Valuetainment - July 19, 2025


＂More Destructive Than Jim Crow＂ - Charleston White BLAMES Hip Hop For Black America’s COLLAPSE

Topics
unproductive black male
Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Charleston White Fred Sanford Uncle Ian Bill Cosby Jim Crow Superfly Beatles
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Episode Stats


Length

7 minutes

Words per minute

174.16

Word count

1,373

Sentence count

149

Harmful content

Misogyny

15

sentences flagged

Toxicity

15

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Hate speech

17

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with my younger brother to talk about his life growing up in a gangster household and how he became the man he is today. We talk about how he was introduced to the world of crime, gang culture, and rap.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 At 14 years old, I read that you were hung out with some people
00:00:05.240 who there was attempt on murder, convicted.
00:00:07.440 What happened?
00:00:08.020 So my uncle had just died, who was a positive influence in our life.
00:00:13.900 He died to gun violence.
00:00:16.000 My mother had just became pregnant, and my little sister was born.
00:00:19.680 My brother was already in and out of the juvenile facilities.
00:00:23.020 And my mother was putting my brother in adolescence homes,
00:00:25.580 so my mama wasn't waiting for him to be arrested.
00:00:27.600 When she started seeing behavior problems, she would put him in an adolescent home.
00:00:31.020 That made him even more rebellious.
00:00:33.040 And he big.
00:00:33.900 He tall and big.
00:00:34.640 He got a grown man body.
00:00:36.040 So mama got to work. 1.00
00:00:38.320 And we got the best life most kids could have in a middle-class neighborhood.
00:00:41.980 So I'm the little brother sitting back watching who everybody's overlooking
00:00:46.920 because of my injuries.
00:00:48.340 They don't know I'm a mother.
00:00:49.660 They don't know I'm a dynamite.
00:00:51.840 Only my uncles know who let me hang out with them.
00:00:54.140 So, man, once I got to become a kid, I was 13 years old.
00:01:01.260 I've been in the hospital, man, from 5 to 13.
00:01:03.660 So once I started playing with kids, I was a natural leader.
00:01:06.840 And I attracted good and bad children.
00:01:14.580 My real friends didn't get in trouble.
00:01:17.300 The ones I went to hang with didn't live in our neighborhood.
00:01:20.140 They lived in the projects and apartments.
00:01:22.060 So, man, when I got introduced to what I call, I'm the seed of America's gangster rap culture.
00:01:32.620 A little kid who'd been watching Bill Cosby, Red Foxx, Fred Sanford.
00:01:37.440 When my uncles get out of prison, I watched all the black exploitation films. 0.98
00:01:42.680 From Dolomite, Superfly, the penitentiary.
00:01:47.000 So I learned criminal activity from watching these movies, watching my uncles.
00:01:51.400 And once I finally got to go out into the community, imagery have already been propagated to me.
00:01:58.200 Kid watching television, kid watching television.
00:01:59.960 So, man, so I'm mimicking what I'm seeing.
00:02:02.900 So I've never seen a man come out of my mother's bedroom.
00:02:07.800 I've also never seen a man get up and go to work.
00:02:10.520 You've never seen a man come out of your mama's bedroom? 0.82
00:02:12.720 You've never seen a man go to work? 0.98
00:02:14.660 Yeah, I didn't know men work.
00:02:17.000 I thought men were like my Uncle Curtis and my Uncle Wayne.
00:02:21.080 You know, they pimp on a woman or they lay around all day or earn their clothes in the middle of the day,
00:02:25.720 wake up late with a joint in their mouth, fly clean, and go nowhere. 0.99
00:02:30.900 You know, the unproductive black male of the 80s. 0.99
00:02:35.240 So that's what I saw.
00:02:36.660 So I watched all the males in my family go to prison for my mom's cousins, my uncles, grandmothers, brothers.
00:02:44.520 And I never heard anybody say anything bad about prison.
00:02:48.280 So think about this.
00:02:49.600 I never hear anybody say anything bad about prison.
00:02:51.660 They come home and make it sound bravado.
00:02:54.420 Like you're missing out on something.
00:02:56.240 I says, write the passage.
00:02:57.840 Not only that, you're seeing it on television.
00:03:00.340 So it's being reinforced either way.
00:03:02.740 So we had a whole black exploitation era. 0.73
00:03:06.900 So by the time, so I'm an injured kid who gets to watch all the television in the world in the hospital, at home.
00:03:12.460 We had a VCR.
00:03:12.940 Yeah, so by the time I get to be a normal kid that can go outside and play, it's a new culture, gang culture.
00:03:20.460 And it's trending.
00:03:23.240 I remember we seen colors.
00:03:24.500 Our first summer, we went and got bandanas and put them in our pocket.
00:03:26.640 I went and got me a pocket knife.
00:03:28.380 I don't know nothing about this but what I saw on television. 0.87
