Valuetainment - September 11, 2023


NATO： Peacekeeping Organization or the Reason WW3 is Closer Than Ever Before？


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Nikki Haley and Vaynerchuk go head-to-head in a heated debate about Ukraine and NATO. What does NATO mean and who is it fighting for? And who are the real threats to Russia?

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00:00:00.000 In the recent GOP debate, there was a moment where Nikki, Haley, Vivek went after each other.
00:00:03.380 It was heated. The entire place was on fire. I was in the audience. I was watching.
00:00:07.520 Haley was defending Ukraine, saying, how dare we support...
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00:00:25.120 ...Port A. Putin. He's a thug. He's a killer. 0.99
00:00:27.240 Didn't he just kill his opponent, precaution, and we're watching this thing take place? 0.98
00:00:31.240 And if we're sitting here, stay out of the way, let Russia take over Ukraine, what are we doing? 0.81
00:00:34.600 We should defend our allies, NATO, since we're putting money into NATO.
00:00:38.260 We should defend NATO. So that prompted me to say, let's investigate this.
00:00:41.940 Brandon brought this up, and I said, how big is NATO? How much money are we spending in NATO?
00:00:46.000 Who's scarier, NATO or BRICS? 1.00
00:00:47.740 Are we more worried about members in NATO or members in BRICS, which is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa,
00:00:55.240 which party can throw, Iran there as well?
00:00:57.240 What is the pro and con of NATO?
00:00:58.880 Why is it still around? The whole thing was prompted by Russia, but Russia fell in 91.
00:01:03.400 Do we still continue putting money into it?
00:01:05.540 Did anybody ever leave NATO?
00:01:07.420 Did anybody come back to NATO?
00:01:09.240 Who is not the adjoined NATO?
00:01:10.680 A bunch of different questions that we're going to get into today.
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00:01:16.480 Let's get right into NATO.
00:01:17.720 What does NATO stand for?
00:01:19.080 The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, an intergovernmental military alliance between 31 member states that was established in 1949 after World War II because everybody feared Soviet Union.
00:01:32.060 So NATO is a collective security system.
00:01:34.100 Its independent member states agreed to defend each other against attacks.
00:01:37.740 During the Cold War, NATO operated as a check on the threat posed by the Soviet Union.
00:01:43.000 So it's kind of like being part of a gang and everybody teams up with each other.
00:01:46.020 If somebody messes with you, you messed up with me.
00:01:48.140 So if you want to know who's part of NATO as well as who joined first, here's a list.
00:01:51.520 In 1949, the 12 countries that joined Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom, and United States.
00:02:00.920 1952, it's Greece and Turkey.
00:02:02.320 In 1959, it's Germany. 0.60
00:02:03.480 In 1966, France is the first one that leaves.
00:02:05.640 They're like, listen, we're out of here.
00:02:06.840 We don't want to deal with you guys.
00:02:07.900 NATO, they were offended.
00:02:09.280 They were upset.
00:02:09.860 They're out.
00:02:10.800 Later on in 2009, they rejoin.
00:02:14.080 1982, it's Spain.
00:02:15.520 1999, it's Czech Republic, formerly Czechoslovakia.
00:02:18.940 Then it's Hungary, Poland.
00:02:20.140 Then in 2004, it's Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia, formerly Yugoslavia.
00:02:26.900 And then in 2009, it's Albania, Croatia.
00:02:29.700 In 2017, it's Montenegro.
00:02:31.220 In 2020, it's North Macedonia. 0.98
00:02:32.840 And in 2023, Finland, making it 31 members.
00:02:35.940 So it's important when you see this, somebody may say, so what, all these people are joining.
00:02:39.020 That's totally fine.
00:02:39.940 I want you to look at this map on Statista and look at the years from dark blue.
00:02:43.620 If you look at the dark navy blue to lighter blue to lighter, lighter, lighter, and all of a sudden, it's green and yellow.
00:02:48.780 Notice how it starts.
00:02:51.040 All the navy blue is far left, far from Russia, meaning Russia doesn't care with those countries at that time.
00:02:57.400 But notice it gets lighter, which is getting close to Russia, and lighter, and then the yellow and the light blue and the more yellow.
00:03:05.300 Now they're getting right next to Russia. 0.75
00:03:07.480 And Russia's now sitting there saying, NATO, what plans do you have here?
00:03:11.420 What are you trying to do?
00:03:12.780 It's almost as if you're pushing me to have to do something and take action against Ukraine, Poland, and some of these other countries.
