＂Muslims Spat In Soldiers’ Faces!＂ – Tommy Robinson BLASTS UK For BOWING To Islamic-Like Extremism
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Summary
In this episode, I speak to the founder of the English Defence League, a group dedicated to defending the rights of Muslims and Sikhs living in the UK. We talk about his life growing up in a multicultural town like Luton, and his views on multiculturalism.
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So it's interesting you're saying this because for me, when, when I talk to friends or guys
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about Tommy Robinson, you know, it's a very interesting reaction that we get.
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In the morning, we're sitting here literally an hour and a half prior to this, me and Rob
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are out there kind of going through finalizing the notes.
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And I see this fellow with his wife to our left.
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He keeps looking at me and you can tell he's Middle Eastern, maybe Indian, but I don't
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know yet, but he's paying attention to what we're talking about.
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We're watching videos and we're going through a couple of things.
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Then he comes back and he says, Hey, I heard you're talking about UK and you know, what's
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going on there and Muslims and Sikhs and all this other stuff.
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He says, well, you know, you have to know that I said, you're at a nice resort.
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He says, Tommy Robinson, man, he's, he's been arrested.
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But a lot of my friends who couldn't stand him 20 years ago are now siding with him.
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He says, a lot of people are agreeing with him now.
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What did he call the, uh, uh, Schofield or Sheffield one of the cities?
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He says, Sheffield, he says, you know, when I lived there, it was something else 20 years
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So we know when we watch you, what you're against.
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So I'd like to know for a lot of people that maybe don't know your story.
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I've seen you back and forth with peers from 10 years ago to now to all the stuff you got
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I see your feud with you and Dan Bolzerian online.
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And, you know, there's a lot of different things that's going on.
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I want my children to grow up in a safe and prosperous Britain.
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And there is no one like the gentleman you spoke to.
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If you ask them, is the country going in the right direction?
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And you know, like the saying, we live in a free country.
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You won't hear anyone say that in Britain anymore.
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So those people, like the gentleman you spoke to, all I'm guilty of is being a decade ahead.
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I was so far ahead of everyone else who now sees the problems.
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And the reason I was so far ahead is, as I said, I was born in Luton town.
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And when I grew up, you have to understand, Luton is a multicultural town.
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And if you line up my friends and you took 20 of us, we're all sons of immigrants.
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But growing up in that town gives me, so many other communities get blamed for the problem
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And I take a lot of flack from this from all sides.
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So David Cameron come out and said multiculturalism has failed when he was the Prime Minister of
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Angela Merkel said multiculturalism has failed.
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For me, I think that's weak and it's cowardice because Islam has failed.
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In fact, no other communities have failed to integrate and assimilate into Great Britain.
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And my hometown, and I can only speak by experience, is a perfect example of that.
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So any journalists who come to Luton, which is where the English Defence League started,
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Luton, by the CEA, was named as the epicentre for terrorist atrocities in Europe.
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Luton, the head office of al-Majraddin, Omar Baqri, Abu Hamza, some of the country's most
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feared radical jihadists, their head office was in my town.
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So some of the, and to some people, this is a faraway story.
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When people go to fight for ISIS or they commit terrorist atrocities, it's just something you
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I've got friends who I grew up with who converted to Islam in jail, who are now part of those
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groups who have done jail for becoming ISIS terrorists.
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And growing up in Luton, when we went to school, there was the Muslim playground and the non-Muslim
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There was just a non, there's total, no assimilation.
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And I challenge every journalist that comes with me.
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And any American journalists who have come, I've had them come from the New Yorker, all
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You go out in that town and find me Muslims with a non-Muslim.
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Just find me a group of Muslims that have non-Muslim friends in amongst them.
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Every group of white children are with black children.
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Every group of black children are with white children.
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And I bring it back to even our school dinner tables.
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When you go into our school dinner halls, everyone's sitting in the mix, whites, blacks,
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And in the corner, there's eight, 10 tables of Muslims.
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I experienced the hostility, the difference growing up in a town like that.
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So when people say multiculturalism's failed, I say Islam's failed.
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So when we had the rape gang scandal, which to any American viewers, to understand how big
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of a problem this was, in 2004, I was 20 and I organized my first ever demonstration.
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And I actually presented these leaflets at, because people think I've changed.
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Luton is a, Luton's the roughest town in the UK.
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Many of my friends, just because of where I grew up, are involved in criminality.
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At 16 years old, I left school and I'd done an aeronautical engineering apprenticeship
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So, I studied for four years to fix airplanes, to become an engineer.
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I didn't try at school, but I naturally done well.
