Valuetainment - May 04, 2025


＂Not A Moment Of Peace＂ - J.B. Pritzker's ATTACK On Trump Sparks MAJOR Backlash


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On today's show, Adam and Rob are joined by political commentator Van Jones and former Minnesota Congressman and 2024 presidential candidate Dean Phillips to discuss the Democratic response to Governor J.B. Pritzker's comments on President Trump and Elon Musk.

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00:00:00.000 What's the last one you want to do?
00:00:01.460 Is there one you have very strong opinions on?
00:00:03.060 You want to do a serious one?
00:00:05.280 Give me a serious one.
00:00:07.020 Let's go to Van Jones.
00:00:08.080 Van Jones.
00:00:09.860 Dan's haven't figured out position beyond outrage at Trump.
00:00:15.460 Good for him for saying something like this.
00:00:17.580 Rob, is this a clip or a story?
00:00:19.760 So on Monday, CNN's Laura Coates live, CNN public commentator,
00:00:25.020 and former Obama advisor Van Jones said that Democrats have yet to figure out
00:00:28.760 what the proposition, what are the Democrats offering?
00:00:31.160 Besides outrage at Trump and Musk, Jones said, I applaud Governor Pritzker.
00:00:35.000 Is this it, Rob?
00:00:35.640 Yep.
00:00:36.000 Go for it.
00:00:36.980 Political commentator Van Jones is back with us now,
00:00:39.400 along with former Minnesota congressman and 2024 presidential candidate,
00:00:43.640 Dean Phillips.
00:00:44.900 Welcome back to both of you.
00:00:46.360 Dean, let me begin with you.
00:00:47.860 Is this, in your opinion, a realistic strategy from Governor Pritzker?
00:00:52.060 Oh, shit.
00:00:52.380 Okay, so this is going to be long.
00:00:54.100 All right, let me just wrap up this.
00:00:55.240 If you, Rob, you find it, I'm going to try to wrap up the rest of the stuff
00:00:57.920 I'm reading here.
00:00:58.960 He says, I applaud Governor Pritzker.
00:01:00.960 We do not, Rob, I can hear him.
00:01:02.380 Can you hear him?
00:01:03.020 Yeah.
00:01:03.400 I applaud Governor Pritzker.
00:01:04.980 We do not need to stand up, and we do not need people to try to raise the stakes.
00:01:08.420 Most people are sheeple.
00:01:09.940 They're going to look around and try to raise the stakes to figure out what they're
00:01:14.220 supposed to do.
00:01:14.840 And if everybody is kind of calm, wringing their hands, then most people won't move.
00:01:20.020 But you need two things.
00:01:21.220 You need a fire alarm, and you need a fire station.
00:01:23.380 A fire alarm is somebody that can raise the concern level in an appropriate way.
00:01:28.440 He added.
00:01:29.280 But we also need a fire station.
00:01:31.460 Who's going to put out the fire?
00:01:33.120 The opposition is important, but what's the opposition?
00:01:36.040 What are Democrats offering besides outrage at Donald Trump and Elon Musk that has to be
00:01:40.880 worked out?
00:01:41.500 Adam, thoughts?
00:01:42.520 Well, listen.
00:01:43.540 Sometimes I'm critical of Trump.
00:01:44.860 Sometimes I'm complimentary of Trump.
00:01:46.280 But the one thing you can't say about Trump is he is playing the game.
00:01:50.640 It's almost like Team Trump versus the Team Democrats.
00:01:54.220 And one team is playing the game, and the other team is just on the sidelines booing.
00:01:59.500 You're not going to win the game by booing at the other team.
00:02:03.760 And that's what the Democratic Party is at this point.
00:02:06.480 The boo!
00:02:07.420 Trump!
00:02:08.060 F Elon! 0.88
00:02:09.100 F Trump!
00:02:10.020 You suck!
00:02:10.940 What's going on?
