Valuetainment - March 25, 2026


“NEVER Have A Nuclear Weapon” - Trump UNVEILS 15-Point Plan To FORCE Iran Ceasefire


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Trump says Iran has agreed to a key part of his plan to end the war in the Middle East. What does this mean and what does it mean for the future of peace in the region? Plus, Iran's foreign minister responds to this.

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00:00:15.020 Story that comes out, U.S. sends 15-point plan to end war with Iran as Trump says the regime has agreed to scrap the nuclear program.
00:00:27.260 Okay, so let's read through this.
00:00:30.000 The U.S. has sent a 15-point plan and cease proposal to end the war in the Middle East,
00:00:33.840 and President Trump claims the regime has already agreed to a critical part of the peace, no nuclear weapons.
00:00:38.120 They've agreed, Trump said Tuesday, of its biggest demand.
00:00:41.520 Rob, is this the president speaking?
00:00:43.380 Yes, sir.
00:00:43.800 Go for it.
00:00:45.620 What do you think was the turning point to make you want to pursue a ceasefire?
00:00:49.440 A few days ago, you said you wanted to continue bombing Iran.
00:00:53.540 Now you want to pursue peace talks.
00:00:55.120 Was there something that happened?
00:00:56.100 That they're talking to us, and they're talking since.
00:00:59.460 And remember, it all starts with they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:02.860 Just, you know, I said yesterday, they said, what are the top ten?
00:01:06.440 I said, well, number one, two, and three is they can't have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:11.300 And they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:13.960 And we're talking about that.
00:01:15.020 I don't want to say in advance, but they've agreed they will never have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:20.160 They've agreed to that.
00:01:21.480 Okay, so that's what the president is saying.
00:01:23.200 This is the 15 points.
00:01:24.100 Iran must dismantle existing nuclear program.
00:01:26.380 That's number one.
00:01:27.500 Number two, Iran must commit never to pursue nuclear weapons.
00:01:31.000 It's the same as number one, but it's like we're never going to have it.
00:01:33.260 Number three, no uranium enrichment on Iranian territory.
00:01:37.220 They're all the same thing, but again, that's number three.
00:01:39.200 Number four, Iran must hand its stockpile of enriched uranium
00:01:43.080 to the International Atomic Energy Agency.
00:01:46.380 Four, four, four, same topic.
00:01:48.320 Five, the Natanz, Esfahan, and Fordon nuclear facilities must be dismantled.
00:01:52.840 What does that mean?
00:01:54.100 The IAEA must be granted full access to Iran's nuclear facilities.
00:01:58.280 Great.
00:01:59.540 Iran must abandon its regional proxy paradigm. 0.82
00:02:02.920 Eight, Iran must seize the funding directing and arming its proxies. 0.67
00:02:07.000 Nine, the Strait of Hormuz must remain open.
00:02:09.520 Ten, Iran's missile program must be limited in both range and quantity.
00:02:14.160 Eleven, Iran must limit its use of missiles to self-defense.
00:02:18.440 In return, Iran would benefit from, third 12, the end of sanctions imposed by the international community, the U.S. assistant to advance its civilian nuclear program, and U.S. snapback mechanism allowing for automatic reimposition of sanctions if Iran fails to comply would be removed.
00:02:38.080 Now, this is what they said.
00:02:39.040 Rob, do we have anything of them responding to this?
00:02:41.560 Because I think that was also what the Iranian foreign minister responded to this as well.
00:02:45.200 Tom, I'll come to you first and then Barry next.
00:02:47.140 Tom, your thoughts on this?
00:02:48.440 Well, there's basically four points to it.
00:02:50.140 When you see 15, Pat was very correctly pointing out in those top six.
00:02:54.360 So you have A, nuclear program, uranium, manufacturing facilities, that's A.
00:03:00.780 B, Hamas and Hezbollah. 0.81
00:03:03.000 You must stop funding them.
00:03:04.480 C, you can build missiles but only little ones to defend your borders.
00:03:09.000 And then D, the sanctions go away.
00:03:10.860 So it's nukes, Hamas, missiles, and sanctions.
00:03:14.320 And that's a 15 point which you get down to it.
00:03:17.400 Now, you know, what's what's interesting about this is, you know, they are so dedicated to it.
00:03:24.860 They tried previously to get them to agree a nuclear program.
00:03:28.580 They didn't do it. You know, this when I when I see this, I hope we get some progress on it.
00:03:34.200 I hope there's a negotiation. I hope that all the destruction of so much infrastructure and things that we've gone after is sending a message message that gets them over the line.
00:03:43.380 But this is only part of it for me. The other part for me here is who are they negotiating with?
00:03:48.760 Who's going to sign the paper? The current regime.
00:03:52.140 What happened about a new regime that would bring the people back to the glory of Iran and all the people that were protesting in the streets and the ones that were slaughtered for something?
00:04:03.180 Pat, who signs this? If the current regime signs it, OK, so what? The war's over. But now don't we go back to the people?
00:04:10.040 Yeah, I mean, the question then becomes, so it's neither a regime change or a regime collapse.
00:04:15.580 So which one was it?
00:04:16.980 Correct.
00:04:17.440 But now the current regime is going to sign a document.
00:04:20.100 Of course.
00:04:20.700 So guess what?
00:04:21.380 You're in charge.
00:04:21.940 What was accomplished?
00:04:24.300 For the people that are now in the—first of all, what do you think the IRGC does minutes after this gets signed if it's the same regime?
00:04:33.000 Oh, they're going to go back.
00:04:34.520 No, we have Pride Month.
00:04:36.480 They're going to have Headbashing Month.
00:04:38.500 You know, it's terrible.
00:04:39.560 Yeah, that won't be changing.
00:04:40.560 That won't be changing.
00:04:41.280 Barry, where are you at with this?
00:04:42.980 So, look, you're right, Tom, clearly.
