Valuetainment - July 11, 2025


＂Mamdani Is A Symbol Of Radicalization＂- Eric Adams BLASTS Mamdani's Rising Star In NYC Mayoral Race


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

188.25046

Word Count

2,775

Sentence Count

199

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this episode, Mayor Bill de Blasio is joined by his challenger, former NYPD Captain and current candidate for mayor, Azoran Mamdani. The two discuss the differences between New York City and Miami and how they can become the new "New York City."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Now, talking about New York, did you think for a moment,
00:00:03.960 you've been a New York native your entire life,
00:00:06.240 captain, NYPD, you know, growing up there,
00:00:11.400 you've seen the trouble, you changed, you know,
00:00:13.220 as a young man, became a leader, run for mayor,
00:00:16.760 and then all of a sudden today you're going up against a guy,
00:00:20.020 the mayoral race that everybody in America is following.
00:00:23.380 Yes.
00:00:23.820 To go on against Azoran Mamdani, who on many ways,
00:00:29.180 you look at it, this is a person that's a communist,
00:00:31.340 this is a person that's openly said how he feels about capitalism,
00:00:33.900 how he said a lot about different things.
00:00:36.360 How did things get to a point that a candidate like this out of nowhere
00:00:39.640 is now being seen as possibly a guy that could win?
00:00:42.500 That's a great question because it's really not out of nowhere
00:00:46.500 those of us who were watching what was taking place on the stage
00:00:51.100 of not only New York City but America.
00:00:53.420 I told my team six months ago, this guy's going to win,
00:00:57.060 and I need to be in a general so that I can go head to head.
00:01:01.040 You heard this six months ago.
00:01:01.660 Six months ago, I sat down with my team, and I said to the reporters,
00:01:05.380 I said, this is going to be the most fascinating race
00:01:08.320 in the history of New York City.
00:01:09.760 Why is that?
00:01:10.240 What happened was he already had a ready-made army that we were ignoring.
00:01:16.600 And if you go back, I was talking about the radicalization of our children
00:01:21.120 on our college campuses to hate America,
00:01:25.260 what we were seeing in the street,
00:01:27.160 10,000 people marching in our street lifting up Hamas.
00:01:31.600 And I was saying our children are being radicalized.
00:01:34.380 And so all he had to do was pop his head up.
00:01:37.640 Once he did that, the army was already a symbol and said,
00:01:42.100 we want to follow someone.
00:01:43.740 And he has become a symbol of the radicalization of our young people
00:01:47.980 across this entire country and specifically in New York.
00:01:52.320 But why, though?
00:01:53.140 I guess the question I want to ask is why.
00:01:54.660 Because the last five years, go COVID, right?
00:01:58.540 If you want to pull up the chart, Rob,
00:01:59.920 that Brandon had on how much money's moved from different states
00:02:03.660 to different places, I mean, New York was known,
00:02:06.560 and many will say till today, as the greatest city in the world, right?
00:02:10.880 New York's been that city, the mecca, the financial capital of the world
00:02:13.880 used to be London, now it's you guys.
00:02:16.060 And Dana White comes and does an event here for UFC two or three years ago.
00:02:20.020 In the interview afterwards, they ask him, they say,
00:02:21.580 so what was UFC like Miami?
00:02:23.480 He said, we broke Madison Square Garden's record.
00:02:27.480 He said, this is what LA used to be.
00:02:29.080 It's the energy New York used to have.
00:02:31.100 I think that's the message that he gave,
00:02:32.760 where now a lot of people are looking at us saying,
00:02:34.900 could Miami become the new New York City?
00:02:37.620 You know, it's a lot of.
00:02:38.980 But then the chart that shows the biggest difference is this.
00:02:41.580 Rob, if you can pull up the numbers with the dollars,
00:02:43.300 I don't know if you have it or not.
00:02:44.740 It shows how much money moved here.
00:02:47.860 Over a trillion dollars of wealth moved out of California.
00:02:51.760 California got the money to go to Texas.
00:02:54.040 New York got the money right here.
00:02:55.680 If you look at this, New York got the money to flow to Florida.
00:02:58.000 This was one of the charts.
00:02:59.760 If you go to the other one, Rob, that shows the dollar amount,
00:03:02.360 you got a couple of them there.