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Were you always in trouble in high school or no?
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And what I thought was normal growing up, I realized wasn't normal.
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Whether it be one score against another, there was a lot of problems.
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When you say violent town, like who came from Luton?
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Because, you know, initially he's the one that told me, put me in contact with you.
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So, okay, so you're coming up in a place like that.
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But at 20 years old, which is 04, 21 years ago, where is the passion coming for you to
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20 years old, I'd seen, I had a cousin who was sexually groomed.
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So I had a cousin who was taken by the Pakistani community.
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She woke up one time in a flat and there's loads of bearded men all raping her.
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But she kept escaping the house to get back to the gangs.
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And somebody that you interact with, you know this girl.
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Yeah, and I remember listening as a child to all the family meetings about it.
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Yeah, because what they do is, the process is, they get a young girl.
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And the grooming period is, they give them trainers.
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And then they get their confidence and they separate them from their family.
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And there's a process that these children go through.
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And then they get them into sexual relationships with one man at first.
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And before they know it, there's 10 men on them.
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And then literally, there's stories which people would find amazing.
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In some of the houses, the girls are in the houses, and there's men queuing at the doors
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to go in one by one to rape them and rape them and rape them.
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To anyone who doesn't watch that, you should watch it.
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And I saw that in Russia, the Chechnyans had gone into a school, and the jihadists had
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Your kids are in school, and you hear there's terrorists who have took control of the school.
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And I remember watching the mums drop on their knees, and the parents, as they started
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And I remember watching it, thinking, well, that's not one person doing it.
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There was a whole group of men that had done it.
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And then just a month later, I'm watching Muslims in Luton get interviewed in a chicken
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And they're saying that this was a justified attack, and it would be justified in an English
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His name was Saiful Islam, which is Sword of Islam.
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And I watched him say it, and I thought, who is he?
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And by this time, I was involved in, you know, the football scene in the UK, where many
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would look at it as a football hooligan scene, where lots of young men go to football together
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and certain clubs would have rivalries with each other.
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I remember looking at this group, and that was my awakening.
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I looked at the group, and I saw Al-Majradin, the man that was talking.
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And then the more I looked at them, I saw Omar Bakri, Abu Hamza.
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60% of the terrorists in UK jails are part of this group.
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And then when I looked at them, I saw the head office was on Biscuit Road.
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So I started looking at what they were saying, and on their website, and then they had a
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And I went down to the pace table and watched what they were doing.
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They were literally recruiting to send people to fight against our armed forces at the time,
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And they were openly doing it, celebrating it, sending so many Muslims out there to be
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And I remember thinking, how are they doing this in our town center?
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And remember, we'd seen our daughters, our cousins, our relatives, so many girls at school.
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When I went to school, I knew so many girls that were being raped and prostituted.
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But at the time as children, we just saw them as being with all the older Pakistani men.
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So a lot of the kids would view the girls as slags.
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We're looking at the girls thinking they were with all the older Pakistanis.
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As children, we weren't viewing them as victims.
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It's only as you grow up that you realize they're kids.
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So then when I saw them outside the town, when I saw them doing these protests, I wrote leaflets.
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And I went to all the lads that went to football and said, we've got to do something about these
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And the more I'd looked into them, the more I was...
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Then I started looking at Islam and understanding why these people think the way they do.
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It terrified me that there was such a large group operating day in, day out that weren't
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And in the leaflets, I said, whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted.
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If you're black or you're white, and there were drug dealers or criminals within communities,
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which are in every community, the police would crush them.
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But the Islamic community, they're driving around in Lamborghinis and Ferraris.
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We know which shops they're using to front heroin.
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And I said in this leaflet that they're using heroin as a weapon against our communities.
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And they're getting our young girls hooked on heroin.
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And then they're prostituting them in paedophile gangs.
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And this leaflet went on the front page of my newspaper, local newspaper.
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And in it, I said that we'd have a problem with your average Muslim, but there's a problem
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Now, the response I got from that, I face full backlash from every single Pakistani Muslim
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Very original for Pakistanis, calling themselves the Gambino Gang.
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But they deal with all the prostitution, the drugs.
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Now, fast forward to 2007, our national newspapers started running articles about how the Gambino Gang
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are linked with the jihadist groups and how they're funding all the terrorism.
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But growing up at that time, as our football group, there was quite a few English lads as
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And it was a bit of a battle over us not wanting to back down to the takeover of the town.
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And the soldiers are doing a homecoming parade.
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But by the time we get to 2009, this happened in 2004.
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Over those five years, I've gone on to set up a plumbing business.
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And like most people, I could have turned a blind eye to what was happening.
