Valuetainment - June 11, 2025


"Minority Report 2.0" - Will Trump's Palantir Partnership Be Used To SPY On Americans?


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

183.78322

Word Count

2,939

Sentence Count

324

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Palantir is a technology company that helps law enforcement agencies collect and analyze vast amounts of data for agencies like Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the IRS. But is it time to deploy Palantir tech to Los Angeles to catch and release illegal immigrants?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All of a sudden, while this is going on, you know, a lot of people are not comfortable with Palantir.
00:00:03.680 So a lot of people are wondering, they're saying, OK, let's see what's going to happen here.
00:00:07.780 Laura Loomer comes out and tweets about Palantir and she says, maybe this is time for Palantir to be used.
00:00:14.040 Right. I think time to deploy Palantir tech to L.A. to deal with the illegals.
00:00:18.580 You know, you'd love to see it. You're lying if you wouldn't.
00:00:22.440 Now, what is Palantir? Why don't we go there? What is Palantir?
00:00:27.000 For some of you that don't know, the history of Palantir is very, very spooky is what it is.
00:00:34.320 OK. President Trump executive order to enable federal agent agency data exchange relies on Palantir technology,
00:00:40.500 co-founded by billionaire investor, Republican mega donor Peter Thiel with New York Times reporting.
00:00:45.160 The Trump administration aims to eliminate information silos and streamline data collection across agencies
00:00:52.160 to increase government efficiencies and save hard-earned taxpayer dollar.
00:00:58.340 Palantir received $130 million from the government this year, including a $795 million Department of Defense contract last week.
00:01:05.920 Palantir technology gathers and analyzes vast data for agencies like Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE, and the IRS.
00:01:14.060 As the New York Times noted, the firm's technology can gather and analyze enormous volumes of data for numerous government agencies.
00:01:21.060 Tech billionaire Elon Musk and the government of Doge chose Palantir for this project.
00:01:27.080 Tom, tell me what you know about Palantir and what part of it excites you, if any of it does, and what part of it concerns you.
00:01:35.580 OK. Palantir is a tool.
00:01:37.760 Palantir is not a database.
00:01:39.040 It is a tool.
00:01:40.040 What does the tool do?
00:01:41.020 The tool, like Excel, allows you to take a whole bunch of data and to dive into that data and figure out things.
00:01:47.560 So that's what Palantir does.
00:01:49.480 Why are people worried about it?
00:01:51.620 Because it is an incredibly fast, adept, and powerful tool.
00:01:56.620 The Social Security Administration, Pat, already has petabytes of information on America.
00:02:02.540 When we're born, what we're doing now.
00:02:04.540 They know every job you've had.
00:02:06.300 Because every time you have a job and you have FICA deducted from your paycheck, Vinny, goes to Social Security.
00:02:10.600 They know every job you've had.
00:02:12.240 The IRS, they know they've got all the W-2s.
00:02:15.660 They've got 1099s.
00:02:16.820 They know who you've contracted for, who you've had jobs.
00:02:19.860 Well, when you take the IRS database and then you take the Social Security database, you have an amazing fingerprint on the American citizen.
00:02:28.640 Now, fold into that like an FBI database.
00:02:33.400 Now you know who's naughty, who's not, and all the places they've been.
00:02:36.980 And you can do predictive modeling.
00:02:39.020 What people worry about, Pat, is minority report.
00:02:42.680 That's what I do.
00:02:42.960 Where you sit and you now have surveillance on people because of predictive modeling on what you might do in the future.
00:02:50.220 That was the whole premise of that.
00:02:51.740 And so Palantir has these amazing tools.
00:02:54.940 One is called Foundry and there's Gotham that could take these giant stacks of data and they could do assimilation and modeling very, very fast.
00:03:04.540 And what Laura Loomer is saying, why don't we take Palantir and take everything that the police know about who's been arrested, everything that ICE knows about who's been at the border, get it?
00:03:15.460 So, one, you have an economic model on the future that you could do with Social Security and the IRS on peaceful law-abiding citizens paying their taxes, what they do, where they go, which most people won't like.
00:03:26.020 Now, what if you do that with all the law enforcement data?
00:03:28.540 That's what Laura Loomer is talking about.
00:03:30.080 Hey, get the LAPD, get the sheriff's department, get the highway patrol, who's been pulled over and who registered and who is catch and release at the border and let's assimilate all that and then let's look in there and go, wait a minute, here's my top ten.