00:03:05.220 Go to the one on the left, the one that shows right there.
00:03:08.420 If you look at this one, the dark purple is New York and California.
00:03:13.020 Right.
00:03:13.220 Over a trillion dollars lost.
00:03:16.120 Then if you look at states that gained plus trillion,
00:03:18.980 the dark green, you'll see Florida.
00:03:21.860 You'll see Texas is less than Florida.
00:03:23.480 But you look at Tennessee, Carolina,
00:03:24.840 and a bunch of other places gained the money.
00:03:27.100 What happened the last five years that caused the business owners
00:03:30.100 and the wealth to leave your state and, more importantly, your city?
00:03:33.760 Well, when you think about what happened after COVID,
00:03:37.400 after COVID, many people felt as though, during COVID,
00:03:41.800 that they were being confined.
00:03:43.000 They wanted to raise their children in an open atmosphere.
00:03:45.600 They wanted to go somewhere that was not that restricted.
00:03:47.780 And then once they explored, once they went to, traveled to Florida,
00:03:53.220 traveled to Connecticut and other areas,
00:03:55.880 they figured out that, you know what, life is a little bit more open.
00:03:59.300 Life is, you get a better bang for your dollar in some of these municipalities.
00:04:04.260 Like, the cost of housing here is far different from New York.
00:04:08.220 Now, that number is changing.
00:04:09.760 It is.
00:04:10.040 Because New Yorkers have arrived.
00:04:12.020 That's right.
00:04:12.200 And they've raised the amount.
00:04:13.420 Many people have said, listen, we don't want you guys down here anymore.
00:04:18.180 But the reality is that once people explored outside of the city
00:04:22.340 and understood that there's a good life outside the city,
00:04:26.620 and there's a different type of personality that you have in the city,
00:04:30.260 just as we lost that money, we gained a large number of young people,
00:04:36.100 particularly tech.
00:04:37.620 A lot of new tech companies opened.
00:04:39.760 We became the hotspot for graduates, the number one location for graduates.
00:04:44.460 New York City.
00:04:45.100 New York City.
00:04:45.780 It became an exciting place.
00:04:47.860 You know, our nightlife is booming.
00:04:49.800 And our economy is the strongest in history.
00:04:52.840 Broadway had the strongest 12 months in history.
00:04:56.260 And so the city is still thriving.
00:04:58.740 But when you have someone like the Democratic primary winner
00:05:02.240 saying that billionaires should not exist,
00:05:05.400 they don't understand the economics.
00:05:06.980 The person who drives a limousine should do well,
00:05:11.160 and a person in the back seat of the limousine should do well.
00:05:14.080 That's the ecosystem that's important for New York City.
00:05:17.240 Rob, can you pull up the clip of Mondani that he's referencing,
00:05:19.660 that he's being interviewed?
00:05:21.380 And the lady who had a couple great interviews with Trump asked,
00:05:24.500 do you believe billionaires should exist?
00:05:26.240 And his answer with a chuckle, he says,
00:05:29.240 I don't think there should be billionaires.
00:05:31.100 And then he says, but I'm willing to work with them.
00:05:33.940 I don't know how those two go together.
00:05:35.440 I don't think there should be billionaires.
00:05:36.860 But I'm willing to work with you to give up your money
00:05:38.580 and lose your billionaire status, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:05:42.040 There's a video of it in an interview.
00:05:43.420 We've had it before.
00:05:44.120 We've shown it.
00:05:45.040 I think that's the one right there.
00:05:46.160 And it's a clear misunderstanding of the economics.
00:05:48.180 When you look at our top one percenters
00:05:50.680 and how they ensure that we have teachers,
00:05:54.480 firefighters, police officers, roads paved,
00:05:57.620 that's the ecosystem that exists.
00:06:00.120 And if you don't understand that ecosystem,
00:06:02.400 your actions can drive out a major portion.
00:06:05.960 Oh, for sure.
00:06:06.700 I mean, you have in your city,
00:06:09.800 Mary, you have 123 billionaires.
00:06:11.600 Number two is 71 or so.
00:06:13.840 Right.
00:06:14.040 You got most of the billionaires living in the city.
00:06:16.220 And here's a question that was asked.
00:06:17.320 I thought it was a very good question.
00:06:18.460 Go for it, Rob.
00:06:19.480 You are a self-described democratic socialist.
00:06:22.600 Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist?
00:06:25.160 I don't think that we should have billionaires
