma to the next generation he's doing that we had
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a conversation about Adam's girl what's his what's her name uh Chelsea Handler right oh yeah
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and you you hear you hear Chelsea Handler's story and you hear the story of her upbringing
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you remember her story her brother her brother said hey can't wait to come back and see you and all
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this stuff and then falls down and dies yeah from a cliff and from that day on it broke the entire
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family mom and dad couldn't do anything together and it was a mess why do you think she probably
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doesn't want to get married and have kids are you kidding me the fear of losing people that you love
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can do a number on you so as much as we're having a hard time with this guy that we're you know
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you know what's whatever this guy is according to Chad you're born a guy and now a girl
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and he married a mic this guy's probably gone through a lot of trauma and he's thinking this
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is the right way of passing it now to the next people but good for Ben hey we wish Zach nothing
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but the best Ben keep racing Zach the way you're racing him he's going to be a uh he's going to be
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a stud in the future the way he's going right now can I say one thing yeah so the the challenges and
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Rob I sent you something the challenge is we can't even agree in America and even in western world
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what's true and what's not true this whole debate of well it's my truth it's my truth
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there's something called the truth here's the biggest challenge that we're going to do with
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less than 20 percent of Americans so let's extrapolate this could agree on basic facts 18
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basic stuff 80 completely disagree on the policy and facts combined so we're operating in completely
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different realities so this he she lady transgender doctor person she believes that she's right she
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firmly believes that men can have babies this is her straight up belief and you try to tell her
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otherwise she looks at you like you're the crazy person if you tell your baby two-year-old boy that
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he can have he can't have a kid she looks at you like you're the insane one so unless we can get back
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to just like a normal sensible conversation around what actual facts are not alternative facts not
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truthiness the truth and stop playing in this misinformation misinformation disinformation hellhole
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how are we ever going to agree again she's claiming that a two-year-old boy can someday have a baby
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and we're treating that like a normal discussion as if it's an argument worth debating you know what
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this this ridiculous lgbtq community they can't have kids so you know what they want your kids
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that's how they multiply they if that's a guy he's not having babies so you know what he wants your
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kids he wants pets they want everybody robs kids because they can't have children so how do you make
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the lgbtq community bigger yeah i want your kid you're gay you're gay you're all gay gay gay gay and
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then they'll take one or two examples of some dude that somehow became a woman and somehow got
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her uterus tied or whatever who's there you're gay and then had a baby it's like oh we can all have
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babies now no dude i hate to break it to you there's five dudes in this room right now none of us are
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having babies leave rob out of it and it's not debatable yet she wants to have that debate it's so
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ridiculous okay got out of your system thank you sir good anyway i'm doing uh i'm doing six to nine
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