Valuetainment - July 28, 2025


“Pam Bondi Dropped The Ball” - Laura Loomer BLASTS Trump's DOJ For Epstein Files Cover-up


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

206.33138

Word Count

3,122

Sentence Count

203

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

On today's show, Alex Blumberg joins us to talk about the Epstein scandal, and why he thinks Florida AG Pam Bondi should have been the one to bring the charges against Jeffrey Epstein. Also, we discuss why we should have known that Jeffrey Epstein was a serial pedophile.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Next question for you is with Epstein, okay, and I'm curious to know what position you're going to take with this, because on one end, we've been following the story closely, I know you have as well, Pam Bondi, Florida, you said vetting, a lot of people said they're not being vetted, I don't know if you were referring Pam Bondi as one of the people that wasn't vetted, I don't know how you feel about Cash, I don't know how you feel about Bongino, these are, you know, Bongino is a very trusted guy by many people, big podcast, big following, respected, trusted,
00:00:30.000 even his enemies trust the guy, but when it comes on to the Epstein and the way it was announced, the way it was released, O'Keefe, you know, me, you know, was it O'Keefe Media Group came in, got Pam Bondi saying what she said, and then she came up and said, well, we found thousands of hours of footage and all this other stuff, and then all of a sudden it was kid porn.
00:00:48.120 And I will say, you know, the first mention of those videotapes, as much as I love O'Keefe, it wasn't O'Keefe, the video caught Pam Bondi at a breakfast admitting that the tapes had child pornography on them, but the first mention of it was actually Roger Stone over a decade ago in his book, The Clinton's War on Women, when he was mentioning, you know, all the flights, Lolita Express, going to Epstein Island, all that stuff, right?
00:01:12.260 And he said that the files have, like, it's in his book, he says the files have likely been destroyed, and a lot of it is child porn that will never be released to the public.
00:01:21.200 You know, I've known that for a while, too, because I read Roger's book years ago.
00:01:24.900 That being said, I think that it's been handled horribly.
00:01:28.060 I am the reporter who broke this story about Dan Bongino skipping work two Fridays ago because he was contemplating resigning.
00:01:35.740 And, look, I stand by all of my reporting.
00:01:38.540 Pam, Pam Bondi, as I call her, dropped the ball as it relates to the Epstein investigation.
00:01:43.640 I don't think that she was the appropriate person to even be controlling this investigation.
00:01:49.580 When you speak of vetting, it's very important that you look at people's conflicts of interest, okay?
00:01:53.600 It's very important that if you're going to have transparency and, you know, this is one of the things that happens a lot with these vetting crises in the admin, there's not a lot of focus on conflicts.
00:02:05.040 Well, Pam Blondi was the attorney general of Florida when Epstein was getting away with raping kids and doing everything that he did.
00:02:12.920 If they were aware, because as we saw, the Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, under the first Trump administration, submitted his resignation, if you recall, because they didn't vet him.
00:02:25.740 Nobody bothered to ask him if he was involved in anything controversial.
00:02:29.980 And he was involved in the, I guess they call it like a non-prosecution plea deal, right, with Jeffrey Epstein, with the various FBI agents who we still don't know about.
00:02:42.460 So that came up during his Senate confirmation hearing, and he had to resign because he said that it created such a distraction for the admin.
00:02:50.900 Now, I want to know, if that was enough to get Alex Acosta to resign from the administration, and that was in 2008 when that paperwork was signed,
00:02:59.200 how come Pam Blondi, who only a year or so later became the attorney general of Florida, okay, same time period,
00:03:05.900 how come she didn't have to resign as attorney general of the United States for not disclosing the fact that she was the attorney general when Jeffrey Epstein was getting away with all this?
00:03:14.500 Surely, as the attorney general of Florida, she would have been aware of a plea deal or some kind of intelligence-gathering operation,
00:03:21.520 which we already know from the files that have since been released, that Jeffrey Epstein, as part of his plea deal, right, where he was out on release, was able,
00:03:29.060 and I posted these documents too, was supposed to be sharing information with the FBI.
00:03:34.420 Those are in the documents that have Alex Acosta's name on them from 2008.