00:06:29.000 because, frankly, it is so much money
00:06:31.420 in a moment of such inequality.
00:06:33.500 And ultimately, what we need more of
00:06:35.880 is equality across our city
00:06:37.540 and across our state and across our country.
00:06:39.280 And I look forward to work with everyone,
00:06:41.900 including billionaires,
00:06:42.780 to make a city that is fairer for all of them.
00:06:45.080 Now, when you're speaking to billionaires in your city,
00:06:47.700 at this point, they know you, right?
00:06:49.740 I mean, I saw Bill Ackman posted something.
00:06:52.640 Bill Ackman is a 10 billion auto guy.
00:06:54.160 He's a heavyweight, carries a big stake.
00:06:57.180 He has reputation.
00:06:58.540 He's gone against some of the biggest guys.
00:07:00.060 He's gone against Carl Icahn.
00:07:01.080 He's gone against a lot of people in his career.
00:07:03.080 And he's had to slay a lot of dragons
00:07:05.240 and he's been up and down, right?
00:07:07.640 But he's a tough guy.
00:07:08.680 And he puts a tweet, not this one, Rob.
00:07:10.440 There's another one about, you know,
00:07:12.640 him, you and Andrew Cuomo.
00:07:16.260 This was it.
00:07:17.340 In summary, in light of the inability
00:07:19.280 to add a new name to the ballot
00:07:20.860 and low probability of success to a writing campaign,
00:07:23.220 the only candidates with credible chance
00:07:24.840 to beat Mamdani or Cuomo and Adams.
00:07:27.440 I met yesterday with Adams
00:07:28.680 and with Cuomo to discuss the upcoming election
00:07:31.340 and I spent an hour or so with each of them.
00:07:34.260 In short, my takeaway is that Adams can win
00:07:36.660 the upcoming election
00:07:37.700 and that governors should step aside
00:07:39.540 to maximize Adams' probability of success.
00:07:42.660 I say this while having a high regard
00:07:44.460 to Andrew Cuomo and his contributions
00:07:45.860 to New York State,
00:07:47.100 but it was abundantly clear in his body language
00:07:49.120 he subdued energy
00:07:50.400 and his proposals to beat Mamdani
00:07:52.800 that he is not up for the fight.
00:07:55.960 When you speak to billionaires like this,
00:07:58.100 what are they telling you
00:07:59.000 and what is their concern about Mamdani?
00:08:00.700 Well, when you look at the policies
00:08:03.440 and you have to peel apart the policies
00:08:06.140 and you get a full understanding of the impact.
00:08:08.880 Let's take the Rikers Island, for example.
00:08:11.840 That is our city jail.
00:08:13.680 We have 7,400 of the most dangerous people in our city
00:08:17.320 because due to bail reform,
00:08:20.320 many of them did not have to go to jail.
00:08:23.400 They were able to come out on our streets.
00:08:25.160 He wants to open the jail and let them out.
00:08:27.760 They're going to go back to the communities
00:08:30.240 that they're preyed on.
00:08:31.600 They're going to impact low-income New Yorkers
00:08:33.980 and it's going to hurt them.
00:08:35.280 His plan to have government supermarkets.
00:08:38.520 We have many what we call bodegas.
00:08:40.320 Those are grocery stores.
00:08:41.700 We have many supermarkets.
00:08:43.420 If you put a plan in place like that,
00:08:45.780 you're going to devastate your middle-income New Yorkers,
00:08:50.060 your working-class New Yorkers.
00:08:51.600 I had a meeting with 250 supermarket owners
00:08:55.600 who stated that this is going to devastate us,
00:08:58.660 increase $30 or $40 minimum wage.
00:09:01.480 That is going to devastate the working-class community.
00:09:06.460 We have the largest number of small businesses
00:09:08.820 that are operating now under this administration.
00:09:11.420 The largest number of businesses in general,
00:09:14.300 we broke the record 11 times,
00:09:16.240 is because we know there's a marriage between a good wage
00:09:20.100 and allowing the profit margin of a business to survive.
00:09:25.240 But, okay, so when you say that,
00:09:26.980 he says, you know, seize the means of production, right?
00:09:30.520 The comments he's made about Jews,
00:09:33.720 and when you look at the population,
00:09:35.380 if I'm saying this correctly,
00:09:37.780 I believe the biggest Jewish population in America
00:09:40.100 is in New York City, right?
00:09:41.540 You guys have 960,000 Jews that live in New York City, right?
00:09:45.820 Around 12% of the population is Jews.
00:09:47.940 Used to be 2 million back in the days, in the 50s.
00:09:50.800 25% used to be Jews, but now 12%,
00:09:53.140 a lot of them have left the city.
00:09:54.780 So he calls them out.
