Valuetainment - June 06, 2026


“More Of A Patriot Than Trump” - Mehdi Hasan’s OUTRAGEOUS Ilhan Omar Defense


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00:00:27.820 your thoughts on you know a lot of people in america you got things that's happened in texas
00:00:33.940 with that one uh city what is it called epic city or something like that in plano texas
00:00:38.960 yeah what do you say to some conservatives that are worried about sharia law making it into america
00:00:44.500 i would say please do not worry you're being lied to you're being gaslit you're being distracted
00:00:48.900 uh this is a fake moral panic that's been blown up it'll never happen or because sharia law is not
00:00:54.140 that bad because it's not two different things one number one sharia law is not what you think
00:00:58.940 it is but that we can part that for discussion for a moment i'll come to that it's not happening
00:01:02.840 there's nobody i know who's pushing sharia law in this country it's completely fake and it's
00:01:06.080 being pushed in ridiculous places not just texas oklahoma indiana did you see the lieutenant
00:01:10.700 governor of indiana said recently we need to hate islam it's a demonic religion right i'm
00:01:15.140 gonna fight radical islam and sharia how many do you know what the population of muslim population
00:01:18.340 of indiana is less than one percent like this is ridiculous fear-mongering it has 3x us i think in
00:01:24.680 the last 26 years if i'm not mistaken muscle population but it's still not indiana but it's
00:01:28.700 even nationwide what is it one to two percent i want to say four and a half million it's one
00:01:32.680 which is which is yeah you're right just one or two but by the way it's i mean you're 3x and in
00:01:37.240 26 years okay i like you're not doing a good job you're growing we're growing elon musk wants people
00:01:41.320 have more kids but my point being is it's not going to happen but also a few things number one
00:01:46.600 please let's not talk in this demonizing way
00:01:48.960 about Muslim communities being a threat to you because it has
00:01:50.780 real world consequences. We just saw in
00:01:52.800 San Diego, a mosque was attacked by two
00:01:54.820 Nazi teenagers who shot and killed
00:01:56.900 three people, including the security guard
00:01:58.860 who had eight kids. Police say he was a hero
00:02:00.980 saved 100 kids in that mosque
00:02:02.800 in the school, right? Murdered by
00:02:04.820 two guys. Do you read their manifesto? I don't
00:02:06.840 like reading these shooters' manifestos. I did them. I read the whole thing.
00:02:08.780 Some of the lines in there are crazy. They say, you know
00:02:10.840 what they say? Towards everybody. Towards everybody. Jews,
00:02:12.880 women, Muslims, gay.
00:02:14.700 But the line about Muslims is really scary because they say,
00:02:18.980 we don't hate Muslims.
00:02:20.620 We hate Islam.
00:02:21.720 We hate the invasion of our country.
00:02:23.720 That is rhetoric that you hear on right-wing media.
00:02:26.060 That is rhetoric that you hear in the House of Representatives.
00:02:28.320 That is what you hear from Randy Fine.
00:02:29.660 That is what you hear from Republicans.
00:02:31.060 That is what you hear in America.
00:02:32.520 So that is not just some Nazi shooter.
00:02:34.060 That is mainstream rhetoric that has been mainstreamed on the right,
00:02:36.840 and it has real-world consequences.
00:02:38.860 If you say, and I've seen some of your shows,
00:02:42.120 You've talked about Muslims praying in Times Square, that being some kind of threat.
00:02:45.780 I would say just have a sense of what the real world consequences of our rhetoric can be.
00:02:51.160 Words have consequences.
00:02:52.820 Crazy people out there can pick up weapons and think Muslims are coming to take over my country.
00:02:56.340 You know, I would tell you, I've interviewed a lot of weird people on my podcast, a lot.
00:03:01.360 You tell them I'll have them on.
00:03:02.360 I don't have a problem talking to them.
00:03:03.400 I had a great conversation with Wes Moore, what was it, five weeks ago.
00:03:08.120 I've had Mopsers on, Sammy DeBowl.
00:03:10.160 I've had Kobe on.
00:03:10.940 I've had, you know, many different people on.
00:03:13.360 You know what's the only one that brought so many death threats?
00:03:16.880 B.B. was the only one.
00:03:18.400 I've had a lot of people on, multiple presidents.
00:03:21.200 We did a podcast with B.B.
00:03:23.360 I've never told this story publicly, so they'll know.