00:03:43.700 And Palantir could do that very, very, very quickly.
00:03:47.080 The privacy people are like, well, wait a minute now.
00:03:50.200 Soon as you do that, you end up toward minority report.
00:03:53.140 So, Palantir is a tool and that's kind of the way, and I've tried to summarize that as quick as I could, Pat, about what it does and how it can be used.
00:04:00.080 Yeah.
00:04:01.260 There's a video I sent to Rob in 2023, Pat, where the CEO and co-founder, Alex Karp, is saying that their primary goal is to set a global standard for the world behavior.
00:04:13.240 Those are scary words, Tom, to hear from Tom.
00:04:15.980 Do you know the history behind it of why they started Palantir?
00:04:19.040 Like, do you know when it happened?
00:04:20.300 Well, they were funded through, like, quite literally through the CIA with the QTEL, right?
00:04:25.320 In QTEL, which was CIA's arm that invests in different technologies.
00:04:29.860 CIA's venture capital arm, yeah.
00:04:30.780 So, originally, when in 2001, 9-11 happened, the government looked horrible because they were not able to, you know, see how they got caught.
00:04:39.880 CIA, NSA, all these guys looked very bad.
00:04:42.920 So, they tried to build a Palantir, but they were shut down by the government.
00:04:47.020 In 2003-ish, they decided to build Palantir.
00:04:53.440 If you can type up when Palantir got started, Rob, the exact year Palantir got started.
00:04:57.080 It should be, like, 2003-ish.
00:04:59.920 They decided to build this.
00:05:02.300 There you go.
00:05:02.700 Yeah, okay.
00:05:03.020 May 6, 2003, the founders and names that we just talked about, Peter Thiel was one of the investors.
00:05:09.440 I think their first few clients were CIA, NSA, a few other companies, and that led to trying to prevent the next 9-11.
00:05:18.600 That's what they're saying.
00:05:19.880 They're trying to prevent the next 9-11 by being able to gather intel.
00:05:23.880 That part makes some people extremely uncomfortable, but the president is somewhat supportive of what's going on here.
00:05:31.540 And, obviously, you know, Musk, for those, chose these guys.
00:05:34.760 Him and Thiel go back many, many years.
00:05:36.400 Rob, can you play that clip that Vinny had?
00:05:38.900 I've not seen that one.
00:05:39.860 And then the other one that you have yourself as well.
00:05:41.400 Go for it.
00:05:42.440 We built PG, which single-handedly stopped the rise of the far right in Europe.
00:05:48.820 We built Foundry, which was used to distribute the COVID vaccine and saved millions of lives globally.
00:05:56.380 We built what we call multi-constellation and what's often called the digital kill chain.
00:06:02.040 And they're category-defining products.
00:06:05.300 So, when you deliver these products to the market, just honestly, people say this isn't going to exist.
00:06:09.700 This isn't valuable.
00:06:10.800 But then it changes the market.
00:06:12.400 And then the market is the Palantir market.
00:06:15.100 Now, that doesn't mean everyone in the world is going to buy our product.
00:06:17.280 But it means most of the sensible people in the world are going to buy from the category we defined.
00:06:22.440 Now, what's the other one?
00:06:23.400 This is Alex Karp.
00:06:23.940 That's Alex Karp saying that basically his company's software single-handedly stopped the far right in Europe.
00:06:30.260 And now they're building the AI-powered to be working for our government.
00:06:34.100 What's this, Rob?
00:06:34.880 This is Alex Karp at the World Economic Forum in 2023 talking about the primary goal of Palantir.
00:06:41.500 Go for it.
00:06:41.900 Then we were asked if we were willing to supply our product philanthropically, basically, for free.
00:06:48.180 And I was very in favor of this because our primary mission is, in fact, to set a global standard for the world for behavior.
00:06:54.940 To set a global standard for behavior?
00:06:58.140 That means they want to control everything.
00:07:00.660 And why is it that the guys that want to control everything, the majority of them look like that guy?
00:07:04.660 Look at that guy.
00:07:05.180 Look at that guy.
00:07:05.700 Look at that guy.
00:07:06.120 Is that Jon Stewart?
00:07:07.260 This is Jon Stewart talking about Alex Karp.
00:07:09.460 The most effective way for social change is humiliate your enemy and make them poorer.
00:07:15.700 I don't think in win-lose.
00:07:17.100 I think in domination.
00:07:18.740 I love the idea of getting a drone and having light fentanyl-laced urine spraying on analysts who tried to screw us.
00:07:26.260 What the...
00:07:26.900 Well, let's not judge a book by its insides.
00:07:34.680 That's hilarious.
00:07:42.220 He's telling you what he wants to do.
00:07:44.460 He's a $12 billion guy.
00:07:46.080 He's a...
00:07:46.640 $12 billion?
00:07:47.620 Yeah, he's worth $12 billion.
00:07:48.780 He's a $12 billion guy.
00:07:49.980 Very smart.
00:07:50.940 Very successful.
00:07:51.860 Saves a lot on haircuts.
