California's $20 fast food minimum wage has led to a decline in fast food jobs. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? And why is California the only state in the US that has a $20 minimum wage?
00:00:23.960Well, before you try to be California with this $20 an hour minimum wage idea, watch these numbers closely.
00:00:32.540The $20 fast food minimum wage led to 18,000 fewer jobs.
00:00:38.140A National Bureau of Economic Research paper reported that California's $20 an hour minimum wage enacted in September of 2023, effective in April of 2024, led to 2.7% employment decline.
00:00:52.300That's a big number in the fast food sector compared to other U.S. regions with a median estimate of 18,000 jobs lost relative to counterfactual.
00:01:03.120Adjusting for pre-AB-1228 trends, the decline increases to 3.2%.
00:01:09.660The Employment Policies Institute estimated non-tipped restaurant workers lost 250 hours annually, equating to $4,000 in lost income or seven weeks of work per employee.
00:01:22.080California Globe reported that thousands of fast food jobs were shed in anticipation of higher costs, including 1,200 drivers just at Pizza Hut.
00:01:31.460Now, holy moly, after the law took effect, restaurant automated to avoid higher wages with some closing entirely.
00:01:40.720Stanford University data indicated over 10,000 fast food jobs were lost by June of 2024, two years ago.
00:01:47.160Despite the governor's office claimed job increase, a claim contradicted by federal data by the fall, California Gavin Newsom signed and defended the minimum wage law.
00:01:57.440Well, Tom, so guess what? Cause, meat effect. So I take you back to New York City.
00:02:03.620Was it Michael Bloomberg that said fast food workers in New York City were going to get like 15 bucks an hour?
00:02:08.480This goes back, Rob, this goes back a little while, several years. We could find it really, really, really fast.
00:02:13.760So Michael Bloomberg comes out and says, OK, minimum wage has to go up in New York and we have to go up for fast food workers.
00:02:18.980You know, fast food workers have to get a minimum, a living wage. Really? 16-year-old kid flipping burgers part-time after school needs by law to have a living wage?
00:02:28.820Are you kidding me? So anyway, guess what that led to? Kiosks. Kiosks.
00:02:35.380So suddenly you went into McDonald's. You ever been to McDonald's?
00:02:55.040This is easier. I like this. So guess what's happened? California puts in this.
00:03:00.160And guess what? You have cause and effect. Combination of Pizza Hut, some of them said we can't even operate.
00:03:05.100So Group 1, Pizza Hut, we can't even operate. We're closing some of them.
00:03:08.420And we also, and thanks to crime in Oakland, everyone closed all of them, right?
00:03:13.540Then you would now have all of these other people where the decision in New York that led to the kiosks getting into McDonald's,
00:03:24.360this accelerates adoption of kiosks. This accelerates automated food handling back on the grill.
00:03:32.000That's what this does. Because capitalists go, if I'm going to be forced to take these workers and go to 20 bucks, I'm not, my cost structures aren't made for that.
00:03:44.060And by the way, if property taxes are going on, what is that Pizza Hut sitting on?
00:03:48.600California dirt that has California property tax.
00:03:51.840So you start adding it all up, and suddenly, if you're just looking for votes, you put the $20 minimum wage out there.
00:03:59.840But if you're looking for burgers, that's not what you want to do.
00:04:02.600Because pretty soon, burgers are harder to find because they're closing.
00:04:31.620But the kiosk accelerated in McDonald's after New York came out and said this because capitalists look, hey, man, I'm not trying to run these kids out of my McDonald's.
00:04:42.260Whatever is the best, most cost-effective way to get burgers to the person standing there with their $10 bill, I want to do it.
00:04:49.220And if you're going to make me do minimum wage here, then I'm going to look at it and say, well, the airline's putting kiosks.
00:05:20.180Gavin Newsom is reduced, and he'll come out, take credit, to healthier California because I've been slowly eradicating the scourge that is fast food on our diets.
00:05:35.480This is a discussion, I think, that gets people very riled up and emotional because this is one of those issues where emotionally I was like, pay these people more.
00:05:44.240Years ago, when I first started doing all the Save That Money content, I went down to downtown Miami.
00:05:50.940There was a Fight for 15 parade, basically, about fighting for 15.
00:05:56.500Now it's interesting the conversation has shifted to the Fight for 20.
00:06:00.220And I felt so bad for these fast food workers.
00:06:03.480They're the people that work at the airports.
00:06:05.100They're the people that work, you know, sort of the medial jobs that nobody wants to do.
00:06:10.280But interestingly enough, this is what Pat always talks about, not a lot of them spoke English.
00:06:15.960I didn't see a lot of them who were looking to improve or basically saying, I'm trying to do better in my life.
00:06:20.120They just said, pay me more, pay me more, pay me more.
00:06:22.840So on the surface, you're like, oh, okay, I feel bad for these people.
00:06:25.800But when you peel back the onion, you peel back the layers, and you actually look at it from the small business perspective, which I appreciate.
00:06:32.200I've learned so much sitting next to PBD.
00:06:34.460You realize this, all these raises are just going to get passed on to the consumer as a tax, basically.
00:06:43.380So your hamburger is going to cost more.
00:06:46.860Prices to basically go out and eat at restaurants are going to cost more.
00:06:50.400The small business owner will probably cut staff or cut hours, reduce hours.
00:08:33.140If you want minimum wage to increase and you're making the argument about it being unfair, how are you recreating yourself and improving yourself?
00:08:40.640What new skill set are you picking up?