00:02:11.600 Yeah, but you guys aren't running any plays whatsoever on the field.
00:02:16.400 So you got to give Trump credit.
00:02:18.200 He's out there.
00:02:19.000 He's going long.
00:02:20.060 He's taking chances.
00:02:21.200 He's moving the ball upfield.
00:02:22.540 Yes, sometimes he'll have some interceptions, some turnovers.
00:02:25.700 But you're just sitting there booing from the sidelines.
00:02:29.140 Like voters, aka the fans in this case, you got to give them a reason to cheer for your
00:02:36.000 team, not just boo at the other team.
00:02:38.900 And I feel like that's exactly what the Democratic Party is at this point.
00:02:42.140 Just booing at Trump, booing at Elon, but not actually in the game themselves running
00:02:48.860 any plays.
00:02:49.740 That's what I got to say.
00:02:50.480 Okay, and by the way, there's some Pritzker saying, calling out like fire.
00:02:53.520 Hey, we need to do this.
00:02:54.900 Is this the one, Rob?
00:02:55.780 Yep.
00:02:55.940 So here's a billionaire from Chicago that wants to become a president, and he's probably
00:02:59.580 a capable guy.
00:03:00.320 I think he's a top five guy.
00:03:02.060 That's going to be formidable.
00:03:03.300 And I think he'll be running in 2020.
00:03:04.740 Maybe not.
00:03:05.160 He'll be walking.
00:03:06.240 But he will be...
00:03:07.820 I don't know why you guys are...
00:03:11.000 He will be...
00:03:12.380 I'm not trying to be...
00:03:13.640 I'm just being very...
00:03:15.000 Rob, can you play the clip?
00:03:16.140 I didn't mean to do that to you guys.
00:03:17.320 I would never do that.
00:03:18.060 Come on.
00:03:18.400 Play the clip, Rob.
00:03:19.120 Go for it.
00:03:20.800 Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption.
00:03:27.900 But I am now.
00:03:42.820 These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
00:03:47.540 They have to understand.
00:03:49.120 That we will fight their cruelty with every megaphone and microphone that we have.
00:03:54.080 We must castigate them on the soapbox, and then punish them at the ballot box.
00:04:00.560 Punish them.
00:04:02.060 Soapbox and punish them at ballot box.
00:04:04.940 Do you know what that...
00:04:05.680 Did you hear what he said, though?
00:04:07.300 What's that?
00:04:08.100 Mobilize protesters, Trump Republicans.
00:04:09.960 They cannot know a moment of peace.
00:04:12.440 You know what that...
00:04:12.900 That's a dog whistle.
00:04:14.420 Just like when...
00:04:15.100 What's her name?
00:04:15.680 Maxine Waters was like, when you see these people get in their face,
00:04:19.100 and get in their face, don't let them rest.
00:04:21.140 That is the Democratic Party.
00:04:22.880 They're the party that wants to cause violence, and they want to push you to the limit so you
00:04:26.760 can fight back.
00:04:27.520 Okay?
00:04:28.500 Push it to the limit.
00:04:29.680 Well, no, but isn't that ridiculous, Tom?
00:04:31.100 It's like lighting a match and then blaming the fire on the wind.
00:04:35.060 Yeah, look.
00:04:36.140 Does the inflammatory statement surprise me with J.B.
00:04:39.520 Pritzker?
00:04:40.800 It's not a dog whistle.
00:04:42.380 When you hear him speak, the position is so easy to see.
00:04:46.420 Like on, you know, Google satellite maps of Chicago, Governor Pritzker is easy to see.
00:04:51.520 So I think you've got opportunities here to either be upset at this or to respect your opponent
00:04:59.540 and how they might be drafting.
00:05:01.360 I never, never, never pick on a last place team.
00:05:05.580 And I'll tell you why.
00:05:07.260 Because they're about to get draft picks that can change the game.
00:05:09.940 And I think that Van Jones is not just screaming at microphones.