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00:04:26.740 This is when Russia all of a sudden woke up. 0.95
00:04:29.520 Because what's interesting while we're looking at this, just this year, July 11th of 2023,
00:04:33.560 leaders agree to expedite Ukraine's NATO membership.
00:04:37.780 Now, you got to realize, these countries Russia's looking at, these guys were former Russia.
00:04:42.080 He's looking at saying, why are you doing this to me?
00:04:44.440 What's your motive here?
00:04:45.780 Again, this is really pissing Putin off.
00:04:48.660 Now, you may watch us and say, who cares, Pat?
00:04:51.160 Do we want to make him happy?
00:04:52.540 Do we want to make our enemy happy?
00:04:54.880 This is not a guy we like.
00:04:56.120 He just killed his opponent.
00:04:57.760 Is our priority to make the guy happy?
00:05:00.020 Some may say, priority maybe not to start a World War III.
00:05:03.420 That's why we started this, right?
00:05:04.700 So imagine you're Putin, you're like, wait a minute.
00:05:06.640 You're getting all this stuff that's getting stronger.
00:05:08.740 How many ballistic missiles do you have that can be targeted in my country?
00:05:11.300 I got to take care of my country, right?
00:05:13.000 Look what this chart shows.
00:05:14.700 NATO defense system.
00:05:15.560 If you go all the way to the bottom right, you'll see the ballistic missiles.
00:05:19.820 You'll notice Germany, Romania, Poland, Spain, and Turkey.
00:05:23.460 U.S. has missiles in those countries, including NATO and Germany, that can't directly target Russia.
00:05:30.660 And this is what upsets Putin.
00:05:32.580 So what?
00:05:33.080 July 11, 2023.
00:05:34.400 They're trying to expedite the process of getting Ukraine the membership, right?
00:05:36.960 According to this article number five, if Ukraine is part of NATO and Russia attacks them, not only can they, but they have to respond because it's in the treaty to defend NATO.
00:05:49.420 The parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all, okay, all.
00:05:58.240 And it continues at the end to say, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
00:06:09.720 This is in their articles.
00:06:11.880 You attack one or more, we can attack you.
00:06:14.920 And Russia, essentially, if they speed up the process of Ukraine and Russia attacks Ukraine, that means NATO can now attack Russia because it's part of the treaty.
00:06:21.280 So before we tell you who spends the most money for, you know, the budget for NATO, let's look at pros and cons because maybe there's a lot of pros for NATO for us to have that.
00:06:28.740 And then you can look at the cons as well.
00:06:30.500 Pros.
00:06:31.180 Deterrence.
00:06:31.660 NATO's main goal is to deter aggression against its member states.
00:06:34.260 By having a strong military alliance, NATO makes it clear to potential adversaries that any attack on a NATO member would be met with a strong response.
00:06:40.840 Defense.
00:06:41.500 NATO committed to defending its member states if they are attacked.
00:06:44.460 This has been demonstrated in practice, most notably during the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia, when NATO intervened to stop the Serbian government's ethnic cleansing campaign in Kosovo.
00:06:54.920 Stability.
00:06:55.940 NATO has helped to promote stability in Europe since its founding in 1949 by providing a forum for cooperation and consultation.
00:07:03.020 NATO has helped to prevent conflict between its member states.
00:07:06.080 Values.
00:07:06.600 NATO is based on the shared values of democracy, individual liberty, and the rule of law.
00:07:11.360 These values are important to many people in Europe and North America, and NATO helps to uphold them.
00:07:16.500 Now let's take a look at the cons.
00:07:18.500 Cost.
00:07:19.400 NATO is a costly alliance.
00:07:20.760 The United States spends a significant amount of money on NATO, which some argue is not necessary.
00:07:25.780 Next.
00:07:26.800 Unnecessary.
00:07:27.780 Some argue that NATO is no longer necessary.
00:07:29.720 In the post-Cold War era, they point out that there's no longer a clear threat from the Soviet Union or any other major power.
00:07:36.560 Aggressive.
00:07:36.920 Some argue that NATO is an aggressive alliance that is more interested in expanding its influence than its deterring aggression.
00:07:43.860 They point to NATO's interventions in Yugoslavia and Libya as evidence of this.
00:07:48.780 Ineffective.
00:07:49.340 Some argue that NATO has been ineffective in preventing conflict in Europe.
00:07:53.020 They point to wars in Bosnia, Herzegovina, Kosovo, and Ukraine as evidence of this.
00:07:57.720 Now, in 2016, Trump pointed out something that really got a lot of people upset, but it got a lot of American people saying,
00:08:03.760 why are we doing this? It doesn't make any sense. They pulled out the data of what percentage of NATO we put into.
