Valuetainment - March 20, 2026


“No Desire For Revenge?” - Joey Merlino SHUTS DOWN Retaliation Rumors After Mikey Chang Mob Hit


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

185.94623

Word Count

2,573

Sentence Count

194

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

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The story of a man who does not want to seek revenge on the man who killed his best friend, the one and only Michael Cangolini. The story of how a guy who is feared, loved, and respected has no desire to seek vengeance on the guy that killed his brother.

Transcript

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00:01:00.080 Was Michael like a brother to you?
00:01:01.780 Yeah, Michael, yeah.
00:01:02.540 Okay.
00:01:03.180 So is it true that the war that happened, mob wars that happened in the 80s, whatever the year was, could have been 80s, 90s,
00:01:10.360 when it happened, his brother, Joey, who went and sided with Stamfa, who was the boss that they sent from Sicily,
00:01:21.740 he came to try to bring the business back to the old ways of just making money and that's all they were doing.
00:01:27.080 and Joey, the brother, killed Michael.
00:01:31.880 Is that a true story in your eyes?
00:01:34.220 I have no idea.
00:01:34.780 You have no idea?
00:01:35.320 No idea.
00:01:35.800 Okay.
00:01:36.340 I know me and Michael were walking down the street, a drive-by.
00:01:39.680 I got shot, and he got shot one time and died.
00:01:43.040 You got shot four times?
00:01:44.500 No, twice in the ass.
00:01:46.240 He shot you twice in the ass?
00:01:47.380 Yeah.
00:01:48.460 That's a tough way to kill somebody.
00:01:50.360 He should have never got hit.
00:01:52.840 Oh, he got hit because he raised his arm?
00:01:54.480 He put his arm up.
00:01:55.200 Oh, got it.
00:01:55.800 If his arm was down, I guess, you know, he was big.
00:01:57.560 He would have made it.
00:01:58.120 It went on there here.
00:01:58.820 You're on there.
00:01:59.100 Got it.
00:01:59.580 And it only got shot one time.
00:02:01.200 But you don't know who killed him?
00:02:02.500 No.
00:02:03.940 No idea?
00:02:04.720 No idea.
00:02:05.440 Do you never want her to seek vengeance and find out who did?
00:02:07.980 No.
00:02:09.620 No.
00:02:13.100 Not at all.
00:02:15.020 Joey.
00:02:15.380 What are you laughing about?
00:02:16.680 You're so funny, Joey.
00:02:18.660 It's the truth.
00:02:19.240 Okay.
00:02:19.900 Well, listen.
00:02:20.760 I respect it.
00:02:22.100 I'm trying to see because your birthday just happened, right?
00:02:24.460 You just had a birthday a couple days ago.
00:02:25.720 13.
00:02:26.040 Yeah.
00:02:26.480 Happy birthday to you.
00:02:27.220 Thank you.
00:02:29.960 A guy who is feared, loved, and respected has no desire to want to seek vengeance on the guy that killed his best friend, his brother.
00:02:37.060 How do you become that noble, that peaceful?
00:02:40.060 Peace.
00:02:40.920 That's it.
00:02:41.540 That's just the way I am.
00:02:42.960 No desire to want to have somebody that took at them.
00:02:45.340 This is a code.
00:02:46.060 I don't even know who did it.
00:02:47.620 I mean, everything ties back to his brother that killed Michael, your right-hand guy, your best friend.
00:02:55.720 Right.
00:02:56.480 And you had no desire to want to go back and take that guy out?
00:02:59.020 No.
00:03:00.260 Okay.
00:03:01.020 So, obviously, the revenge ends up happening.
00:03:05.520 And I think you're at the funeral of Michael.
00:03:12.420 And at the funeral, cameras on you, zooming in on you,
00:03:16.200 and everyone's trying to size you up to say, you know, Stanford's winning,
00:03:20.940 you know, the war, and, you know, these young guys that are coming up,
00:03:24.140 who do they think they are?
00:03:24.940 Joey Merlino is now afraid, and he's afraid of Stanford now,
00:03:28.140 and zoom in and zoom in and zoom in and even closer on your eyes.
00:03:32.500 And then a report asks you a question.
