Valuetainment - November 09, 2026


Nvidia CEO CAUGHT in Chinese Spy Scandal - Will He Be Forced Out？

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00:00:00.000 The CEO and founder of a company called NVIDIA,
00:00:04.340 multi-trillion dollar company.
00:00:06.220 This guy took it from zero to what it is today,
00:00:09.080 an estimated net worth, Vinny, of $200 billion.
00:00:12.120 He's one of the biggest heavyweights.
00:00:14.100 A lot of the surge you see in AI is because of this guy,
00:00:17.160 the chips that he built.
00:00:18.580 He's involved in pretty much everything.
00:00:20.220 He's known for that black leather jacket that he wears going everywhere.
00:00:23.620 And apparently that black leather jacket worked,
00:00:26.640 not just with his wife, but with a Chinese spy,
00:00:29.440 that came in named Alice Honk, who was working with another company,
00:00:34.380 going out there doing business deals, and all of a sudden you see pictures of them
00:00:37.700 having glasses of wine together, all this stuff.
00:00:40.280 And then the affair becomes public, and then he admits to it.
00:00:44.680 And once he admits to it, he apologizes for being unfaithful to his wife,
00:00:49.240 his family, his kids, his employees, everybody that he's working with.
00:00:53.200 And so now everybody starts talking about, wait a minute, how long has this been known?
00:00:58.620 Have they known this for a while?
00:01:00.440 Allegedly, the DOJ knew about this a year ago.
00:01:03.580 Allegedly, this was reported to them that this relationship, this affair is taking place.
00:01:07.440 Now, keep this in mind.
00:01:08.840 This is one of the hottest stocks that people have been putting money into,
00:01:11.320 that they've made a lot of money.
00:01:13.480 I think we said five years ago, if you would have put a million dollars into NVIDIA,
00:01:17.140 it would have been a $1.5 billion rate of return for you.
00:01:20.200 $1.5 billion from a million dollars.
00:01:21.820 I believe that was the number that we talked about.
00:01:23.940 So you're not just talking about how many people's lives change.
00:01:27.520 So now you're conflicted as an investor.
00:01:29.580 Do you want him to step down as the CEO?
00:01:31.760 Do you want to bring somebody else?
00:01:32.960 And they're saying maybe Ives is going to take place.
00:01:35.140 Then they want to know this relationship, this girl Alice.
00:01:38.360 Was she married?
00:01:39.260 Was she in a relationship?
00:01:40.340 His wife, whom they've been together for 40 years.
00:01:42.900 I think they've got two kids.
00:01:43.800 They're both working at NVIDIA.
00:01:45.280 And they met at, I think, Oregon State.
00:01:47.280 They've given a lot of money to Oregon State.
00:01:49.400 She runs the charity.
00:01:50.560 There is no prenup. 1.00
00:01:51.760 This will be the biggest divorce in the history of America if it ends up taking place.