00:03:38.780 So we know that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with collecting info and sharing info with the FBI.
00:03:45.480 So what made the administration, as much as I love the administration, think that Pam would be the person to do this when that's such an egregious conflict?
00:03:54.640 Wouldn't you agree?
00:03:56.300 I mean, if you were the attorney general during the time that he was raping kids and getting away with all his crimes,
00:04:01.720 why should you be the one?
00:04:03.160 They should have known that this eventually was going to come up.
00:04:05.940 So then why, so if the president, if the president Trump has seen one of his handlers, one of his leaders, Pam Bondi, doing what she did, the mishandling,
00:04:14.860 and the supporters on the inside who, these are not the stupid losers.
00:04:19.980 I'm talking about the people that are actually on the inside that are on Trump's side.
00:04:24.420 They're saying, hey, this was a big screw up.
00:04:27.080 How is he handling one of his people made a massive mistake, big blunder, that they keep having a rehash,
00:04:33.880 and then other people are like, no, no, this was actually a bad mistake.
00:04:36.940 You got to fire Pam.
00:04:38.140 You got to fire this.
00:04:39.040 You got to fire that.
00:04:40.320 How is he managing that?
00:04:42.320 Well, look, the president has made his decision.
00:04:44.980 He's not firing Pam.
00:04:47.260 Bongino was thinking of resigning, and from my understanding, the president had a phone call with him two Saturdays ago
00:04:52.560 and was able to kind of, you know, walk him off the ledge.
00:04:55.320 It's great.
00:04:55.760 I like Dan.
00:04:56.280 I think he's great.
00:04:57.540 But there's no denying that there's friction that exists between Cash and Dan and Pam.
00:05:01.540 I mean, who releases a memo about something so consequential on a Sunday evening on Fourth of July weekend?
00:05:06.980 Who does that, right?
00:05:07.740 You release.
00:05:08.740 Who will prove that?
00:05:09.360 Pam will prove that.
00:05:10.320 Yeah, Pam approved it.
00:05:12.020 Supposedly, there was a meeting, from what I was told, that took place in the Situation Room,
00:05:16.040 and it was discussed by, you know, White House advisors, Pam, Cash, and Dan,
00:05:20.780 but they hadn't agreed, from what I was told, to a time when it was going to be released.
00:05:24.460 And so Dan and Cash, apparently, from what I know, claimed that they were sidetracked about the contents of the memo
00:05:30.840 and when it was released.
00:05:32.720 Notice nobody signed their names to it, which is kind of bizarre and unprecedented.
00:05:36.240 And to generally, you know, when a memo is released, somebody's name or logo's on it.
00:05:39.920 There was nothing on there.
00:05:41.060 That being said, Pam also just loves Fox News.
00:05:45.840 She spends so much time on Fox News, and this is the problem.
00:05:48.900 Was she playing an act?
00:05:50.960 Like, was she trying to play into the energy of the base when she said what she said?
00:05:54.700 The files are on my desk.
00:05:56.880 Billionaires are leaving on private jets to flee accountability.
00:06:00.560 I've seen these tapes.
00:06:01.780 They're absolutely horrific.
00:06:02.900 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:06:04.060 Like, what was she doing?
00:06:05.420 Was she just lying?
00:06:06.740 Was she caught up in the fame and all of the attention she was getting and everybody talking about her?
00:06:12.660 Either way, whatever the excuse is, and obviously it's nothing but one big...
00:06:16.240 She doesn't give me vibes of that.
00:06:17.620 I don't think it's like...
00:06:18.680 Well, whether it was deliberate or she just got carried away, it created a crisis.
00:06:23.800 Was the president in there while they're processing this with Cash and Dan or no?
00:06:28.020 I don't know if he was in the room or not.
00:06:30.380 I don't know.
00:06:30.900 But I know that a meeting took place.
00:06:32.380 Okay, would Pam be able to release something like that on 4th of July Sunday at 4 o'clock without the president's approval?
00:06:37.560 I don't know if she could do it without the president's approval or if maybe council or the DOJ or White House staff signed off on it.
00:06:48.280 I don't know.
00:06:48.920 That's the big question is why was this released in the way that it was released?
00:06:54.040 And I feel like there probably would have been more of an understanding with Cash and Dan and the president had everybody been on the same page.
00:07:00.520 And that's what caused so much conflict.
00:07:02.220 But I think that people speaking out of line or...
00:07:05.900 And I don't want to say over-exaggerating because I don't know if they over-exaggerated.
00:07:09.480 I don't know if they actually believe these things or if they were over-exaggerating.