00:05:14.300 He's being very methodical.
00:05:16.240 And people on his side are going to start listening to him.
00:05:19.000 He's saying, we need to find a measure.
00:05:21.500 We have not found the angle.
00:05:23.140 We have not found.
00:05:23.920 So you know what he's doing?
00:05:24.940 He's not screaming like Whoopi Goldberg.
00:05:27.000 He's not just repeating, you know, pablum to the masses on their side the way, you know,
00:05:32.460 Rachel Maddow is.
00:05:33.760 He is trying to find a strategy.
00:05:35.480 And I respect Van Jones for doing that, even as I disagree with Van Jones on his principles
00:05:40.280 and foundations.
00:05:41.420 And now you've got J.B. Pritzker is up there.
00:05:43.800 Where is he?
00:05:44.620 Where was he speaking?
00:05:45.740 In New Hampshire.
00:05:46.640 New Hampshire.
00:05:47.080 In New Hampshire.
00:05:47.760 Why is he speaking in New Hampshire?
00:05:49.280 First place to vote.
00:05:50.580 He's up there starting.
00:05:51.800 And so I respect the fact that they're out there trying to put it together.
00:05:56.220 And the slogans aren't going to do it.
00:05:57.760 We're going to stand on the soapbox.
00:05:59.500 We're going to punish them at the ballot box. 0.89
00:06:00.880 Oh, that's very nice.
00:06:01.680 That's a political, so that's a red meat line and everybody cheers.
00:06:04.840 And I said, but wait, what do we, what do we say when we're on the soapbox?
00:06:08.240 What do we do?
00:06:09.040 He left that out.
00:06:10.340 There's two pieces of bread and no meat.
00:06:11.800 That's when you talk to political strategists, they say that's what it is.
00:06:14.860 And it gets everybody to cheer and clap.
00:06:16.680 So you don't have to go police crap like Jed Bush.
00:06:18.500 It just goes.
00:06:19.580 And so that's what I think.
00:06:20.440 I respect what they're trying to do.
00:06:22.260 I think Pritzker is a more formidable candidate that people think on the core.
00:06:27.540 He's battle-tested.
00:06:28.380 He's wealthy.
00:06:29.120 He's tough.
00:06:29.600 He's strong.
00:06:30.320 He knows the game.
00:06:32.000 Like I always say, always say, listen, you campaign in poetry, but you govern in pros.
00:06:39.320 Mario Cuomo said that.
00:06:40.560 Oh, that's right.
00:06:41.120 Bill Maher quoted him yesterday.
00:06:42.600 Well, I'm just saying.
00:06:43.180 A couple days ago with Terrence Howard.
00:06:44.840 Don't try to own this quote that you're Mario Cuomo all of a sudden.
00:06:47.940 I'm just saying.
00:06:48.540 I'm giving a shout-out.
00:06:49.860 Giving a shout-out, PBD.
00:06:51.320 Oh, my goodness.
00:06:52.040 What I will say, I want to ask your opinion on J.B. Pritzker.
00:06:54.820 Because on one hand, by the way, I think he's losing weight.
00:06:56.840 I have a big opinion on him, but go ahead.
00:06:58.600 I think he's losing weight.
00:06:59.920 I think he looked at Chris Christie and said, I can't go out like that.
00:07:03.320 Yeah.
00:07:03.580 I got to literally lose 100 pounds because I got to get to 20, 28 without aiding somebody.
00:07:09.500 So this guy, he's a billionaire.
00:07:12.080 Yeah.
00:07:12.660 You know, he's got name recognition.
00:07:14.700 Yeah.
00:07:14.860 He's not some schmuck congressperson like AOC or the girl down in- 0.75
00:07:19.880 Neither is AOC, by the way.
00:07:21.320 Let me tell you.
00:07:21.920 She's a congressperson. 0.97
00:07:22.600 She's not a schmuck. 0.90
00:07:23.460 No, no.
