＂More Powerful Than Trump？＂ - Musk vs Trump Feud EXPLODES As Bannon Calls For Investigations
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Summary
Rob and Yusong discuss the Trump/Musk situation, and how to deal with it. They also talk about Musk's new Tesla Model Y, and whether or not Trump should have been on the phone with him.
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So the Trump and Elon issue, you're going to see where I'm going with this.
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So Elon says, hey, Epstein, it's going to drop.
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And then apparently he deletes that tweet, Rob.
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Then Trump says he has no desire to fix the relationship with Musk.
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Even after former first buddy deletes his ex posts.
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This is President Trump saying that Elon Musk has Trump derangement.
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I think he got out there and all of a sudden he wasn't in this beautiful Oval Office.
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I was telling the chancellor, this is where it is.
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They come in and they walk into the Oval Office.
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Everything big comes right from this beautiful space.
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It's now much more beautiful than it was six months ago.
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A lot of good things are happening in this room.
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Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.
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On Elon Musk, do you plan to speak to him on the phone anytime soon?
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You'd have to ask him whether or not he's already called.
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But, you know, but I would imagine he'd want to talk to me.
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So in this situation, who should call who first?
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Then Elon said some stuff, apparently, with Stephen Miller's wife and all this other stuff that came out.
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You know, Steve Bannon demands Pentagon investigate Musk's push for sensitive briefing in China.
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Rob, I don't know if you, just like I took your wife, we will take back America.
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Because he said, Grok actually fact-checked him.
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Well, because he put it into Grok, and Grok mentioned something about it, Rob.
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Because I want to go to a place here on what's going on.
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Musk's own AI claims he took Miller's wife and mocked him for.
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Elon Musk has been forced to rebuke Grok, his own AI chatbot integrated into X,
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that falsely suggested the tech billionaire wrote a post that he took his wife on Sunday.
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Grok replied to a question on X, asking whether the post's supporting to be,
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which appeared to mock the White House Deputy Chief of Staff by stating,
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The chatbot answered by suggesting the post likely existed and was deleted.
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In response, and exasperated, Musk posted, no, it's fake Fs.
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So Grok is telling him, Grok's telling the world, most likely you did it and deleted it.
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Can you pull up Steve Bannon and the Steve Bannon and the Musk feud?
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Because Steve Bannon said some stuff about Musk, and then Musk said some stuff about Steve Bannon.
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He actually forced himself into the Pentagon, which was a huge explosion.
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And there's a huge article today in the Atlantic magazine that backs up everything I say,
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that President Trump was outraged when he found out that Elon Musk determined himself to force the generals
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and the senior staff of the Pentagon to give him a highly classified briefing on the war plans with China.
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Why would Elon Musk need that other than to maybe talk to his business partners about it?
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He has no need to know the strategic plan and the warfighting plan against the Chinese Communist Party,
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Now that's a very real possibility, as our defense secretary said in Singapore on Saturday,
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an attack by the Chinese Communist Party, by the PLA, may be imminent in Taiwan.
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So the question is, why is Elon Musk, who has no need to know that whatsoever,
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why was he forcing himself into the Pentagon to get a highly classified brief?
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And his security clearance should be held in abeyance.
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And with no security clearance, he can't run the companies.
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So whether you use the Defense Production Act or anything,
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but I think he shows by this immature, oh, Bannon's a communist and a retard,
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the fear he has of what's going to happen given his behavior.
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That was in response to, I believe, Elon Musk tweeting.
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Musk called Steve Bannon a criminal and a new ex.
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It was like, you know, when Trump said, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.
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And then Musk said, then I'm going to turn off this and I'm going to turn off that.
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Folks, the guy, the auto industry needs his chargers.
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The stuff that this guy's built, if there was anybody that wanted to be Darth Vader and a villain long term,
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This is probably the first time ever where he revealed his real long term moves to the world.
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And either the world caught it or it didn't catch it.
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Where he's going to be worth in the next 20 years, 25 to 50 trillion dollars,
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access to the most incredible weapons, access to the most incredible robots.
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If he finds a way to live on a different planet than any other planet becomes the enemy to the planet that he's living in.
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If he if he goes and does that and he's got that kind of wealth,
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you're going to see the world is going to be ran by this technocracy.
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You know, billionaires have the kind of wealth that's going to make billionaires look like they're poor.
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If somebody's worth 25 trillion dollars, you're worth a billion dollars.
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That's the same as you having a million dollars in the bank.
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And that comes with a lot of power and authority.
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And for the first time ever, we watched how a president went up against the richest man in the world.
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Does he, because now, how do you, you can't get into this fight with him if he's that powerful.
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You can't, he can't get into this fight with Elon.
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If Elon has all these robots, which he's going to have, he's already said it, and they're stronger than our military.
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How much emotional restraint has he shown the last week?
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By the way, you have to realize, we respect the empire he's built.
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It's very hard to build what he did with Tesla and the amount of criticism he got.
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The support we gave when the Delaware judge didn't want him to pay out his 55.3 or $56 billion that he earned to build all of these companies at the same time and become the modern day Iron Man.
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Does this guy, deep down inside, is showing signs of a good guy?
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But in the last week, if you can all of a sudden say something about someone's wife you mocked and say something about the president calling him a pedophile and then deleting it, the score for emotional, you may be a genius when it comes down to creating wealth, but where are you at for emotional restraint?
