Valuetainment - July 24, 2025


＂Musk Tried To Blow Up Trump＂ - Laura Loomer UNLEASHES Truth About Musk’s War With Bessent


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6 minutes

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1,213

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73

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Elon Musk and Scott Besson have been in hot water for a variety of reasons, but one of the most interesting is the fact that they were in the same room together for most of the Trump administration, and that they got into a fight.

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00:00:00.000 What happened between Besson and Musk?
00:00:02.120 If you got your intel, you got people on the inside.
00:00:04.360 We wrote 50 different stories, right?
00:00:06.920 The black eye where Elon's saying,
00:00:09.180 well, it was my kid, Ax, that really punched me in the head,
00:00:11.820 punched me in the eye, and Trump's like,
00:00:13.100 oh, yeah, you should know what really, Ax, he's really this.
00:00:15.780 And then stories comes out afterwards,
00:00:18.380 and Besson's being asked, he doesn't really fully answer,
00:00:20.760 but he does kind of talk about he'll stand up.
00:00:23.040 So what do you think really happened there?
00:00:25.300 If you know what happened there,
00:00:26.500 maybe you don't know what happened there.
00:00:27.860 I honestly don't know.
00:00:28.880 I mean, I know that Elon and Besson,
00:00:30.660 I can say they would fight a lot, from my understanding.
00:00:34.160 I know for a fact that they would get into screaming matches, 1.00
00:00:36.240 and they don't like each other.
00:00:38.420 And I think there's probably personality clashes.
00:00:40.680 I think that whenever you have very successful, wealthy men
00:00:44.640 all in the same room competing for the president's attention,
00:00:49.640 competing to be number one,
00:00:52.480 you're obviously going to have clashes, right?
00:00:54.640 You're going to have fights,
00:00:55.440 because you can't really have too many alphas, I guess, right?
00:00:58.420 Too many alphas in the same room or the same space at one time
00:01:01.440 without people fighting.
00:01:03.440 You know, that being said,
00:01:05.120 I think that both of them have legitimate criticisms of each other.
00:01:09.060 I don't agree with what Elon did trying to blow up Trump on the way out.
00:01:12.780 I don't agree with him, you know,
00:01:14.340 falsely accusing the president of being on the Epstein list.
00:01:16.960 But at the same time, I do think that, you know,
00:01:20.600 a lot of Scott Besson's background is fair game and fair for criticisms.
00:01:25.500 I mean, he has an association with George Soros
00:01:29.200 and some of the people who Scott Besson has brought in
00:01:32.480 to the Treasury Department
00:01:34.840 and who he's affiliated with even after the election.
00:01:38.240 Trump haters, people who were very anti-Trump
00:01:41.540 in the closing days leading up to the presidential election.
00:01:45.620 So I would just say that
00:01:48.700 I think that there's legitimate criticisms of both of them.
00:01:53.420 Do you think there was a fight?
00:01:54.360 Do you think there was a punch?
00:01:55.380 Do you think there was that?
00:01:56.100 I know that there was,
00:01:56.700 I know for a fact that there was a screaming match, 0.90
00:01:59.540 like a verbal fight, like a verbal fight.
00:02:01.560 I don't know if it got physical.
00:02:03.060 And I don't want to, you know, I don't want to speculate.
00:02:05.760 I have no idea how Elon got his black eye.
00:02:08.040 Um, I do know that they had a screaming match though.
00:02:13.100 Do you know over what?
00:02:14.680 Do you know what the topic was?
00:02:16.440 Well, there were several screaming matches, 0.98
00:02:17.960 but one of the screaming matches had to do with the fact 0.90
00:02:22.500 that Scott Besson, uh, like fired,
00:02:26.620 but you know, didn't really fire
00:02:28.000 because nobody really gets fired in the Trump administration, right?
00:02:31.640 Relocated or reassigned, uh, Doge's pick,
00:02:34.740 Elon's pick for, uh, one of the IRS positions.
00:02:38.040 And he did so without consulting with him
00:02:41.060 a day after he was appointed.