00:01:55.480 $200 billion. 1.00
00:01:56.080 overnight she becomes a top 20 top 15 richest woman in the world with a lot of power and so 0.99
00:02:02.060 it was all over the news everybody is saying what happened and if china can target a ceo and a
00:02:09.680 founder like him what other places are they getting targeting for so tom when you saw this story
00:02:14.960 one were you surprised two what was your reaction when he said you know when he came out and he
00:02:21.060 admitted that this took place so first of all you know all of a sudden jensen wang is playing grand
00:02:26.500 theft country and um um with it being the unwitting he's being the unwitting player right uh in the
00:02:33.980 game so the first thing i thought about it was wait a minute i i didn't go to another guy slipped
00:02:41.360 and fell or anything like that i i didn't um because china's had spies out there they still
00:02:46.540 have spies out there they you know the honeypot is a easy trap and they're there that happens so
00:02:52.440 much number one number two there's so much you know dalliance that goes on with executives
00:02:59.280 with girlfriends and mistresses that doesn't surprise me what i looked into deeper and i'm
00:03:05.240 like wait a minute i went down to the last minute approvals for certain chips that shipped i went to
00:03:12.920 an investigative reporter that said there were some 200-series chips, and I'm going to mess up
00:03:17.400 the... Help me with the model number of that. There is a 200-series chip that supposedly went
00:03:24.240 to a company that had no address. So it's like, where did those go? And you suddenly had H200s,
00:03:33.280 a data center CPU. And then you had... Do you remember that we're not selling any chips? We're
00:03:39.560 selling any chips and then jensen met with the president and some other people and then we
00:03:43.580 decided we would send them lower power chips but we wouldn't give them the super duper chips do
00:03:49.260 you remember that pat and i'm sitting there going wait a minute did he get comfort was he compromised
00:03:54.620 and he had to do that because remember he personally went to the white house he was trying
00:03:58.700 to do it so not surprised to the affair that happens with executives not surprised that
00:04:04.420 chinese using a spy but when i looked at all the things that have been happening while this affair 0.84
00:04:10.320 was going on it suddenly made me nervous oh my gosh is there going to be an investigation of this
00:04:15.040 guy and do we have some deeper problems that's what i was thinking so and then why can't sweden 0.99
00:04:20.220 be the most powerful country in the world because and then send the swedish swimsuit models over
00:04:25.440 because you're disappointed because of the quality of the spy tom tom's that's what upsets you this
00:04:31.640 morning out of all the stories that we have.
00:04:33.520 My point is, can you imagine the problems?
00:04:35.840 Respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, Tom.
00:04:37.780 Can you go to her picture real quick?
00:04:39.380 Can you go to Alice Wong's picture?
00:04:41.600 Why would you do that? He pulled up
00:04:43.600 Jensen Wong's wife's picture. Go to Alice Wong's.
00:04:45.880 Okay, what do you give her? Zero to ten.
00:04:48.400 She's an attractive woman.
00:04:49.960 How old is he? 0.78
00:04:51.260 I don't know how old she is, but what do you give her?
00:04:53.440 What's the score? She's okay. If she's 40s
00:04:55.400 in her 50s, whatever. Eight, seven,
00:04:57.660 seven and a half, Tom. I want to know what Tom thinks.
00:04:59.620 I give her a rate in the ref.
00:05:01.300 Eight and a half.
00:05:02.340 Okay.
00:05:02.840 I don't know what.
00:05:04.240 Right and a half.
00:05:05.360 We're going right and a half today.
00:05:06.880 So that was a better joke.
00:05:08.340 But I guess the question is the following.
00:05:10.900 Do you think the president, they're saying the DOJ knew a year ago.
00:05:16.660 Do you think Trump brought it up to him one-on-one when they talked to each other?
00:05:22.580 What do you think?
00:05:23.200 I'll come to you, Lon.
00:05:23.860 Do you think he brought it up to him?
00:05:25.040 I think it's unlikely that he brought it up to him.
00:05:28.100 Unlikely that he brought it up.
00:05:28.880 I don't think he brought it up to him.
00:05:30.120 I think, look, if they were monitoring the situation, this whole concept poses an interesting question, which is like the new Cold War is being fought, not militarily, but with targeting the heads of these massive companies that are the future of innovation.
00:05:44.580 So there's this weird national security risk that didn't exist before because honeypotting has been around forever.
00:05:49.560 But, yeah, it's hard for me to believe that Trump would go tell him, look, you got to cut.
00:05:52.480 So here's what some people are saying.
00:05:53.820 And I have to read this because it's important for us to follow this.
00:05:56.440 So a lot of people are saying, who won more from this relationship?
00:06:00.600 Did Jensen win more or did Trump win more?
00:06:03.300 Now, Jensen Huang put $25 million into the ballroom.
00:06:07.560 Number two, the sales, the chip sales that they made to China,
00:06:11.440 do you know what percentage went to the taxpayers, to the U.S. government?