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We're entering a very, very interesting next era.
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A very interesting next era where there's going to be rich people, then there's going to be wealthy people, then there's going to be super wealthy people, then there's going to be individuals that have more wealth than 80% of countries have.
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That's the next phase we're getting to, and the game's going to change in a very, very big way.
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You know, you're not going to be sitting there like, you know how, when you're growing up, it's like, what do you want to be when you grow up?
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You want to be the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan?
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Do you want to be like the greatest, you know, actor?
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A person is showing that the most powerful position in the world maybe isn't the president.
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I think it all comes down to time horizon, and I'm going to make an analogy here.
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Like, when it comes to money, when I say save that money, people say, well, what do you mean save that money?
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He said, Trump may have the power for the next three and a half years, but I got this thing for 40 years.
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Don't forget that Elon said that and he meant it.
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So in my opinion, I was very critical of how Elon was acting, and now he just deletes the tweet about Epstein as if we're just going to forget that you just accused Trump of being a pedophile.
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But looking back at it, I almost want to put a little blame on Trump.
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All right, you gave him Doge, and he's going to run the Department of Government Efficiency.
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Why is he bringing his kids to the Oval Office?
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It's like, you know how you give them an inch, they'll take a mile?
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Elon's going to go wherever he's going to go, and he's going to be in every meeting until someone says, bro, what are you doing here?
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He's behind the Oval Office, the desk, with his kid on his shoulders, while Trump's giving his speech as if that's normal?
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Like, you're giving him a little too much access.
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And then you hear the story about Scott Besant, who's the Treasury Secretary.
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This is a clip of Steve Bannon reciting or explaining that fight, if you want me to play it.
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The physical altercation you had in the West Wing right outside the Oval Office between the Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besson, who's a good friend of mine, and a very even-handed guy.
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And that's because, number one, people felt that day that Elon might have been on drugs.
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And, number two, Scott called him a fraud to his face and said, look, we're in the middle of a terrible budget fight.
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So I think the president went out of his way to basically give him every opportunity to perform.
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Do you believe the level of accuracy of that story, that that's how it went about?
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I believe that there was a decent amount of accuracy with that.
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I do believe that Trump put together a team of rivals.
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There's no reason that Elon Musk would get along with any of these guys.
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You're some schmuck that's running whatever department right here.
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So I think there's a part of Elon that doesn't respect any of these guys.
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And I think it's on Trump to say, no, no, no, no.
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If I'm going to let you in this room, these are my guys.
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And I do believe there's some credibility there.
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I'm convinced something happened and that black eye has nothing to do with X punching him in the face.
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I'd be coming to work with black eyes every single day.
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And it was so embarrassing that prompted Elon to go nuclear because he, to save face, he went there.
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And look, you judge people by how a part of the madness of Elon comes with the drive that he has in his belly.
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He got it from his father, upbringing, competition, a girl, whatever it is.
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That fire in the belly is a very unique fire in the belly.
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But you better believe that fire in the belly is what did you say?
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But then there is that level of what did you say?
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If there is that part of I'm going to destroy you at all costs where you're publicly humiliating a Stephen Miller that people have to grog and a software you designed validates that you did do that and say that?
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A part of me wants to believe 100% of what Steve Bannon is saying because he's in the know and he talks to everybody.
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And if there's anybody that would find that, it's him.
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But a part of me is also thinking something happened.
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Do I visualize Besant punching Elon in the face?
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I don't visualize Besant punching Elon in the face, but I've been surprised.
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I mean, listen, we call this year the year of what?
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There's been a lot of surprises this year so far in the first six months of the year.
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But I mean, this report goes, there's another report.
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We just got to get to the freaking finish line.
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Yeah, but you're right because it was like, okay, now it's like a little bit too much.
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In regard to the, if the Scott Besant thing with Elon fighting White House this is, you know what?
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You have two alpha males throwing down in the White House for what's best of the country.
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Meanwhile, the Democrats, they fight for tampons in men's restrooms.
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And then let's not forget, his name was Aiden Mace Cherposky.
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He was a legislative aide for Senator Ben Cardin.
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They were filming gay pornos on the Senate hearing room at the Hart Senate building.
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And these are the same people trying to lecture us about morals.
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And then, Tom, I'm going to let you say your piece.
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20, blowing $20 million on a campaign called Sam, S-A-M, speaking to American men.
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They're spending $20 million for this two-year campaign, attempting how to talk to regular
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There's no amount of podcasting with a cool hat you could put on Eric Swalwell, Mr. Fang Fang,
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or putting on a fake manly beard on Pete Buttigieg, you're not going to fix the problem.
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So in regard to that fight, if that's the fight and they're fighting for what's best
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So getting back to the question, then we can move on here.
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And there's too many people who have made comments about Besson and Musk.
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Did Musk drop his shoulder like a rugby player and hit him in the chest, and then Besson kind
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But there's a lot of these little comments out there where there's smoke, there's fire.
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I'm 95% believing that Besson said to him, you're a fraud.
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You said $2 trillion, you said $1 trillion, now you say $160 billion.
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I believe that is exactly a comment that Scott Besson would make in the middle of this war.
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Now, the rest of this stuff, what goes on in Congress and everything, yeah, all that's
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Every bill, everything you find out goes there.
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Trump's got team rivals, and we'll see how this is going to play out.
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But we haven't seen the last of Elon Musk, the robots and all the power and everything
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