00:07:13.720 When she says things like, the files are on my desk and she said that a lot of powerful people...
00:07:18.800 I'm sure you could find the clip, but there's a clip of her saying a lot of powerful people are leaving the country right now
00:07:25.200 and they're getting on their private jets to escape accountability.
00:07:28.540 Well, who?
00:07:29.160 Who are those people?
00:07:29.940 Why are you not making them a flight risk?
00:07:32.740 Why are you not grounding them?
00:07:34.160 How come DHS or flight marshals aren't grounding their planes?
00:07:37.240 Like, if they're leaving the country, why aren't you stopping them?
00:07:40.380 And there are so many questions and so many inconsistencies with the things that she's saying.
00:07:45.160 And even today, right?
00:07:46.080 Even the statement that she just released today.
00:07:48.720 Oh, you know, consulting with the FBI.
00:07:51.840 My office and the FBI have determined that we'd be happy to interview Ghislaine Maxwell,
00:07:56.180 who's currently in prison in Florida, serving a 20-year sentence to see if she has any information about anybody who's committed crimes against children.
00:08:03.520 Well, why is this only being done now?
00:08:05.520 How many years has Ghislaine Maxwell been in prison for?
00:08:07.980 Are you saying that the DOJ and the FBI have never taken it upon themselves to interview her?
00:08:13.280 Or were you, how could you say in the memo that the case was closed when you had already determined that you were closing the case before interviewing Ghislaine?
00:08:21.620 So now everybody's kind of wondering, wait a second, why did this memo say you were closing the case,
00:08:26.820 but now you're backtracking and saying that you're going to go interview her?
00:08:29.560 It's a reverse order, right?
00:08:30.960 So it's a mess.
00:08:32.180 It's a mess.
00:08:32.640 It is.
00:08:33.320 And the longer she keeps doing that and has a job, it falls on the president.
00:08:41.400 Look, I think it's unfortunate.
00:08:44.380 Yes, President Trump is the person who appointed her and President Trump is the person who could remove her.
00:08:48.840 But I also think it's a distraction.
00:08:50.780 While I want to see the Epstein files released, and I do think it's of significance,
00:08:54.380 and it's something that people obviously care a lot about, President Trump never promised that he was going to release the files.
00:09:03.160 And so to the president's credit, I will say he was asked about it kind of on the cuff by Lex Friedman on his podcast,
00:09:10.820 and he said, oh, I'll take a look at it, right?
00:09:12.700 He said, are you going to release the Epstein files if you win?
00:09:15.500 And he says, I'll take a look at it.
00:09:17.400 It was never part of Agenda 47 to release the Epstein files.
00:09:20.600 So a lot of people are attacking Trump, falsely accusing him of being a pedophile, saying he's a pedo protector.
00:09:26.200 I think that's horrible.
00:09:27.620 In the scheme of things, President Trump is doing an amazing job,
00:09:31.340 and he doesn't get nearly enough credit that he deserves for all of the victories that he's had since starting his second term.
00:09:38.500 I think a lot of people give him credit.
00:09:39.780 I think he's getting plenty of credit.
00:09:41.620 There are so many people, and again, it goes back to the woke right faction that was shit-talking Trump this last week,
00:09:48.180 saying, oh, you know, I'm done with him.
00:09:49.620 I'm not supporting him.
00:09:50.460 And people never should support him ever again.
00:09:52.500 It's like, were you ever really with Trump?
00:09:54.340 I think there's a lot of people that are looking at the fact that Trump's going to be gone in 3.5 years,
00:09:59.340 and they're trying to pivot.
00:10:00.340 They're trying to pivot to secure other financial opportunities
00:10:04.440 because their grift of leeching off of Donald Trump and sucking the life out of him
00:10:10.560 after he basically created them and gave them their careers over these last eight years is coming to an end.
00:10:15.840 I fully am on the page with that one because that's a different story.
00:10:18.180 I think he built a lot of people's careers.
00:10:21.000 He did.
00:10:21.300 No question.
00:10:21.960 Like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.
00:10:24.160 I mean, there's so many of these people, right?
00:10:25.120 I don't know if I would say Tucker.
00:10:26.180 I think Tucker had a career before him.
00:10:28.420 But I think, and I'm not even—
00:10:29.480 Well, after he got fired by Fox, he certainly created his career.
00:10:32.460 I mean, Trump could have easily nuked Tucker.
00:10:34.060 Those Dominion lawsuit records that came out with Fox News, Tucker Carlson, he said he hates Trump.
00:10:39.680 He said that Trump is a satanic force.