00:07:24.140 AOC.
00:07:24.660 You're going to think AOC is not going to carry weight on 2020?
00:07:28.560 I'm not saying that she doesn't carry weight.
00:07:30.520 I'm saying this guy's a freaking governor.
00:07:33.160 AOC's a 10-time better marketer than him.
00:07:35.000 Okay.
00:07:35.180 She's a congresswoman from Woke Bronx.
00:07:39.320 She doesn't run a state. 0.99
00:07:40.540 She has zero pull whatsoever. 0.99
00:07:42.180 Just because she gets media views does not mean she knows how to govern. 0.94
00:07:45.700 Yeah.
00:07:45.960 Clearly.
00:07:46.680 Let me tell you.
00:07:47.140 However, I have respect for her on one angle.
00:07:49.780 Because I happen to think she's smarter than people think.
00:07:52.400 I don't think some of the things she says I agree with.
00:07:55.080 And I think sometimes she's missed the mark on what she wants to do.
00:07:58.020 But she went to Boston University.
00:07:59.960 She graduated with honors and was a double major.
00:08:02.820 And people try to portray her as this silly bartender. 1.00
00:08:06.380 That's not who she is.
00:08:07.560 I don't agree with her positions.
00:08:09.760 But I respect what she's doing.
00:08:11.760 And I respect that she's not going to work.
00:08:12.600 Which one of us is the Democrat here, Tom?
00:08:14.100 What's going on here, buddy?
00:08:15.140 No, but I mean, when you say comments like the world's going to end in six years.
00:08:18.720 I'm saying let's not be cocky before Super Bowl.
00:08:20.540 Let's understand the other side.
00:08:21.740 You called AOC a schmuck.
00:08:23.780 I'm simply saying that a governor carries more weight than a senator.
00:08:28.380 A senator carries more weight than a representative.
00:08:31.080 I'm giving him praise.
00:08:33.920 But what I'm saying is this.
00:08:35.440 Do you think he's a viable candidate in 2028?
00:08:37.620 I need that button, Rob.
00:08:40.000 I need that button to save my voice.
00:08:41.740 Do you know Pritzker is anti-Trump?
00:08:43.400 Do you think he's a viable candidate in 2028 is what I'm asking?
00:08:45.620 What's viable?
00:08:46.360 Top five?
00:08:46.860 Do you think he's a top three guy?
00:08:48.820 I think he's a top five guy.
00:08:50.100 Top five?
00:08:50.460 Okay.
00:08:51.460 By the way, you've got to let the market decide on how they're going to fight.
00:08:54.060 I don't know how they're going to fight.
00:08:54.760 I'm just saying he's a top five guy.
00:08:55.960 At the end of the day, end of the day, do you put him above or below AOC as a viable candidate?
00:09:02.620 Oof.
00:09:03.240 28?
00:09:04.180 Yeah.
00:09:05.260 It's a very good question you're asking.
00:09:07.120 I mean, if you hit the button, I couldn't have asked the question.
00:09:09.600 You know that.
00:09:11.020 No, you still haven't made a point, but it's a nice question.
00:09:15.160 Do you know?
00:09:15.560 Because Pritzker...
00:09:16.220 And let him answer the question, Vincent.
00:09:19.120 I don't know.
00:09:22.160 I mean, if you go to, like, when I think about somebody who's ran a business and ran a state,
00:09:28.660 governor is above Congress.
00:09:30.480 Yeah.
00:09:30.860 So I agree.
00:09:32.020 When I think about a marketer, somebody who has marketing down, I mean, who was Bobby Kennedy?
00:09:40.020 Well, he was a better marketer.
00:09:41.300 Big time.
00:09:41.860 Than a lot of the other guys.
00:09:42.840 Who was Vivek?
00:09:43.500 What was his experience?
00:09:44.600 True.
00:09:44.880 So to me, I give a lot of credit to AOC knowing how to make noise.
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