Valuetainment - ＂Manipulative & Full Of Lies＂ - OpenAI's Sam Altman SLAMMED By Whistleblower Suchir Balaji's Parents

00:00:00.000 Are you currently in communication with Ilya?

00:00:03.000 He's not replied to my email.

00:00:05.860 We are trying to.

00:00:06.740 We would really want to get in touch with him.

00:00:09.060 Is he still with OpenAI?

00:00:10.460 No, he left.

00:00:10.900 Or he's also left?

00:00:11.560 He left.

00:00:12.020 But he doesn't want to talk to anybody?

00:00:14.460 I believe instead of blaming something,

00:00:17.060 like I would think he's busy with his own startup.

00:00:19.440 He just started SSI, his own startup.

00:00:22.160 He's probably very busy with it.

00:00:24.040 If he knows, he might be open to talk.

00:00:27.580 But one thing which I shared in Tucker's interview,

00:00:30.000 as well, December 15th or so,

00:00:32.540 when he went to an AI summit or some conference,

00:00:35.480 Ilya had security guards around him,

00:00:37.840 armed gunmen around him.

00:00:39.740 Why?

00:00:40.260 He's scared of his life.

00:00:41.580 Why is that?

00:00:44.040 Who's against him?

00:00:45.300 Who would kill him?

00:00:46.200 Why?

00:00:48.420 Well, you know, one could argue and say,

00:00:51.160 you know, in the AI space right now,

00:00:53.560 it's extremely competitive.

00:00:55.240 People are recruiting each other.

00:00:57.440 And it's like the Oklahoma land rush times 1,000.

00:01:00.640 Everybody wants to own the AI revolution that is taking place.

00:01:05.480 So, you know, and I'm sure it's not the safest situation to be,

00:01:09.360 especially when you have that kind of content and information.

00:01:11.540 So how much time did your son spend time with him,

00:01:14.540 the chief scientist?

00:01:15.200 I think it's one of his assignments,

00:01:18.880 maybe a few months, a year or so.

00:01:20.980 Suchir worked on different assignments.

00:01:23.020 First assignment was WebGPT research paper.

00:01:25.880 That might be working closely with Ilya.

00:01:29.020 And then he worked on feeding the training data.

00:01:31.920 That is the most frustrating experience for him.

00:01:35.860 And then he tuned up the ChatGPT

00:01:38.120 and made it work very efficiently and faster.

00:01:41.140 That's a significant contribution by Suchir.

00:01:44.880 Got it.

00:01:45.380 So if there's anybody that would have intel,

00:01:48.460 it would be him, Ilya.

00:01:49.860 Exactly.

00:01:50.300 He would have intel.

00:01:51.200 Everything he knows.

00:01:52.200 So he knows everything.

00:01:53.220 So he's either worried for his life,

00:01:55.800 doesn't want to get involved,

00:01:56.980 doesn't want to take attention away from his company,

00:01:58.880 and just kind of wants to be left alone.

00:02:00.740 It's one of those things.

00:02:02.420 Yeah, but Suchir knew the risk he was running into.

00:02:04.860 He writes in his journal.

00:02:06.180 I wish I could share it.

00:02:07.340 He writes in his journal that I'm a credible threat

00:02:10.220 because of New York Times.

00:02:12.140 And he writes...

00:02:12.980 About himself or about Ilya?

00:02:14.540 Yes.

00:02:14.700 Okay.

00:02:15.240 About himself.

00:02:16.120 I'm a credible threat.

00:02:17.320 Sorry, I changed the topic.

00:02:19.080 I'm a credible threat because of New York Times.

00:02:23.040 And did he write anything in his journal about Ilya?

00:02:26.480 Yes, he writes.

00:02:27.600 Is there anything you can share on what he says about Ilya?

00:02:30.120 He likes Ilya.

00:02:31.380 He's a good person.

00:02:32.000 So complimentary about Ilya.

00:02:33.420 Absolutely.

00:02:34.320 Complimenting Ilya.

00:02:35.040 In his journal that you read,

00:02:38.840 who were some of the names he was concerned about?

00:02:41.920 Where he said, I'm not sure if I...

00:02:43.340 Was there any patterns that you would say

00:02:44.720 the way he wrote it in his journal,

00:02:46.120 he doesn't trust this guy,

00:02:47.300 he doesn't trust this person?

00:02:48.560 He doesn't trust Sam Altman.

00:02:50.080 Why is that? 0.99

00:02:51.900 He is manipulative and full of lies. 0.91

00:02:55.500 For that, one of his friends was trying to convince Suchir, 0.97

00:02:58.800 look, they have to say that

00:03:00.360 because being a CEO and all the VCs are interested,

00:03:03.640 he has to blow up.

00:03:05.700 But Suchir said there's no integrity for him.

00:03:08.260 I'll give an example of that.

00:03:10.280 I think March 2024,

00:03:14.520 one of the OpenAI employees left OpenAI

00:03:17.480 and he wanted to whistleblow.

00:03:19.500 They put a condition for him that

00:03:21.340 he cannot speak negative about the company.

00:03:24.560 If he spoke, he would not get his stock options.

00:03:28.520 That guy, he refused to take...

00:03:31.120 He accepted the loss of stock options,

00:03:34.120 but he whistleblow what they did.

00:03:37.060 Then Sam Altman said,

00:03:39.360 I never knew anything about it.

00:03:40.840 I'm so sorry I'll change it,

00:03:42.240 but it has a signature in it.

00:03:43.860 How much time did they spend together,

00:03:49.000 your son and Sam Altman?

00:03:51.700 Were they interacting?

00:03:53.100 Was he hands-on?

00:03:54.540 Were they in the same room?