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2009, our soldiers are given the freedom to walk through the town.
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On a homecoming parade, this same group, Al-Majradin, have, I turned up on a Tuesday morning in
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And I see about 30 or 40 women all with the niqab together, which is quite a sight anyway.
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And then as I looked, I started spotting the jihadists.
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Saifel Islam, Roger Ibrahim, all of their main extremists.
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And now I realized they're going to attack the troops.
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But then I watched as the police took these jihadists, which they are ISIS, and through
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They took all the jihadists through the town hall.
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And as the soldiers had marched down the back of the road, they brought all the jihadists
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And then the jihadists were screaming at them, baby killers, butchers of Basra.
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They spat in some of the soldiers' mum's faces.
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And that was the catalyst that then gave birth to the organization we formed.
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And after this, I sat down with my cousin at the time and some of the other lads and said,
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And Luton, every time Luton, just Google Luton and terrorism, yeah?
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But you see Beeky, the one on the left, he went to my school.
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But at the time, you have to understand that they were not a prescribed group.
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They ended up becoming a prescribed terrorist organisation, but only because we took them on.
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You know the scenes of Abu Hamza with the hook in Finnsbury Park, where hundreds of Muslims are in the streets, and he's calling for war and calling for jihad?
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But back when this was going on, so this is going on in Luton, I watched that day, and then said, we've got to do something.
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And if you Google Luton, every time my town, I'm quite tribal.
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I'm quite tribal about my town, about my school, about my football club.
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And every time you heard Luton town mentioned, it was to do with terrorists.
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And every time it's mentioned, it's to do with extremism and jihadists and terrorist plots.
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They collected their bombs in Luton, fertilizer bomb plot, Luton, Stockholm bomber, Luton.
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So many of the world's planned jihadist attacks have been born out of my town.
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And that happened because no one confronted them.
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And then it forced the government to prescribe them as terrorist groups.
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What they'd been given as jihadists is a free reign for 20 to 30 years to radicalize and recruit in our towns and cities across the country.
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So we started an organization to challenge what they were doing, highlight what they were doing, which gave birth to the English Defence League, which spread across the country.
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I went from working on a building site to six months later being the leader of the biggest street protest movement Europe had seen.
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We went from this incident against our soldiers, and they attacked them.
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So then I organized a protest in response to it to show that the people of Luton support our armed forces.
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And when we turned up that day, the police kettled us.
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And I brought a cameraman just because I knew what they'd do.
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So I watched that day as the terrorists were taken through the town hall.
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And when people got angry, the police drew their batons on the English.
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He was a wedding photographer, a wedding cameraman.
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And then when we turned up in the town centre, they put us against the walls, cameras in our faces,
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what's your name, take your shoes off, put their hands, searched us.
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And as they're doing it, I said, you didn't do this to them.
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When they attacked our armed forces, you didn't search them.
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You didn't abuse them the way you're abusing us right now.
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And then when we went to try and get to the war memorial,
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our big thing was this happened at our war memorial for our armed forces.
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We went to pay our respects and they were attacked.
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So it was a real, I said, you could have lit a match and our town would have blown up.
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That's the feeling in the town, how angry and frustrated we were.
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So as we turned up to show our support for our armed forces,
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which was a march, it was a bank holiday Sunday, the bank holiday weekend,
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the police stopped us from getting to the war memorial.
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When you try and talk about these issues, anything nationalist,
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anything waving the St. George's flag or the union flag, it attracts.
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I always said it attracts the brave and it also attracts some idiots.
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Now, so National Front are a neo-Nazi sort of organisation.
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But we thought the groups like this may try and turn up.
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Because the more I was learning, I looked and that year,
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five Christian churches had been blown up on Christmas Day in Nigeria.
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So I was looking at this jihad that was going on around the world
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and I was going down a rabbit hole and understanding what it was
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Thought, right, we'll go and show our support for our armed forces.
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And as we turn up to show our support for our armed forces,
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the police come past on a horse and hit him in the face with a Trojan,
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They had never said no to the Islamic community.
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So there was Bradford, the riots in Bradford, I think,
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where the Pakistani community come out and burn Bradford.
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And I learned a lot of this by then talking to the police as well.
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they basically just got appeased for everything and anything.
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Second largest Bible religion in South Asian of the UK city
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3,000 Asians, having a majority of people in the city,
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And for my work, I've become an enemy of the British state.
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I've humiliated them and embarrassed them with my content.
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which they successfully hid for almost 30 years.
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In the last 15 years, I've learned a lot about how the media work,
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about how the government work, the judiciary works.
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