Valuetainment - November 15, 2025


“Number ONE Catastrophic Thing” - Trump’s $3T Tariff Faces Supreme Court SHOCK Decision


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

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196.23705

Word Count

2,903

Sentence Count

275

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Trump warns Supreme Court ruling could trigger $3 Trillion unwind. Rob and Tom break down what that means for the economy and what it could mean for the Supreme Court. They also discuss the impact on the economy if the ruling is overturned.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Trump warned Supreme Court tariff ruling could trigger $3 trillion unwind.
00:00:06.360 By the way, this would be the dumbest thing they ever do, okay, ever do.
00:00:12.180 If they pulled this off, it would be the dumbest thing that they could ever do if they passed this thing.
00:00:17.020 President issued a warning on Monday on Truth Social,
00:00:19.040 claiming that the U.S. Supreme Court received the wrong numbers and pending case
00:00:22.500 that challenges the authority to impose tariffs under emergency powers.
00:00:26.160 Trump said an adverse decision could lead to an economic unwind exceeding $3 trillion,
00:00:30.960 calling it an insurmountable national security event that would be devastating to the future of our country,
00:00:37.780 possibly non-sustainable.
00:00:39.060 The high court is set to review whether Trump's use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act
00:00:44.580 to levy tariffs on imported goods without the additional congressional approval was lawful.
00:00:50.100 A ruling against Trump could require the government to refund billions of dollars
00:00:53.980 in duties collected since 2024, potentially reshaping,
00:00:57.800 can you turn off your phone, guys,
00:00:59.160 U.S. trade policy and testing the limits of the presidential economic authority.
00:01:02.540 According to Treasury data reviewed by Fox Business,
00:01:05.380 the U.S. collected more than $213 billion in tariffs revenue through late September 2025,
00:01:10.980 including record monthly totals of more than $31 billion in August
00:01:14.780 and more than $31 billion in September.
00:01:17.260 Earlier in the year, revenues ranged from $17.4 billion to $29 billion in July.
00:01:21.860 Is this the president talking about it, Rob?
00:01:23.980 Yes. This is actually USA Today covering the story.
00:01:26.980 Go for it.
00:01:28.500 U.S. President Donald Trump is warning of an economic and national security disaster
00:01:32.900 if the Supreme Court overturns his use of emergency powers to impose sweeping tariffs on nearly every country.
00:01:39.160 Speaking Monday, Trump claimed the tariffs have generated trillions in tariff and investment income.
00:01:43.580 Trump had previously floated the idea of using tariff revenues to pay for what he calls a dividend
00:01:59.340 to lower-earning Americans and repeated his plans on Monday.
00:02:02.780 We're going to issue a dividend to our middle-income people and lower-income people of about $2,000,
00:02:11.020 and we're going to use the remaining tariffs to lower our debt.
00:02:14.680 During last week's role.
00:02:15.700 Pause it right there.
00:02:16.160 So, Tom, talking about these tariffs, one, we talked about this last week.
00:02:21.200 Can they do it?
00:02:22.100 Obviously, they have Supreme Court control right now, which is, what, 6-3?
00:02:25.920 Even if he loses, what's her name, Barrett, Coney Barrett, even if she goes against him, that's still 5-4,
00:02:34.740 so he has the control still.
00:02:36.800 But the reality of it is the fact that this is a topic of discussion they're discussing,
00:02:40.800 I have a few ideas here, but I'm going to go to you first.
00:02:43.180 Tom, go for it.
00:02:43.740 So, here's what I see.
00:02:45.400 Can you guys hear me?
00:02:46.140 Yes.
00:02:46.420 Oh, yeah.
00:02:46.740 Because I can't hear me.
00:02:48.860 Here's what I see.
00:02:50.100 The Supreme Court could come back and say, hey, you don't have the authority under IEPA,
00:02:55.300 the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
00:02:58.260 However, a good Congress would say, but are the tariffs working?
00:03:01.900 Did we get some negotiation?
00:03:03.320 Did we get some results here?
00:03:04.540 Hang on a second.
00:03:05.620 Let's keep this.