00:08:10.720 So if you look at 2022, you would notice United States all the way at the top.
00:08:14.480 We put in not only the most money, but percentage wise, we put the second highest percentage of our GDP at 3.47%.
00:08:21.960 Then look at the drop-off, how quickly the total dollar goes to UK.
00:08:26.980 And then you have Germany, France, Italy, Canada, Poland, Netherlands.
00:08:29.800 And by the way, if you look at all these countries, most of them are close to Russia, but we are not close to Russia.
00:08:35.920 But why are we putting 3.5% into this?
00:08:40.120 Well, the rule is only 2%.
00:08:41.460 You don't have to put more than 2%.
00:08:42.660 We're going 3.47%.
00:08:44.160 Some may say we're doing this.
00:08:45.360 It allows us to have control.
00:08:46.800 We have the loudest mic.
00:08:47.880 When we say what to do, we're putting in the most money.
00:08:49.600 How much is the money we're really putting into?
00:08:51.180 Let me kind of break down what 3.47% is.
00:08:53.860 So if you notice, US, 811 billion.
00:08:55.760 Then you have UK at 730, which means we're 11 times more than what UK puts in.
00:09:00.340 Then it's Germany, 63 billion.
00:09:01.860 France, 57.
00:09:03.160 Italy, 33.
00:09:04.120 Canada, 27.
00:09:05.100 Poland, 15 billion.
00:09:06.060 Netherlands, 15 billion.
00:09:07.020 Spain, 15 billion.
00:09:07.720 So, you know, when you listen to the arguments, DeSantis Vivek or Nikki Haley and, you know, Romney and who should I listen to?
00:09:14.000 I don't know who I should listen to.
00:09:15.140 One side says, why are we spending so much money?
00:09:17.280 Why is this establishment so obsessed with military-industrial complex?
00:09:22.220 Spend, spend, spend, spend.
00:09:23.700 Make money for Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman.
00:09:27.620 You're making all money for these guys that eventually give to your party.
00:09:30.220 That's what the argument is made from one side.
00:09:32.160 The other side is sitting there saying, wait a minute, who do you worry about more, BRICS or NATO?
00:09:37.120 Who's part of NATO?
00:09:38.340 You're worried about Germany?
00:09:40.060 You're worried about France?
00:09:41.800 You're worried about UK?
00:09:43.140 Let me kind of break down to you who's part of BRICS.
00:09:45.100 Are you worried about Brazil?
00:09:46.480 Not really.
00:09:47.200 Are you worried about India?
00:09:48.400 No, we have a decent relationship with them.
00:09:50.300 Are you worried about China?
00:09:51.660 Yeah, we are worried about China.
00:09:53.100 Are you worried about Russia?
00:09:54.140 We are worried about Russia.
00:09:55.320 Are you worried about South Africa?
00:09:56.700 Who?
00:09:57.280 South Africa?
00:09:58.060 No, I'm not really worried about them.
00:09:59.380 How about Iran? 0.59
00:09:59.980 Well, Iran is kind of part of them because China invests in time.
00:10:02.260 How about Saudi Arabia?
00:10:02.940 Well, they work with everybody.
00:10:03.980 They're kind of in the middle, but they're not taking oil with one.
00:10:06.260 So they're probably tied to China a little bit.
00:10:08.100 But I am worried about China.
00:10:09.460 I am worried about Russia.
00:10:10.660 So what does BRICS look like compared to NATO?
00:10:12.720 Here's what it looks like.
00:10:13.680 Formation year, NATO 49, BRICS 2009.
00:10:16.180 Type of organization, military security, BRICS, economic, political, and cultural cooperation.
00:10:21.480 NATO, 31 countries.
00:10:22.720 BRICS, five.
00:10:23.460 Total population, NATO, 954 million.
00:10:26.080 That's 13% of the world population.
00:10:28.060 Look at BRICS. 0.70
00:10:28.700 3.21.
00:10:30.940 45% of the world population with only five countries compared to 31.
00:10:35.460 GDP, 45% of world GDP.
00:10:38.540 BRICS, 31.5%.
00:10:40.200 So smaller.
00:10:41.260 Big economies.
00:10:42.060 U.S., Germany, France, U.K., Poland.
00:10:44.320 BRICS, China, India, Brazil.
00:10:46.460 Who do you not want to piss off?
00:10:48.760 Do you not want to piss off BRICS? 1.00
00:10:50.300 So you may say, well, Pat, I'm not understanding where you're going with this.