00:06:16.760 15% cut of NVIDIA's China sales went there.
00:06:20.920 So Trump originally demanded 20%.
00:06:22.620 Jensen Huang negotiated down to 15%.
00:06:25.400 Trump also negotiated a 25% deal of NVIDIA that they could sell the H200 chips that they were talking about.
00:06:33.020 And then obviously, you know, he is, I don't know if you saw what Trump said about Jensen when they asked him about it.
00:06:39.180 Do you have that clip to play?
00:06:40.700 There was a question about, you know, what do you think about what's going on here?
00:06:43.880 Here's what the president had to say about it.
00:06:45.420 Go for it.
00:06:45.960 NVIDIA is investigating Jensen Huang's relationship with a Chinese spy.
00:06:49.600 Have you spoken to Jensen Huang today?
00:06:51.220 I have not spoken to him about it.
00:06:52.940 I just know he's a fine person, but you never know what is going on.
00:06:58.320 I'm sure, I hope everything's fine.
00:07:00.680 He's done such an incredible job.
00:07:03.260 And so I would certainly hope, he's a fine person, in my opinion.
00:07:07.260 In hindsight, do you wish that you had acted on the intelligence when you were briefed about the spy last year?
00:07:11.200 No, I don't think so. I think, you know, I think he's an honorable guy.
00:07:13.660 I think he probably has an excuse for it.
00:07:16.720 You have to hear, no, you can't do that with people.
00:07:20.000 He's done an amazing job for our country.
00:07:24.280 You know how you solve this whole thing?
00:07:26.700 Don't commit adultery, Wang.
00:07:29.220 Can somebody put out an email or something? 1.00
00:07:32.140 If you're a rich billionaire or a politician and some Chinese girl is all up on you, that should be a huge flag. 1.00
00:07:39.200 And actually, a huge red flag. 1.00
00:07:41.260 A huge Chinese communist red flag in your horny faces. 0.99
00:07:44.700 First with Eric Swalwell. 1.00
00:07:46.160 No, seriously, Tom.
00:07:47.240 Fang Fang.
00:07:48.120 Now it's Wang Wang.
00:07:48.960 It's like, how many times?
00:07:50.240 And by the way, this is, again, on the bigger China issue.
00:07:52.700 We kind of joke around about it.
00:07:53.940 Wang, bang, wang.
00:07:54.380 Yeah, exactly.
00:07:55.260 How many guys from them spying and doing this,
00:07:57.620 to the balloons that were flying over the country that Biden let happen,
00:08:00.820 to buying farmland next to our military bases, COVID,
00:08:04.340 how many times, Pat? 1.00
00:08:05.500 And then these people come to our country, 0.94
00:08:07.500 and when they went to San Francisco,
00:08:09.520 Newsom took all of American flags out,
00:08:12.100 put all Chinese communist flags, 0.94
00:08:13.700 worshiped freaking Xi Jinping. 0.87
00:08:15.180 He still comes to the White House, and I get it, Pat. 0.95
00:08:17.160 I get it.
00:08:17.700 But you know what?
00:08:19.160 We're supposed to pretend that they're not our enemy?
00:08:20.960 And you know what I'm pissed off about?
00:08:22.440 When are we going to start sending our, are we sending our,
00:08:25.020 like get some Karen Karens or some Susan Susans, 1.00
00:08:27.980 send their asses over there. 1.00
00:08:29.220 Are we spying on them? 1.00
00:08:30.500 It's always them doing it here.
00:08:32.020 Are we doing it to them?
00:08:32.920 I'm tired of that.
00:08:33.580 I brought this up a couple weeks ago,
00:08:35.000 and I wonder if we're doing that or not.
00:08:36.840 I hope so.
00:08:37.360 But here's the thing.
00:08:37.820 Let's stay on that topic.
00:08:38.660 So Anthony asked me a question this morning.
00:08:40.920 You never know what Anthony's going to ask me.