00:03:06.480 That's how a functioning, non-militant government would work, but that's not what we have right now.
00:03:12.400 We have a very militant Congress that has a huge block of Democrats that are like,
00:03:17.880 no matter what, get Trump out, hurt Trump, and they really don't care about the economy.
00:03:23.260 So, there is a group in there that unwinding it to create such economic calamity just to grab more
00:03:28.900 seats in power at the midterms coming up in 11 months and two weeks, they would do it.
00:03:36.180 But unwinding this would be horrible, and Trump's comment about unwinding it is true.
00:03:42.800 Companies have come back and said, hey, you know what?
00:03:45.200 Thanks to the tariffs, things have changed.
00:03:47.680 Economics have changed.
00:03:48.960 We're going to invent, just this year, it was $1.5 billion.
00:03:53.280 We're going to invest in the U.S. to bring jobs and stuff back.
00:03:56.940 Well, that's because of the tariffs and the other countries playing nice.
00:04:01.400 And if you unwind it, the other countries can go back and say, well, that was easy.
00:04:06.120 His own Congress just screwed him over, and they're using the Supreme Court decision.
00:04:10.760 So, guess what?
00:04:11.360 We can go back to playing like we used to under Biden.
00:04:14.500 That would be bad.
00:04:15.480 That would be really bad.
00:04:16.560 Not only would it be bad, you know, the amount of success we've had with this, to take it
00:04:22.840 back to we get only $80 billion of revenue every year from tariffs.
00:04:26.240 It's the income we got.
00:04:27.040 We didn't get a lot of revenue from tariffs.
00:04:28.360 Now we are at $300 billion in tariffs, potentially $400 billion trajectory, the way it's going.
00:04:33.920 And then it could lead into a half a trillion dollars per year.
00:04:37.000 Over 10 years could be $5 trillion of revenue coming in, not including all the other people
00:04:41.600 that are being forced to invest in.
00:04:42.800 That's the chart, which we've looked at many times.
00:04:44.820 But I will tell you what I think the president was doing.
00:04:47.300 The president was playing chess with these guys when he said, I'm going to give $2,000
00:04:53.960 income to the people that are low-income earners on the tariff side.
00:04:58.080 And you know what that does?
00:04:59.680 So imagine, he knows if it even gets close to them pushing for this not to happen, he's
00:05:05.620 going to go to the low-income and middle-income and say, they just took a couple thousand
00:05:09.380 dollars away from you.
00:05:10.280 That's yours.
00:05:11.520 They took that away from you.
00:05:12.600 All the taxes they did, they took that away from you.
00:05:14.980 And how do you feel about it?
00:05:16.120 So he's cornering them.
00:05:18.100 I'm 80%.
00:05:18.960 If I were to go to Calci and do a, what do you call it?
00:05:22.560 Whether this is-
00:05:23.160 Open a market and see what the public thinks?
00:05:24.520 If we were to go open up a market, open a market on what we think this is going to
00:05:30.280 do with tariffs passing or not, I would be very optimistic about going through, like
00:05:36.120 I said, it's the dumbest thing if they don't do this.
00:05:38.260 Brandon?
00:05:39.100 Yeah, this is the hill to die on.
00:05:40.620 And the law is a funny thing, the way that you interpret the law.
00:05:43.480 I don't even think that they have the grounds to do this because everybody's looking at
00:05:46.360 tariffs as an economic issue.
00:05:47.780 But no, it's a national security issue.
00:05:49.320 And that's what the Constitution says, that from an economic standpoint, it's in the power
00:05:54.440 of Congress to decide what happens with tariffs.
00:05:56.860 But if it's a matter of national security, then it's the president.
00:05:59.600 And every single thing he's doing with tariffs is a matter of national security.
00:06:03.540 It's not just the $300 billion that he's taken in.
00:06:05.920 It's the trillions that he's been able to negotiate and get people to invest.
00:06:09.600 And that's the main lever he's using for any-
00:06:11.720 What's the national security part?
00:06:12.780 So if we can't threaten countries with tariffs, we have to use another method.
00:06:18.320 And it might be a weaker method.
00:06:19.500 It might be a riskier, more dangerous method.