00:03:26.600 It was on my birthday, and I come out of the podcast.
00:03:31.940 My security says, there's a guy in the front lobby that just got caught with cops with grenades.
00:03:38.660 I said, this is a terrible joke.
00:03:40.280 Because everybody always tried to prank me for my birthday, and I always catch people.
00:03:43.300 Like, they're trying to surprise me.
00:03:44.200 I'm like, listen, this is not the right way to do it.
00:03:46.260 He says, I'm not laughing.
00:03:47.240 This is an 18 Delta guy.
00:03:49.200 And I said, really?
00:03:50.220 He says, yeah, look at the front gate.
00:03:51.740 So I go to the front gate.
00:03:52.600 I'm looking.
00:03:52.960 I'm like, wait a minute.
00:03:53.520 What is that?
00:03:54.700 Cops everywhere.
00:03:56.140 Guy shows up.
00:03:56.940 I'll show you the pictures afterwards.
00:03:58.500 With grenades, with weapons, with guns that came in here.
00:04:02.000 And the number of death threats that we started getting afterwards in Sanit, just for having
00:04:06.700 BB.
00:04:07.200 Dare I ask, what was the guy's background?
00:04:09.720 Do we know?
00:04:10.240 I couldn't tell you.
00:04:11.220 I know he went away.
00:04:12.040 I know they took his weapons away.
00:04:15.380 I'll show you a couple of texts.
00:04:16.920 Was he quote-unquote far-right?
00:04:19.080 Was he quote-unquote Islamist?
00:04:20.160 Do we know what his ethnicity was?
00:04:21.020 I have no idea.
00:04:21.620 Okay.
00:04:21.920 I don't know that.
00:04:22.960 I have no idea what that was.
00:04:24.440 But the point is the threat started increasing only after Bibi.
00:04:28.540 So here's the part.
00:04:29.380 When you say that, I think that applies to both sides.
00:04:32.760 I agree.
00:04:33.040 If you think about, like, who in the history of America has had more assassination attempts as a president, where do you think that's coming from?
00:04:39.880 He's a fascist.
00:04:41.000 Hitler.
00:04:41.780 This.
00:04:42.220 That.
00:04:42.520 He's a bigot.
00:04:43.080 He deals it out.
00:04:44.000 He's the one who started the threats and the violence.
00:04:46.180 I don't.
00:04:47.200 I'm not going to sit here and apologize for him not being a fighter.
00:04:49.020 He calls his opponents Nazis and fascists.
00:04:50.740 He's called a lot of people a lot of things.
00:04:52.080 He called Biden a Nazi.
00:04:53.380 The guys, after how many times they called him, he couldn't get anything right.
00:04:57.500 When he was coming up, the media was just—
00:04:59.060 Come on.
00:04:59.380 In 2016, he suggested the Second Amendment people should take care of Hillary Clinton.
00:05:02.360 Come on, I have a longer memory.
00:05:03.800 But let me come back to what I was saying.
00:05:04.980 I agree with you.
00:05:05.640 We need it across the board.
00:05:06.580 I don't think we should have political violence.
00:05:08.140 I don't support political violence on any end.
00:05:09.580 I don't justify going after capitalists or anyone else.
00:05:12.820 I'm against violence.
00:05:14.260 So I'm saying to you, for example, you did a show recently,
00:05:16.740 or not recently, I looked it up because I knew we were going to talk about Islam here.
00:05:19.440 You have a show on YouTube called Islam's Hidden Threat to the West.
00:05:21.960 You have another headline, Will Muslims Run America in 30 Years?
00:05:24.840 Now, I know you like to host good faith discussions and debates.
00:05:27.400 But you have to understand, if people get this in their feeds
00:05:30.280 and their social media all the time,
00:05:31.680 are you telling me that people are not going to start
00:05:33.740 if they hear Micah Beckwith of Indiana
00:05:35.940 say Islam is a demonic religion
00:05:37.520 and then they hear guests on your show saying Islam's
00:05:39.860 a threat to the West and they hear Randy Fine
00:05:41.880 saying Sharia law's taken over America
00:05:43.340 you don't think two Nazi teenagers with guns are going to go
00:05:45.660 I'm going to go deal with this mosque down my street
00:05:47.300 you're telling me there's no link between that?