00:08:42.380 That guy asked me the weirdest questions.
00:08:43.720 I'm never ready for it.
00:08:44.700 So he asked me, so, you know, how do you handle this?
00:08:47.340 As somebody that, you know, you go and you see a high-profile person like this getting caught by a Chinese spy.
00:08:52.020 What do you do?
00:08:53.060 I said, many years ago, I read a book by Billy Graham.
00:08:56.820 And Billy Graham said when in the 70s and 80s, pastors were getting caught with members of the church, girls.
00:09:03.200 What was that one pastor, Jimmy?
00:09:05.880 Jimmy Swagger, but he turned out to not be a real pastor.
00:09:09.160 But it was a poster child for just getting caught up in this.
00:09:13.420 Pastors were getting caught with girls and wives of members of the church.
00:09:17.840 This still happens.
00:09:19.260 For sure it does.
00:09:20.260 But let me tell you, so Billy sat there, and he was married to his wife, Ruth.
00:09:23.960 And he says, we got to come up with a strategy.
00:09:26.080 Because one time he tells the story about being in the hotel and a girl runs in.
00:09:29.840 It's just him and her.
00:09:30.780 It's like, whoa.
00:09:31.640 I don't know where I read this.
00:09:33.040 But anyway, somebody can fact check it.
00:09:35.360 And then they made a decision to no longer travel in twos.
00:09:39.120 They traveled in threes.
00:09:40.620 Smart.
00:09:40.980 And because if you travel into me and Ilan can go somewhere and say,
00:09:43.820 Ilan, no one's going to know.
00:09:44.720 Let's just go have a good time tonight with these three girls.
00:09:46.940 Okay? 0.97
00:09:47.640 But if we have Tom with us, Tom will say, no, let's go with four girls. 0.50
00:09:52.640 If Tom's with us.
00:09:53.780 Because that's how you roll, BizDoc.
00:09:55.320 One of us is going to be like, guys, this is a bad idea.
00:09:58.540 We're all married.
00:09:59.280 Someone's going to make that comment.
00:10:00.640 You know?
00:10:00.980 Yeah.
00:10:01.800 It increases the chances. 0.92
00:10:03.420 It increases the chances of not doing something dumb. 0.95
00:10:07.480 That's the part. 0.99
00:10:08.140 It increases the chance of not doing something dumb.
00:10:10.580 This is why Tom and I have shared rooms together so many times.
00:10:13.240 I don't know how many nights it is at this point, 50, 75 nights.
00:10:15.980 Maury and I have shared rooms so many times.
00:10:18.140 And, unfortunately, we've also shared rooms with another guy named Amur.
00:10:20.600 But we've shared rooms with a lot of friends of ours over the years.
00:10:24.440 And you see that's the protection.
00:10:25.740 But this is the question here, Vinny.
00:10:27.220 Tom, here's a question for you.
00:10:29.680 An incident happened with UFC and Dana White a couple years ago on New Year's Eve.
00:10:33.440 The fight between him and his wife.
00:10:34.720 Everybody came out saying, fire Dana, fire Dana, fire Dana.
00:10:39.740 I don't know if you have that clip.
00:10:41.280 Are you talking about the smack?
00:10:42.220 Oh, yeah, yeah, the smack.
00:10:43.520 Well, he hit her first. 0.99
00:10:44.340 She hit him first. 0.98
00:10:45.700 Yeah.
00:10:46.020 And then he reacted, right?
00:10:48.180 And he came up and he says, you know, what do you want me to do?
00:10:51.520 You want me to, I'm not talking about this clip, the interview.
00:10:53.420 I want to see what he says is what I want to, specifically the interview.
00:10:57.300 So he comes out and says, what do you want to do?
00:10:59.500 You want to replace me with who?
00:11:00.920 Who are you going to replace me with?
00:11:02.240 Go ahead.
00:11:02.920 Find a person to replace me with.