00:06:21.640 So you could really make anything about national security.
00:06:23.840 Think about all the things the CIA classifies under a matter of national security.
00:06:27.640 You know, a lot of things probably aren't even a matter of national security, but they
00:06:30.520 could say it because it's very vague and broad.
00:06:32.500 So I think that even if they did try to do this, you know, there was a president one
00:06:37.660 time that said, when the Supreme Court ruled against him, he's like, all right, let them
00:06:40.720 enforce it.
00:06:41.260 Go ahead.
00:06:42.180 You know, and it's not like the Roe v. Wade type of issue when the Democrats are mad about
00:06:45.820 that.
00:06:46.160 That's like a social issue.
00:06:47.160 But this one, it's like, let the court enforce it if they try to do this.
00:06:50.280 I don't think they will.
00:06:51.100 But if they do, I don't think he's going to listen to them.
00:06:53.880 And things like chips, rare earth, and magnets are national security.
00:06:57.500 I agree.
00:06:58.120 But this, to me, if it doesn't pass, it's number one catastrophic thing if it doesn't
00:07:06.700 pass.
00:07:07.020 If they stop him.
00:07:08.580 Oh.
00:07:09.640 I don't think you'd listen.
00:07:12.400 I don't think he can.
00:07:14.700 No.
00:07:14.940 How do they enforce it, though?
00:07:15.840 It's a court.
00:07:16.940 What do you mean how do they?
00:07:17.800 Supreme Court?
00:07:18.560 Do they have an army?
00:07:20.060 No, no, no.
00:07:20.660 You can't.
00:07:21.580 That's not how this works.
00:07:22.420 He won't do that.
00:07:23.220 He needs them.
00:07:23.780 He needs them.
00:07:24.460 Because the amount of credibility, if he didn't listen to them, 2028 is a lock.
00:07:30.760 Newsom's your president.
00:07:31.960 A matter of national security, though.
00:07:33.500 If I'm running against him, I'm going to tell him, the guy is completely against the
00:07:40.120 Constitution, has no respect for George Washington, no respect for Thomas Jefferson, no respect
00:07:46.220 for Benjamin Rush.
00:07:47.220 I would go straight there, and they would play that all day long.
00:07:50.760 And they would say, if he's going to break the Constitution, what else is he capable of
00:07:53.300 doing?
00:07:53.480 Now it validates they're no king's kings to say, that's where it goes to.
00:07:58.020 It's the slippery slope.
00:07:59.340 I just think the way he's doing it is the right way.
00:08:01.880 And like I said, I'm less than 10% that they don't do it, that they get in the way of
00:08:06.160 this.
00:08:06.520 Less than 10%.
00:08:07.060 90% is a done deal.
00:08:09.340 And I'm hoping he keeps the, oh, they have this already?
00:08:11.860 Will the Supreme Court rule favor under Trump's?
00:08:13.820 What are they saying?
00:08:14.900 25% chance it will, is what they're saying?
00:08:17.780 That's correct.
00:08:18.580 Will they?
00:08:19.100 Only 25%.
00:08:20.480 So 75% they won't?
00:08:22.480 Yes.
00:08:22.720 They won't reverse Trump's decision, you're saying.
00:08:25.260 No, no, no.
00:08:25.980 Explain to me, because I'm about to put some money on.
00:08:27.980 Rob, did you just post this right now yourself?
00:08:29.840 No, no.
00:08:30.260 I just Googled and found this through Kalshi.
00:08:33.300 So 25% of people believe the Supreme Court will rule in favor of Trump.
00:08:37.780 So the other 75% against Trump.
00:08:42.160 What?
00:08:42.400 Like it's not going to go.
00:08:43.300 But there's not a lot of crowd on that.
00:08:45.540 Zero activity.
00:08:46.260 It's zero volume.
00:08:46.900 So it's not like there's anyone involved in it for this to have any credibility right
00:08:50.960 now.
00:08:51.360 Here's what the Speaker of the House could do in one sentence.
00:08:54.060 Yeah.
00:08:54.640 Ladies and gentlemen, if the Supreme Court says that certain tariffs here are not national
00:08:59.520 security protected by IEPA, then we'll take a resolution up here in Congress to maintain
00:09:04.080 the tariffs as issued.
00:09:06.080 Bang.
00:09:06.780 Goes the gavel.
00:09:07.640 Yeah.
00:09:07.780 That's all the Speaker has to do.
00:09:10.060 Yeah.
00:09:10.200 Now he's got to get 60%, but now he would be putting the vote on the back of Congress.
00:09:15.460 Do you see that, Pat?
00:09:16.320 Yeah.
00:09:16.560 Yeah.
00:09:16.700 You know what?
00:09:17.120 Let's just take a vote and keep it.