00:03:35.360 I don't know what the question was, but you told him to F off.
00:03:37.940 Like, you really had no desire to want to talk to anybody.
00:03:40.220 What were you thinking in that moment at the funeral?
00:03:43.580 Nothing.
00:03:44.000 Just mourning our friend, you know, worry about his family.
00:03:47.240 He had three kids.
00:03:49.060 No desire for vengeance?
00:03:50.680 No.
00:03:51.840 So if your father is the father that I think he is, my assumption,
00:03:57.520 if he said, you know, shake someone's hands, you know, be respectful.
00:04:03.920 If you don't, you're going to get a whooping.
00:04:05.940 Yeah, this is the clip, Rob.
00:04:06.720 Can you play this?
00:04:07.320 Is this video?
00:04:07.980 Do we have this or no?
00:04:09.340 Can you turn the audio so I can hear it?
00:04:10.940 Go for it.
00:04:13.220 Morning's viewing and funeral for Cangolini.
00:04:15.580 Merlino was not at all camera shy.
00:04:17.460 He stood in front of the funeral home as if to say, I'm still here.
00:04:21.500 They didn't get me.
00:04:22.840 Merlino has also maintained his bravado.
00:04:25.560 Listen to his response when we asked him to comment on the shooting.
00:04:30.120 This morning's viewing in...
00:04:31.800 Yeah.
00:04:32.300 Yeah, fuck you.
00:04:34.900 We're at a week.
00:04:37.140 And they got cameras at a week.
00:04:38.960 I mean, come on, show respect for the family.
00:04:41.840 Was that the case 24-7 with you?
00:04:43.360 Was cameras on your laptop?
00:04:44.220 Yeah, everywhere.
00:04:44.760 They had cameras everywhere we went.
00:04:45.920 Why did they want to record you?
00:04:47.160 I don't know. I don't know. Fucking news, fake news.
00:04:50.920 Look what they do to Trump. Same shit.
00:04:56.720 So for me, if we go back to, you know, with Pops.
00:05:00.720 But you have to go back to what you're saying about these shootings.
00:05:04.200 We were acquitted.
00:05:05.680 I know you were. I know you were.
00:05:07.560 But to me, if the DNA of what your father might,
00:05:10.980 what I'm understanding from the people in South Philly, what the code was,
00:05:15.480 If your father, the profile of your father,
00:05:20.020 I would say if anybody does anything to your brother,
00:05:22.840 you better make sure you get him by the end of the day.
00:05:25.380 Would that be a right assumption of something your father would tell you?
00:05:29.420 Yeah, I'd tell anybody that.
00:05:32.280 If me and you were at a bar and you're getting in a fight, I'm helping you.
00:05:35.640 They killed your best friend.
00:05:37.120 You're not doing anything?
00:05:38.100 No, we didn't do that.
00:05:39.220 I don't know who killed him.
00:05:40.140 We don't know who killed him.
00:05:42.940 I don't know.
00:05:45.300 Yeah.
00:05:47.380 Who was not Billy Vesey, because that's the older brother, right?
00:05:52.580 Was it John Vesey?
00:05:54.420 Am I saying it correctly?
00:05:55.220 Who was John Vesey?
00:05:56.300 I don't know.
00:05:56.780 I know him.
00:05:57.580 How long ago?
00:05:58.160 I've seen him three times in my life.
00:05:59.540 You've seen him three times in your life?
00:06:00.700 Yeah, I don't know.
00:06:01.080 Was it recent or back in the days?
00:06:02.080 No, back in the day.
00:06:03.240 How tough was he?
00:06:03.940 Was he a tough guy?
00:06:04.780 He was a junkie.
00:06:06.100 He was a junkie?
00:06:07.060 Yeah.
00:06:07.980 That's what he was.
00:06:08.680 Dope thing.
00:06:09.500 He never hung with us.
00:06:10.220 We never did drugs.
00:06:12.240 He was younger.
00:06:13.040 We didn't know him.
00:06:13.700 I didn't know from the neighborhood.
00:06:15.440 Was Billy more your age or was...
00:06:17.620 Billy was, yeah, maybe my age or a year or two younger.
00:06:22.600 Did you ever meet Billy or no?
00:06:23.660 Yeah, I knew Billy.
00:06:24.220 Was Billy an easygoing guy?
00:06:25.520 Yeah, he was a nice guy.
00:06:26.120 Nice guy, not a tough guy, not a street guy.