00:05:49.920 No I'm not going to say there's no link between
00:05:51.860 that of course we have to be careful
00:05:53.360 we know that demonizing minority communities
00:05:55.700 look what happened to synagogues and I would say the same thing about the Jewish
00:05:57.800 community we have to be careful about our criticism
00:05:59.620 with Israel, so it doesn't lead to a tax on Jews.
00:06:01.660 The question becomes, for me,
00:06:03.740 it's all on data. Meaning,
00:06:05.860 if you live in my community,
00:06:07.780 you make it safer, I'm all for it.
00:06:09.900 If you come and you create jobs,
00:06:12.040 I'm all for it. If you come and you
00:06:13.620 assimilate, you love America, I'm all for it.
00:06:15.980 If you come in, you
00:06:17.600 don't contribute. You take advantage
00:06:19.700 of the programs that we have. You don't want
00:06:21.680 to create jobs, where is the incentive?
00:06:23.880 That's a different argument.
00:06:26.520 I'm talking about
00:06:27.860 incitement. When you say Muslims,
00:06:29.620 Are they going to run America in 30 years?
00:06:30.940 Of course not.
00:06:31.460 We're a tiny, we're 1% of the population.
00:06:33.020 No, I don't think so.
00:06:33.500 When you say Islam is a threat to the West,
00:06:35.920 oh, come on, 1% of the population.
00:06:37.640 By 2050, you guys are going to be
00:06:38.560 the biggest population in the world.
00:06:39.660 You guys make 2.9 million.
00:06:40.400 But not in America, not in America.
00:06:42.120 We're not even going to be, we're not even.
00:06:43.740 Oh.
00:06:44.420 Pull up the numbers, Rob.
00:06:45.360 What are we going to be in 2050?
00:06:46.400 The difference between you and I is,
00:06:48.680 I think, long term.
00:06:49.920 And even if, by the way,
00:06:50.900 if we do grow as a community, even that,
00:06:53.020 this is, I'm sorry to go back to World War II
00:06:54.900 and the Nazis, but look at the rhetoric
00:06:56.680 that Nazis used about Jews in 1920s, 30s.
00:06:58.920 These people are aliens.
00:06:59.880 They are parasites.
00:07:00.680 They're leeching off our state.
00:07:01.900 The rhetoric is very similar.
00:07:03.980 When I listened to Andy Ogles
00:07:05.100 and I listened to Chip Roy
00:07:06.440 and I listened to Randy.
00:07:07.860 You think Ilhan Omar loves America?
00:07:08.900 Yes.
00:07:09.340 You know how I know she loves America?
00:07:10.560 You think Ilhan Omar loves America?
00:07:11.480 Yeah, you don't?
00:07:12.600 Absolutely not.
00:07:13.340 She absolutely loves America.
00:07:14.700 You know how I know she loves America?
00:07:15.880 Tell me.
00:07:16.360 Because she came to America.
00:07:17.700 She decided to run for office.
00:07:18.820 When she ran for office,
00:07:19.860 she ran as a lefty
00:07:20.840 who devotes her life
00:07:21.820 to trying to improve people's lives.
00:07:23.340 She wants health care for everyone.
00:07:24.580 She wants health care
00:07:25.340 for every Trump voter watching this show.
00:07:27.720 She is eventually going to return to her country
00:07:30.560 and contribute to her country.
00:07:32.360 She's only doing this to advance her country.
00:07:34.480 This is bullshit.
00:07:35.180 Ilhan Omar.
00:07:35.680 You can see it's her words.
00:07:37.000 Pull up the video.
00:07:37.520 Listen to me.
00:07:38.020 Pull up her video.
00:07:38.900 It's her words.
00:07:39.320 I just showed you Sam Piper.
00:07:41.420 Any luck, I've never seen that video.
00:07:42.640 Let me say this to you.
00:07:43.160 Go ahead.
00:07:43.640 Donald Trump has made more anti-American remarks
00:07:45.360 than Ilhan Omar.
00:07:45.960 If we're going to go down, who loves America?
00:07:47.240 She loves it more than Trump does.
00:07:48.460 She didn't insider insurrection.
00:07:49.480 You think Ilhan Omar loves more?
00:07:50.440 A hundred times more.
00:07:51.420 I'm so glad you're saying this.
00:07:51.780 A hundred times more.
00:07:52.320 I'm so glad the audience can see that
00:07:54.620 Elhan Omar loves America more than Trump.