00:03:56.500 Was he in boardrooms?

00:03:57.780 Was he in...

00:03:58.860 He was an O-1 contributor.

00:04:01.360 He was a very significant contributor.

00:04:03.680 Even in the video of OpenAI employees,

00:04:06.240 my son comes there.

00:04:07.940 I mean, the introduction to OpenAI,

00:04:10.000 there's a video for the incoming employees.

00:04:11.980 My son is there.

00:04:12.800 So, introduction to working to OpenAI,

00:04:14.960 your son is in that video?

00:04:16.200 Yes.

00:04:16.700 Really?

00:04:17.280 They put your son in the intro of OpenAI?

00:04:19.960 Yes, he was there.

00:04:20.920 He was very shy to talk.

00:04:22.940 He didn't speak anything.

00:04:24.200 He's very shy as such.

00:04:27.860 He's there.

00:04:28.600 Very, very interesting.

00:04:29.980 Okay, so, but hour-wise,

00:04:32.000 how many hours do you think Sam Altman

00:04:34.660 and Suchir spent together?

00:04:36.760 Actual hours.

00:04:38.280 That I don't have in the journal.

00:04:40.400 Some of the employees should share.

00:04:42.380 He met once.

00:04:43.660 He met once.

00:04:44.600 But Sam Altman sent a note for us

00:04:46.640 after Suchir passed away.

00:04:48.500 He knew that Suchir made a significant contribution.

00:04:51.240 So, he sent a note to you?

00:04:52.420 Yes.

00:04:52.800 Did he call you?

00:04:53.940 He wanted to,

00:04:54.900 but we didn't want to talk to him.

00:04:56.740 So, he wanted to,

00:04:57.720 but you declined the call?

00:04:58.640 Yes.

00:04:59.140 Okay.

00:04:59.920 Respectfully.

00:05:00.320 So, he at least made the effort to reach out to you,

00:05:04.120 but you didn't?

00:05:05.260 He did not reach out to us.

00:05:06.520 We reached out HR to know about his beneficiary

00:05:09.400 and other information.

00:05:11.040 Then he said,

00:05:12.340 but they keep saying they'll support the family.

00:05:16.400 What have they done?

00:05:18.260 Now we have a request to them.

00:05:20.020 Let's keep it confidential.

00:05:21.520 We're going to go to them.

00:05:22.860 Let's see if they accommodate our request.

00:05:24.700 Is the request public or is it private?

00:05:28.520 It's private request.

00:05:29.660 It's about.

00:05:30.260 It's about your son with open.

00:05:34.200 Let's see if they support.

00:05:35.520 As such,

00:05:36.480 they got back saying that there's no open AI.

00:05:39.460 There's no email that originated from my son

00:05:41.940 about copyright.

00:05:43.440 Your son left open AI in very good terms.

00:05:46.640 He didn't do anything

00:05:47.580 until we saw in New York Times.

00:05:49.820 We didn't know about his whistleblowing activity.

00:05:52.080 That could not be true.

00:05:53.680 You know why?

00:05:55.120 Wait, wait.

00:05:56.800 So they're saying until the New York Times article,

00:06:00.140 they did not know about any of the whistleblowing activity.

00:06:03.040 They say that.

00:06:04.320 So what was their argument that they're saying?

00:06:07.740 We are looking for someone who's read his emails

00:06:10.220 or he's responded to emails.

00:06:12.880 So she knew it, right?

00:06:14.160 Why would he go to New York Times in July end itself?

00:06:18.420 There's something, right?

00:06:19.440 We need to discover.

00:06:20.380 And what we know is emails could have been deleted.

00:06:24.660 Evidences could have been wiped out.

00:06:26.960 There are a few other employees,

00:06:28.580 formal employees of open AI who have a lawsuit against them.

00:06:32.080 They say their emails were deleted.

00:06:34.160 I don't want to make any conspiracy theory,

00:06:37.140 but we would not rule out any of those.

00:06:39.420 That's exactly why we are saying

00:06:41.140 FBI should get involved and investigate.

00:06:43.460 Who should be involved?

00:06:44.520 FBI.

00:06:45.260 FBI should get involved.

00:06:46.600 Have you had any luck?

00:06:47.960 Is FBI, since the Tucker interview,

00:06:51.040 did you,

00:06:51.440 because I'm assuming when you do the Tucker interview afterwards,

00:06:53.580 that goes out there,

00:06:54.280 a lot of weird people are going to reach out to you.

00:06:55.980 Some people that are currently at open AI,

00:06:58.280 previous employees,

00:06:59.240 did anybody reach out to you after Tucker's interview?

00:07:01.720 No.

00:07:02.080 They're all scared for their life.

00:07:03.560 Are you serious?

00:07:04.060 So no one,

00:07:04.980 no one even from the agency reached out to you?

00:07:07.220 No.

00:07:08.480 So January 15th,

00:07:10.360 when was the interview done with Tucker?

00:07:12.340 Is it on January 15th?

00:07:13.860 Yes.

00:07:14.160 So that's five days before inauguration,

00:07:18.040 while the president gets in.

00:07:19.560 I know.

00:07:20.280 So both Sam Altman and Ilan

00:07:26.160 are involved with a relationship with the president.

00:07:28.700 The president has a good relationship with both of them.

00:07:30.840 Yeah.

00:07:33.220 It's a bit of a technical situation here

00:07:36.320 on who would want to really investigate

00:07:38.980 and get to the bottom of this.

00:07:40.580 But you're saying no one has yet reached out.

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Valuetainment - March 26, 2025

＂Manipulative & Full Of Lies＂ - OpenAI's Sam Altman SLAMMED By Whistleblower Suchir Balaji's Parents

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