Valuetainment - August 15, 2025


＂Obama Is A Problem＂ – Andrew Bustamante EXPLAINS Why Russiagate Could Land Barack Behind Bars


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

176.81302

Word Count

2,035

Sentence Count

140

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the latest in the Russia-gate scandal and what it means for the future of the Mueller investigation. We also discuss the impact of the Supreme Court Justice nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, being removed from the ballot, and the impact on the midterms.


Transcript

00:00:00.480 Russiagate, story's been out of order for a while.
00:00:03.860 It's not like we haven't known when the dossier was paid for,
00:00:06.220 $35 million, Hillary Clinton.
00:00:07.480 We've all read it.
00:00:08.160 We've seen the story.
00:00:09.220 That's not news.
00:00:10.340 Now, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, who is running DNI,
00:00:14.200 is coming out and saying, hey, here's what we're going to be doing.
00:00:16.660 And they're going after Schiff.
00:00:18.600 They're going after Hillary.
00:00:19.760 Here's President Trump today, just five hours ago.
00:00:23.120 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:25.360 I had to go through the Russia-Russia hoax.
00:00:27.380 And it was actually, it was a strain on the relationship.
00:00:31.880 I actually told them, I said, you know,
00:00:34.100 they got this phony investigation going on, Russia, Russia, Russia,
00:00:38.640 totally phony, created by Adam Schiff,
00:00:42.340 Shifty Schiff and Hillary Clinton and the whole group of them.
00:00:45.420 And it made it very dangerous for our country
00:00:47.680 because I was unable to really deal with Russia
00:00:50.040 the way we should have been.
00:00:51.080 I'm looking at Pam because I hope something's going to be done about it.
00:00:54.240 These people put our country at great danger.
00:00:56.280 And Adam Schiff, it was all made up.
00:00:59.620 It was a hoax.
00:01:00.360 The Mueller report came out.
00:01:01.520 They all hated me.
00:01:02.340 They had 18 Trump haters.
00:01:05.200 And they said, I did nothing wrong.
00:01:07.000 They couldn't believe, they couldn't find anything.
00:01:10.140 After years of investigation, it was all a hoax.
00:01:13.660 It was a hoax created by the Democrats,
00:01:15.960 but in particular Schiff and Crooked Hillary, the whole group.
00:01:20.000 Let me pause right there.
00:01:20.700 So what do you think is going to happen here?
00:01:23.140 You think, I mean, at this point, people know, right?
00:01:26.160 Obama knew all along.
00:01:28.600 We got the reports that shows that Obama knew this was going on
00:01:32.000 and he kind of looked the other way and he allowed it to happen.
00:01:34.980 What level of accountability do you think will happen here?
00:01:39.280 This is tricky.
00:01:40.040 So, unfortunately, we are dealing with an issue
00:01:45.080 that will always have information that's confidential, that's classified.
00:01:50.700 We're not ever going to know what they know.
00:01:53.400 We're not going to know what's being leaked.
00:01:55.600 That isn't a controlled leak.
00:01:57.260 We're not going to know what's real information versus what's spun information.
00:02:01.160 So because we'll never know,
00:02:02.720 it does two useful things for the current administration.
00:02:05.860 First, it distracts us from whatever else we might be focusing on.
00:02:09.180 And then second, it continues to drive this bipartisan divide,
00:02:14.980 which is going to be very important going into the midterms.
00:02:17.460 So there's lots of benefits from talking about something,
00:02:19.900 even though you and I can't reasonably expect
00:02:22.580 any significant outcome to come of it.
00:02:24.740 The second thing it does is that it allows this question
00:02:30.660 about whether or not a president, former or current,
00:02:35.280 can be held accountable, accountable for their actions,
00:02:37.740 for their words, for their conspiracies.
00:02:40.960 And that's, to put a fine point on it,
00:02:44.280 I don't think a president will ever be held accountable
00:02:46.080 for what they did or didn't do right or wrong
00:02:48.820 because the office of the president
00:02:51.600 is so representative of freedom around the world
00:02:55.540 that to actually put a president behind bars,
00:02:58.640 to hold them in contempt,
00:03:00.020 would be something that basically says,
00:03:01.880 hey, we're America, we made a mistake.
00:03:03.340 We can't do that on the world stage.
00:03:06.560 They did it to him, didn't they?
00:03:07.760 They gave him a mugshot, president, they, you know,
00:03:11.340 who's, what president's ever had a mugshot?
00:03:13.280 They tried.