00:07:57.080 Well, one person incited an attack on our democracy.
00:07:59.300 One didn't.
00:08:00.320 One tried to undermine American democracy.
00:08:01.960 One didn't.
00:08:02.980 One pardoned 1,600 people who attacked America.
00:08:06.000 One didn't.
00:08:06.420 What happened with her finances?
00:08:07.560 Where did the $30 million network come from out of nowhere?
00:08:09.880 Oh, it was an accounting error.
00:08:10.960 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:08:11.500 I'm so sorry.
00:08:11.900 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:08:13.220 Stay out, hold on.
00:08:14.000 Don't go Trump, but Trump.
00:08:14.860 I am going to do that.
00:08:15.560 Go do the but Trump.
00:08:16.180 Your argument now is if you're...
00:08:17.280 First of all, I don't want to get into rights and wrongs of politicians' finances.
00:08:20.680 You're telling me Republican congressmen are not corrupt?
00:08:22.460 Oh, you're doing a but.
00:08:23.060 Okay, got it.
00:08:24.620 It's not a big deal.
00:08:25.480 It's just like you have this whiner.
00:08:26.460 No, no, because...
00:08:27.140 Ilhan Omar amended a congressional financial...
00:08:29.320 What's that got to do with loving America?
00:08:30.780 You're telling me people's finances don't have...
00:08:32.700 Donald Trump is the most corrupt politician in modern American history.
00:08:34.980 You just said he loves America.
00:08:36.380 Wait, you're saying...
00:08:37.100 Donald Trump is the most corrupt politician in America.
00:08:38.620 Did you deny that?
00:08:38.900 That's your opinion, guys.
00:08:40.020 He just made $3 billion.
00:08:41.000 No, it's not.
00:08:41.380 In your eyes...
00:08:41.880 Okay, Rob, pull up the numbers.
00:08:43.320 Pull up the numbers, Rob.
00:08:44.340 Forbes magazine, how much money did Donald Trump's net worth go up by last year?
00:08:47.080 Let me ask you...
00:08:47.500 $3 billion.
00:08:48.540 Just out of curiosity.
00:08:49.340 $3 billion.
00:08:49.840 How did he make that?
00:08:50.440 Are you going to go and show the same...
00:08:56.680 Wait a minute.
00:08:57.280 If you're going to allow me to rebuttal...
00:08:58.580 You always rebut with a question.
00:08:59.920 You've noticed that over two hours.
00:09:00.760 You've been doing it.
00:09:01.400 All you do is yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but.
00:09:02.780 I answered. I said Ilhan loves America.
00:09:03.500 You're a professional yeah, but.
00:09:04.440 I said Ilhan loves America.
00:09:05.960 Just out of curiosity.
00:09:07.000 You're the jumper on guy.
00:09:08.020 We were talking about who loves America,
00:09:09.200 and now we're talking about politicians.
00:09:10.100 Are you also going to go...
00:09:12.600 Look at that line, Patrick.
00:09:13.680 Look at that line.
00:09:14.180 Rob is good.
00:09:15.020 Can I show you something?
00:09:15.960 You know you said capitalists expand, Rob,
00:09:17.260 if you're ever looking for a job, my friend.
00:09:18.760 Yeah, everybody's been trying.
00:09:20.440 So if you go back here, then what's your argument if you say,
00:09:23.500 no, no, stay on that, Rob, stay on that.
00:09:25.240 Then what do you say?
00:09:26.420 His first presidency lost so much money.
00:09:28.440 Did you ever say that?
00:09:29.260 You never said that.
00:09:30.260 Because that doesn't add to your argument.
00:09:32.400 No, I've always said the second term is the term where he's got no guardrails.
00:09:34.780 He gets to do whatever he wants.
00:09:36.160 His first term, he lost money.
00:09:38.020 Okay, but the second term.
00:09:39.300 What about a second term?
00:09:40.760 Markets gone up.
00:09:41.460 He's made money.
00:09:42.940 Markets gone up.
00:09:43.660 Have you made more money in the last 18 months with your investments?
00:09:45.660 Do you know what happened on January 19th, the day before he became president, inaugurated?
00:09:49.320 Tell me.
00:09:49.560 The Emiratis put $500 million into his crypto fund.
00:09:52.440 You think that was the market going up?
00:09:53.740 They gave a half a billion dollar bribe to Donald Trump.