00:02:44.400 And that's, I believe, one of the things
00:02:46.840 that really set Elon off
00:02:48.220 and led to them having a screaming match with each other. 1.00
00:02:51.040 It was one of the Doge appointed officials at the IRS.
00:02:55.300 Got it.
00:02:56.260 And Besson decided that he didn't want him in that position
00:02:58.760 and reassigned him.
00:03:01.520 Did Besson feel...
00:03:03.540 And I think this was actually reported
00:03:04.780 a few days after the fact.
00:03:07.120 I mean, I knew about it.
00:03:08.400 I was asked not to say anything about it.
00:03:09.960 And, you know, part of getting intel
00:03:11.460 is having people trust that they can give you information
00:03:14.200 and not say anything about it.
00:03:15.260 But now it's out there, right?
00:03:16.400 So it's not like, it's not like it's proprietary anymore.
00:03:19.780 It's not like I'm leaking it.
00:03:21.120 It's already been reported, right?
00:03:22.380 But that's, you asked me one of the ways
00:03:24.320 that I'm able to get intel.
00:03:26.240 Well, you're like, I talked to some of the most powerful,
00:03:28.480 richest people in the world, right?
00:03:29.780 In corporate America, in politics,
00:03:32.060 people all around the world.
00:03:34.100 And you have to show that you can keep a secret, right?
00:03:39.220 Yeah.
00:03:40.020 You have to show that you can keep a secret.
00:03:41.780 Do you think there is a chance that...
00:03:44.840 I don't know what fellow said this yesterday
00:03:46.940 about the fact that, hey, Republicans,
00:03:48.520 2026 is around the corner.
00:03:49.940 One of the things we've got to figure out
00:03:51.120 is to unite Trump and Musk together.
00:03:53.200 Do you think there's a likelihood
00:03:54.200 that the two of them will unite?
00:03:55.260 Probably not.
00:03:58.220 I think that there's been so much gasoline
00:04:00.400 poured on the fire since, you know, Elon's last day
00:04:04.840 and just all of the, you know, the bickering back and forth,
00:04:09.520 whether it be the allegations that he's on the Epstein list
00:04:12.800 and, you know, the threats about revoking
00:04:14.900 and canceling the government contracts.
00:04:17.400 I don't really see there being any type of unification.
00:04:20.360 I mean, look, Elon himself
00:04:21.840 has his own independent political operation now, right?
00:04:24.500 The America Party.
00:04:25.520 He has his own political consultant.
00:04:28.120 So it's...
00:04:30.940 He said that he wants to fund people
00:04:34.140 that didn't vote against the big, beautiful bill.
00:04:37.940 Who knows?
00:04:38.460 I mean, I don't know.
00:04:39.360 I don't know how political he's going to continue being.
00:04:41.740 He doesn't really seem to be talking politics much these days
00:04:44.540 since he left the White House.
00:04:47.300 He's more focused on his companies.
00:04:49.040 But I don't know.
00:04:49.840 As we get closer to 2026,
00:04:51.620 I don't really think that his threats carried much influence.
00:04:54.920 I mean, he's certainly an influential person,
00:04:56.700 but even threatening to primary every single person
00:04:59.800 who voted for the big, beautiful bill
00:05:01.500 didn't change anybody's votes
00:05:03.320 if you look at the people
00:05:04.640 who actually voted for the big, beautiful bill.
00:05:07.040 So, you know, it makes you wonder,
00:05:09.280 like, how heavy is his political influence?
00:05:12.660 Obviously, he has money.
00:05:13.880 He can certainly influence things financially.
00:05:16.180 But in terms of his word against President Trump's,
00:05:19.160 it's pretty obvious that people value
00:05:20.760 President Trump's word more,
00:05:22.580 politically speaking, that is, right,
00:05:24.260 than Elon Musk's.
00:05:25.720 Because if Elon's word was more powerful
00:05:27.900 than President Trump's,
00:05:29.280 you would have seen the entire Congress
00:05:30.940 vote against the big, beautiful bill.
00:05:32.920 And they didn't.
00:05:33.620 So that's one way of saying,
00:05:34.760 I don't think you can replace me.
00:05:36.600 At least not now.
00:05:37.460 But again, keep in mind,
00:05:38.480 a lot of times, people change.
00:05:40.940 Hey, everybody.
00:05:41.560 Laura Loomer here.
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