00:03:13.860 They certainly tried with Donald Trump.
00:03:16.300 And the vote of the people on two separate elections
00:03:20.880 four years apart
00:03:22.660 kind of demonstrated the power of the office of the president.
00:03:26.300 If Trump didn't flip those three Supreme Court justices
00:03:30.620 and it was the other way around 6-3,
00:03:33.580 when they voted for him not to be able to be on the ballot
00:03:36.580 in Colorado,
00:03:38.220 if they would have voted the other way
00:03:40.940 and said, yeah, we're going to remove him from ballot
00:03:42.400 in Colorado and five other states follow,
00:03:44.200 he's not winning, Kamala or Biden is the president today.
00:03:46.760 Right.
00:03:47.220 And he would have been in jail
00:03:48.660 or they would have done anything and everything in their power
00:03:50.780 to say that he was a criminal.
00:03:53.300 They would have done that.
00:03:54.080 So we got very close.
00:03:55.520 Oh, yeah.
00:03:56.020 Without the Supreme Court, we're there.
00:03:58.800 Without, it's at its core, you're right,
00:04:02.600 but there's also other levels that have to,
00:04:05.180 essentially other dominoes that are smaller dominoes
00:04:07.340 that also have to fall into place.
00:04:08.840 And we don't really know how any of that would turn out.
00:04:10.720 But I don't pay a lot of attention
00:04:13.820 to these internal divisive politics
00:04:18.640 because it really is,
00:04:21.340 it's a page out of the political playbook
00:04:23.700 to distract the American people.
00:04:25.680 The masses.
00:04:26.380 It's a tool to distract the masses.
00:04:28.280 It's also a tool to distract your adversaries
00:04:30.720 because all of the Russian intelligence services
00:04:33.420 that are watching open source collection
00:04:34.860 from the United States,
00:04:35.760 they're spending time and money
00:04:37.340 wondering what's going to happen next
00:04:39.260 instead of collecting meaningful intelligence
00:04:41.540 on what the true plans and intentions are
00:04:43.300 of the United States in Mexico
00:04:45.060 with trade tariffs,
00:04:46.420 with rare earth minerals, right?
00:04:49.160 So we want to waste our enemy's time.
00:04:51.180 We didn't invent this.
00:04:52.640 We borrowed this skill from the USSR.
00:04:55.140 The USSR literally had a playbook
00:04:57.000 that said that they would let their politicians
00:04:59.400 pontificate in multiple hour-long meetings
00:05:02.640 because they knew that it would distract the Americans.
00:05:04.920 Got it.
00:05:11.440 So you don't think there's anything there
00:05:12.740 and Trump may be doing something
00:05:15.440 to play everybody else
00:05:18.420 into going in and seeing what's going to happen.
00:05:20.000 What's that?
00:05:20.360 Rudy Giuliani says,
00:05:21.300 Obama will invoke presidential immunity
00:05:23.300 over the Rush Oaks investigation,
00:05:25.440 but here's one little problem
00:05:26.420 that could lead to an indictment.
00:05:28.080 You're not immune for the rest of your life
00:05:31.320 as a president.
00:05:31.920 Obama becomes a problem
00:05:33.700 because he will invoke presidential immunity.
00:05:35.820 Where's this, Rob?
00:05:36.340 Is this a clip from here?
00:05:37.240 It is.
00:05:37.560 Here it is.
00:05:37.820 Is this just now?
00:05:40.040 August 10th.
00:05:41.100 Okay.
00:05:41.480 So yesterday, a couple of days ago.
00:05:42.840 Let's see it.
00:05:44.920 Becomes a problem
00:05:45.820 because he will invoke presidential immunity.
00:05:50.840 The decision the Supreme Court made
00:05:53.000 that helped Trump.
00:05:55.300 The acts are kind of different,
00:05:59.420 but there's a problem for Obama.
00:06:01.640 It continues after he's president.
00:06:04.500 So starting on January 1st, 2017,
00:06:09.220 any participation of him in the conspiracy
00:06:12.040 is not immune.
00:06:14.700 You're not immune for the rest of your life
00:06:16.380 as president.
00:06:17.240 So he'll be immune
00:06:18.380 if whatever allegations against him
00:06:21.620 are contained within his presidency.
00:06:23.660 But if he's helping to assist
00:06:27.000 over that three-year period
00:06:28.500 that they pushed Russian collusion
00:06:30.620 into 2017 and 2018,
00:06:33.960 then he's, of course,
00:06:35.040 he could be indicted for that.
00:06:37.200 Obama becomes a problem.
00:06:39.440 Do you agree with him?
00:06:40.440 So I agree with him on a legal basis.
00:06:44.440 However,
00:06:45.700 the operative term that he used
00:06:48.700 was conspiracy.
00:06:49.720 I think if there's anything
00:06:51.960 we all learned
00:06:52.520 from the Diddy investigation,
00:06:54.100 it's that the Department of Justice
00:06:55.400 can't do shit to prove a conspiracy
00:06:57.360 because they couldn't pin conspiracy on Diddy.