00:11:04.420 Who is it going to be?
00:11:05.620 But now that's an argument between a husband and wife.
00:11:08.000 And he said something.
00:11:08.780 And he says, look, if you know me, if you know my wife, you know how we are.
00:11:11.760 We've been together for 30-something years, high school sweethearts.
00:11:13.960 He's kind of explaining the story.
00:11:15.580 But in this case, this scandal is with a Chinese spy.
00:11:21.040 I want you to think, if you had $50 million of stock in NVIDIA, real money,
00:11:28.320 and this thing went from $3.8 million to $50 million,
00:11:32.400 and your net worth is $60 million, which means what?
00:11:36.380 $50 million of it you made because of Jensen Huang driving in NVIDIA.
00:11:40.680 Do you as a shareholder want Jensen Huang to step down?
00:11:45.080 Do you as a shareholder think selfishly?
00:11:47.160 Me, yes.
00:11:47.660 Do you?
00:11:48.080 You do.
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00:12:18.160 Look, there's the moral implications and there's the business implications.
00:12:22.800 Ethically, 100% I want it to step down.
00:12:25.020 Who are they going to replace him with?
00:12:26.620 What is the impact going to be on the stock price?
00:12:28.180 They're saying Ives.
00:12:28.720 Ives is the name that's coming up.
00:12:29.880 Pre-market is saying minus 7.26% pre-market that it's – by the way, it's minus 12 right now.
00:12:36.460 Minus 12%.
00:12:37.540 Minus 6.53% it dropped right now.
00:12:41.820 Okay, so how much is that?
00:12:42.720 6.53%?
00:12:43.980 $12 a share.
00:12:45.060 $12, yeah.
00:12:45.880 It's like, what are we talking about?
00:12:47.860 I would say step down, Pat.
00:12:49.300 And I mean, the sooner, the better.
00:12:50.880 The longer it stays, the longer people are like, bro, what are you doing?
00:12:54.240 Not just an affair.
00:12:56.020 A spy.
00:12:56.780 That's the problem.
00:12:57.480 There's a national security.
00:12:58.500 That's what I'm asking, Tom.
00:12:59.880 Should he step down, you own $50 million in NVIDIA shares.
00:13:04.320 80% of your net worth is tied to NVIDIA shares.
00:13:07.540 You know this is the guy that took the company from zero to a couple trillion dollars.
00:13:11.160 Do you encourage him stepping down?
00:13:14.380 If he helped any of those illicit chips get into China, unwittingly or wittingly,
00:13:22.020 if those chips got into China with some of those deals,
00:13:25.560 And the one I'm seeing about is H-200 chips were sold to a company that had an empty office at this address because there was an auditor that went there.
00:13:34.340 If that turns out that those went into the wrong side of China, you're done.
00:13:38.900 If it was just she was trying to get chip information and doing things like this, then maybe you stay.
00:13:47.360 The only way he stays is if he comes out and it's proven that she wanted to get all this information and he didn't give it to her and they had an affair.
00:13:58.820 But I think the odds of that are low.
00:14:00.480 But don't you question his judgment, his character as a person to let something like that happen?
00:14:05.100 There's two different aspects there.
00:14:06.280 You can question Dana White's character as a person when you see that video.
00:14:09.200 But it's really, yeah, but the question is, again, it's what Tom touched on is how much damage was actually done.
00:14:15.400 And until you have an actual measurement of that damage, like are his fingerprints on that on that deal that ended up getting.
00:14:21.860 He may have no choice. What if the DOJ opens the series and says bad chips got into the central China?
00:14:27.800 Then it's not whether he stays with the with the company. It's whether he's indicted or not.
00:14:32.240 Yeah, he's out. I think so. He's out. And to me, it's got less to do with the affair.
00:14:37.920 It's got more to do with who it is. Yep.