00:03:31.340 I didn't know how to have sex from listening to rap music.
00:03:35.340 And this is in the fifth and sixth grade.
00:03:37.680 There was a song by two live crew called, hey, we want something.
00:03:42.200 Yeah, so imagine stopping it, rewinding it.
00:03:45.180 Stopping it so you can get every lyric.
00:03:48.100 So our culture taught us, and I say this often, and people really overlook it.
00:03:56.720 It's a rape culture. 1.00
00:03:58.880 Rape culture? 1.00
00:03:59.640 Yeah, hip hop is a rape culture. 1.00
00:04:01.260 Tell me about it. 0.94
00:04:02.500 I put a molly in her drink, and she ain't even know it. 1.00
00:04:05.340 Me and my homies like to play this game.
00:04:10.640 Some call it Amtrak, but some call it the train.
00:04:14.160 We all would line up in a single file line and take our turns waxing girls behind. 0.98
00:04:21.100 Every time it get to me, I was out of luck because I stick my end and it would get stuck.
00:04:28.480 The girl would say stop.
00:04:30.320 I say I'm not.
00:04:32.860 The girl would say stop.
00:04:34.600 I say I'm not.
00:04:36.740 But we dance to it.
00:04:38.760 There's another song.
00:04:40.460 I take her back to the trap.
00:04:42.560 I gave her a perk, and she ain't even know it.
00:04:46.700 Then she dropped her panties. 0.86
00:04:48.640 So when we watch the frat parties, what was that, Porky's Revenge?
00:04:53.020 Hey, let's spike the punch. 0.99
00:04:54.260 The girls don't know the spike's sponge. 1.00
00:04:55.640 When we see a bunch of girls, hey, baby, let me get you a drink. 1.00
00:04:59.460 Come over, let's have some drink.
00:05:00.840 Drink to do what? 0.99
00:05:01.720 And have sex. 0.99
00:05:02.720 That's coercion. 0.99
00:05:03.760 She has to have a sober mind.
00:05:05.740 So that's our culture.
00:05:07.640 How did it happen?
00:05:08.380 Oh, Hollywood, entertainment.
00:05:12.220 They romanticized.
00:05:14.900 No, they romanticized it.
00:05:16.000 When you see the videos of back in the days, African-American families, suits, the way they 1.00
00:05:20.200 dressed, clean, solid, strong.
00:05:23.360 What got into that?
00:05:24.760 You're saying purely it's hip-hop and movies?
00:05:26.260 A group of teenagers that became a phenomenon like the Beatles, N.W.A.
00:05:33.780 Not only that, you got this group that know things about crack that the rest of America don't know.
00:05:42.840 They the first crack babies. 1.00
00:05:45.820 They the ones told us in songs, mothers smoke crack and your friends can have sex with them. 1.00
00:05:49.980 Boys in the hood is always hard. 0.99
00:05:52.460 We didn't know about a strawberry.
00:05:54.140 Well, there's a strawberry.
00:05:54.940 A woman who sell her body for crack. 1.00
00:05:57.400 You know how many of our aunties that end up doing that? 1.00
00:06:00.640 You know how many guys that was in middle school that sold dope and his best friend mom was on dope and he ended up effing his best friend mom?
00:06:08.560 And now they hate each other to this day.
00:06:10.820 So it wasn't just hip-hop.
00:06:15.680 It was the lyrical content that children was being able to have access to.
00:06:20.540 This is before the parental advisory stickers.
00:06:22.620 Not only that, you got this music, which if you want to check the temperature of your youth mentality, listen to the music.
00:06:33.420 So now you got this new chemical that was made in a laboratory. 0.96
00:06:41.940 Black people didn't know how to cook crack. 1.00
00:06:43.780 That's a chemist method. 0.99
00:06:46.340 Somebody had to teach them.
00:06:47.680 By the way, government taught somebody how to do this.
00:06:50.120 We watched the movie Snowfall.
00:06:51.280 So when they came out of California to come spread crack throughout America, who did they bring? 0.86
00:06:56.120 The gangs.
00:06:57.500 Throughout the South, these little small country towns who people are fascinated by California from what we've seen on television.
00:07:04.740 And we emulated a culture that was more destructive than the Ku Klux Klan and the Jim Crow system. 0.79
00:07:11.980 Wow.
00:07:12.300 And you were saying it was intentional.
00:07:16.020 Nobody thought it would become this.
00:07:18.860 It was dismissed.
00:07:19.500 There's a bunch of kids from the ghetto rapping.
00:07:21.700 It was dismissed.
00:07:23.200 Say, what's up, everybody?
00:07:24.380 This is your boy Charleston White, a.k.a. America's Favorite Uncle.
00:07:27.880 I had just signed up to Minette.
00:07:29.440 So if you want to message me, you want to cuss me out, you want to fuss at me, even if you want some counseling, call me.
00:07:34.440 I minister healing by well word.
00:07:35.960 You can message me directly on Minette.
00:07:37.740 I promise, man, I'm going to respond directly.
00:07:39.580 I ignore them DMs on Instagram.
00:07:40.920 They just took my Facebook.
00:07:42.660 I don't respond on YouTube.
00:07:44.040 I will respond on Minette.
00:07:45.320 I promise.
00:07:45.840 Just call me and see.
00:07:46.660 Text me.
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