00:07:01.480 They failed to pin conspiracy
00:07:03.480 on multiple players
00:07:04.420 because it's very hard
00:07:05.740 to prove conspiracy.
00:07:08.500 So whether or not
00:07:09.900 there was a conspiracy,
00:07:11.120 whether or not that is
00:07:12.300 backed up with evidence,
00:07:13.740 it's a completely different thing
00:07:15.180 that our Department of Justice
00:07:16.860 can bring the talent
00:07:17.980 and the team together
00:07:21.640 to be able to make
00:07:22.580 a true conviction of conspiracy.
00:07:25.600 So you don't see much happening here.
00:07:27.320 I see us getting distracted, man.
00:07:28.840 I see a lot of us being distracted.
00:07:30.680 I see a lot of bifurcation of politics.
00:07:35.260 And I want to correct one thing.
00:07:36.600 I don't think it's Trump doing it.
00:07:38.540 I don't think it's Trump
00:07:39.780 sitting in the Oval Office saying,
00:07:41.460 you know what we need to do, guys?
00:07:42.540 We need to distract America.
00:07:44.480 I think it's his PR department.
00:07:45.960 I think it's the people
00:07:46.700 who are trying to make sure
00:07:48.540 that the Republicans
00:07:49.240 are still in a good position
00:07:50.400 for the midterms.
00:07:51.300 I think there's all sorts of advisors
00:07:52.760 who are like,
00:07:53.680 we need to do something
00:07:54.560 to get the eyes and ears
00:07:57.780 and get all the clicks off of.
00:08:00.140 But a strategic way
00:08:01.680 of telling Trump to protect them
00:08:03.260 or because somebody else
00:08:04.500 that's the establishment
00:08:05.580 is telling the PR people
00:08:07.760 to tell the president to say this
00:08:09.120 because they want to distract others.
00:08:10.900 Like, is it direct or indirect?
00:08:12.900 It's direct.
00:08:14.040 Oh, it's direct.
00:08:14.560 So he knows that it's not a negative.
00:08:18.620 His own teammates
00:08:19.500 are not doing this to distract him.
00:08:21.340 Correct.
00:08:21.820 Okay, so it's not a negative thing.
00:08:23.160 It's not a negative thing.
00:08:24.160 Yeah, and it's not a Trump
00:08:25.980 trying to misinform the United States.
00:08:27.060 Okay, so let me ask you this.
00:08:27.900 As somebody that is in this world
00:08:29.260 where you study deception
00:08:30.860 and you know what's going on
00:08:31.940 because you've been a part of it
00:08:32.800 as a CIA officer,
00:08:33.740 not been a part of it,
00:08:34.520 but like you're in it
00:08:35.260 and you're seeing what they're saying
00:08:36.280 and you're like,
00:08:36.580 no, that's bullshit.
00:08:37.620 It's actually not what we're working on.
00:08:39.440 What is worth paying attention to today?
00:08:41.260 So what you want to watch
00:08:43.420 is you want to watch
00:08:44.360 what Donald Trump is able to do
00:08:47.200 that delivers on his campaign promises
00:08:49.900 and what is he able to do
00:08:51.680 that makes a demonstrable improvement
00:08:54.220 in the lives of the average American
00:08:55.760 because that's going to be
00:08:56.960 what we carry with us
00:08:58.520 into the midterm
00:08:59.860 and the midterm
00:09:00.660 is going to be critically important
00:09:01.660 because if Donald Trump
00:09:02.520 wants to continue to make progress,
00:09:04.380 he needs as much control
00:09:06.480 to be Republican held
00:09:08.060 in the Congress as possible
00:09:09.380 at the midterm.
00:09:09.940 So that's the stuff
00:09:11.900 that we need to pay attention to.
00:09:13.880 His foreign policy ambitions
00:09:15.540 are all over the map right now
00:09:17.340 because these strongmen leaders
00:09:19.640 are all jockeying for control,
00:09:22.440 whether it's Netanyahu
00:09:23.460 or whether it's Putin
00:09:24.200 or whether it's Xi Jinping,
00:09:25.540 they're all manipulating
00:09:26.820 and jockeying in different regions.
00:09:29.640 Europe is kind of tits up.
00:09:32.720 In the last two years,
00:09:33.960 you've got three major economies
00:09:35.680 all dissolving their parliaments,
00:09:37.260 all going through a no-confidence vote
00:09:40.260 in France, in Germany, in Portugal.
00:09:43.200 You've got Hungary
00:09:44.120 and Bulgaria supporting Russia.
00:09:47.120 You've got Slovakia
00:09:48.580 having a pro-Russian president brought in.
00:09:51.300 Europe's in chaos.
00:09:53.460 So foreign policy
00:09:54.360 is going to be something very...
00:09:55.380 And it's too complex
00:09:56.140 for the average person to understand.
00:09:57.640 And it's not Trump's priority,
00:09:59.680 just like he told you here,
00:10:00.520 why would I worry about Iran?
00:10:01.980 So how does he make domestic wins?
00:10:04.800 That's what he
00:10:06.020 and that's what the party behind him
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