00:04:45.660 But what we would accomplish is the three important things.
00:04:49.480 If we could stop the money flow to Hamas, Hezbollah, you know, Houthis,
00:04:53.960 if we could do that, that's a very big plus for us.
00:04:57.180 If we can keep oil flow through the Strait of Hormuz
00:04:59.700 without it being a future threat that it would be shut down,
00:05:03.140 that's great for us.
00:05:04.120 That's great for worldwide economy.
00:05:05.660 economy and i think the stock market's kind of reacting to that this morning and of course the
00:05:11.020 several points on the no nukes that you mentioned um the thing i worry about is compliance because
00:05:16.740 we've heard this from them before so i don't know how they would get around um having iran
00:05:23.260 potentially do something that uh that's sneaky you know if if that could be contemplated then i
00:05:30.940 think that the give on the side of the u.s is saying hey in in lieu of boots on the ground in
00:05:37.900 lieu of loss of life in lieu of further economic harm um we have to leave the current regime in
00:05:44.020 place i think that that's you know when you sum it up and tom did an excellent job as well i think
00:05:48.280 when you sum it up uh that's the give that we that is being thought of to say okay if we can
00:05:54.380 accomplish these things that's pretty good progress we don't get everything but it's pretty
00:05:58.080 good progress. Brandon? Yeah, I mean, at this point, I think if we make peace with them with
00:06:03.940 this current, whatever you call it, regime right now, whoever's leading things, I think that's a
00:06:08.200 worse situation than before. And I mean, if we do happen to make a peace deal with them, the most
00:06:12.100 important thing is that they actually agree to let us inspect their facilities thoroughly. Because
00:06:16.140 if you guys remember the Iran nuclear deal that Obama made, it was essentially we give Iran a ton 0.60
00:06:20.540 of money, billions and billions of dollars in return for them promising not to develop nuclear
00:06:24.900 weapons i think they were supposed to cap uranium enrichment like three percent so but they never
00:06:29.480 let us inspect it so they were doing all the things they weren't supposed to do we weren't
00:06:33.320 holding them accountable for the inspections so that's why they have things like the missiles that
00:06:37.220 we that go much farther than we thought um i don't necessarily think that they have enriched uranium
00:06:41.340 to the degree that people are saying i'm using it as the grounds to do this invasion but they could
00:06:46.520 they could have all kinds of things we don't know about because we didn't hold them accountable with
00:06:49.300 the inspection so um i think at this point with how far we've gone i think you go harder and go
00:06:54.380 more savage with them and, you know, just get it over with, because it's going to be a worse
00:06:58.140 situation. Like, why are we delaying the inevitable? They're not going to stop giving money to the
00:07:00.920 terrorist groups. They're not going to stop trying to have a nuclear weapon, because look how much
00:07:03.900 we leave North Korea alone. Now they have nuclear weapons. So they're trying to follow that model. 0.97
00:07:08.420 Yeah. And by the way, Rob, if you want to play this clip, because the foreign minister,
00:07:11.880 Arachie, said a complete different thing. This is just a couple of days ago. Go ahead, Rob.
00:07:15.580 I don't think the question of talking with Americans or negotiation with Americans,
00:07:23.000 once again would be on the table because, you know, we have a very, you know, bitter experience
00:07:30.920 of talking with Americans. We negotiated with them last year in last June, and they attacked 1.00
00:07:36.580 us in the middle of negotiations. And again this year, they tried to convince us that this time
00:07:41.860 is different. They promised us that they don't have any intention to attack us. So, and they
00:07:47.300 wanted to resolve Iran's nuclear question peacefully and to find a
00:07:52.480 negotiated solution, and we finally accepted. But again, after three rounds of
00:07:57.080 negotiation and after the American team in the negotiation, you know, said itself
00:08:05.060 that we made a big progress, still they decided to attack us. So I don't think,
00:08:10.940 you know, talking with Americans anymore would be, you know, on our agenda anymore.
00:08:17.840 By the way, his ask, number one, full lifting of sanctions,
00:08:21.520 which is one of the things they're talking about,
00:08:22.780 that's their number one priority, removal of U.S. military presence in the region,
00:08:26.940 meaning closure of U.S. bases in the Gulf.
00:08:30.560 That's what their ask is.
00:08:31.940 No way.
00:08:32.680 I mean, who's going to be doing that?
00:08:34.220 Then reparations, which is, yeah, you've got to pay for all the stuff that happens.
00:08:38.100 Control of revenue from Strait of Hormuz, ability to change or control shipping flow,
00:08:42.720 keep the missile program, right to nuclear capability,
00:08:46.340 security guarantees that U.S. won't attack again, 0.68
00:08:49.240 respect recognition of regional power,
00:08:51.080 acknowledge our role in the Middle East.
00:08:53.020 That's what they're asking for.
00:08:53.900 They're not going to get that.
00:08:55.460 And here's the other side of it,
00:08:57.160 is that by the time this five-day pause in attacks ends,
00:09:04.760 the U.S. will be in a position militarily
00:09:06.440 because troops would have arrived there.
00:09:07.960 So, you know, Trump is always very good
00:09:10.200 at kind of talking one way or having one way
00:09:12.720 and then using the element of surprise to our advantage.
00:09:15.520 So I wonder, is that another repeat of that
00:09:19.120 if we are positioning ourselves, buying some time for that,
00:09:23.020 and then, as Brandon said, maybe going in a little bit more,
00:09:26.160 to use his word, a little bit more savage?
00:09:27.980 I mean, we really don't know, but that is a possibility.
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