00:07:52.920 A lot of people, a lot of people are siding with him and supporting this next move.
00:07:59.340 So here's the concern, okay, of the next phase we're about to go through.
00:08:03.620 Oh, my God.
00:08:04.840 This next phase we're about to go through.
00:08:06.480 Can you do me a favor?
00:08:07.160 Let's play a game.
00:08:08.380 Let's play a game.
00:08:10.220 Rob, can you go back to 20 years ago?
00:08:12.640 Elon Musk's net worth 20 years ago versus today.
00:08:15.940 Huh.
00:08:16.940 Elon Musk's net worth 20 years ago.
00:08:18.460 2005.
00:08:19.120 Yeah, what's his net worth?
00:08:20.000 2005 was what?
00:08:21.340 Did he even have $1 billion then?
00:08:23.140 No, no, no, for sure.
00:08:24.500 He's been wealthy for a long time.
00:08:27.720 What was Elon Musk worth in 2005?
00:08:30.100 Okay.
00:08:30.860 What was Elon Musk worth?
00:08:32.780 What was...
00:08:34.340 So somewhere in the range of $175 million when he sold PayPal to eBay in October of 2002.
00:08:41.260 So let's just say he's worth a half a billion.
00:08:42.960 And first listed 2012.
00:08:44.520 2012, he was worth $2 billion.
00:08:46.640 2012.
00:08:47.600 So what was he worth in 2005?
00:08:51.340 Let's ask Grok.
00:08:52.260 A half?
00:08:53.240 A half a billion.
00:08:54.000 Something like that?
00:08:54.580 Okay, stay with me.
00:08:55.440 If those numbers are right.
00:08:56.920 He was worth $500 million just 2005, 20 years ago.
00:09:03.180 Okay.
00:09:04.080 Alex Karp in 2005 was not even a millionaire.
00:09:09.500 Just so you know that.
00:09:10.460 He was not even into millions.
00:09:12.160 Let alone billions in 2005.
00:09:14.240 Alex Karp.
00:09:14.880 Okay.
00:09:15.800 So in 2005, he was barely worth a few hundred thousand dollars, give or take.
00:09:21.200 Okay.
00:09:21.840 What's Musk worth today?
00:09:23.220 We know Alex is worth $12 billion.
00:09:25.540 What's Musk worth today?
00:09:26.680 Somewhere around $400 billion-ish.
00:09:29.380 Can you pull it up, Rob, to see what he's worth today?
00:09:31.380 Let's just kind of see this.
00:09:32.140 What was $300 last week?
00:09:33.220 So...
00:09:33.820 $401 billion.
00:09:35.880 $401 billion.
00:09:36.780 That was a billion dollars off.
00:09:37.960 That's my bad.
00:09:38.900 So $400...
00:09:39.660 Kanye would freak out.
00:09:40.680 ...billion.
00:09:41.060 Okay.
00:09:41.880 Let's do the math.
00:09:43.180 $400 billion divided by $500 million is his net worth has 800xed in the last 20 years.
00:09:53.280 Let me say that one more time.
00:09:54.220 800xed last 20 years.
00:09:56.920 If we say Alex Karp is worth $12 billion today and he was worth a million just 20 years ago,
00:10:05.220 he's $12,000xed his net worth in the last 20 years.
00:10:11.500 What do you think Elon's net worth is going to be in 20 years?
00:10:14.840 In 20 years?
00:10:15.780 20 years.
00:10:16.180 What do you think?
00:10:16.880 Remember, they still haven't done the robots.
00:10:19.060 He's going to come in.
00:10:19.680 They're going to do 30 million robots the next decade or two.
00:10:22.620 Trillion and a half.
00:10:23.080 And the robots are going to be...
00:10:23.880 How much?
00:10:24.260 Trillion and a half.
00:10:24.820 What are you talking?
00:10:25.680 In 20 years?
00:10:26.160 It's going to be a trillion and a half in two years.
00:10:28.520 Two years?
00:10:29.340 I think he's going to be a trillion and a half in 24 to 36 months.
00:10:32.940 What do you think he's going to be worth in 20 years?
00:10:34.920 I want you to actually guess, Tom.
00:10:37.780 In 20 years.
00:10:38.780 I'm going to give my number here in a minute.
00:10:40.340 Well, a T is a big number, but...
00:10:42.440 Nope.
00:10:42.940 Child support, Tom.
00:10:44.020 No, no.
00:10:44.340 Hang on.
00:10:46.200 I think it's 10 to 15 T.
00:10:48.320 You think so?
00:10:48.880 What?
00:10:49.380 What do you think he's going to be worth in 20 years?
00:10:51.520 Adam.
00:10:53.900 I don't say this with optimism.
00:10:57.440 I hope it's not well over a trillion.
00:10:59.400 I don't think anybody needs a trillion dollars.
00:11:02.140 He's going to be worth somewhere between 25 to 50 trillion.
00:11:04.820 Okay.
00:11:05.320 That's insane.
00:11:06.580 Guys, let me just...
00:11:07.680 The common sense part of me says we need to stop that.
00:11:10.300 Oh, well, what's that saying?
00:11:10.840 Listen.
00:11:11.400 We're going to be worth more...
00:11:12.860 Yes, by 2045.
00:11:14.300 ...than the G20 countries?
00:11:16.120 Guys, hear me out.
00:11:16.520 One person?
00:11:17.140 Can I make my point to you?
00:11:17.800 This is no good.
00:11:18.760 So, he's going to be worth 25 to 50 trillion dollars.
00:11:23.000 2045.
00:11:23.740 It's my prediction.
00:11:24.520 I could be wrong.
00:11:24.980 You could do that.
00:11:25.260 Listen, I make a lot of predictions, and I'm about 60, 70 percent there.
00:11:28.660 I hope you're wrong, sir.
00:11:29.780 Yeah, bless you with this one.
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