00:09:19.040 And now, okay, Chuck Schumer, gather up all your buddies in the House over there across
00:09:26.440 the hallway and say no.
00:09:30.320 Say no to the American people.
00:09:31.640 Do it.
00:09:32.120 Yeah.
00:09:32.400 Do it.
00:09:33.060 Right.
00:09:33.320 Yeah.
00:09:33.480 Where is Mike Johnson?
00:09:34.320 He was best friends with Trump at first when he first got in, but I've heard a lot from
00:09:37.600 him.
00:09:38.040 Isn't that the only thing that Johnson would have to do?
00:09:40.300 Okay.
00:09:40.600 If the Supreme Court says some of this is not national security, the ones are national security,
00:09:43.980 we leave them alone.
00:09:44.700 The other ones, we vote.
00:09:46.140 No problem.
00:09:46.800 Yeah.
00:09:47.000 I'm just confused.
00:09:48.100 There's nine Supreme Court justices.
00:09:50.800 Six of them are conservative, right?
00:09:52.800 So what do you think that they're trying to talk to the conservative ones, the Democrats
00:09:56.580 and saying, hey, just trust us.
00:09:58.100 Let's screw them over.
00:09:58.860 He's like, what?
00:09:59.460 I don't understand the logic in trying to destroy what this guy is building.
00:10:03.860 And I get it.
00:10:04.760 They hate Trump.
00:10:05.500 Everything's anti-Trump.
00:10:07.100 That's the logic.
00:10:08.140 That's unbelievable.
00:10:09.580 But mainstream media is not telling these people nothing.
00:10:12.800 It's just all feelings.
00:10:14.080 Well, it all comes down.
00:10:15.100 Never.
00:10:15.560 Yeah, exactly.
00:10:16.260 It all comes down to what the law, quote unquote, allows, right?
00:10:19.960 So I was watching this debate on Fareed Zakaria.
00:10:22.920 There was a Harvard law professor who specializes in tariffs, which he called, quote unquote, regulating
00:10:28.360 imports, which are just tariffs.
00:10:29.820 And then there was a Justice Department advocate over there, basically debating.
00:10:34.680 And it's all legalese.
00:10:36.140 It's all law.
00:10:36.640 You know, you said how lawyers are ruining America.
00:10:38.240 They're hanging out in playgrounds just looking for kids that slip and fall and hurt themselves
00:10:43.360 and then sue people.
00:10:43.960 It's all legal stuff, which is beyond basically our understanding.
00:10:48.300 But Peabody made a good point.
00:10:50.800 Trump's either a fascist and he doesn't listen to anybody and he just kind of does what he
00:10:55.080 wants, or he actually has to abide by the rulings of the law.
00:10:58.260 And the Supreme Court ruling, whether they like it or not, is going to get in their way.
00:11:01.240 This is the whole premise of America and checks and balances and the executive and the judicial
00:11:05.560 and the legislative and the whole part with the legislative.
00:11:08.080 When Trump announced Liberation Day, which was what, in April, I believe, this has all
00:11:13.760 sort of been culminating since then.
00:11:17.860 So if he is a fascist, then he can't, he has to go through this.
00:11:23.320 The big issue that I have a problem with, the big, big issue is enough with the printing
00:11:28.020 money and just giving people money.
00:11:29.600 This $2,000, quote unquote, dividend.
00:11:32.540 So how many people are going to qualify this?
00:11:34.580 A hundred million people at least?
00:11:36.240 I would like him to keep it as low as possible as 10 million people.
00:11:40.480 I don't even want anybody to get this freaking money.
00:11:42.260 Because if a hundred million people get $2,000, that's $200 billion just given to people.
00:11:45.900 Let me tell you how this works.
00:11:47.360 Of course, I don't want anybody to get any kind of entitlement money.
00:11:50.660 But if it came out of his mouth and he doesn't keep it, then you're playing games.
00:11:56.400 It came out of his mouth.
00:11:57.820 He already said it.
00:11:59.480 He has to do something.
00:12:01.380 Okay, now if you do it only for 5 million people, 10 million people, 20 million people,
00:12:05.000 there's got to be something that goes to a certain percentage of people to say, we came
00:12:09.680 through.
00:12:09.940 But who are those people?
00:12:11.140 I don't know.
00:12:11.700 All I'm saying is if it came out of his mouth, he has to keep it.
00:12:14.280 Let's give it to the families with kids, take care of them, the working families, enough
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