00:09:56.540 $187 million went straight into Trump bank accounts.
00:09:59.040 Ilhan Omar can work for the rest of her life,
00:10:00.560 do whatever she'll never make, $187 million.
00:10:02.360 Trump made that in one day from the Emiratis.
00:10:04.380 If Biden or Hunter Biden had done it, you'd be up in arms.
00:10:06.660 Now, back to the topic of who loves America.
00:10:08.600 The fact that you said Ilhan Omar loves more than...
00:10:10.500 I'm so glad you're going to be judged quoted for that.
00:10:13.440 Please, please quote me.
00:10:14.340 Let me finish the quote.
00:10:15.000 And then let's go back to Islam as well.
00:10:15.880 Let's finish the quote.
00:10:16.400 I will.
00:10:16.940 Ilhan Omar has spent her political career
00:10:19.520 trying to get free lunches for every American child,
00:10:21.820 including the children of MAGA voters.
00:10:23.640 Donald Trump has spent his presidency
00:10:24.860 taking away Medicare,
00:10:26.140 taking away health care from people,
00:10:27.440 taking Medicaid away from people.
00:10:28.480 So yes, Ilhan Omar loves Americans
00:10:30.140 more than Donald Trump loves Americans.
00:10:31.760 By the way, when she was threatened
00:10:32.720 by a Trump supporter who tried to kill her,
00:10:34.240 he went to prison,
00:10:35.100 tried to kill Ilhan Omar in 2019.
00:10:37.120 She went to the sentencing
00:10:38.440 and she asked for his sentence to be reduced
00:10:40.720 to give him grace.
00:10:42.000 I can't imagine Donald Trump doing that.
00:10:43.940 So I do think Ilhan Omar is someone
00:10:46.120 who has actually a very good role model.
00:10:47.760 Do you know how many...
00:10:48.740 I wouldn't have done that.
00:10:49.540 Do you know how many endless stories there are
00:10:51.460 of what Trump's done behind closed doors for people?
00:10:53.860 Do you know how many?
00:10:54.500 Yes, and do you know how many of them are?
00:10:55.760 Do you know how many of them are him screwing people over?
00:10:57.460 Do you know what he did to his niece?
00:10:58.700 Do you know what he did to a baby in his family?
00:10:59.960 This is all you're going to...
00:11:00.680 This is your hit piece just going on him right now?
00:11:02.720 I mean, you're doing positive.
00:11:03.900 I'm going to do negative.
00:11:04.480 Isn't that the point?
00:11:05.020 You're building up men.
00:11:06.320 You're building up Ilhan.
00:11:07.940 I am.
00:11:08.480 If there's anybody...
00:11:09.000 There's no comparison.
00:11:10.600 Anyone who knows Ilhan Omar says she's a good person.
00:11:12.760 And all of our friends, Donald Trump's people.
00:11:14.120 Everyone who knows Donald Trump says he's a horrible person.
00:11:16.060 What is the investigation into it right now?
00:11:17.360 Why did no one in Donald Trump's cabinet endorse Donald Trump for president a second time around?
00:11:20.540 What is the investigation into it right now?
00:11:21.800 Why did his vice president not endorse him for president?
00:11:23.640 You know how he is, though.
00:11:25.120 He's a guy that—
00:11:26.360 They all hate him.
00:11:26.940 He's a team of rivals.
00:11:27.680 They hate him.
00:11:28.140 Why did he come back?
00:11:28.800 Why did he come back?
00:11:29.380 He's a national security advisor.
00:11:30.560 He's a chief of staff.
00:11:31.860 Why did they come back?
00:11:32.640 Because the Democrats fucked everything up.
00:11:34.140 Joe Biden and Merrick Garland fucked everything up.
00:11:36.580 He should have been in prison.
00:11:37.420 Whose fault is that?
00:11:38.240 The Democrats.
00:11:38.900 Beautiful.
00:11:39.380 I'm agreeing with you.
00:11:40.720 Merrick Garland, I blame two people for Donald Trump.
00:11:42.140 How come unified Republicans?
00:11:43.540 I blame two people for Donald Trump.
00:11:46.040 Merrick Garland and Mitch McConnell.
00:11:48.620 Mitch McConnell should have voted to convict in 2021 to prevent him from ever running again.
00:11:53.120 And Merrick Garland should have got off his ass and investigated him from day one
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