00:10:53.400 Are you saying we are for strengthening Ukraine?
00:10:57.920 Are we now, what direction are we going with this?
00:11:00.300 Here's all I'm saying to you.
00:11:01.520 One can be paranoid about the fact that NATO wants us to send all the money because we have a big economy.
00:11:06.180 Don't worry about it.
00:11:06.760 You guys can't afford it.
00:11:07.540 You're rich.
00:11:08.740 You're like the rich family and all your cousins.
00:11:10.960 When you go out, they want you to pay for everything.
00:11:12.680 They're annoying.
00:11:13.840 What do you think about people like that that want you to pay for everything because you're rich?
00:11:16.720 That's how they look at America.
00:11:17.800 But one may say, listen, China, Russia, those guys see themselves as an equal to you.
00:11:25.040 You don't want to kind of forget about those guys.
00:11:27.540 That's a real threat.
00:11:28.740 That's not necessarily a best friend of ours, right, for us to sit there and be like, yeah, totally fine.
00:11:33.940 I think we should stay paranoid with everybody and kind of watch our money because we're kind of going into a lot of debt right now.
00:11:39.320 Fair argument.
00:11:40.180 But the idea is to watch for everyone's way that they're hurting the country that matters to you and I the most.
00:11:47.000 If you live in America, that's who matters to me the most and that's what ought to matter to you also the most.
00:11:51.860 So let's answer a few different questions here.
00:11:53.440 Number one, is NATO preventing World War III from happening?
00:11:56.940 Some can make a strong argument that NATO's encroachment on Russia is a leading cause of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
00:12:03.060 Those in favor of NATO might argue that the NATO policy is an attack against one, is an attack against all, is an effective determinant to Russia's aggression against surrounding countries.
00:12:13.000 Somebody said, you know what, Russia's not going to want to attack one of these guys because we all have to attack Russia.
00:12:17.060 I said, like, you know, we're just not going to do anything.
00:12:18.360 We're going to leave it alone.
00:12:19.100 Maybe it's working.
00:12:19.740 Maybe it's not.
00:12:20.660 But both arguments have a good point.
00:12:22.360 The other question, what would World War III look like?
00:12:25.040 If nuclear missiles were launched, 70% of the world would be killed pretty much instantly.
00:12:32.220 So in a non-nuclear, U.S. is not really a threat for many different reasons.
00:12:35.960 One of the reasons is we've got two big oceans between us and Russia and China.
00:12:38.860 Let's take a look at this here together, ranking U.S., according to globalfirepower.com.
00:12:44.540 It puts U.S. ranking number one, and then Russia number two and China three.
00:12:48.820 If you look at U.S. versus Russia, here's a comparison.
00:12:51.680 You'll see how they have it broken down.
00:12:53.200 Manpower, they gave it to Russia. 0.83
00:12:54.960 Airpower, us.
00:12:56.460 Land power, naval power, natural resources, financials, it's Russia. 0.61
00:13:00.740 Logistics, geography goes to us.
00:13:02.860 But this doesn't tell the whole story.
00:13:04.660 I'll give you here in a minute some other numbers here with, you know, destroyers and aircraft carriers and hello carriers.
00:13:10.000 We'll go into that here in a minute.
00:13:11.080 Let's look at U.S. versus China.
00:13:13.020 China being ranked number three.
00:13:14.860 Manpower, obviously, China. 0.98
00:13:16.600 Air power, us.
00:13:17.860 Land power, naval, China.
00:13:20.240 Natural resources, us.
00:13:21.820 Financials, them.
00:13:22.580 Logistics, geography, us.
00:13:24.080 But if you look at the top countries with destroyers, okay, you would see us at number one with 92.
00:13:29.780 China at 50. 0.92
00:13:30.560 Japan, 36.
00:13:31.400 Russia's at 15.
00:13:32.280 Even if you combine China and Russia together, they're at 65.
00:13:35.800 We're at 92.
00:13:37.100 After Russia, it's South Korea, India, France, U.K., Mexico.
00:13:41.400 And if we look at aircraft carriers, total in the world, there's an estimated 46.
00:13:46.700 Of the 46, 20 are ours.
00:13:50.160 France has got four.
00:13:52.000 Japan's got four.
00:13:53.620 China's got only three.
00:13:55.320 Italy, two.
00:13:56.200 U.K., two.
00:13:56.960 Australia, two.
00:13:57.780 Egypt, two.
00:13:58.960 South Korea, two.
00:13:59.820 Then India won, Russia won, Brazil won, Spain won, Thailand won.