00:06:28.000 Yeah, no.
00:06:28.540 Yeah.
00:06:29.240 So Billy seemed like he wanted to do the right thing.
00:06:31.120 He was a good athlete.
00:06:32.140 Billy was a good athlete.
00:06:32.800 Yeah, he played basketball and all.
00:06:34.060 Yeah, he was good.
00:06:34.420 Right.
00:06:35.100 And then Johnny, in this picture, Johnny's the one on the right.
00:06:40.060 billy's got the tux on billy's got the tux on yeah so
00:06:46.500 johnny goes out there and i think johnny allegedly a little bit reckless he's going out there he has
00:06:54.920 no problem taking somebody out i think he got his mother died at 41 when he was 16 years old
00:06:59.920 and he never met his father they were all junkies right and they were dope fiends
00:07:04.680 both of them or he was not billy he was the mother the whole family oh the whole family
00:07:08.980 not billy though i don't think billy was so billy was a good kid yeah i think johnny's still around
00:07:13.180 so johnny uh allegedly got arrested 60 plus time before turning 18 so eventually he gets out when
00:07:19.720 he gets out they come up to him they give him a thousand dollars to take somebody out and he goes
00:07:23.160 out for ten thousand dollars and they burn up the car which the car was a leased car if i'm not
00:07:28.320 mistaken and he burns in the car fbi comes and says what are you doing the license plate is still
00:07:35.020 here goes back to the guy that leased the car they know who it is they go find him that's ties
00:07:39.140 to stanfa and they're like no you're tied to this and then eventually through him they realize he's
00:07:46.660 gonna flip and he's gonna go testify against uh the whole crew everybody johnny was and then that
00:07:56.400 day before he was gonna do that they took out his brother billy all this stuff adds up as all these
00:08:02.940 stories are kind of adding up or no yeah i know yeah okay i was in philly yeah i got charged with
00:08:07.640 it you got charged with it yeah and got acquitted and got acquitted i found not guilty of course
00:08:13.140 ralph natale lied what did ralph say ralph said you were behind it yeah me and my friends but we
00:08:18.980 got acquitted he said that after the murder we had a meeting at my grandmother's house 927 jackson
00:08:28.860 and um you know the bullshit the movie shit he hugged me kissed me it sounds good you know in
00:08:36.000 court but come the final he didn't realize and and the u.s attorneys in philly they believed
00:08:41.760 anything he said they never investigated this was 1995 i think it was or four 95 94
00:08:49.600 that we had a meeting in 927 jack street my grandmother's house my grandmother sold the
00:08:55.660 house three years prior to chinese people asian people it was impossible for us to be in that
00:09:01.880 house so we subpoenaed my we went my lawyer went got the deed to the house that the house was sold
00:09:08.180 three years prior and we called the asian guy i don't know what fuck he is he came on the stand
00:09:13.180 we had to get a translator he said it's impossible they were never in my house i don't even know them
00:09:17.780 i never seen them in my life and they could have never been in my house that day he lied the jury
00:09:23.460 he quit us in five minutes what did natali say his beef was you know when you guys were in
00:09:30.520 prison together he asked you hey take care of my family when i'm out they all got the same story
00:09:34.740 everyone they must give him a pamphlet when they flip when you get on the stand say this
00:09:39.120 they didn't give my fuck i gotta give his family money for i don't know him i lent his son-in-law
00:09:46.120 my motorcycle when i was in jail this is a true story i met him in jail i i like motorcycle i had
00:09:52.560 The Harley Davidson, brand new.
00:09:54.840 I get locked up.
00:09:56.720 I only got four years.
00:09:59.720 So I kept the bike.
00:10:01.260 You know, when I get out, when I ride, I love bikes.