00:09:56.240 You know, he's not very complimentary of them, okay?
00:09:59.020 He calls out billionaires.
00:10:00.140 You got the most billionaires.
00:10:01.660 He's saying he's going to do free buses for everybody.
00:10:03.740 That's going to cost $3 billion
00:10:04.760 that the billionaires are going to pay for
00:10:06.420 because they're going to raise the taxes on the billionaires.
00:10:08.060 And you've said before that mayor cannot raise taxes on billionaires.
00:10:10.760 Exactly.
00:10:11.240 That has to be done by the assembly,
00:10:12.840 which is his job that he currently does right now.
00:10:15.200 And everything he's saying,
00:10:16.560 you're hearing the stuff that he's saying,
00:10:18.000 you're saying to yourself,
00:10:19.260 none of this stuff makes sense.
00:10:20.860 How is he the leading candidate?
00:10:22.700 How does he have that?
00:10:23.580 Great question.
00:10:24.380 Because 9% of voters voted.
00:10:28.700 9%.
00:10:29.180 91% they have yet to speak.
00:10:32.780 And so the Democratic primary is really the most liberal arm,
00:10:39.780 the left arm of the voting population.
00:10:43.200 So when you have 9% of New Yorkers
00:10:46.800 who are speaking on behalf of 91% of New Yorkers,
00:10:50.420 now the job becomes people woke up and say,
00:10:53.020 whoa, whoa, what do we have here?
00:10:55.100 You know, sometimes people are lackadaisical,
00:10:58.980 apathetic, you know, not really going out and voting.
00:11:01.320 Now you're seeing an energy
00:11:03.220 that I've never witnessed before in politics.
00:11:05.740 How many people showed up to vote
00:11:06.880 the last time you had in 2009?
00:11:08.900 I think one.
00:11:09.920 How many showed up in 2021?
00:11:12.100 Less than, it was about close to a million.
00:11:15.360 Now we went a million plus.
00:11:17.380 I think it was around 900 or something thousand.
00:11:20.320 Okay, so I'm looking at this right now.
00:11:21.440 New York City mayoral race,
00:11:22.660 November 2nd of 2021, general election.
00:11:24.680 Out of 4,911,000 registered voters,
00:11:29.560 1.149 ballots were cast in.
00:11:31.840 Yes.
00:11:32.460 23.4%.
00:11:33.860 Other reports found that figured to be around 23%.
00:11:36.400 Let's just say a million, million, one showed up, right?
00:11:39.320 Okay.
00:11:40.160 And so far, only 9% have showed up to vote for Mamdani.
00:11:44.360 Yeah, a little over a million.
00:11:45.420 A little over, I think they got to a million five.
00:11:48.880 This was an increase in voter participation
00:11:51.360 because you had a lot of energy that people came out.
00:11:55.080 And where Andrew went wrong, he did not mobilize.
00:11:58.900 He didn't run a campaign.
00:12:00.600 He took a Mamdani for granted
00:12:03.160 instead of going out and running a hard campaign.
00:12:07.220 I say it all the time.
00:12:08.400 New Yorkers have five fingers.
00:12:09.820 They love to show you the middle one the most.
00:12:13.320 If you're not willing to go out and say you want the job,
00:12:16.580 he never wanted the job.
00:12:17.820 He thought this was a consolation prize.
00:12:21.080 And New Yorkers don't like that.
00:12:23.280 And so not running a hard campaign,
00:12:26.100 going head-to-head with him,
00:12:27.660 social media and all the twos,
00:12:29.820 you put yourself in a precarious position.
00:12:32.100 Rob, can you do me a favor, Rob?
00:12:33.180 Can you pull up Chad Gibet and ask the following question?
00:12:35.660 How much was voter participation
00:12:37.220 in 2025 New York City mayoral race?
00:12:40.020 Can you just type up how much was
00:12:41.380 voter participation in 2025 mayoral race?
00:12:45.580 This is the number that came up to me.
00:12:47.160 And again, I'm trying to see what's going on
00:12:48.880 because it's a little bit confusing on what's going on.
00:12:50.840 So this is the number that we see.
00:12:52.200 The primary was New York City's largest ever.
00:12:55.040 Nearly 1.15 million votes casted in 2021 general election.
00:13:01.240 First round, Mamdani, 462.
00:13:03.260 Cuomo, 384.
00:13:05.280 Brad Landon, 119.
00:13:07.300 Total ballots around a million.
00:13:08.500 Early voting surge with about 94,000 cast
00:13:12.000 in the first three days.
00:13:12.820 More than twice to 43,000 in 2021.
00:13:15.440 So this is 2x, more than 2x.
00:13:17.760 Overall, turnout was under 30% of registered Democrats,
00:13:21.000 consistent with the past New York primary.
00:13:22.660 So that's the numbers we're looking at right now.
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