00:10:41.720 You could pull it up.
00:10:42.420 You could pull these records up.
00:10:43.400 Nobody wants to talk about this because it's like taboo in conservative media.
00:10:47.580 Everybody kisses his ass.
00:10:49.280 I don't think so.
00:10:49.960 I don't think that's what it is.
00:10:50.940 What I'm saying is—what I'm qualifying here, Laura, is Tucker had a job at MSNBC and CNN way before he got a job at Fox.
00:10:59.340 Yeah.
00:10:59.820 And Tucker's been relevant for a long time.
00:11:02.940 Of course, not at the levels he is now.
00:11:05.660 His podcast is doing great, top five, top four.
00:11:08.200 But that's what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that his independent career as an—not working for a major network, independent, Tucker Carlson Network.
00:11:15.300 You think it's purely on Trump?
00:11:16.520 I'm a Trump guy, and a lot of people would say, like, I'm neutral with Tucker.
00:11:21.260 I think Tucker—I think Tucker, for a guy to be his age, to have his kind of money, to be on the road traveling around the world interviewing people, most people don't want to do that, and they're not going to do this.
00:11:33.640 I'm going to give him his credit there.
00:11:35.400 Now, let me come back to the Trump side.
00:11:36.640 I just personally think that when I say it's on Trump, I'm saying Trump was very gracious after those text messages came out.
00:11:42.920 What I'm saying is that Tucker, yeah, he's created his own platform, and he deserves credit for that.
00:11:48.060 But Trump could have easily nuked him, and I don't think he would have been as popular post his firing—post the firing at Fox News had Trump actually given him what he deserved, which was a lambasting after those text messages came out.
00:11:59.620 I mean, he was very derogatory, saying, oh, you know, the election wasn't stolen.
00:12:03.140 I can't wait until we don't have to talk about Trump anymore.
00:12:06.300 His supporters are a bunch of cousin effers.
00:12:08.800 I mean, I'm not making this up.
00:12:09.800 You can go look it up and see for yourself.
00:12:11.220 Very derogatory things.
00:12:12.740 Trump never nuked him.
00:12:14.660 He could have put out one true social post and nuked his entire independent career, but he didn't do it.
00:12:19.480 Why do you think he didn't?
00:12:21.000 I don't know.
00:12:21.520 Maybe—I think that President Trump is a very nice person.
00:12:25.100 I know that he doesn't get portrayed that way in the media, but—
00:12:28.220 I don't think he wants the people to know that.
00:12:30.520 But he's too generous, and I've told him this in my private conversation with him.
00:12:33.720 I'm like, you're too nice.
00:12:35.060 You know, people think that Trump's some kind of monster, that, oh, I'm going to fire you.
00:12:38.500 I'm going to ruin your life.
00:12:39.300 I'm going to do this.
00:12:40.140 He actually gives a lot of people a lot of second chances.
00:12:43.040 And sometimes I've had conversations with him, Mr. President, this person, this person effed you so hard.
00:12:48.680 This person has done this to you.
00:12:49.960 Why do you take their phone calls?
00:12:50.920 Why do you do this?
00:12:51.540 Why do you do that?
00:12:52.560 Oh, you know, you know.
00:12:54.780 And it's just—whatever the reason is that he says, it's just mind-boggling to me in the conversations that I have with him occasionally,
00:13:02.100 because he's much more forgiving and gracious than people give him credit for.
00:13:06.120 I mean, he really doesn't need to deal with a lot of these people.
00:13:08.740 He doesn't need anything from them.
00:13:09.980 And he really could have nuked a lot of people's careers, but he has decided not to.
00:13:14.760 I don't know why.
00:13:15.420 I don't know why he hasn't.
00:13:17.000 I think you have to.
00:13:17.660 It's like self-restraint, but he is way more considerate of people's futures than people think.
00:13:24.180 They think, oh, he just wants to—
00:13:25.980 Because he's a number one above everybody.
00:13:27.820 Yeah.
00:13:28.120 You have to be.
00:13:29.320 You know, you don't have to be.
00:13:31.020 A lot of people don't have to be.
00:13:32.360 He has to be.
00:13:33.260 And I think I actually applaud him for the approach he's taking, because the average person couldn't do what he's doing.
00:13:40.320 I actually applaud him for what he's doing, and that's why he's showing more signs of being president of America instead of just a president of a party, instead of a president.
00:13:50.820 I think he is more and more getting closer to, you know, becoming the—where history books are going to say,
00:13:59.220 this guy went from 2016 to the way he went about it the first four years, and now the way he's doing it in 2024.
00:14:03.900 Very different approach.
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