00:14:04.320 Meaning, of the 46, U.S. almost has half of the entire fleet.
00:14:10.600 So, in a non-nuclear war, U.S. is fine. 0.76
00:14:13.880 In a nuclear war, 70% of the world is gone.
00:14:15.940 We don't have to worry about that part.
00:14:17.500 But if we can't figure out a way to prevent a nuclear war from happening, it's probably a good idea. 0.97
00:14:22.620 Don't you think?
00:14:23.100 So, in closing, final thoughts here.
00:14:24.720 So, between NATO, BRICS, all this stuff we're talking about, Pat, you know, what do you think about these things here?
00:14:30.180 Well, first of all, NATO, like, who in NATO hates us?
00:14:33.200 Think about NATO.
00:14:34.760 Like, most of it is Europe, right? 0.75
00:14:36.440 Who in NATO hates us?
00:14:38.140 They may look at us and say, ah, you know, these guys are such capitalists.
00:14:41.900 Or they care about us money.
00:14:43.720 You guys are not living your life. 1.00
00:14:45.300 You are selfish people, Americans. 1.00
00:14:47.100 They don't hate us. 0.99
00:14:48.340 They don't like us, right?
00:14:49.720 But, if you think about it, like, when you go to Europe and some restaurants and they say you're from America, ah, you're American.
00:14:55.900 You work very hard.
00:14:57.400 You have no life.
00:14:58.420 You chase the money.
00:14:59.940 We have family.
00:15:01.380 We have tradition.
00:15:02.980 We have fashion.
00:15:03.800 Like, they look at us in a different way.
00:15:05.400 Now, when you think about BRICS, China, Russia, if you add Iran as part of China's deal, I know the I stands for India, not Iran.
00:15:15.760 They don't like us.
00:15:17.580 Some may even say they hate us.
00:15:18.740 I lived in Iran 10 years.
00:15:20.300 They do not like America.
00:15:21.520 They hate America.
00:15:22.940 So, imagine you got a billionaire who's your enemy, but he doesn't really care for you much, okay?
00:15:29.380 But you have somebody that works a regular job, but they hate you.
00:15:33.940 They're envious of you.
00:15:35.560 Who has more power?
00:15:36.920 This one's got more resources than this one.
00:15:39.140 But what does this one have?
00:15:40.300 This one's a true believer that's patient.
00:15:42.220 And is going to be patiently waiting until they get their opportunity to seek vengeance against those they envy and those they hate.
00:15:51.640 They feel that way towards us.
00:15:53.960 Of course, we have to make sure to tame them and keep them calm and at least some kind of a relationship. 0.98
00:16:00.580 They're going to figure out a way to do business together.
00:16:02.560 But they're not sitting around saying, oh, you know, let America get as big as they want.
00:16:06.480 No, no, no.
00:16:06.980 FDR said something once, years ago.
00:16:10.400 Roosevelt, he said the following.
00:16:12.720 He said, in politics, nothing happens by accident.
00:16:15.980 If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
00:16:20.820 Nothing happens by accident.
00:16:22.320 So, COVID wasn't an accident?
00:16:23.880 The whole world shut down for about a year, year and a half, two years?
00:16:27.160 So, that was intentional?
00:16:28.440 FDR said that?
00:16:29.820 Isn't that the Democrats' favorite president of all time?
00:16:31.840 It's kind of a weird thing to say, right?
00:16:33.460 Huh.
00:16:34.400 So, maybe some of these things are planned?
00:16:36.840 So, China, Russia may not have access to the destroyers or the ships or the aircraft carriers that we have,
00:16:43.460 but they are training on biowarfare and cyberwarfare.
00:16:47.380 That's not on a leader's bulletin.
00:16:48.760 How do we measure that?
00:16:49.560 We don't have a way of measuring that.
00:16:51.360 So, my whole purpose of saying this to you is,
00:16:54.060 I think it's best we, as Americans, stay paranoid with anybody
00:16:58.740 whose number one priority in their lives is not America.
00:17:02.520 And we keep America as number one priority over Ukraine, over relationship with Russia or China or any of that.
00:17:11.980 Let's lead with America first and then comes everybody else instead of trying to solve everyone's problems 0.94
00:17:18.260 and create unnecessary enemies, especially waking some of them up that we're cornering them to make a point
00:17:23.940 or else we're publicly humiliating them.
00:17:27.000 It's that kind of situation that could lead to a nuclear war.
00:17:30.040 Nobody wants that.
00:17:31.260 We'd like to figure out a way to avoid that.
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