00:14:40.440 and don't get me wrong we're not sitting here endorsing promoting defending any of that stuff
00:14:46.060 the company they have to make the decision for themselves on what happens there you know whether
00:14:50.460 you want to call impeachment over monica lewinsky type of thing but now imagine if monica lewinsky 0.69
00:14:55.080 was a spy taking information and selling it to china that's a different kind of impeachment you
00:14:59.480 want that person to be gone versus yeah it's monica lewinsky but look who you know bill was
00:15:04.700 married to bill was married to you know hillary clinton a lot of people said that right that was
00:15:09.100 And that's why they call Bill Clinton the first black president.
00:15:13.120 You ever heard, like, when people make that claim? 0.82
00:15:15.500 So to me, I think the idea of being a Chinese,
00:15:19.260 by the way, you know how much money they lost in valuation, roughly? 0.66
00:15:21.620 Market cap, $300 billion, give or take.
00:15:24.140 $300 billion of wealth was lost because of what happened.
00:15:27.500 Let me tell you what I would do a little bit deeper.
00:15:29.260 You know what audit I would do, Vinny?
00:15:32.140 If we're in the U.S. government, I would be telling my guys,
00:15:35.660 and I'm sure they're already doing this anyways,
00:15:37.820 Make a list of all major companies that China is doing business with 0.78
00:15:41.800 or they want to do business with, and audit to see what spies we have there,
00:15:45.800 whether it's AI companies, semiconductors, defense contractors,
00:15:49.380 White House officials, universities, Congress, SpaceX, Big Tech, everybody.
00:15:53.820 You know how the same way there's a massive paranoia with Israel and AIPAC?
00:15:57.520 Massive paranoia with Israel and AIPAC.
00:15:59.820 The reality of it is they want the information for what?
00:16:03.080 What do they want the information for? 0.72
00:16:04.400 It's not like they want the information for, you know, they want the information for control so Israel stays as a country. 0.82
00:16:10.840 They have the right. You know what China wants the information for? 0.85
00:16:13.740 China wants U.S. to fall and China wants to be the most dominant country in the world with their ideology imposed to the world.
00:16:22.100 China is not waking up in the morning saying, well, let's go. Phenomenal allies. Let's make it bigger.
00:16:26.120 So you have to be very, very careful. 1.00
00:16:28.780 the the i'm willing to bet the amount of chinese spies they have in university presidents oh man 0.97
00:16:34.900 think about the influence they have in content that's being taught to kids 100 think about 0.98
00:16:39.460 you know how they're brainwashing kids the influence they have over there so this isn't
00:16:43.500 just the beginning i want to know more how why this is i'll give you the final thoughts on this
00:16:47.700 and we'll go to yeah it even goes into hollywood like just speaking from experience i started
00:16:52.120 noticing that a lot of heavy investors into films like when i was in that space started coming out
00:16:56.680 of china there was that whole program of getting students over here who are chinese so that you
00:17:01.060 could get them eventually to have citizenship and vote and all this stuff there it's a very smart
00:17:06.300 strategic move on their end the game they're playing they're playing a long game and it's
00:17:11.380 it's slow enough and it's low-key enough that you don't notice it until these stories come out and
00:17:15.000 then you kind of forget about this story move on to the next so it's an effective strategy that
00:17:18.740 they're using i think they're going to find a way to protect them but i think he's going to be
00:17:21.980 stepping away i think you'll be hired as a consultant or somebody on the board to be able
00:17:26.580 to give feedback but they need to go find a new ceo and i don't think they can get rid of him that
00:17:30.940 easily to replace a guy like that's not going to be that easy uh because of all the relations
00:17:35.700 because he's a very good biz dev guy absolutely you have to realize you don't get to where you're
00:17:39.380 at he's a multi a lot of these techies are not biz dev guys he's not quirky like if you watch the
00:17:44.880 way he speaks it's very very rare to get a brilliant guy like that that's also good with
00:17:49.580 people yeah typically the guys that are very brilliant are a little bit awkward like mark
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