00:10:04.540 He said to me, my son-in-law, Bobby, he loves bikes.
00:10:09.040 That's the bike.
00:10:10.260 No, that wasn't that one.
00:10:11.120 The one before I had that, that one.
00:10:14.300 He said he wants to go to bike week or something.
00:10:16.400 Something with fucking bike.
00:10:17.640 Could he borrow the bike for the weekend?
00:10:19.360 I said, yeah, take it.
00:10:20.300 Fuck, I ain't driving.
00:10:20.760 I'm in jail.
00:10:21.280 Can't drive it in the yard.
00:10:22.120 So I give him the bike.
00:10:23.880 That motherfucker sold it.
00:10:25.640 Stop it.
00:10:26.640 Kept the bike and sold it.
00:10:28.720 And still didn't pay me.
00:10:31.360 Brand new Harley Davidson.
00:10:32.980 Nice guy.
00:10:33.680 Same and his son-in-law.
00:10:35.840 Did you ever meet him again?
00:10:37.640 Did you ever see him again?
00:10:38.460 No, I never seen him.
00:10:39.660 No.
00:10:41.060 So when's the last time you saw Ralph?
00:10:42.560 Was it in jail?
00:10:43.860 No, in a witness stand.
00:10:45.220 In a witness stand.
00:10:46.280 What was that like when you saw him?
00:10:47.380 No.
00:10:48.440 He was the worst witness ever.
00:10:50.220 My lawyer destroyed him.
00:10:52.120 The jury said, if you could pull up the article.
00:10:54.920 It's embarrassing, yeah.
00:10:55.840 They said he was the worst.
00:10:56.820 How the fuck did they even bring him on a stand?
00:10:58.640 They didn't even believe him.
00:10:59.980 They didn't believe one.
00:11:01.060 They said, the jury said, we didn't believe one word he said.
00:11:03.180 Yeah, yeah.
00:11:04.680 But that's the government for you.
00:11:06.720 I got them all out of jail.
00:11:09.020 Pete the Crumb, another guy.
00:11:10.840 How?
00:11:13.980 Ralph, he was dead.
00:11:15.500 It was his third meth conviction.
00:11:19.120 It's life, life no pro, you never get out.
00:11:21.760 He testified against me, and they got to let him out.
00:11:24.340 He let his son Lowell out.
00:11:26.560 Pete the Crumb, he was dead.
00:11:28.540 He admitted that he said he don't know how many people he killed.
00:11:33.100 They dug up a social club.
00:11:35.300 There was three bodies.
00:11:36.880 He was dead.
00:11:37.680 He was getting, and his son was already in jail for drugs.
00:11:42.040 He's got 14 years with the state in Jersey.
00:11:44.800 He testified against me to let his son right out, and they let him out.
00:11:47.820 nice country right yeah i'm trying to think because to me you know if going back to
00:11:59.520 father would say if anybody does anything to your brother you know you have to you can't let the
00:12:05.460 market believe that they can touch you or the people on your crew right i mean in the street
00:12:11.740 court even in business there is no crew we just we're just friends i mean you just want to make
00:12:16.000 like it's this it's that i get that but even to us like in business joey if if in business uh
00:12:22.880 there's a there's a quote i'll read it to you maybe you'll like this quote and when i read this
00:12:28.240 quote it kind of reminds me of maybe the code you followed no friend ever served me and no enemy
00:12:36.880 ever wronged me whom i have had i have not repaid in full let me read it again no friend ever served
00:12:43.680 me and no enemy ever wronged me whom i have not repaid in full lucius cornelia sula self-written
00:12:52.740 epitaph so i see you as one of these guys i see as a guy it's if he's your friend he's 100% loyal
00:12:59.400 i have your back for the rest of your life but also see if you're an enemy you cross me you have
00:13:04.300 to worry about me for the rest of your life if you don't build that reputation you you know this
00:13:09.100 joe you know yeah i mean he killed my friend so they killed your your friend and you guys don't
00:13:15.780 retaliate nope and we got charged with it and we got to quit it yeah my name is joey merlino
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